🚨USAID & CIA behind 2019 Trump Impeachment🚨

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

So the US is buying sorghum and giving it to other countries or something?  First question wtf is sorghum?

lol, eff if I know. All I know is that it appears to be a significant proportion of Kansas farming. 

[Strike 5,185]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

lol, eff if I know. All I know is that it appears to be a significant proportion of Kansas farming. 

Your own link suggests nothing was set in stone:

 

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Part of his job is purchasing and selling grain, like the sorghum taking up much of the space in the co-op's grain elevators. Sometimes, that has meant selling to Food for Peace when there are calls for contracts.

"We were hoping there'd be another one with as much milo as we have," Barnes said.

 

Sounds like they farmed too much and were HOPING to sell it via USAID IF there was a need for it.  Doesn't sound like there was a deal in place in advance. 

This is weak sauce even for you.

[jerryskids 6,557]

28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

“Discuss” being the operative word? How about we discuss it, and decide whether this should be done, and if not, how to wean off of it instead of abruptly shutting things down and hurting a lot of industry and people? 
 

Again I am not opposed at all to many of things that Trump and Musk are doing here. I’m opposed to the way they’re doing them. I think it’s being done too quickly, without thought or planning, and the results will be chaotic and create much unnecessary pain IMO. 

Again, your model is the previous method:  a committee to form a committee to form subcommittees to spend millions of dollars and months of time to generate a report that would never amount to any actual actions.  I'm interested to see how this approach works on a titanic organization like the government.  Unfortunately, some good causes suffer along the way, hopefully temporarily.  As I heard one person say, if you spend $40B, you are likely to accidentally stumble into providing some good, no matter how big of a boondoggle it is.  

[HellToupee 1,583]

Bad hombres rapists & murderers meh but excess sorghum and the guy lights his hair on fire

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

11 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Bad hombres rapists & murderers meh but excess sorghum and the guy lights his hair on fire

Excellent point. 

[shadrap 220]

49 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

lol, eff if I know. All I know is that it appears to be a significant proportion of Kansas farming. 

grasping at straws again for anything and everything. Trump trying to save taxpayer money being wasted by the BILLIONS & you cherry picking here and there to make a sympathetic plea for sorghum farmers, who it appears is about as popular as grubs with no market for it.

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

2 hours ago, HotRod said:

 

You gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette 

Vladimir Lenin was the first person to use this phrase in regards to excessive political actions. You have interesting company. 

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Your own link suggests nothing was set in stone:

 

Sounds like they farmed too much and were HOPING to sell it via USAID IF there was a need for it.  Doesn't sound like there was a deal in place in advance. 

This is weak sauce even for you.

I don’t think it is but we’ll see. 

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

33 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Again, your model is the previous method:  a committee to form a committee to form subcommittees to spend millions of dollars and months of time to generate a report that would never amount to any actual actions.  I'm interested to see how this approach works on a titanic organization like the government.  Unfortunately, some good causes suffer along the way, hopefully temporarily.  As I heard one person say, if you spend $40B, you are likely to accidentally stumble into providing some good, no matter how big of a boondoggle it is.  

I don’t agree. 

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

12 minutes ago, shadrap said:

grasping at straws again for anything and everything. Trump trying to save taxpayer money being wasted by the BILLIONS & you cherry picking here and there to make a sympathetic plea for sorghum farmers, who it appears is about as popular as grubs with no market for it.

I don’t think any of these moves are going to save anyone money. I think the amount of people put out of work will actually cost us more money. 

[HotRod 69]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Vladimir Lenin was the first person to use this phrase in regards to excessive political actions. You have interesting company. 

Why are you so scared of autocracy?

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

Look it’s going to happen anyhow within the limits of the law. I think some of this is going to be stopped by the courts because there are contracts involved and Congress will have a say as well. 
 

But in the long run, even if it takes a few months rather than a few days, USAID is going to be gone. Democrats can’t stop it. So we will see if this turns out to be a good thing. I have strong doubts but we’re going to find out. 

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

4 minutes ago, HotRod said:

Why are you so scared of autocracy?

I don’t really know you and I sense a bit of trolling here. Think I will bow out from responding to you. 

[jerryskids 6,557]

24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t agree. 

With what part?

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

46 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

With what part?

With any of it. I don’t agree that our two choices are either a committee or a quick slash. I don’t like “either-or choices”. If Trump had said “I’m appointing Elon Musk to study these agencies, and after 3 months he’s going to recommend a series of cuts, and I am ordering him to focus on cutting wasteful spending but keeping all the good stuff, and then we are going to submit it to Congress for approval since I don’t have the power to do this myself” I would have been fine with that. Thats the way this should be done. 

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

Iowa has now started their own DOGE Task Force.

https://x.com/IAGovernor/status/1889041188109553785

[nobody 2,557]

17 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Look it’s going to happen anyhow within the limits of the law. I think some of this is going to be stopped by the courts because there are contracts involved and Congress will have a say as well. 
 

But in the long run, even if it takes a few months rather than a few days, USAID is going to be gone. Democrats can’t stop it. So we will see if this turns out to be a good thing. I have strong doubts but we’re going to find out. 

It won't be good or bad.  It'll mean nothing to the vast majority of the world.

[nobody 2,557]

16 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

With any of it. I don’t agree that our two choices are either a committee or a quick slash. I don’t like “either-or choices”. If Trump had said “I’m appointing Elon Musk to study these agencies, and after 3 months he’s going to recommend a series of cuts, and I am ordering him to focus on cutting wasteful spending but keeping all the good stuff, and then we are going to submit it to Congress for approval since I don’t have the power to do this myself” I would have been fine with that. Thats the way this should be done. 

So you want nothing to happen.  Got it.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

It will be interesting to see how many of these left wing propaganda outfits like Politico will be around a few years from now without the taxpayer unwittingly funding them. 

[Mufaletta 70]

On 2/10/2025 at 11:22 AM, Fnord said:

I did. It was hardly Reagan in '84.

The second question is what scares me about Trump, and the answer is I don't know.

Wasn't 84, but definitely a mandate

[Tebok 301]

This USAID shutdown is tragic.

Millions are going to die from starvation and disease, and outbreaks of ebola and marbug 

China will swoop in to pick up the slack and compromise our world influence.

This is not what America is about.

https://thebulletin.org/2025/02/how-the-shutdown-of-usaid-will-hurt-americans-and-empower-foreign-adversaries/

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Some officials fear that the closure of USAID could slow the response to ongoing outbreaks of Ebola in Uganda and Marburg virus in Tanzania. USAID and the CDC collaborated in 2022 on a successful effort to limit the spread of an Ebola outbreak in Uganda.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

And where will transvestites in Guatemala get their comic books from? It’s a humanitarian crisis!

[Tebok 301]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And where will transvestites in Guatemala get their comic books from? It’s a humanitarian crisis!

More trans fixation. You must want them so badly.

[jbycho 583]

35 minutes ago, Tebok said:

More trans fixation. You must want them so badly.

You must want to keep them so badly. You sure do fight for it. 

[Voltaire 5,182]

Dems have to criticize everything Trump does. It's just so compelling. That's why they're all enthusiastically strapping themselves in on the losing side of popular issues like secure borders, fighting wasteful spending, government surveillance and censorship, tranny bullsh*t, DEI, lawfare, and on and on.