The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 24 Just now, NEWPOSTERGUY! said: Yes - but we, as a collective society, chose enlightenment, unlike Islam. This is part is true. I disagree with the rest of what you wrote. Here is my argument, which is a rejection of nearly everything that has been written in this thread: I believe that the vast majority of Muslims who come to live in this country have also chosen Enlightenment, rejecting those tenets of Islam that are incompatible with it. Furthermore as part of OUR acceptance of our own ideals. We must treat them as individuals and not as a group who is a collective threat. Therefore we should welcome them in without regard to their religion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: This is part is true. I disagree with the rest of what you wrote. Here is my argument, which is a rejection of nearly everything that has been written in this thread: I believe that the vast majority of Muslims who come to live in this country have also chosen Enlightenment, rejecting those tenets of Islam that are incompatible with it. Furthermore as part of OUR acceptance of our own ideals. We must treat them as individuals and not as a group who is a collective threat. Therefore we should welcome them in without regard to their religion. You think the ones in France, German and England have chosen enlightenment and rejected the tenants of Islam that are in conflict with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 24 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Because what was behind the documents was the will of the people. Hers was a poem from her perspective. There’s a big difference. Not to me. In any event do you really think that if the general public has been opposed to the poem it would have been placed on the statue anyhow? That’s absurd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You think the ones in France, German and England have chosen enlightenment and rejected the tenants of Islam that are in conflict with it? Most of them yes. A few of them no, and if those cause trouble they will have to be dealt with. But I am firmly convinced that most Muslims living in France, Germany and England both enjoy and contribute to the western way of life and personal freedoms that dominate those countries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,582 Posted March 24 13 minutes ago, NEWPOSTERGUY! said: Islam's only end game is total capitulation at the feet of the Caliphate/Sharia ... assimilation is not in the playbook ... biding time until majority rule IS. The simple truth that people choose not to hear 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 288 Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, HellToupee said: The simple truth that people choose not to hear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,582 Posted March 24 13 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Maybe you should have dropped it like we agreed to but you had to keep pushing lies about me siding with a rapist. Trash. What happened to Gutter pedro ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Not to me. In any event do you really think that if the general public has been opposed to the poem it would have been placed on the statue anyhow? That’s absurd. That’s pretty funny considering your side has an issue with the star spangled banner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Most of them yes. A few of them no, and if those cause trouble they will have to be dealt with. But I am firmly convinced that most Muslims living in France, Germany and England both enjoy and contribute to the western way of life and personal freedoms that dominate those countries. They aren’t dealt with Tim. 10k British white girls were groomed and raped by Muslim men. It was covered up by the authorities. There are no go zones in France and other places, some just won’t admit it. You don’t like bad news it seems. Sweden is also out of control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 24 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They aren’t dealt with Tim. 10k British white girls were groomed and raped by Muslim men. It was covered up by the authorities. There are no go zones in France and other places, some just won’t admit it. You don’t like bad news it seems. Sweden is also out of control. You’re repeating news from questionable sources which has mostly been proven false. You’re fearmongering, and you’re repeating this trash because you want to believe it. https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/posts/refugees-and-islamophobia-in-western-europe-the-boomerang-effect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,020 Posted March 24 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 10k British white girls were groomed and raped by Muslim men. It was covered up by the authorities. Your lies are usually humorous but now it's really ugly and gross. On brand for you. Stop being such a sh1tbag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,582 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Your lies are usually humorous but now it's really ugly and gross. On brand for you. Stop being such a sh1tbag. Where is the lie in his post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 Just now, HellToupee said: Where is the lie in his post? They don’t get the news. They are given the news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,181 Posted March 24 I am just hoping my Muslim overlords will still allow me to get pork sausage at Denny's in my old age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,582 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They don’t get the news. They are given the news. The info is out there even on YouTube that makes a habit of censoring This is from 2 months ago this is 12 years ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,582 Posted March 24 4 minutes ago, Strike said: I am just hoping my Muslim overlords will still allow me to get pork sausage at Denny's in my old age. I have some bad news for you about this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,940 Posted March 24 13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Really? I stand for freedom, the rights of the individual, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the words of Emma Lazarus as written on the Statue of Liberty. What do you stand for? I asked him the same question, which he never directly addressed either, probably because any answer would only make him look like an even worse bigot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,117 Posted March 24 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Wait/ what “people” elected Thomas Jefferson to write the Declaration of Independence? Elected delegate to the 2nd Continental Congress as I was taught in grade school. I beleive from memory it was the 4th grade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 19 minutes ago, HellToupee said: The info is out there even on YouTube that makes a habit of censoring This is from 2 months ago this is 12 years ago I bet Tim and Gutter don’t know that there are different sentencing guidelines for crimes committed by migrants or whatever you want to call them. Not judges carrying out lighter sentences on their own, but it’s the actual policy. Native White boys still get the usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,117 Posted March 24 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Some of them were selected. But I still don’t understand your point. What difference does it make to the ideals behind the documents that Emma Lazarus was never elected? Her poetry is far from a foundational document. It has no force of law and no national ratification. As I recall she was a midwesterner from a small town in the late 1800's. She was very much a product of her time and place and had no idea folks with an agenda 150 years later would hold forth her words as if it were some sort of controlling national policy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,020 Posted March 24 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I bet Tim and Gutter don’t know that there are different sentencing guidelines for crimes committed by migrants or whatever you want to call them. Not judges carrying out lighter sentences on their own, but it’s the actual policy. Native White boys still get the usual. More lies. https://www.logicallyfacts.com/en/fact-check/uk-hasnt-passed-law-to-give-minorities-lighter-sentences-than-white-britons 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 40 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Your lies are usually humorous but now it's really ugly and gross. On brand for you. Stop being such a sh1tbag. I see you’re denying the rapes of young girls have taken place again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: More lies. https://www.logicallyfacts.com/en/fact-check/uk-hasnt-passed-law-to-give-minorities-lighter-sentences-than-white-britons Yeah, I wasn’t 100 pct accurate. But the result is the same, more consideration given to ethnic minorities and faith minorities. I guess you win. Congrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,472 Posted March 24 Imagine fighting in the crusades or the expulsion of moriscos just for some western Jew d!ckhead to want to hold the door open for them 800 years later 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,824 Posted March 24 Just now, iam90sbaby said: Imagine fighting in the crusades or the expulsion of moriscos just for some western Jew d!ckhead to want to hold the door open for them 800 years later Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 24 39 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Her poetry is far from a foundational document. It has no force of law and no national ratification. As I recall she was a midwesterner from a small town in the late 1800's. She was very much a product of her time and place and had no idea folks with an agenda 150 years later would hold forth her words as if it were some sort of controlling national policy. I never claimed it was. I was writing about things that I stand for. Her poem is one of those things. I happen to believe that it represents the best of Americanism. But that’s me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 361 Posted March 24 If this Muslim problem is real...maybe the Right and MAGA should prioritize it instead of spending serious political energy trying to nail 10s of transgender athletes to the wall. People in the Center will listen...but the Rights "sky is falling chicken littleism" about ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING makes the sincerity of their positions ring hollow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said: Imagine fighting in the crusades or the expulsion of moriscos just for some western Jew d!ckhead to want to hold the door open for them 800 years later How about Ireland? The most stubborn people on earth have fought and died to resist English control for centuries just to see woke insane liberal women and the cucks that worship them bring in a Stone Age group of unattached young men. One of the most unique groups of people on earth will disappear. The culture they fought so hard to maintain will be overrun soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 24 4 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Imagine fighting in the crusades or the expulsion of moriscos just for some western Jew d!ckhead to want to hold the door open for them 800 years later Imagine thinking the Crusades was a good thing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 Just now, zsasz said: If this Muslim problem is real...maybe the Right and MAGA should prioritize it instead of spending serious political energy trying to nail 10s of transgender athletes to the wall. People in the Center will listen...but the Rights "sky is falling chicken littleism" about ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING makes the sincerity of their positions ring hollow. Nah. The transgender thing is terrible at the polls. Easy votes. You guys keep fighting for them. You’re right after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: How about Ireland? The most stubborn people on earth have fought and died to resist English control for centuries just to see woke insane liberal women and the cucks that worship them bring in a Stone Age group of unattached young men. One of the most unique groups of people on earth will disappear. The culture they fought so hard to maintain will be overrun soon enough. Muslims represent 1.62% of the population of Ireland. Oh the horror. Overrun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Imagine thinking the Crusades was a good thing. Well they weren’t. No war is. But it was a reaction to Muslim aggression, no matter what some woke professor told you. Just ask yourself, how did Spain get so Muslim band then? Preaching the Koran? lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,472 Posted March 24 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: How about Ireland? The most stubborn people on earth have fought and died to resist English control for centuries just to see woke insane liberal women and the cucks that worship them bring in a Stone Age group of unattached young men. One of the most unique groups of people on earth will disappear. The culture they fought so hard to maintain will be overrun soon enough. It’s quite sad. But hey, at least no one called them racist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 361 Posted March 24 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Nah. The transgender thing is terrible at the polls. Easy votes. You guys keep fighting for them. You’re right after all. It's not just the transgender...it's THE UNIONS!!!!!!!, it's the SOCIALISTS!!!!!!, it's BIG OVERNMENT!!!!, the DEEP STATE!, THE EVILNESS OF ABORTIONS!!!!, SOLAR POWER!!!, CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!, HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!, CHINA!!!!!!, THE MUSLIMS!!!!!! etc. etc. etc. The sky has been falling on the Right for the past 40 years. You can see how us Centrists take what you're saying with a truckload of salt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,472 Posted March 24 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Imagine thinking the Crusades was a good thing. The crusades literally prevented Muslim suzerainty in all of Europe. You gotta have a real hate for white people if you think the crusades were bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 8 minutes ago, zsasz said: It's not just the transgender...it's THE UNIONS!!!!!!!, it's the SOCIALISTS!!!!!!, it's BIG OVERNMENT!!!!, the DEEP STATE!, THE EVILNESS OF ABORTIONS!!!!, SOLAR POWER!!!, CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!, HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!, CHINA!!!!!!, THE MUSLIMS!!!!!! etc. etc. etc. The sky has been falling on the Right for the past 40 years. You can see how us Centrists take what you're saying with a truckload of salt. Democracy is at stake because Trump is Hitler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,582 Posted March 24 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Imagine thinking the Crusades was a good thing. It saved western civilization 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,582 Posted March 24 Imagine being a blowhard and totally ignorant like tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 24 I wonder why Tim thinks the Jewish people fled Israel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 361 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Democracy is at stake because Trump is Hitler. Obviously not a winning strategy in 2024. Be a shame if the R's lose their one chance to combat Invasive Islam* because "EVERYTHING!!!! is evil." * If, in fact it is a serious issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites