US arrests and Deports Antisemitic Jew Hating Palestinian Student In Columbia University protests against Gaza war

[Cdub100 3,910]

44 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Tim isn’t a Jewish supremacist. He’s a self loathing Jew. You two are probably more aligned about Israel than either of you care to admit 

They different but also the same. It's paradoxical which is the way the Jew works 

[Maximum Overkill 1,998]

33 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Absolutely. As are most Americans. Questioning the policies, actions, and motives of the Israeli government does not mean one is antisemitic or supporting Hamas. 

Except you can't help but wave your cute little blue and yellow Ukraine Flag can you? Never questioning, never wavering. 

You're patheticly sad. 

[Mark Davis 398]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Because every time there is a protest over something this emotional, it has the potential to attract bad actors who perform individual acts of violence, and in this case it would likely be against Jews. That is almost never the fault of the organizers. However as I wrote earlier many Jewish students did attend and participate in these protests and nothing happened to them. 
 

There are also often counter-protests and these also can lead to violent confrontations. This is also not the fault of the organizer. 

It may be worth asking why these admitted “bad actors” always seem to show up at these specific types of protests. 

[TheNewGirl 1,494]

10 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

The short of it is that he’s not an American and any acts whether occupying buildings illegally or supporting Hamas should give rise to him losing the privilege of being here. It’s pretty simple. My moral code tells me American kids shouldn’t be prevented and/or afraid to go to class, especially by a foreign national we have extended the courtesy of being on our soil. If he can’t abide by that, then he should go. 

 NO one should be afraid to go to class. 

 

[squistion 2,203]

4 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

 NO one should be afraid to go to class. 

And no one should be afraid to exercise their first amendment right of free speech. 

[Fnord 2,279]

19 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Except you can't help but wave your cute little blue and yellow Ukraine Flag can you? Never questioning, never wavering. 

Link, bot boy?

[Maximum Overkill 1,998]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Link, bot boy?

I'm a Russian Bot, we just found out that your Mom is on the Epstein List 

[RLLD 4,232]

10 minutes ago, squistion said:

And no one should be afraid to exercise their first amendment right of free speech. 

I disagree, to some extent. We have precedence for those who are not citizens.

In 1904 the urner v. Williams, a Supreme Court case established that non citizens can be deported if they engage in specific dangerous activities or if they have certain dangerous views that those “who hold and advocate them would be undesirable additions to our population.”   The court also  has further esgablished that the First Amendment might apply with some conditions to foreigners

Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, passed in 1952, a visa holder who “endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support for terrorist organizations....and I think we have ample evidence that this coward supports Hamas

[Cdub100 3,910]

11 minutes ago, squistion said:

And no one should be afraid to exercise their first amendment right of free speech. 

There's only one country that people should be afraid to speak out against.

Time and time again this is proven true 

[TheNewGirl 1,494]

19 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

 

   

Haaaaaa!!!!! The VIOLENT LIBERAL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IS GETTING DEPORTED!!! 

 

Federal immigration authorities arrested a Palestinian activist Saturday who played a prominent role in Columbia University’s protests against Israel, a significant escalation in the Trump administration’s pledge to detain and deport student activists.

Mahmoud Khalil, a graduate student at Columbia until this past December, was inside his university-owned apartment Saturday night when several Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents entered and took him into custody, his attorney, Amy Greer, told The Associated Press.

Greer said she spoke by phone with one of the ICE agents during the arrest, who said they were acting on State Department orders to revoke Khalil’s student visa

So I am reading that this guys was like the "leader" of some of the student protests on campus over the last year or so; the "face" of the protests and he's been under investigation for some time by the university itself. 

Not sure if he was ever violent himself, but "leading" the violent protests doesn't really paint a great picture of him either. Esp that most of these groups were saying things like Kill all Jews, etc. Or preventing students from going to certain parts of campus. 

Free speech is one thing, but endangering students lives, keeping them off of campus, saying that they should "all die" or whatever...not sure about that.  

Taking it to the BLM thread, but pretty sure that free speech and saying Kill all AA's wouldn't go over well and would be seen as terroristic threats. 

 

Anyways. I am not entirely sure this guy is as innocent as he's trying to make it out to be. He doesn't have a VISA tho, he has a green card, which apparently the govt can also revoke. 

 

[squistion 2,203]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I disagree, to some extent. We have precedence for those who are not citizens.

In 1904 the urner v. Williams, a Supreme Court case established that non citizens can be deported if they engage in specific dangerous activities or if they have certain dangerous views that those “who hold and advocate them would be undesirable additions to our population.”   The court also  has further esgablished that the First Amendment might apply with some conditions to foreigners

Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, passed in 1952, a visa holder who “endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization” can be deported.  I think there would need to be strong evidence, as they already have with this coward.....

So, I think the stay is a bump in the road, but we can put this terrorist back home, and remove his poison from our nation, and notably our educational system

Has ICE proven in a court of law that Kahil Mahmood “endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity"?

[TheNewGirl 1,494]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Has ICE proven in a court of law that Kahil Mahmood “endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity"?

Not yet. 

But as stated above, he was basically the front man for a LOT of the protests last year, nominated as a "negotiator" or something like that. 

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At Columbia, Khalil was selected to serve as a negotiator for the students during the Gaza Solidarity Encampment on the university campus and spent 17 months protesting Israel’s bombardment of Gaza.

Why is there an encampment at a school? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,448]

50 minutes ago, Fnord said:

That's just stupid and ignorant, not antisemitic in most cases. LOL at the infatuation with Soros. He's the monster hiding in MAGA closets and under their beds; the boogeyman. MAGA has lots of boogeymen. They have to keep a large supply of "others" to blame for their own ineffectuality.

Yeah. Spending all that money and his son going in and out of the White House seemingly at will isn’t real. Just a boogeyman. 

[squistion 2,203]

3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

So I am reading that this guys was like the "leader" of some of the student protests on campus over the last year or so; the "face" of the protests and he's been under investigation for some time by the university itself. 

Not sure if he was ever violent himself, but "leading" the violent protests doesn't really paint a great picture of him either. Esp that most of these groups were saying things like Kill all Jews, etc. Or preventing students from going to certain parts of campus. 

Free speech is one thing, but endangering students lives, keeping them off of campus, saying that they should "all die" or whatever...not sure about that.  

Taking it to the BLM thread, but pretty sure that free speech and saying Kill all AA's wouldn't go over well and would be seen as terroristic threats. 

Anyways. I am not entirely sure this guy is as innocent as he's trying to make it out to be. He doesn't have a VISA tho, he has a green card, which apparently the govt can also revoke. 

No, I doubt that it would be considered as a terrorist threat, but depending on the wording and who it was directed against it could be viewed as an incitement to violence.

[RLLD 4,232]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

Has ICE proven in a court of law that Kahil Mahmood “endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity"?

They do not need to.   

[Hardcore troubadour 15,448]

20 minutes ago, squistion said:

And no one should be afraid to exercise their first amendment right of free speech. 

If he did it off campus no one would have said anything. 

[squistion 2,203]

2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Not yet. 

But as stated above, he was basically the front man for a LOT of the protests last year, nominated as a "negotiator" or something like that. 

Why is there an encampment at a school? 

Which is where due process comes in here along that pesky "innocent until proven guilty" concept. 

[RLLD 4,232]

 

[RLLD 4,232]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If he did it off campus no one would have said anything. 

I disagree.  I think the hate he has espoused on social media and through his terrorist sympathizer group

He needs to go, as do many others who are here promoting terrorism.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,448]

I wonder if in the long history of protests at Columbia university if one group of students were told to stay home for their well being? 

[Fnord 2,279]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 

That was pretty good, thanks. I might even watch this network in the future. Seems like Cuomo is acting like a real journalist.

[RLLD 4,232]

Just now, Fnord said:

That was pretty good, thanks. I might even watch this network in the future. Seems like Cuomo is acting like a real journalist.

I recommend giving him a try.  He is actually legitimately trying to be an actual journalist now.  I do not always agree with his take on things, but now I find more agreement than disagreement.

[squistion 2,203]

12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I disagree.  I think the hate he has espoused on social media and through his terrorist sympathizer group

He needs to go, as do many others who are here promoting terrorism.

What did he specifically do, what laws did he break that he has been charged with to warrant deportation?

[Cdub100 3,910]

Just now, squistion said:

What did he specifically do, what laws did he break that he has been charged with to warrant deportation?

Criticizing Israel. 

[The Real timschochet 6,777]

33 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

So I am reading that this guys was like the "leader" of some of the student protests on campus over the last year or so; the "face" of the protests and he's been under investigation for some time by the university itself. 

Not sure if he was ever violent himself, but "leading" the violent protests doesn't really paint a great picture of him either. Esp that most of these groups were saying things like Kill all Jews, etc. Or preventing students from going to certain parts of campus. 

Free speech is one thing, but endangering students lives, keeping them off of campus, saying that they should "all die" or whatever...not sure about that.  

Taking it to the BLM thread, but pretty sure that free speech and saying Kill all AA's wouldn't go over well and would be seen as terroristic threats. 

 

Anyways. I am not entirely sure this guy is as innocent as he's trying to make it out to be. He doesn't have a VISA tho, he has a green card, which apparently the govt can also revoke. 

 

Maybe you’re right. I don’t find the evidence compelling…yet. If it turns out to be I will change my mind. 

[RLLD 4,232]

Just now, squistion said:

What did he specifically do, what laws did he break that he has been charged with to warrant deportation?

He has been accused by DHS of supporting Hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. government. The DHS alleges that Khalil led activities aligned with Hamas, labeling him a national security threat. However, as of now, he has not been formally charged with any crime. While immigrants, including those with visas and green cards, have free speech rights under the First Amendment, they can still be detained or deported if found participating in terrorism-related activities.

 He is specifically accused of distributing pro-Hamas propaganda flyers and organizing protests that allegedly harassed Jewish students on campus. He is trying to now back track on his documented actions by suggesting he was not really doing the things he stated in his social media posts he was doing.

[MDC 7,440]

American First guy pardons criminals for storming the US Capitol but deports them for protesting Israel. 

[The Real timschochet 6,777]

Just now, RLLD said:

He has been accused by DHS of supporting Hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. government. The DHS alleges that Khalil led activities aligned with Hamas, labeling him a national security threat. However, as of now, he has not been formally charged with any crime. While immigrants, including those with visas and green cards, have free speech rights under the First Amendment, they can still be detained or deported if found participating in terrorism-related activities.

 He is specifically accused of distributing pro-Hamas propaganda flyers and organizing protests that allegedly harassed Jewish students on campus. He is trying to now back track on his documented actions by suggesting he was not really doing the things he stated in his social media posts he was doing.

Again the devil is in the details. What does supporting Hamas mean? What is pro-Hamas propaganda? 

I just want to point out that I have stated many times in this forum that Hamas is an evil organization and that its leadership deserves death, yet because I have also criticized Israel, some people here have labelled me as “Pro-Hamas”. As a result I tend to be a bit cynical about this sort of designation. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,998]

4 minutes ago, MDC said:

American First guy pardons criminals for storming the US Capitol but deports them for protesting Israel. 

Will you miss them? 

[squistion 2,203]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

He has been accused by DHS of supporting Hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. government. The DHS alleges that Khalil led activities aligned with Hamas, labeling him a national security threat. However, as of now, he has not been formally charged with any crime. While immigrants, including those with visas and green cards, have free speech rights under the First Amendment, they can still be detained or deported if found participating in terrorism-related activities.

 He is specifically accused of distributing pro-Hamas propaganda flyers and organizing protests that allegedly harassed Jewish students on campus. He is trying to now back track on his documented actions by suggesting he was not really doing the things he stated in his social media posts he was doing.

Exactly. Lots of things against him have been alleged, but no charges filed for any crime, hence the due process issues. Not to say that he won't be eventually deported (I think he will) just that the Constiutional requirements need to be followed in the meantime. 

[squistion 2,203]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Again the devil is in the details. What does supporting Hamas mean? What is pro-Hamas propaganda? 

I just want to point out that I have stated many times in this forum that Hamas is an evil organization and that its leadership deserves death, yet because I have also criticized Israel, some people here have labelled me as “Pro-Hamas”. As a result I tend to be a bit cynical about this sort of designation. 

At this point who knows. That is really vague and open to interpretation. 

[RLLD 4,232]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Again the devil is in the details. What does supporting Hamas mean? What is pro-Hamas propaganda? 

I just want to point out that I have stated many times in this forum that Hamas is an evil organization and that its leadership deserves death, yet because I have also criticized Israel, some people here have labelled me as “Pro-Hamas”. As a result I tend to be a bit cynical about this sort of designation. 

Everything we have seen from them on campus qualifies for me.   You may have a higher standard, and that is fine, but then again you do not have to suffer at their hands either, so its awfully easy for you to support these hateful pieces of filth.

SO by all means, get these hateful exploitive people away from this nation, more pointedly, away from our schools.

[RLLD 4,232]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Exactly. Lots of things against him have been alleged, but no charges filed for any crime, hence the due process issues. Not to say that he won't be eventually deported (I think he will) just that the Constiutional requirements need to be followed in the meantime. 

What process do you presume should be applied here? SO far the process is clearly being followed.

[squistion 2,203]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What process do you presume should be applied here? SO far the process is clearly being followed.

An adjudication in a court of law with prrof that he broke some law, not these vague accusals and accusations that he is supporting Hamas or distributing pro-Hamas propaganda (neither of which are illegal).

[RLLD 4,232]

Just now, squistion said:

An adjudication in a court of law with prrof that he broke some law, not these vague accusals and accusations that he is supporting Hamas or distributing pro-Hamas propaganda (neither of which are illegal).

I do not see that requirement.  I guess there is some lawyer that maybe could sue or something....they would lose since the government has the right to deport through an Act of Congress.....

No....no need for court otherwise.....

[squistion 2,203]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I do not see that requirement.  I guess there is some lawyer that maybe could sue or something....they would lose since the government has the right to deport through an Act of Congress.....

No....no need for court otherwise.....

If he is here legally (he has a student visa and a green card) then due process under the law has to be followed before he can be deported (it just can't be because Trump doesn't like him expressing pro-Hamas views).

[RLLD 4,232]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

If he is here legally (he has a student visa and a green card) then due process under the law has to be followed before he can be deported (it just can't be because Trump doesn't like him expressing pro-Hamas views).

No, its does not require any "due process of law".

The Immigration and Nationality Act  passed by Congress in 1952 and has been amended several times since. It specifically states in Section 237 of the INA  the grounds for deportation, including criminal offenses, national security threats, and violations of immigration law.  The Patriot Act of 2001 and the REAL ID Act of 2005 expanded the government's ability to deport individuals tied to terrorist organizations.

This clown is being tied to Hamas, a terrorist organization, through his distribution of that entities propaganda on campus....they caught him....

There is no requirement for any court to execute this act by the Secretary of State.

[squistion 2,203]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No, its does not require any "due process of law".

The Immigration and Nationality Act  passed by Congress in 1952 and has been amended several times since. It specifically states in Section 237 of the INA  the grounds for deportation, including criminal offenses, national security threats, and violations of immigration law.  The Patriot Act of 2001 and the REAL ID Act of 2005 expanded the government's ability to deport individuals tied to terrorist organizations.

This clown is being tied to Hamas, a terrorist organization, through his distribution of that entities propaganda on campus....they caught him....

There is no requirement for any court to execute this act by the Secretary of State.

Sorry, but they still have to prove a national security threat or violations of immigration law, that is why the judge put a hold on the deportation proceedings.

[RLLD 4,232]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Sorry, but they still have to prove a national security threat or violations of immigration law, that is why the judge put a hold on the deportation proceedings.

No, they do not.

Now, if some lawyer wants to step up and file suit to protect this terrorist, then it might require court, but I doubt they can challenge the authority presented to the Sec of State through this act of congress....they can try of course....but they will lose....thakfully.

Here is the really good news.....they have more of these pieces of filth they will be removing.....

[squistion 2,203]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No, they do not.

Now, if some lawyer wants to step up and file suit to protect this terrorist, then it might require court, but I doubt they can challenge the authority presented to the Sec of State through this act of congress....they can try of course....but they will lose....thakfully.

Here is the really good news.....they have more of these pieces of filth they will be removing.....

I am sure they will be deporting more but they will have to follow due process with those also.