Kilmar Abrego Garcia Thread - Garcia may be deported to Eswatini

[avoiding injuries 1,627]

So this guy claims every country we send him to he’ll be tortured. So Homeland Security makes up a country and he says he’ll be tortured there too. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,201]

Just now, avoiding injuries said:

So this guy claims every country we send him to he’ll be tortured. So Homeland Security makes up a country and he says he’ll be tortured there too. 

Liberals want him to stay here!  

[avoiding injuries 1,627]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

Liberals want him to stay here!  

It’s very bizarre the hills they choose to die on. 
 

Liberals are defending Phillies Karen now too. 

[Ron_Artest 1,784]

12 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Well duh, he's an ILLEGAL ALIEN  

Why is any of this hard for you to understand? 

I thought he was a wife beater human trafficker gang banger who should be held accountable for his crimes?

[Ron_Artest 1,784]

5 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

It’s very bizarre the hills they choose to die on. 
 

Liberals are defending Phillies Karen now too. 

Who?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,633]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I thought he was a wife beater human trafficker gang banger who should be held accountable for his crimes?

You don’t think he was trafficking ? 

[Ron_Artest 1,784]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You don’t think he was trafficking ? 

I was waiting for the evidence at trial but since we're not even bothering to go to trial I would say probably not

[Hardcore troubadour 15,633]

14 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I was waiting for the evidence at trial but since we're not even bothering to go to trial I would say probably not

You don’t think he was trafficking when the Maryland dad got pulled over in Tennessee coming back from Texas with all those guys in his vehicle? 

[TimHauck 3,047]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You don’t think he was trafficking ? 

The government doesn’t think so either 

[Voltaire 5,380]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The government doesn’t think so either 

Eight people with no luggage two states from his "home". You think he's fooling anyone? Every sentient human knows exactly what he's doing here.

It boggles the mind that anyone actually fails this Rorschach test.

[TimHauck 3,047]

7 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Eight people with no luggage two states from his "home". You think he's fooling anyone? Every sentient human knows exactly what he's doing here.

It boggles the mind that anyone actually fails this Rorschach test.

He was charged with smuggling, not trafficking.  The judge made sure to point out that there’s a significant difference between the two

[Hardcore troubadour 15,633]

Just now, TimHauck said:

They think he was smuggling, not trafficking

Smuggling what? 

[seafoam1 3,236]

14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Smuggling what? 

People. 

[Ron_Artest 1,784]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You don’t think he was trafficking when the Maryland dad got pulled over in Tennessee coming back from Texas with all those guys in his vehicle? 

No, and neither did the cops that pulled him over.

[Voltaire 5,380]

16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

He was charged with smuggling, not trafficking.  The judge made sure to point out that there’s a significant difference between the two

Who cares?

One ends with a plane ticket home while the other ends with a plane ticket home. WE DO NOT WANT PEOPLE DOING EITHER IN THE COUNTRY, especially when they're illegal themselves.

The only thing that makes Eswatini Dad special is that he doesn't want to go home because he fears MS13's rival gangs will kill him, which is why he goes to Eswatini instead. 

 

[squistion 2,348]

20 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

He was charged with smuggling, not trafficking.  The judge made sure to point out that there’s a significant difference between the two

Don't try to confuse them with the facts.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,633]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

No, and neither did the cops that pulled him over.

So I see you didn’t watch the video. The cop clearly says they are trafficking. It was reported to the feds as well. They didn’t pick it up. You’re amazing.  

[Voltaire 5,380]

12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

No, and neither did the cops that pulled him over.

These cops aren't completely brainwashed leftoid sicofants like you Tim and squistion are. I have been trying so hard to be nice lately but you guys are are so...

Anyway...

They know exactly what is going on and when they see this video, anyone who watches it can see for themselves the truth of the matter and figure out who is lying to them.

[The Real timschochet 7,064]

Personally I have no problem with Abrego Garcia being deported so long as that’s what the courts decide. My problem with this case, from the beginning, was that the Trump administration chose to go around the courts and take action against him without due process. To answer @avoiding injuries, due process is the hill I choose to die on, NOT the guilt or innocences of Abrego Garcia. 

Whether or not he s deported, I think he should sue our government for illegally sending him to El Salvador where he was tortured. 

[squistion 2,348]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Personally I have no problem with Abrego Garcia being deported so long as that’s what the courts decide. My problem with this case, from the beginning, was that the Trump administration chose to go around the courts and take action against him without due process. To answer @avoiding injuries, due process is the hill I choose to die on, NOT the guilt or innocences of Abrego Garcia. 

Whether or not he s deported, I think he should sue our government for illegally sending him to El Salvador where he was tortured. 

It is has pointed out numerous times since this thread began that this is not about Abrego Garcia, the person, it is about the guarantee of due process under the Constitution. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,270]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Personally I have no problem with Abrego Garcia being deported so long as that’s what the courts decide. My problem with this case, from the beginning, was that the Trump administration chose to go around the courts and take action against him without due process. To answer @avoiding injuries, due process is the hill I choose to die on, NOT the guilt or innocences of Abrego Garcia. 

Whether or not he s deported, I think he should sue our government for illegally sending him to El Salvador where he was tortured. 

Every illegal immigrant deserves a multi-million dollar, years long defense paid for by taxpayers, amiright?

[Ron_Artest 1,784]

16 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

These cops aren't completely brainwashed leftoid sicofants like you Tim and squistion are. I have been trying so hard to be nice lately but you guys are are so...

Anyway...

They know exactly what is going on and when they see this video, anyone who watches it can see for themselves the truth of the matter and figure out who is lying to them.

Why wasn't he arrested?

[seafoam1 3,236]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

It is has pointed out numerous times since this thread began that this is not about Abrego Garcia, the person, it is about the guarantee of due process under the Constitution. 

Screw off. They are illegals. 

The only due process should be, are they illegal or not. If illegal, get rid of them immediately. 

[The Real timschochet 7,064]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Every illegal immigrant deserves a multi-million dollar, years long defense paid for by taxpayers, amiright?

No. But every person forcibly detained by the government deserves their day in court. Do you agree with this principle or not? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,270]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

No. But every person forcibly detained by the government deserves their day in court. Do you agree with this principle or not? 

Every US Citizen, yes.   Illegal immigrants deserve no such consideration.  You're in this country ILLEGALLY - you don't get the same protections as a US Citizen.  Case closed.

[seafoam1 3,236]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No. But every person forcibly detained by the government deserves their day in court. Do you agree with this principle or not? 

Illegal means illegal. No court ruling is needed.  

Simply remove them. 

[The Real timschochet 7,064]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

 

The only due process should be, are they illegal or not. I

So even you would agree that they should be allowed to appear before a court to determine whether or not they have the right to be here legally? 

[The Real timschochet 7,064]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Every US Citizen, yes.   Illegal immigrants deserve no such consideration.  You're in this country ILLEGALLY - you don't get the same protections as a US Citizen.  Case closed.

First off that’s not what the law says. But even if did, how are we to determine if somebody has the legal right to be here? Should they be allowed to argue it before a court of law or do we just leave up to ICE to determine it? And if it’s the latter, what’s to keep ICE from deciding you’re not a legal citizen and deporting you without due process? 

[seafoam1 3,236]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

So even you would agree that they should be allowed to appear before a court to determine whether or not they have the right to be here legally? 

No. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,201]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No. But every person forcibly detained by the government deserves their day in court. Do you agree with this principle or not? 

No. Not if they're here illegally. 

They don't have rights 

[seafoam1 3,236]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

No. Not if they're here illegally. 

They don't have rights 

Tim likes to call them "undocumented Americans" to try to cover up that they are illegals. 

[The Real timschochet 7,064]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

No. Not if they're here illegally. 

They don't have rights 

Well that’s three of you now who believe that the government can decide who belongs here and who doesn’t and needn’t prove anything before a court of law. This sort of thinking is how we move towards a dictatorship. Congrats. 

[The Real timschochet 7,064]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Tim likes to call them "undocumented Americans" to try to cover up that they are illegals. 

The day you’re arrested and deported you can scream that you’re an American citizen and have papers to prove it. Nobody will listen: 

[seafoam1 3,236]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

The day you’re arrested and deported you can scream that you’re an American citizen and have papers to prove it. Nobody will listen: 

Ok. 

I know you fear monger for a living, but that only scares liberals. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,201]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The day you’re arrested and deported you can scream that you’re an American citizen and have papers to prove it. Nobody will listen: 

You've been watching too much MSNBC 

[seafoam1 3,236]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You've been watching too much MSNBC 

It's funny that he says he's gonna be fine and he's living well, but we all should be scared of being arrested, deported, going broke, and many other things that he is safe from having to experience.

[jonnyutah 380]

25 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No. But every person forcibly detained by the government deserves their day in court. Do you agree with this principle or not? 

He had his day in court. Over and over. This isnt about some democratic stand for due process. Nobody actually believes you should be able to come here illegally and then just keep making up baloney about being afraid. 

You guys are frauds. This case has exposed you. 

 

[TimHauck 3,047]

34 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Why wasn't he arrested?

BIDEN!!!

[Maximum Overkill 2,201]

37 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Why wasn't he arrested?

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

 

[Strike 5,773]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Personally I have no problem with Abrego Garcia being deported so long as that’s what the courts decide. My problem with this case, from the beginning, was that the Trump administration chose to go around the courts and take action against him without due process. To answer @avoiding injuries, due process is the hill I choose to die on, NOT the guilt or innocences of Abrego Garcia. 

Whether or not he s deported, I think he should sue our government for illegally sending him to El Salvador where he was tortured. 

Liar.  He has a valid order of deportation RIGHT NOW.  The courts have ALREADY decided.