AOC Perhaps Facing Legal Action?

[HellToupee 1,586]

4 hours ago, jbycho said:

Every liberal on this site regurgitates this same sorry line. Every normal person says "I don't like Russia and I don't like Ukraine. Let them deal with their own problems. I don't want to fund foreign wars."

Sometimes both sides are bad in different ways

[patweisers44 815]

30 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Link to her giving the information exclusively to illegals?

Does it need to be exclusively? 

[Fnord 2,051]

Just now, RLLD said:

had Republicans....done any one piece of that to Biden YOU.....and your mates would have been justifiably outraged, as would I..... but YOU....and the rest of your people only see it one way....because of politics. 

Negative. Stop telling me what I think. Those presuming to do so are invariably wrong.

IMO the Trump prosecutions were completely valid, with the possible exception of the Stormy Daniels/ campaign stuff being politically motivated. Which, ironically, is the only one that he was tried and found guilty for. I have never wavered from my opinion that if the evidence is sufficient, I have zero issues with indicting Joe Biden or any other politician regardless of party affiliation.

Let's just leave it at agreeing to disagree.

[jbycho 591]

2 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Sometimes both sides are bad in different ways

Not this time. 

[Fnord 2,051]

1 minute ago, patweisers44 said:

Does it need to be exclusively? 

No, it doesn't need to be anything. She informed people, including illegals, of their lawful and constitutional rights. She was not helping them commit crimes, aiding and abetting, or anything else. She was practicing her 1A rights, which last I checked, was a pretty big deal for conservatives (and myself personally). That is the prism I look at this through. If you want to treat that as a crime, we are capital F fuct as a nation.

[jbycho 591]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

No, it doesn't need to be anything. She informed people, including illegals, of their lawful and constitutional rights. She was not helping them commit crimes, aiding and abetting, or anything else. She was practicing her 1A rights, which last I checked, was a pretty big deal for conservatives (and myself personally). That is the prism I look at this through. If you want to treat that as a crime, we are capital F fuct as a nation.

Illegals don't have constitutional rights when they are here illegally. She tipped off investigations to illegals. Put her in public and punish that bltch.

[RLLD 4,143]

6 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Negative. Stop telling me what I think. Those presuming to do so are invariably wrong.

IMO the Trump prosecutions were completely valid, with the possible exception of the Stormy Daniels/ campaign stuff being politically motivated. Which, ironically, is the only one that he was tried and found guilty for. I have never wavered from my opinion that if the evidence is sufficient, I have zero issues with indicting Joe Biden or any other politician regardless of party affiliation.

Let's just leave it at agreeing to disagree.

I have watched your writings. I base my assessment on what you have written.

The Trump prosecutions were political lawfare, and nothing more.  The Democrats may have gotten away with it had they not gone so overboard with it. 

Now, I hope that Bondi will not replicate those behaviors, and will not merely take her time, but also apply reason......and if that reason means she does not pursue an elected official, I prefer that over legal abuses....as the Democrat operatives used....

[patweisers44 815]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

No, it doesn't need to be anything. She informed people, including illegals, of their lawful and constitutional rights. She was not helping them commit crimes, aiding and abetting, or anything else. She was practicing her 1A rights, which last I checked, was a pretty big deal for conservatives (and myself personally). That is the prism I look at this through. If you want to treat that as a crime, we are capital F fuct as a nation.

My point was, even if its just one illegal thats all that matters to those that believe she is aiding/abetting, etc.  There are cases where 1A rights dont apply (yelling "fire" in a movie theater...that old one) and depending on your interpretation vs mine, this could be one.

[jbycho 591]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I have watched your writings. I base my assessment on what you have written.

The Trump prosecutions were political lawfare, and nothing more.  The Democrats may have gotten away with it had they not gone so overboard with it. 

Now, I hope that Bondi will not replicate those behaviors, and will not merely take her time, but also apply reason......and if that reason means she does not pursue an elected official, I prefer that over legal abuses....as the Democrat operatives used....

Ask him about Biden having confidential files in his unsecured garage and he'll scream TRUMP!!!! even louder. That's how Democrats roll. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

Ask him about Biden having confidential files in his unsecured garage and he'll scream TRUMP!!!! even louder. That's how Democrats roll. 

 

Any reasonable person could easily see the disparities in treatment, if you remove the political context.  I think when you have decided you hate someone, no matter what they do or really are you can only ever see them in a negative way.

[jbycho 591]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

 

Any reasonable person could easily see the disparities in treatment, if you remove the political context.  I think when you have decided you hate someone, no matter what they do or really are you can only ever see them in a negative way.

"reasonable". 

[Herbivore 1,115]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 

Any reasonable person could easily see the disparities in treatment, if you remove the political context.  I think when you have decided you hate someone, no matter what they do or really are you can only ever see them in a negative way.

what were the disparities?

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, Herbivore said:

what were the disparities?

I think the poster above showed us a decent one.  Trump had the ability to take files with him as President, whether we like it or agree with it, but Biden never did...and yet he also had them.  Trump stood by his right to have the files as he should have, and the FBI decided to raid him....because they wanted to smear him.....Biden at least realized he could  not have those files.

Pretending the two situations are the same, or that Trump is somehow worse, is just another thing that makes Trump more popular, because reasonable people look at the situation and can tell there was unreasonable acts against Trump.

Now, I get that our liberal brethren really want this thing, want it to work, want people to but into Trump being the "bad man" and what not......but I will tell you, the more you try it, the less we will buy into it.

It didnt work......my suggestion....try something new....

[SaintsInDome2006 380]

6 hours ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/WintersPolitics/status/1896715005212737645 (copy of AOC letter to Bondi at link)

WOW!!!! .

 

@AOC wrote to Attorney general Pam Bondi asking her if she plans on weaponizing the department of Justice by opening inquiry's on members of congress, including herself.

 

Sussman & Danchenko are two examples of the Maga theory of prosecution. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

5 hours ago, Fnord said:

You're guilty of being a Russian sympathizer.

Your Dad is a Tranny and your Mom works at the Gloryhole with MDC. 

[Fnord 2,051]

24 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think the poster above showed us a decent one.  Trump had the ability to take files with him as President, whether we like it or agree with it, but Biden never did...and yet he also had them.  Trump stood by his right to have the files as he should have, and the FBI decided to raid him....because they wanted to smear him.....Biden at least realized he could  not have those files.

Pretending the two situations are the same, or that Trump is somehow worse, is just another thing that makes Trump more popular, because reasonable people look at the situation and can tell there was unreasonable acts against Trump.

Now, I get that our liberal brethren really want this thing, want it to work, want people to but into Trump being the "bad man" and what not......but I will tell you, the more you try it, the less we will buy into it.

It didnt work......my suggestion....try something new....

This seems disingenuous, but obviously your position is not going to move.

Trump does not have that ability with classified information, nor does any other president. You are aware of the disparities like Biden immediately returning those boxes upon request, whereas Trump attempted to lie about them and keep them, then lied again saying he had returned all of them but didn't, along with multiple lies about declassifying them after the fact, lying to his lawyers about possession, etc. These situations were significantly different, but you do not want that to be the case, as it ruins your partisan argument.

[Fnord 2,051]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

Your Dad is a Tranny and your Mom works at the Gloryhole with MDC. 

Those statements are provably false. I notice you didn't contradict mine. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

Just now, Fnord said:

Those statements are provably false. I notice you didn't contradict mine. 

Would that make you a Ukrainian sympathizer? If so you support Child Trafficking, child prostitution and slave labor. 

Yes, you do support Ukraine, say it. 

 

[jbycho 591]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Your Dad is a Tranny and your Mom works at the Gloryhole with MDC. 

They are incapable of learning that the normals hate both of those countries equally. 

[jbycho 591]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

Would that make you a Ukrainian sympathizer? If so you support Child Trafficking, child prostitution and slave labor. 

Yes, you do support Ukraine, say it. 

 

Yep. He is human waste. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

They are incapable of learning that the normals hate both of those countries equally. 

They like to groom children in their spare time. It's in the Liberal handbook 

[jbycho 591]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

They like to groom children in their spare time. It's in the Liberal handbook 

You must like the grooming!! (In my best Nazi accent)

[SaintsInDome2006 380]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

They like to groom children in their spare time. It's in the Liberal handbook 

The Trump administration just intervened in the sex trafficking Tate Brothers prosecution. They’re free now.

[Fnord 2,051]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Would that make you a Ukrainian sympathizer? If so you support Child Trafficking, child prostitution and slave labor. 

Yes, you do support Ukraine, say it. 

 

What you invariably fail (or pretend to fail) to understand is that these things are not mutually exclusive.

I can support the people of Ukraine despite knowing that some of them are bad hombres bad slavs. I can see that Zelensky is a president trying to do right by his constituents, who are dying at the hands of an autocratic regime that invaded them in violation of a treaty. I can support all of that without supporting child trafficking, prostitution, or labor. All of those things occur in the US as well. Are you saying you don't support the US, traitor?

[jbycho 591]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

The Trump administration just intervened in the sex trafficking Tate Brothers prosecution. They’re free now.

Ok. Go hide now..

[Fnord 2,051]

Just now, jbycho said:

Ok. Go hide now..

You should be hiding. You're a blowhard simp seafoam alias. SiD brings intelligence and knowledge you cannot possibly cope with. Sorry I made the mistake of looking at your posts.

[jbycho 591]

Just now, Fnord said:

What you invariably fail (or pretend to fail) to understand is that these things are not mutually exclusive.

I can support the people of Ukraine despite knowing that some of them are bad hombres bad slavs. I can see that Zelensky is a president trying to do right by his constituents, who are dying at the hands of an autocratic regime that invaded them in violation of a treaty. I can support all of that without supporting child trafficking, prostitution, or labor. All of those things occur in the US as well. Are you saying you don't support the US, traitor?

You saw him being a dumbass right before your eyes in the oval office videos. 

He's playing you stooges like a fiddle. 

[jbycho 591]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You should be hiding. You're a blowhard simp seafoam alias. SiD brings intelligence and knowledge you cannot possibly cope with. Sorry I made the mistake of looking at your posts.

Ok Rusty. Keep up the good fight looking stupid. You've been doing it for years here. Why stop now? 

[SaintsInDome2006 380]

4 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Ok. Go hide now..

I could swear you just started a thread about liberals avoiding reality & hiding from “the present.” Trump intervening for international sex traffickers is a present thing happening right now.

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

sec traffickers is a present thing happening right now.

I know, @weepaws has a basement full of them. 

[Nomad99 699]

6 hours ago, Fnord said:

AOC informed immigrants of their rights under US law. She was not telling them where to dig bunkers to hide themselves in. 

You support legal action against a congressional member informing her constituents of their lawful rights? Come on, man!

constituent

1 of 2noun

con·stit·u·ent kən-ˈstich-(ə-)wənt 

: any of the voters who elect a person to represent them

 

Illegals can't vote.....

[Fnord 2,051]

Just now, Nomad99 said:

constituent

1 of 2noun

con·stit·u·ent kən-ˈstich-(ə-)wənt 

: any of the voters who elect a person to represent them

 

Illegals can't vote.....

Do you or anyone else have any proof that she was talking exclusively to illegals? That not a single individual was an American citizen and her constituent?

Even if you did prove that, 1A protects her. Again, she was not giving them detailed plans on how to avoid ICE, or hide in the sewers, or set up the 21st century version of the underground railroad. She was telling them what their lawful rights are. What's illegal about that? Nobody has answered this question.

[jbycho 591]

2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I could swear you just started a thread about liberals avoiding reality & hiding from “the present.” Trump intervening for international sex traffickers is a present thing happening right now.

Last I checked, Trump told the sex trafficking (slave trading) nation of Ukraine to abide by his terms to cut that crap out and they just cried and ran away. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

5 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Last I checked, Trump told the sex trafficking (slave trading) nation of Ukraine to abide by his terms to cut that crap out and they just cried and ran away. 

I can't believe that @SaintsInDome2006 supports Ukraine's Child Trafficking and Slave Labor just because he thinks Zelensky is cute.

[SaintsInDome2006 380]

6 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Last I checked, Trump told the sex trafficking (slave trading) nation of Ukraine to abide by his terms to cut that crap out and they just cried and ran away. 

Trump mentioned nothing about sex trafficking, he didn’t even include oil & gas, or potash.

[SaintsInDome2006 380]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I can't believe that @SaintsInDome2006 supports Ukraine's Child Trafficking and Slave Labor just because he thinks Zelensky is cute.

In all frankness IMO the best thing for that would be to put Ukraine in the EU where - like Romania - it would be subject to its regulations & enforcement mechanisms on that very subject.

[jbycho 591]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump mentioned nothing about sex trafficking, he didn’t even include oil & gas, or potash.

Did he need to? They were on camera for show to sign a deal. Zelensky had too much coke though.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,833]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

No, it doesn't need to be anything. She informed people, including illegals, of their lawful and constitutional rights. She was not helping them commit crimes, aiding and abetting, or anything else. She was practicing her 1A rights, which last I checked, was a pretty big deal for conservatives (and myself personally). That is the prism I look at this through. If you want to treat that as a crime, we are capital F fuct as a nation.

Okay, just to clarify, are you suggesting that non-US Citizens here illegally have US Constitutional Rights?  If she was telling non-US Citizens that are here illegally to do anything other than turn themselves in then, IMO, she certainly was aiding and abetting.

[jbycho 591]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Okay, just to clarify, are you suggesting that non-US Citizens here illegally have US Constitutional Rights?

He said it 3 times. 

I'm starting to think he's Tim. 

[SaintsInDome2006 380]

4 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Did he need to? They were on camera for show to sign a deal. Zelensky had too much coke though.

No, but as was pointed out above if it was a priority for Trump he could have linked it. He regularly links disconnected policy issues in his demands.