nobody 2,567 Posted February 24 One thing I have about mock drafts is how biased they are. Take the falcons situation when they drafted Penix and everyone (but me) freaked out. I think a lot of that was because the pundits and mock drafters wanted Penix on the raiders. But it wasn't a mistake. QB is the most important position on the field by a mile. If you have to spend extra resources to get that part of your team right, spend the extra resources. But if you look at these mock drafts, they always want to put low ceiling guys on small market teams. It's like when someone doesn't show up for my fantasy draft and I end up having to pick their team. I give them good players. But I give them low ceiling guys. It's the same with these mock drafts. The uncool teams always end up with a guard or tightened while the teams the media are enamoured with get the QBs and high profile players. The cool teams are Dallas, raiders, giants, 49ers, Packers, bears, Lions nowadays, KC, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Rams, and eagles. Those teams will be mocked all the best players unless, of course, a team is picking first overall. I mean mocking a tightend that isn't Brock Bowers pedigree to anyone in the top 10 should be considered an insult. Like, come on. We all know that TJ Warren ain't going to make a damn bit of difference on the Colts or Jets. He's just going to be a solid player that has a good career. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted February 24 I pretty much disagree with all of this. Mock drafts are just for fun and often mostly wrong but biased toward “cool” teams? When did the Bears become cool? it’s not unrealistic that many mocks had Brock Bowers to the Raiders last year. It’s was a very “Raiders” pick. Not because they are seen as “cool”. i think the most bias you will see is if a mock is done by a teams fan site or beat writer. I have seen some of those where it’s clear they are making a player fall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,827 Posted February 24 First mock I pull up just for shlts. Pff. Travis Hunter to the Jags. This thread is trying way too hard lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted February 24 I think early season mocks are mostly dun for fun and clicks. They dont care how accurate it is. They just want you to click on their outrageous picks and picks that will get them some attention talk about it. More clicks=more ad revenue. Thats all this is about. sure I'd buy that small school guys get undervalued in a mock draft. Because nobody cares about the small school. There are no clicks to make money from it because the fan base is small. there are not a lot of reputable organizations whose mock drafts I truly believe in. and this is the reason. The mock isnt generated to be accurate. its generated to get you and me to click on it so the advertiser can make them some cash. the best mocks are likely from sites like fftoday or footballguys. why? because they also have a reputation to uphold. Throwing out a trash mock draft will hurt their bottom line in the long run so they will try to make the mock draft realistic. in the end you as a reader need to understand this is just as much for entertainment as it is for anything at this point in the year. So most of your mocks are not going to reflect the realities of the NFL draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 25 3 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: I pretty much disagree with all of this. Mock drafts are just for fun and often mostly wrong but biased toward “cool” teams? When did the Bears become cool? it’s not unrealistic that many mocks had Brock Bowers to the Raiders last year. It’s was a very “Raiders” pick. Not because they are seen as “cool”. i think the most bias you will see is if a mock is done by a teams fan site or beat writer. I have seen some of those where it’s clear they are making a player fall I almost didn't include the Bears on the cool list, but I figured the media is so vested in Caleb's success since they were all slobbering on his nutz all offseason, I included them in the cool team club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 25 3 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: First mock I pull up just for shlts. Pff. Travis Hunter to the Jags. This thread is trying way too hard lol. Summary from USA Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2025/02/24/nfl-mock-draft-2025-roundup-predictions-combine/80042299007/ Jacksonville Jaguars Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Will Johnson, Michigan The Athletic: Mason Graham, IDL, Michigan Pro Football Focus: Travis Hunter, CB/WR, Colorado The 33rd Team: Kenneth Grant, IDL, Michigan CBS Sports: Abdul Carter, EDGE, Penn State Raiders 1 pick later: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado The Athletic: Traded up to pick No. 4 for Sanders. Patriots select Will Campbell, OT, LSU Pro Football Focus: Will Johnson, CB, Michigan The 33rd Team: Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State CBS Sports: Shedeur Sanders Come on bruh... 1 has them taking a flashy player. One has the best player in the draft falling to them. And then 3 boring picks Now look at the Raiders. 1 boring pick. And then 4 flashy picks... one of which has them trading up to make it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 25 New York Jets Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Arizona The Athletic: Tetairoa McMillan Pro Football Focus: Trade back to pick No. 9 Saints select Mason Graham, IDL, Michigan The 33rd Team: Mason Graham CBS Sports: Traded up to pick No. 1 for Cam Ward, QB, Miami Titans select Tetairoa McMillan Jets get a low upside JAG WR or an interior lineman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 25 Dallas a few picks later Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State The Athletic: Ashton Jeanty Pro Football Focus: Armand Membou, OL, Missouri The 33rd Team: Walter Nolen, IDL, Mississippi CBS Sports: Ashton Jeanty Let's give them the most exciting runningback in the draft! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 25 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State The Athletic: Emeka Egbuka Pro Football Focus: Emeka Egbuka The 33rd Team: Matthew Golden, WR, Texas CBS Sports: Will Johnson, CB, Michigan Steelers get the most underrated receiver in the draft or have the best DB fall to them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, nobody said: Let's give them the most exciting runningback in the draft! That would be a great pick for them. The clock is ticking on Trevor Lawrence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, League Champion said: That would be a great pick for them. The clock is ticking on Trevor Lawrence. Speaking of Trevor. I have a new hot take that no one will like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted February 25 Just now, nobody said: Speaking of Trevor. I have a new hot take that no one will like. I like hot takes, whatcha got? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted February 25 10 minutes ago, nobody said: Summary from USA Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2025/02/24/nfl-mock-draft-2025-roundup-predictions-combine/80042299007/ Jacksonville Jaguars Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Will Johnson, Michigan The Athletic: Mason Graham, IDL, Michigan Pro Football Focus: Travis Hunter, CB/WR, Colorado The 33rd Team: Kenneth Grant, IDL, Michigan CBS Sports: Abdul Carter, EDGE, Penn State Raiders 1 pick later: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado The Athletic: Traded up to pick No. 4 for Sanders. Patriots select Will Campbell, OT, LSU Pro Football Focus: Will Johnson, CB, Michigan The 33rd Team: Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State CBS Sports: Shedeur Sanders Come on bruh... 1 has them taking a flashy player. One has the best player in the draft falling to them. And then 3 boring picks Now look at the Raiders. 1 boring pick. And then 4 flashy picks... one of which has them trading up to make it. Are you calling Mason Graham boring? I think he’s going to be a stud. Flashy picks to the Raiders doesn’t prove whatever point you’re trying to make. Raiders have a long history of going with the fastest or most intriguing athlete so this is less about being cool and more that the Al Davis MO has stuck. Hunter Jeanty and Sanders feel like classic Raider picks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted February 25 10 minutes ago, nobody said: Dallas a few picks later Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State The Athletic: Ashton Jeanty Pro Football Focus: Armand Membou, OL, Missouri The 33rd Team: Walter Nolen, IDL, Mississippi CBS Sports: Ashton Jeanty Let's give them the most exciting runningback in the draft! RBs shouldn’t normally go very high so this just seems like people projecting a Jerry pick 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted February 25 10 minutes ago, nobody said: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State The Athletic: Emeka Egbuka Pro Football Focus: Emeka Egbuka The 33rd Team: Matthew Golden, WR, Texas CBS Sports: Will Johnson, CB, Michigan Steelers get the most underrated receiver in the draft or have the best DB fall to them... I love Emeka and he is not underrated. I’ve rarely seen him fall out of round 1 mocks anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 25 He's the best receiver in the draft. He's not going number 1. He's underrated... quite literally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I love Emeka Agree, he's going to go higher than mocked. He's going to be a PPR machine for Fantasy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 25 9 minutes ago, League Champion said: I like hot takes, whatcha got? The trevor lawrence and how he holds the ball for forever and a day thing reminded me of Sheduer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted February 25 Just now, nobody said: The trevor lawrence and how he holds the ball for forever and a day thing reminded me of Sheduer Sanders will be a bust. He's not mobile or good outside of the pocket which is going to hurt him, especially if going into a bad situation. I think he's going to slide. Jaxson Dart is the best QB in this draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,827 Posted February 25 9 hours ago, nobody said: Summary from USA Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2025/02/24/nfl-mock-draft-2025-roundup-predictions-combine/80042299007/ Jacksonville Jaguars Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Will Johnson, Michigan The Athletic: Mason Graham, IDL, Michigan Pro Football Focus: Travis Hunter, CB/WR, Colorado The 33rd Team: Kenneth Grant, IDL, Michigan CBS Sports: Abdul Carter, EDGE, Penn State Raiders 1 pick later: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado The Athletic: Traded up to pick No. 4 for Sanders. Patriots select Will Campbell, OT, LSU Pro Football Focus: Will Johnson, CB, Michigan The 33rd Team: Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State CBS Sports: Shedeur Sanders Come on bruh... 1 has them taking a flashy player. One has the best player in the draft falling to them. And then 3 boring picks Now look at the Raiders. 1 boring pick. And then 4 flashy picks... one of which has them trading up to make it. You read waaay too into this. Trying waaaay too hard. One has a QB. The other does not. Lmao. Trying waaaay too hard. Put the mocks down "scout". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,827 Posted February 25 9 hours ago, nobody said: New York Jets Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Arizona The Athletic: Tetairoa McMillan Pro Football Focus: Trade back to pick No. 9 Saints select Mason Graham, IDL, Michigan The 33rd Team: Mason Graham CBS Sports: Traded up to pick No. 1 for Cam Ward, QB, Miami Titans select Tetairoa McMillan Jets get a low upside JAG WR or an interior lineman. Tet is thought of as the top WR. Whether he is or not how is that not a flashy pick? Lol You have to be drunk. What exactly is your point here? What on earth am I reading? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,827 Posted February 25 9 hours ago, nobody said: He's the best receiver in the draft. He's not going number 1. He's underrated... quite literally. Yeah hes not going number 1. Hence why he can be mocked to the Steelers. Is this real life? What are you babbling about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,827 Posted February 25 PFF Packers Zabel the T who may br interior from ND St. Flashy! Dallas. Armen Membu T Mizzu. Flashy! Lol. This is the goofiest thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 25 5 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: You read waaay too into this. Trying waaaay too hard. One has a QB. The other does not. Lmao. Trying waaaay too hard. Put the mocks down "scout". You keep saying the trying hard thing. Trying hard to do what? I noticed something. I talk about it. I'm trying hard to talk about football? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 25 5 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: Tet is thought of as the top WR. Whether he is or not how is that not a flashy pick? Lol You have to be drunk. What exactly is your point here? What on earth am I reading? The point is in the title. If you can't even understand that, why do you keep replying? Look I get it. I made some calls. You don't like that I bring it up. You are salt of the earth humble, so now you're going to argue with everything I say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted February 25 15 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: RBs shouldn’t normally go very high so this just seems like people projecting a Jerry pick quite possibly. Though honestly, the smarter move for the cowboys is to get a plug and play O lineman (if they can do it) the scouting report on Dak has always been hes far less effective if you can get pressure on him. and his best years by far was when the Dallas Cowboys had a top 5 O line. That said, it wouldnt totally surprise me if they took a RB but usually Jerry likes to have a good line too so either option could be THE option for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,827 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, nobody said: You keep saying the trying hard thing. Trying hard to do what? I noticed something. I talk about it. I'm trying hard to talk about football? Trying to hard to make some correlation that mocks mock "cool" players to "cool" teams. Whatever that means. You mention how some mocks have the "cool" raiders taking Sanders in comparison to thr Jags. Well 1 has a highly paid QB on thr team. The other does not. Obviously a "cool" QB isnt going to be mocked to thr Jags by any outlet. The Jags just spent a 1st on a WR. So 2 "cool" positions are already off the board to be mocked there. Do you ever look at what a team needs? Lol Your examples are extremely forced. PFF I looked at 1 mock. Jags get Hunter. Dallas and GB get a mizzu T and a ND St T that will play inside. Lol. Its some conspiracy that Dallas is getting mocked Jeanty? You mean to Jerrah who has an affinity for RBs while Dowdle is a FA? Wow what are the chances! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,157 Posted February 25 two chicks slap fighting. Shame. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 608 Posted February 25 Of course mock drafts are biased. They are opinion pieces, which are inherently biased… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted February 25 5 hours ago, jrokh said: Of course mock drafts are biased. They are opinion pieces, which are inherently biased… well, that kind of puts it all in perspective doesnt it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,157 Posted February 25 57 minutes ago, Ray_T said: well, that kind of puts it all in perspective doesnt it? Yeah, because it’s the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,567 Posted February 27 On 2/25/2025 at 8:54 AM, listen2me 23 said: Trying to hard to make some correlation that mocks mock "cool" players to "cool" teams. Whatever that means. If you don't even know what it means why do you keep commenting. Of course, I know you know what it means. I've read your post here for years. I know you're smart. I'm sure I just annoyed you, so you decided to pick a fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,827 Posted February 27 15 minutes ago, nobody said: If you don't even know what it means why do you keep commenting. Of course, I know you know what it means. I've read your post here for years. I know you're smart. I'm sure I just annoyed you, so you decided to pick a fight. I apologize for getting all up at you. I just thought it was a weird thread. If there are like 4 "cool" players in the first round then its not a thing. I like football. Im not a fantasy nerd, I play, but Im not absorbed in it anymore as Ive gotten older. To me the number 1 DT and 2nd best defender in the class isnt a boring pick. But again I shouldnt have got all up posting like I did. I just find biased mocks a bizarre theory when they change each week. Some teams need a WR or RB or QB more than others. If Pitt happens to need a WR and Egbuka is mocked there it isnt some bias. This far in the process most agree thats the range hes going. The mocks right now wont have two thirds of the right players that go in the first. Me and you could post our mocks right now and a third of players we have in first wont go in the first. Happens every year. In 1 month the mocks of today wont look anything like what they post in April. Besides maybe roughly the top of the draft for the most part. I am a Packers fan. All I ever see them being mocked each year is OL or DL. Because thats their style. Maybe some may have the 4th cb going to them. Hardly a batch of cool players. And I didnt understand how you categorize Tet as not "cool" because you think hes a bust. If the consensus #1 WR isnt a "cool" pick, what is? Future bust or not. By the way Tet has been downgraded by most for a bit now. Hes far from some lock top 10 pick as many see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,827 Posted February 27 And Idk how many popular teams there are. I understand you are talking wide fanbases. Pitt dallas 9ers packers maybe chiefs and eagles these days? All I ever see the chiefs taking is OL or DL. Same with the 9ers. One mock I recently looked at had the Toledo DT going to the Eagles or Chiefs I forget. Eagles do tend to draft harolded guys that are slotted high and fall to them. Jalen Carter and Dejean come to mind. Its what they do. Nolan Smith maybe as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 721 Posted March 7 Our first bias mock draft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted April 5 On 2/24/2025 at 5:05 PM, Ray_T said: I think early season mocks are mostly dun for fun and clicks. They dont care how accurate it is. They just want you to click on their outrageous picks and picks that will get them some attention talk about it. More clicks=more ad revenue. Thats all this is about. sure I'd buy that small school guys get undervalued in a mock draft. Because nobody cares about the small school. There are no clicks to make money from it because the fan base is small. there are not a lot of reputable organizations whose mock drafts I truly believe in. and this is the reason. The mock isnt generated to be accurate. its generated to get you and me to click on it so the advertiser can make them some cash. the best mocks are likely from sites like fftoday or footballguys. why? because they also have a reputation to uphold. Throwing out a trash mock draft will hurt their bottom line in the long run so they will try to make the mock draft realistic. in the end you as a reader need to understand this is just as much for entertainment as it is for anything at this point in the year. So most of your mocks are not going to reflect the realities of the NFL draft. Mock drafts definitely are fun. Until about a couple weeks before the actual draft because I just get antsy for the actual draft. One thing I've many mock draft analysts say is that they do them with different players many of the teams simply to discuss various options for those teams. To analyze and talk about different players over talking about the same 32 guys over and over again. First and foremost, mock drafting is entertainment. Then it gets down to learning about and looking into all the players that are realistic possibilities for the teams. Lastly, someone might do a final mock draft to try and guess what each team will actually do in the real draft to see how close they get to being accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,157 Posted April 11 I’ve seen three different reports that the Redskins will be looking at a rb. Wise decision. Imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted April 11 when is the next biased mock draft coming out at fftoday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 721 Posted April 14 On 4/11/2025 at 4:40 PM, Ray_T said: when is the next biased mock draft coming out at fftoday? Here ya go - NFL Mock Draft Version 3.0. We'll do one more on 4/22. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted April 14 30 minutes ago, Mike FF Today said: Here ya go - NFL Mock Draft Version 3.0. We'll do one more on 4/22. wow awesome. great customer service. My request on the friday. response before monday morning! thanks! almost makes me feel like I have some pull and/or influence here lol (though in reality, you probably were putting it out today anyway) cheers man and thanks! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
