Ron_Artest 998 Posted March 5 Let the suckers and losers fend for themselves I guess. https://apnews.com/article/veterans-affairs-cuts-doge-musk-trump-f587a6bc3db6a460e9c357592e165712 The Department of Veterans Affairs is planning a reorganization that includes cutting over 80,000 jobs from the sprawling agency that provides health care for retired military members, according to an internal memo obtained by The Associated Press. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,326 Posted March 5 How would this be different than my employer or any other employer laying off 200-1000 people every two weeks for the last year? What about the fast food workers that all lost their jobs due to efficiencies or costs? I mean, they are all suckers and losers too? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,927 Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: How would this be different than my employer or any other employer laying off 200-1000 people every two weeks for the last year? What about the fast food workers that all lost their jobs due to efficiencies or costs? I mean, they are all suckers and losers too? https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1897340814197461218 BREAKING: Trump is gutting the Department of Veterans Affairs—firing 80,000 workers and leaving millions of veterans stranded. The same guy who ran on “supporting our troops” is now slashing VA jobs, making it harder for veterans to get healthcare, benefits, and disability assistance. They’re calling it “fiscal responsibility.” Let’s be real—it’s punishing veterans while funneling money into corporate tax breaks. Imagine sending people to war and then telling them, “Sorry, no doctors, no support—figure it out.” That’s the Trump Doctrine in action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 998 Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: How would this be different than my employer or any other employer laying off 200-1000 people every two weeks for the last year? What about the fast food workers that all lost their jobs due to efficiencies or costs? I mean, they are all suckers and losers too? We have a duty as a nation to protect and care for the people that we send to fight in our wars to protect our freedoms. I'm sorry you can't see the difference. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 545 Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: We have a duty as a nation to protect and care for the people that we send to fight in our wars to protect our freedoms. I'm sorry you can't see the difference. I thought it was about funding foreign wars? Make up your mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,160 Posted March 5 We know that they are going through the federal government looking to find places to cut costs and lay off workers. The VA isn't exactly a place that I like to see cuts, considering that I use the VA. First, we'll check the veracity of the internal memo, then, if true, we'll see how deeply it affects services. The AP got the scoop as they are the only one reporting this, but they are a reliable source so far as the MSM goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 545 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Voltaire said: We know that they are going through the federal government looking to find places to cut costs and lay off workers. The VA isn't exactly a place that I like to see cuts, considering that I use the VA. First, we'll check the veracity of the internal memo, then, if true, we'll see how deeply it affects services. The AP got the scoop as they are the only one reporting this, but they are a reliable source so far as the MSM goes. If they are wasting money. Call them out. Easy peasy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,232 Posted March 5 Fact: they are cutting jobs Opinion: it will affect Veterans 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,331 Posted March 5 27 minutes ago, squistion said: https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1897340814197461218 BREAKING: Trump is gutting the Department of Veterans Affairs—firing 80,000 workers and leaving millions of veterans stranded. The same guy who ran on “supporting our troops” is now slashing VA jobs, making it harder for veterans to get healthcare, benefits, and disability assistance. They’re calling it “fiscal responsibility.” Let’s be real—it’s punishing veterans while funneling money into corporate tax breaks. Imagine sending people to war and then telling them, “Sorry, no doctors, no support—figure it out.” That’s the Trump Doctrine in action. 16% isn't gutting. The memo plans to increase worker efficiently. Real corporations do that all the time. It's about time the bloated government does too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,864 Posted March 5 Lots of bloat in the VA. Much redundancy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 545 Posted March 5 All of a sudden it's wrong to fix waste in government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,160 Posted March 5 37 minutes ago, jbycho said: If they are wasting money. Call them out. Easy peasy. Yeah. I sure don't have a problem with them cutting every other agency. Seeing them come round to the one I actually use, eh, but I'm not going to be a hypocrite. I know that the objective is to save money by cutting bloat, not reducing services. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 998 Posted March 5 Just now, Voltaire said: Yeah. I sure don't have a problem with them cutting every other agency. Seeing them come round to the one I actually use, eh, but I'm not going to be a hypocrite. I know that the objective is to save money by cutting bloat, not reducing services. Services will be reduced. 100%. You can argue that veterans should have austerity too if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,160 Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Services will be reduced. 100%. You can argue that veterans should have austerity too if you want. There are a lot of veterans with nothing wrong with them that claim 50% disabilities, but I don't want to open that can of worms because that guy and that one over there are legit and deserve every penny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,421 Posted March 5 We are only 36 trillion in debt. Why not just keep that sucker growing exponentially. It will be 100 trillion before long. And then what? All this stupid talk of Trump taking your SS and Medicare. If anything, he is saving it. And if you take off taxes on SS, it will make it go a lot further. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 424 Posted March 5 Please don't let this affect overall care of our Veterans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,790 Posted March 5 Just now, BufordT said: Please don't let this affect overall care of our Veterans. You don't want to take away government waste on programs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 424 Posted March 5 Just now, seafoam1 said: You don't want to take away government waste on programs? I'm sure there's plenty of waste at the VA's around the country and I'm all for cleaning up the waste. BUT, can we agree this should not be done at the expense of our Veteran's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 998 Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, jonmx said: We are only 36 trillion in debt. Why not just keep that sucker growing exponentially. It will be 100 trillion before long. And then what? All this stupid talk of Trump taking your SS and Medicare. If anything, he is saving it. And if you take off taxes on SS, it will make it go a lot further. Before Trump ever stepped into the White House we were only 20 trillion in debt. This isn't about reducing debt, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,790 Posted March 5 Just now, BufordT said: I'm sure there's plenty of waste at the VA's around the country and I'm all for cleaning up the waste. BUT, can we agree this should not be done at the expense of our Veteran's? Nothing should be done at the expense of the average hard working American. Not at all. That includes the military and the retired hard working work force that has sustained this country. I agree with that. But I don't think that DOGE is there to hurt citizens. I think it's in place to stop political BS. And if indeed the VA is giving millions in kickbacks to politicians, we should know about it and prosecute or at least stop it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,790 Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Before Trump ever stepped into the White House we were only 20 trillion in debt. This isn't about reducing debt, Your terrible wrong information is getting old sweetie. Go make out with timmy. You two would have a lot to talk about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 998 Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Nothing should be done at the expense of the average hard working American. Not at all. That includes the military and the retired hard working work force that has sustained this country. I agree with that. But I don't think that DOGE is there to hurt citizens. I think it's in place to stop political BS. And if indeed the VA is giving millions in kickbacks to politicians, we should know about it and prosecute or at least stop it. It's not about political BS or kickbacks. That's a fantasy. They're cutting real jobs, hardworking americans who provide services for all of us. They are losing their jobs and we are losing those services. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,331 Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, BufordT said: I'm sure there's plenty of waste at the VA's around the country and I'm all for cleaning up the waste. BUT, can we agree this should not be done at the expense of our Veteran's? Yep. 100% And there is plenty of verbiage in the leaked memo suggesting the same. But the Democrats on the hill today, much like the tiny brain OP, are skyscreaming that theyre already hurt before any cuts even happen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 998 Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Your terrible wrong information is getting old sweetie. Go make out with timmy. You two would have a lot to talk about. https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/historical-debt-outstanding/historical-debt-outstanding Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,790 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Horseman said: Yep. 100% And there is plenty of verbiage in the leaked memo suggesting the same. But the Democrats on the hill today, much like the tiny brain OP, are skyscreaming that theyre already hurt before any cuts even happen. Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 424 Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Nothing should be done at the expense of the average hard working American. Not at all. That includes the military and the retired hard working work force that has sustained this country. I agree with that. But I don't think that DOGE is there to hurt citizens. I think it's in place to stop political BS. And if indeed the VA is giving millions in kickbacks to politicians, we should know about it and prosecute or at least stop it. That's a decent response out of you. Fair enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,326 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: We have a duty as a nation to protect and care for the people that we send to fight in our wars to protect our freedoms. I'm sorry you can't see the difference. Of course we do. I can see the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,167 Posted March 5 13 minutes ago, BufordT said: I'm sure there's plenty of waste at the VA's around the country and I'm all for cleaning up the waste. BUT, can we agree this should not be done at the expense of our Veteran's? This is my stance as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,790 Posted March 5 9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/historical-debt-outstanding/historical-debt-outstanding search on jan. 20 2025 to march 5, 2025. is this some database query that a .gov DEI intern made as a senior project? I would hate to think our government is actually paying money for crap like that Go DOGE!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 998 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: search on jan. 20 2025 to march 5, 2025. Donald Trump was president between 2016 and 2020 bruh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,160 Posted March 5 12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Before Trump ever stepped into the White House we were only 20 trillion in debt. This isn't about reducing debt, They're not going to find enough money to save to offset the tax cuts they want to do as well as balance the budget because Trump has placed so many popular programs off limits. The GOP is going to infight and the Dems aren't going to help them. Something is going to give (and we've seen this movie played dozens of time before, it'll be the same thing that always gives when there is a budget dispute.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,722 Posted March 5 I have no proy 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: Let the suckers and losers fend for themselves I guess. THIS IS WONDERFUL! THE VA KILLS VETERANS. THIS NEEDED TO BE DONE YEARS AGO. VETERANS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO ANYWHERE THEY WANT FOR TREATMENT, THE VA IS NO LONGER NEEDED. BYE!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,790 Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Donald Trump was president between 2016 and 2020 bruh. Donald Trump is president in 2025... "bruh". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,790 Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: I have no proy THIS IS WONDERFUL! THE VA KILLS VETERANS. THIS NEEDED TO BE DONE YEARS AGO. VETERANS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO ANYWHERE THEY WANT FOR TREATMENT, THE VA IS NO LONGER NEEDED. BYE!!!! I don't really care how they get along in life. Just like they don't care how I get along. I just want DOGE to get the focking lowlife useless government workers and the handouts out of our system. I want all to be healthy, well off, and smart. Liberals refuse this sentiment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,232 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Fact: they are cutting jobs Opinion: it will affect Veterans 24 minutes ago, BufordT said: I'm sure there's plenty of waste at the VA's around the country and I'm all for cleaning up the waste. BUT, can we agree this should not be done at the expense of our Veteran's? see this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,421 Posted March 5 20 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Before Trump ever stepped into the White House we were only 20 trillion in debt. This isn't about reducing debt, That was 8 years ago, so focking what. I was not a big fan of Trump I, he was clueless. He surrounded himself with deep state backstabbing liars. The whole COVID shutdown was stupid from the beginning. Trump was a fool. There is a ton of blame to go around for the deficit, but it mainly rest in deep state politics which secretly took over this country. We had a uniparty for decades, where the difference between the parties were based on a few meaningless social issues. Trump II has changed all that. The people are taking the country back and putting a knife into the heart of the deep state authoritarianism you bootlicking retards worship. Deal with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,722 Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: I don't really care how they get along in life. Just like they don't care how I get along. I just want DOGE to get the focking lowlife useless government workers and the handouts out of our system. I want all to be healthy, well off, and smart. Liberals refuse this sentiment. The VA is a joke. Soldiers waiting weeks, sometimes months for critical care. My Father died in VA care, I refuse to go through the VA THIS IS AN AMAZING WIN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,722 Posted March 5 13 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Donald Trump was president between 2016 and 2020 bruh. Ever been under VA care? Of course not, you're a pud who would die immediately in combat. This is the best thing that could ever happen to our Vets. You hate our Vets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 998 Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Ever been under VA care? Of course not, you're a pud who would die immediately in combat. This is the best thing that could ever happen to our Vets. You hate our Vets You're not a vet. You're an idiot. And a piece of sh1t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
