Election Fraud in Wisconsin

[RLLD 4,188]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Lashing out at me won’t change the fact that only Trump files dozens of frivolous lawsuits and kept crying about muh fraud for years, even after winning re-election.

Thats about the standard of class I’d expect from the preferred candidate of a hypocritical, lying POS like yourself.  

Not lashing out, pointing out.  I see it as important to show people what you are, lest they read your words and think there is anything useful to be found.

So you cried about election denial, and I clarified that you are just an immature provacatuer with no actual value, merit or honestly.  Other should be aware. 

[Sean Mooney 1,964]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Once again, Crawford was backed by none other than SOROS himself.  So it appears Soros' money won this time instead of Musks.

You lefties really need to either admit you're okay with billionaires or your not okay with them.  There is no in-between.  Which is it?

I'm not a lefty and I'm not okay with any billionaires. But I will freely mock this because there were people who thought the Musk millions would win this one. 

I'd be all for them putting back into place campaign contribution limits. One of the worst things that happened was repealing that years ago. We aren't far off from millionaires and billionaires just openly buying elections left and right. I'm not good with that whichever way to arrow points. 

[Sean Mooney 1,964]

5 minutes ago, MDC said:

Lashing out at me won’t change the fact that only Trump files dozens of frivolous lawsuits and kept crying about muh fraud for years, even after winning re-election.

Thats about the standard of class I’d expect from the preferred candidate of a hypocritical, lying POS like yourself.  

Make sure to find out what FOX News pundit RLLD is parroting today. That will help you decide how to approach the discussion. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000]

4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Don't you live in Wisconsin? Maybe you should read up on how the laws work before posting.  It was already a law, and now it's enshrined in the Wisconsin constitution.  

 

 

Yep, I do.  My information was incomplete.  Thanks for the update. 

[Mike Honcho 5,250]

36 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 

Once again another fallacy(False equivalence) from RLLD, he responds to MDC's statement that GOP say Fraud when "any MAGA" loses(that's multiple) with his only one example that occurred 7 years ago.  

[Mike Honcho 5,250]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yep, I do.  My information was incomplete.  Thanks for the update. 

Now more importantly, what do you think of trading up for Tetairoa McMillanm, Arizona WR?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not a lefty and I'm not okay with any billionaires. But I will freely mock this because there were people who thought the Musk millions would win this one. 

I'd be all for them putting back into place campaign contribution limits. One of the worst things that happened was repealing that years ago. We aren't far off from millionaires and billionaires just openly buying elections left and right. I'm not good with that whichever way to arrow points. 

Who is the "people" you're talking about?  Because I did no such thing.

[Sean Mooney 1,964]

Just now, Mike Honcho said:

Once again another fallacy(False equivalence) from RLLD, he responds to MDC's statement that GOP say Fraud when "any MAGA" loses(that's multiple) with his only one example that occurred 7 years ago.  

Oh man...you look out- he is going to write one hundred words telling you why he is on the up and up and fair and you are some shallow minded idiot that isn't seeing their path out but he will show you by repeating what Judge Pirro said on FOX News

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

Now more importantly, what do you think of trading up for Tetairoa McMillanm, Arizona WR?

I have no idea who that is. 

[Sean Mooney 1,964]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Who is the "people" you're talking about?  Because I did no such thing.

I didn't accuse you. We've interacted enough where you know I will outright call you out on something if I think you did it. 

I'm talking the usual suspects here on the board. And I'm also talking to the larger group of people out there in the Interwebs who thought it would happen. 

[Sean Mooney 1,964]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I have no idea who that is. 

The best X-Receiver in the draft. Might go top 10....Be surprised if he gets past 15 or 16

[Hardcore troubadour 15,207]

38 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Reports of people lying because Musk's money couldn't get a judge the win in Wisconsin. 

MAGA Mooks on Fantasy Football Message Board buy the lies because they are mindless sycophants. 

News at 11. 

Ignorant partisan makes no mention of the Soros money.

[Mike Honcho 5,250]

8 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I have no idea who that is. 

IMO - I think he's the only WR that truly deserves a first round grade. Trading up coule be costly, I see him going anyway from 10 to 20 in most mocks, basically a 1 & 2 to get to 10-15, or a 1 and 3 to get to 16-20.  I think he's a AJ Green/Jamar Chase difference maker. I rarely advocate trading up, but in this case, I think he's the difference maker that would take the offense to the next level.

From recent Athletic Mock

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18. Seattle Seahawks: Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Arizona

As much as Seattle needs O-line help, I don’t see it drafting Bama’s Tyler Booker or North Dakota State’s Grey Zabel here. The 6-4, 219-pound McMillan, with his freakish ball skills, is too gifted not to take and package with Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Cooper Kupp.

“He’s a dude,” one Big 12 head coach said. “They weren’t any good around him, but he’s such a difference-maker. He has elite ball skills. He knows how to use his body. I was super impressed with him. His game translates because most NFL catches are contested catches.”

In 2024, McMillan had 84 catches for 1,319 yards and eight touchdowns despite defenses knowing he was Arizona’s first, second and third option on every pass play. Scouts and coaches aren’t sure how fast he is — he’s probably 4.6-ish in the 40, and his vertical is in the 34- or 35-inch range — but he has uncanny timing from his volleyball background. His old coach at Arizona, Jedd Fisch, spent a long time as an NFL assistant and told me McMillan is “the best athlete I’ve ever seen,” in part because of his remarkable hand-eye coordination.

“Baller,” a Big 12 secondary coach said. “On film, I saw some laziness when he wasn’t getting the ball. But he has the best skills I’ve seen in years. He’s unbelievable. I don’t worry about his speed. He’ll be able to make those catches on third-and-6 when you really need it with a corner right on him.”

“I think he has competitive speed and competitive vertical ability,” a Big 12 DC said. “Those ’50-50 balls’ aren’t 50-50 balls with him. They’re more 90-10 with him.”

“The thing with him is he did not come off the field,” a Big 12 defensive coordinator said. “You watch the film, and you think, ‘This kid is lazy.’ I think he was just trying to get a breather. He has as good of hands as you will ever see — he catches everything, away from the body, up in the air. He has such good body control. Not a blazer. But I think he does a good job of finding a way to separate. I can’t compare him hands-wise to anyone.”

 

 

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The best X-Receiver in the draft. Might go top 10....Be surprised if he gets past 15 or 16

I want the Packers to jump ahead of Dallas-that's the team I think is a big lock to take him. 

Anyway-back to the election fraud conversation.  

 

[Mike Honcho 5,250]

7 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Oh man...you look out- he is going to write one hundred words telling you why he is on the up and up and fair and you are some shallow minded idiot that isn't seeing their path out but he will show you by repeating what Judge Pirro said on FOX News

I know. But more than someone having a different opinion than me, or just being incorrect, I get more peeved by logical fallacies(RLLD's bread and butter).  I just can't let them slide. 

[MDC 7,254]

13 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Not lashing out, pointing out.  I see it as important to show people what you are, lest they read your words and think there is anything useful to be found.

So you cried about election denial, and I clarified that you are just an immature provacatuer with no actual value, merit or honestly.  Other should be aware. 

All you add to any thread is your hack partisan take and hypocrisy. That, and lots of five dollar words and ellipses.

I … surmise … that you’re a horse’s ass.  

 

[RLLD 4,188]

10 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Once again another fallacy(False equivalence) from RLLD, he responds to MDC's statement that GOP say Fraud when "any MAGA" loses(that's multiple) with his only one example that occurred 7 years ago.  

Not a false analogy, and shame on you for trying to pretend that.   Unless you and he b!tched about it what all those folks did the same thing, you are also a focking hypocrit. So if its so wrong, complain when ever it happens, and stop justifying it like that.

[Sean Mooney 1,964]

5 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I know. But more than someone having a different opinion than me, or just being incorrect, I get more peeved by logical fallacies(RLLD's bread and butter).  I just can't let them slide. 

100% his bread and butter. 

The best though was the other day where he was just espousing what Gutfield was saying on FOX News the night before and pushing it as his opinion. So he can't even make up his own logical fallacies, he has to use other people's

[RLLD 4,188]

6 minutes ago, MDC said:

All you add to any thread is your hack partisan take and hypocrisy. That, and lots of five dollar words and ellipses.

I … surmise … that you’re a horse’s ass.  

 

You posted your standard bullsh!it, I posted in a manner that highlighted it, now your pVssy hurta mr pillow pants?

[twcsux 4]

11 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

 That was just a referendum. You actually think the liberal Governor and liberal supreme Court in Wisconsin are actually going to allow voter ID Even though the voters overwhelmingly voted for it? 

Not a chance in hell.

Your bulb not very bright

[MDC 7,254]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You posted your standard bullsh!it, I posted in a manner that highlighted it, now your pVssy hurta mr pillow pants?

Pointing out that MAGAs immediately cry fraid when they don’t win is my “standard bullsh!t”. And you highlighted that with a link to Stacy Abrams. Only problem is 1) I never voted for her and 2) she didn’t filed dozens of lawsuits and keep crying about min fraud for the better part of a decade.

Otherwise spot on as usual Professor.

[Sean Mooney 1,964]

6 minutes ago, MDC said:

Pointing out that MAGAs immediately cry fraid when they don’t win is my “standard bullsh!t”. And you highlighted that with a link to Stacy Abrams. Only problem is 1) I never voted for her and 2) she didn’t filed dozens of lawsuits and keep crying about min fraud for the better part of a decade.

Otherwise spot on as usual Professor.

 

She also didn't cry about an election she did win because it wasn't big enough...

[Hardcore troubadour 15,207]

New rule going forward, only the money Musk pumps into a campaign is wrong. Soros and the other oligarchs are righteous in their contributions. Carry on 

[MDC 7,254]

What could possibly be different about Musk? Other than the fact that the POTUS tasked him with auditing the government that pays his companies billions in contracts?

Guess we’re comparing apples, oranges, coconuts and cinderblocks today.  

[HotRod 70]

This "race" was called very early by msdnc.

We've seen this before and it was proven to be rigged.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000]

13 minutes ago, HotRod said:

This "race" was called very early by msdnc.

We've seen this before and it was proven to be rigged.

Decision desk also called it early. 

[Grace Under Pressure 90]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

MAGA Mooks on Fantasy Football Message Board buy the lies because they are mindless sycophants. 

This should just be pinned in every thread. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000]

23 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

This should just be pinned in every thread. 

Says the liberal mooks that buy all the lies because they are mindless sycophants. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,207]

Democrats out spend republicans 6-1.  MUSK!

[jbycho 753]

1 hour ago, twcsux said:

Your bulb not very bright

Ok Rusty. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000]

53 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Democrats out spend republicans 6-1.  MUSK!

But all their money came from regular people just donating like $1 a piece! 

[Fnord 2,164]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ignorant partisan makes no mention of the Soros money.

Soros spent $2 million, given directly to the WI democratic party. His PAC did not give to Crawford's campaign.

Musk donated $3 mil to the WI GOP and his PAC gave at least another $17 mil. These numbers don't include his "giveaways" to voters (which are almost certainly illegal).

How about we all agree that outside money be completely removed from politics? And also that states should not follow Wisconsin's example and open their state elections up to unlimited spending? Those seem like good ideas to me. How about you, Tuck cuck?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000]

11 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Soros spent $2 million, given directly to the WI democratic party. His PAC did not give to Crawford's campaign.

Musk donated $3 mil to the WI GOP and his PAC gave at least another $17 mil. These numbers don't include his "giveaways" to voters (which are almost certainly illegal).

How about we all agree that outside money be completely removed from politics? And also that states should not follow Wisconsin's example and open their state elections up to unlimited spending? Those seem like good ideas to me. How about you, Tuck cuck?

Correct but also incorrect.  

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2025/04/01/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-results-brad-schimel-susan-crawford/82417975007/

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Soros contributed $2 million and Pritzker $1.5 million to the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, which funneled the cash to Crawford's campaign.

Soros and Pritzker told the Democrat Party EXACTLY where to send that money and they complied.  It was a smoke screen and a redirect.  It's as if they gave it to her directly anyways.

And  I agree that we should try to keep money and billionaires out of it, but when the left talks about it, all they talk about is "the other side's" money and billionaires.  Never their own.  So, respectfully, all of these claims by the left about "money in politics" fall on deaf ears because in reality all they are trying to do is prevent one side from doing that.

[Sean Mooney 1,964]

9 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Soros spent $2 million, given directly to the WI democratic party. His PAC did not give to Crawford's campaign.

Musk donated $3 mil to the WI GOP and his PAC gave at least another $17 mil. These numbers don't include his "giveaways" to voters (which are almost certainly illegal).

How about we all agree that outside money be completely removed from politics? And also that states should not follow Wisconsin's example and open their state elections up to unlimited spending? Those seem like good ideas to me. How about you, Tuck cuck?

I said the same thing...notably none of the MAGA mooks jumped in to agree. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,207]

8 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Soros spent $2 million, given directly to the WI democratic party. His PAC did not give to Crawford's campaign.

Musk donated $3 mil to the WI GOP and his PAC gave at least another $17 mil. These numbers don't include his "giveaways" to voters (which are almost certainly illegal).

How about we all agree that outside money be completely removed from politics? And also that states should not follow Wisconsin's example and open their state elections up to unlimited spending? Those seem like good ideas to me. How about you, Tuck cuck?

You ignorant jerkoff. I’ve been saying that for years. As matter of fact, wiling to bet I’m one of the few that has mentioned citizens united in the last ten years in this cess pool. 

[SaintsInDome2006 440]

Pretty sure the McCain-Feingold law prohibited foreign donations (ie like Soros) and it limited total contributions from any one person or entity and it ensured public reporting in a myriad of ways.

The USSC's Republican appointed majority struck it down in Citizens United and later struck down pay-to-play laws like in McDonnell. People talk about Soros and Musk etc etc etc. I agree a 1000X over. I just don't get why people who are against such things constantly vote for people who support exactly that sort of Soros-type system.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

I said the same thing...notably none of the MAGA mooks jumped in to agree. 

And yet, the poster who posted LITERALLY above your post did exactly that. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,207]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Pretty sure the McCain-Feingold law prohibited foreign donations (ie like Soros) and it limited total contributions from any one person or entity and it ensured public reporting in a myriad of ways.

The USSC's Republican appointed majority struck it down in Citizens United and later struck down pay-to-play laws like in McDonnell. People talk about Soros and Musk etc etc etc. I agree a 1000X over. I just don't get why people who are against such things constantly vote for people who support exactly that sort of Soros-type system.

Soros is a US citizen.  Keep up. 

[SaintsInDome2006 440]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Soros is a US citizen.  Keep up. 

Citizens United also applied to US contributions.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,207]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Citizens United also applied to US contributions.

Then why did you bring up Soros being a foreigner? 

[Engorgeous George 2,265]

I find it interesting that in spite of all the fears after Citizens United in Wisconsin, at least, the most money does not buy an election.  Now true that there was a significant amount of liberal money pumped in from outside as well as the Musk money from outside, but in the end Wisconsinites did what they do.

 

I find it interesting that 6 of the 7 Wisconsin Supreme Court Justices are women.  A trend coming for some time given women started outnumbering men in law schools in the 1980's, but such a dramatic example surprises me nonetheless.

 

I am concerned that the new Justice came out and declared her election a win for democracy and commented that had her opponent won it would have been a defeat for democracy.  She is not democracy.  Fraankly her attitude scares me.  Will she rule by the law or by personal politics?

 

I see the Cjhief Justice, a conservative, is done in 2027.  I know the family of the only male Justice.