Ron_Artest 1,044 Posted March 6 2 hours ago, The Girlfriend said: You are so full of shite. Veterans are allowed to change their primary physician with the VA. Do you not know these things are easily looked up? They are also allowed to have more than 1 form of health insurance. GTFOH He's not a veteran. He just says stupid things to get a reaction. He creates tranny threads all day. He needs to go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted March 6 5 hours ago, Voltaire said: There are a lot of veterans with nothing wrong with them that claim 50% disabilities, but I don't want to open that can of worms There is a massive amount of disability fraud within the military. I see it everday. Sleep apnea gets you disability which is focking ridiculous. Worst one I've seen is 100% percent disability, dude works fulltime and has videos of him jumping his sxs in the desert, buiding his patio, installing heavy azz bumpers on his new 80k truck by himself. He fell off a chair in his office and "ruined" his back. He was a paper pusher stateside. That can of worms very much needs opened Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 582 Posted March 6 19 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: He's not a veteran. He just says stupid things to get a reaction. He creates tranny threads all day. He needs to go. Tell us all about your experience as a vet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,424 Posted March 6 3 hours ago, Fnord said: Privatization? JFC. Sure, why not? I mean when have insurance companies and large corporations ever failed to do the right or humane thing? Saints, all of 'em! Yes, let's definitely privatize it so it becomes even harder for them to pay their medical bills. I don't think you understand the realities of insurance and healthcare. Most hospitals also feature impersonal care and long wait times. Been to an ER lately? It was your beloved deep state which created the endless wars which why we have so many vets. Trump is cutting wastes, savings massive money which will give into providing better care and services. I am not sure why you bootlicking retards can't see government has become a much bigger problem them corporations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 220 Posted March 6 20 minutes ago, shorepatrol said: There is a massive amount of disability fraud within the military. I see it everday. Sleep apnea gets you disability which is focking ridiculous. Worst one I've seen is 100% percent disability, dude works fulltime and has videos of him jumping his sxs in the desert, buiding his patio, installing heavy azz bumpers on his new 80k truck by himself. He fell off a chair in his office and "ruined" his back. He was a paper pusher stateside. That can of worms very much needs opened same with federal employees. can no longer work because of back pain. the fraud and abuse is rampant in the federal government & we are paying for it. Government is not the solution, it's the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 540 Posted March 6 AT&T employs 141k people Apple employs 164k people American Airlines employs 132k people State Farm employs 65k people But there are some people who believe that the VA needs 482k employees? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,799 Posted March 6 What do the 80k do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, MLCKAA said: AT&T employs 141k people Apple employs 164k people American Airlines employs 132k people State Farm employs 65k people But there are some people who believe that the VA needs 482k employees? Apples and Oranges comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 6 10 minutes ago, supermike80 said: What do the 80k do? They don't do anything. They make what they make. Libs don't know what they are sticking up for. This is liberal America at it's best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,799 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: They don't do anything. They make what they make. Libs don't know what they are sticking up for. This is liberal America at it's best. You dont know what they do either. Thats the point. People are reacting with zero facts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 540 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, squistion said: Apples and Oranges comparison. I believe it is apropos. Those are efficient corporations making economic impact and dealing with real-world variables day in, day out. If they can handle the many, many challenges they do and still be as impactful as they are with far fewer employees, then the VA can undergo some scrutiny without all this handwringing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,404 Posted March 6 3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The layoffs aren’t starting until August. Plenty of time to identify the non essentials. This would actually be a reasonable argument- IF the number wasn’t listed beforehand. A normal way to cut waste would be “we looked carefully at the organization and determined there were 50,000 jobs that are wasteful.” Thats what companies do all the time. But when you determine to cut 80,000 jobs BEFORE you examine which are wasteful then you’re guaranteeing you’re going to cut some essential services. And it also forces any reasonable person to reach the conclusion that many already have: that DOGE isn’t really about cutting waste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 6 Just now, supermike80 said: You dont know what they do either. Thats the point. People are reacting with zero facts I'm trusting who I voted for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,404 Posted March 6 Just now, MLCKAA said: I believe it is apropos. Those are efficient corporations making economic impact and dealing with real-world variables day in, day out. If they can handle the many, many challenges they do and still be as impactful as they are with far fewer employees, then the VA can undergo some scrutiny without all this handwringing. Cutting employment without a careful examination of what is and what is not essential strikes me as the opposite of efficiency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Cutting employment without a careful examination of what is and what is not essential strikes me as the opposite of efficiency. Cutting inefficient employment wasting tax payer dollars is hurting you? Cool. Glad you lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 540 Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This would actually be a reasonable argument- IF the number wasn’t listed beforehand. A normal way to cut waste would be “we looked carefully at the organization and determined there were 50,000 jobs that are wasteful.” Thats what companies do all the time. But when you determine to cut 80,000 jobs BEFORE you examine which are wasteful then you’re guaranteeing you’re going to cut some essential services. And it also forces any reasonable person to reach the conclusion that many already have: that DOGE isn’t really about cutting waste. Handling this way does not “guarantee” the loss of essential services. That’s simply not quantifiable. Don’t use hyperbole. It allows the possibility of that happening, as well as the possibility of it not happening. It allows the possibility that the number 80,000 will eventually be deemed too few cuts. Going with an arbitrary number (if it even is arbitrary, which you wouldn’t know) guarantees only one thing— the number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 540 Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Cutting employment without a careful examination of what is and what is not essential strikes me as the opposite of efficiency. *You* believe they’re being hasty, but you do not know what has been examined. Simply, you do not know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,404 Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, MLCKAA said: *You* believe they’re being hasty, but you do not know what has been examined. Simply, you do not know. OK fair enough. I think it’s a reasonable assumption to make that they didn’t have the proper time to assess this information. Trump has been President 8 weeks, DOGE in place 6 weeks. I put it to you that there is simply no way in that amount of time to decide what cuts to make. But you may believe differently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 6 6 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: You're not a vet. You're an idiot. And a piece of sh1t. Are you a vet? What's your situation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: OK fair enough. I think it’s a reasonable assumption to make that they didn’t have the proper time to assess this information. Trump has been President 8 weeks, DOGE in place 6 weeks. I put it to you that there is simply no way in that amount of time to decide what cuts to make. But you may believe differently. How about this as a solution to your problem? Fock off. Or do something about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,922 Posted March 6 32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Cutting employment without a careful examination of what is and what is not essential strikes me as the opposite of efficiency. You think about six months would be enough time for an assessment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted March 6 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You think about six months would be enough time for an assessment? Good thing they’re thinking things through. I wouldn’t trust these morons to do anything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 6 Just now, The Girlfriend said: Good thing they’re thinking things through. I wouldn’t trust these morons to do anything. You trusting or not trusting anything in this lifetime means absolutely nothing to anyone other than you. Your constant whining is annoying though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,922 Posted March 6 Is someone using Rolling Stone as a source? Cracked wasn’t available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 323 Posted March 6 1 hour ago, squistion said: Apples and Oranges comparison. You got nothing as always Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said: You got nothing as always He can't afford apples and oranges. He's yet another broke liberal looking to get freebies from our government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted March 6 A caveat of the bill, however, seems to lie in the launching of a new pilot program. Per Section 302, the bill will direct a three-year pilot program to allow enrolled veterans to access private mental health treatment and substance use services through the community care network — without requiring a referral or preauthorization. Participants would be outside of the VA’s care jurisdiction for those care options. The pilot, the bill says, is based on TRICARE Prime. Unlike VA Care, TRICARE Prime mainly deals with active duty service members and their families and is managed by the Department of Defense. "It is changing the VA primarily into an insurance carrier and paying for care that does not have to be authorized or pre-authorized by the VA,” said Russell Lemle, a senior policy advisor for the Veterans Healthcare Policy Institute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,051 Posted March 6 12 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Is someone using Rolling Stone as a source? Cracked wasn’t available? Says the guy whose imagination and regurgitation of uncited Tucker Carlson opinions serve as primary sources. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,094 Posted March 6 13 hours ago, The Girlfriend said: Good thing they’re thinking things through. I wouldn’t trust these morons to do anything. A transgender mouse has made Disney an untold amount of money---seriously, that's just Mickey in drag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,094 Posted March 6 36 minutes ago, Fnord said: Says the guy whose imagination and regurgitation of uncited Tucker Carlson opinions serve as primary sources. That's not fair-he doesn't provide sources, so we really don't know where he gets his stupid ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
