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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Trump is such a sucker here. Being played completely by Putin. Sad. 

Tim is such a sucker here. Being played completely by the liberal media. Sad. 

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4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You have no idea what was said in those meetings you stupid asss. So keep spreading your hate, lies and bullshizz. 

I base my analysis on what the White House is telling me. Are they lying? 

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Alexander S. Vindman 


Terrible deal. I don’t understand how Trump, who has four years under his belt with Putin, constantly gets played. Trump moves to normalize relations with Russia for trinkets. This ceasefire, if it starts and Russia doesn’t violate it, disproportionately helps Russia, whose energy infrastructure is getting pounded by Ukraine. For 35 years, six Republican and Democrat administrations, has succumbed to manipulation. Russia has been extremely successfully dangling small wins and threatening terrible consequences to get the U.S. to compromise and capitulate. But no one has been played as hard as Trump. He consistently claims grand successes, for at best, token achievements. A phone call isn’t an achievement. A watered down ceasefire in exchange for dividing our alliance is a significant cost. I strongly recommend you read my latest New York Times bestselling book, The Folly of Realism: How The West Deceived Itself About Russia and Betrayed Ukraine. You will see the pattern of mistakes being amplified by Trump and get a cheat sheet on how to actually put America First.

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33 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I base my analysis on what the White House is telling me. Are they lying? 

I'm sorry, did I miss something?? Did they come to a deal? 

Stop spreading your lies Timmay! 

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The best part was Donald was sitting on hold for an hour while Putin and his pals were mocking him. :lol:

And then Putin got Donald to accept a cease fire on Infrastructure but what Trump didn't know is that Ukraine is winning that battle anyway :lol:

What a dumb weak tool Trump is.

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2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Ukraine is winning that battle anyway :lol:

They are? Then why does Zelensky want a ceasefire. 

YOU'RE AN IDIOT 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Trump is such a sucker here. Being played completely by Putin. Sad. 

Beats getting played by Zelensky. 

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12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Beats getting played by Zelensky. 

No. It doesn’t. Zelensky is not a mass murderer or dictator. WTF are you talking about??

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No. It doesn’t. Zelensky is not a mass murderer or dictator. WTF are you talking about??

He has admitted he doesn’t know where billions are. The billions Biden gifted him. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Zelensky is not a mass murderer or dictator

He's not?? He anointed himself President, no election. He's responsible for being one of the World leaders in Child Sex Trafficking and slave labor. 

HE'S A GREAT MAN TIMMAY! 🎉 

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He has admitted he doesn’t know where billions are. The billions Biden gifted him. 

No he didn't :lol:

You're so dumb and gullible.

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4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

No. It doesn’t. Zelensky is not a mass murderer or dictator. WTF are you talking about??

Tim is worried about Trump getting played by putin

but cheers that Europe is funding Russia in this war

 

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Trump failed to get Putin to accept a 30-day ceasefire.

So much for Day 1. So much for peace. So much for Trump.

And now Israel is back at it with Gaza.

What a LOSER.

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28 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Let's just give Russia Ukraine and get it over with. Zelensky started this 

Zelensky wasn’t even in office when the war started. He was on TV, like Trump.

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For days now, the State Department has remained mum about the news that it terminated a contract with a humanitarian group that was tracking the fate of Ukrainian children abducted by Russia after the Russian invasion. The revelation—which we first reported last week—suggests that the United States may now be in the position of helping Russia bury a potential war crime, complicating negotiations to end the Russia-Ukraine war. Yet the State Department won’t explain why this contract was terminated, or even how it happened at all.


But now this developing scandal has gotten worse. The underlying data collected in the course of tracking these children may have been deleted in connection with this contract’s termination, over a dozen members of Congress have now charged in a letter they just sent to Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

https://newrepublic.com/article/192924/trump-musk-scandal-ukrainian-kids-stolen-russia

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Today 3/19/2025 

Trump asked Zelensky "about the children who had gone missing from Ukraine during the war, including the ones who had been abducted".

She added that the US president vowed to "work closely" with both the Russian and Ukrainian sides to ensure those children are returned him.

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1 hour ago, Gepetto said:

Today 3/19/2025 

Trump asked Zelensky "about the children who had gone missing from Ukraine during the war, including the ones who had been abducted".

She added that the US president vowed to "work closely" with both the Russian and Ukrainian sides to ensure those children are returned him.

What is this partial quote from?

Backing out of the group working on this is a weird way to go about this: 

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3 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

It’s from the Press Secretary lady? That tracks. She didn’t answer the question regarding us backing out of the group who was tracking these missing kids. Doing this is counter to “working closely” on this issue, no?

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4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

It’s from the Press Secretary lady? That tracks. She didn’t answer the question regarding us backing out of the group who was tracking these missing kids. Doing this is counter to “working closely” on this issue, no?

Yes. 

Correct. 

I don't know. She didn't have any more information regarding the Yale tracking of Ukraine kids that seems to have been stopped.

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3 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Yes. 

Correct. 

I don't know. She didn't have any more information regarding the Yale tracking of Ukraine kids that seems to have been stopped.

It’s an odd thing to back out of with no explanation. This story has been making the rounds for a few days now. 

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4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

It’s an odd thing to back out of with no explanation. This story has been making the rounds for a few days now. 

It's something that Russia wants.  We've been quietly doing many things that Putin wants.

I remember when Republicans used to pretend to care about kids.

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7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

remember when Republicans used to pretend to care about kids.

 

 

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Zelensky: You can't trust Putin, he never keeps his promise.

Trump: Wrong, he has never broken a promise for me.

Zelensky: bruh

Trump: Putin and I agreed on a ceasefire on energy targets

Putin: Bomb the energy target

Zelensky: Told you so

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1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Zelensky: You can't trust Putin, he never keeps his promise.

Trump: Wrong, he has never broken a promise for me.

Zelensky: bruh

Trump: Putin and I agreed on a ceasefire on energy targets

Putin: Bomb the energy target

Zelensky: Told you so

Ukraine attacked Russian energy after the Putin-Trump deal, but before Zelensky spoke with Trump.

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So tonight Trump's ally Putin is attacking the old city of Odesa, residential neighborhoods and civil infrastructure is being targeted. The city is on fire.

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23 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

So tonight Trump's ally Putin is attacking the old city of Odesa, residential neighborhoods and civil infrastructure is being targeted. The city is on fire.

And the MAGA folks here cheer this on, right?

Or do some want to criticize and condemn Putin for this for a change?

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9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Trump got played like a bish

Has he ended the war like he said he would on Day 1 two months ago? So much for big, bad Trumpo pushing Putin around.

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4 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Has he ended the war like he said he would on Day 1 two months ago? So much for big, bad Trumpo pushing Putin around.

He said recently he was just being sarcastic :lol:

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14 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Trump got played like a bish

 

3 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Has he ended the war like he said he would on Day 1 two months ago? So much for big, bad Trumpo pushing Putin around.

The TDS is still rolling strong I see. Can't you peewees even try to get a new schtick?

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On 3/20/2025 at 5:50 PM, seafoam1 said:

 

The TDS is still rolling strong I see. Can't you peewees even try to get a new schtick?

Federally-Funded hospitals continue sex changes for minors despite trump orders.  Indeed 

Habakkuk 2:9.  Woe to Him that covet an evil covetousness to His house, that He may set His nest on high, that He may be delivered from the power of evil.   Indeed Amen Thanks 

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Give up the land Dummy, before you lose everything. 

U.S. intelligence agencies sounded the alarm on Ukraine’s dwindling battlefield prospects against Russia in an annual report released Tuesday.

The 2025 Annual Threat Assessment of the U.S. Intelligence Community — released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in conjunction with top officials’ testimony at a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing — warns that Moscow has “seized the upper hand” in the war over the past year and “is on a path to accrue greater leverage” to force favorable terms in its negotiations with Ukraine and the West.

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2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Give up the land Dummy, before you lose everything. 

U.S. intelligence agencies sounded the alarm on Ukraine’s dwindling battlefield prospects against Russia in an annual report released Tuesday.

The 2025 Annual Threat Assessment of the U.S. Intelligence Community — released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in conjunction with top officials’ testimony at a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing — warns that Moscow has “seized the upper hand” in the war over the past year and “is on a path to accrue greater leverage” to force favorable terms in its negotiations with Ukraine and the West.

Just think of how much of our money Biden wasted on supporting that war and keeping all the killing going on for so long. 

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/30/donald-trump-angry-vladimir-putin-ukraine-nbc

Donald Trump has said he is “pissed off” with Vladimir Putin over his approach to a ceasefire in Ukraine and threatened to levy tariffs on Moscow’s oil exports if the Russian leader does not agree to a truce within a month.

The US president indicated he would levy a 25% or 50% tariff that would affect countries buying Russian oil in a telephone interview with NBC News, during which he also threatened to bomb Iran and did not rule out using force in Greenland.

“If Russia and I are unable to make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia’s fault, which it might not be, but if I think it was Russia’s fault, I am going to put secondary tariffs on oil, on all oil coming out of Russia,” Trump said.

“That would be that if you buy oil from Russia, you can’t do business in the United States. There will be a 25% tariff on all … on all oil, a 25 to 50-point tariff on all oil.”

The abrupt change of direction came after Putin had tried to attack the legitimacy of Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Friday, Trump said. Appearing on Russian television, Putin had suggested Ukraine could be placed under a temporary UN-led government to organise fresh elections before negotiating a peace deal.

Trump has previously called the Ukrainian president a dictator, but on Sunday he said: “I was very angry, pissed off” when Putin “started getting into Zelenskyy’s credibility, because that’s not going in the right location, you understand?”

He said “new leadership means you’re not gonna have a deal for a long time, right” and that he wanted to exert pressure on the Kremlin, which has thrown up a string of questions about a peace settlement and only agreed to limited maritime and energy ceasefires so far.

Trump repeated that “if a deal isn’t made, and if I think it was Russia’s fault, I’m going to put secondary sanctions on Russia”, but then indicated he would quickly back down if there was progress on a ceasefire.

“The anger dissipates quickly” if Putin “does the right thing”, Trump said, adding that he expected to talk to his Russian counterpart this week.

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