Kilmar Abrego Garcia Thread - Garcia may be deported to Liberia

[Voltaire 5,453]

11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Because trump broke the law. Some of us still respect the rule of law.  I wish you did.

Trump abides by all the laws. Even the fake ones, that don't actually exist, but that lower court partisan hack judges fabricate wholly from imaginary laws and materials pulled out of their asses and pretend exist. Eswatini Man himself, being brought back from El Salvador, and still not in Eswatini, is actually physical proof of Trump abiding by court orders.

If Border Czar Kamala, Alejandro Mayorkas, and/or the person responsible for Biden's autopen had respected the rule of law, none of this would have been necessary.

[Ron_Artest 2,135]

24 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Trump abides by all the laws. Even the fake ones, that don't actually exist, but that lower court partisan hack judges fabricate wholly from imaginary laws and materials pulled out of their asses and pretend exist. Eswatini Man himself, being brought back from El Salvador, and still not in Eswatini, is actually physical proof of Trump abiding by court orders.

If Border Czar Kamala, Alejandro Mayorkas, and/or the person responsible for Biden's autopen had respected the rule of law, none of this would have been necessary.

You can't honestly believe Trump follows the law right?  I mean at least be honest and say you don't agree with the law or you think he has executive privilege over the law.  Don't lie

[TimHauck 3,282]

34 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The dude has MS 13 tattoos on his knuckles. Not the letters/numbers  M - S - 1  and 3, which were added to the photo of his hand to make the point, but the marijuana leaf, smilie face, cross, and skull under the letters

Plus he was pulled over two states from home with an SUV full of eight migrants with no luggage. Plus the domestic abuse charges. Plus the soliciting child porn.

This guy is a flaming bag of sh*t. Why you guys focus on him rather than any one of the far, far better sob stories, like the one of cancer kid US citizen with two deported parents is beyond me.

Trump thought it literally said the letters MS 13.   And weirdly no one has seemed to be able to find someone else with a similar tattoo.   Skull = 3!!!! Lol

He was never charged with domestic abuse and the child porn might be made up.

He’s probably not a great guy, but the admin has made definitive statements about him that they’re not even attempting to prove (such as calling him a human trafficker, for example).    And they also let an illegal that is an actual convicted human trafficker on the streets simply to testify against Abrego Garcia for a lesser charge than human trafficking, yet most MAGA folk don’t seem to care about that, even though POS’s like Strike have shown their true colors by being okay with being sent to a terrorist prison simply for being in the country illegally.

Yes, Trump ultimately abided by the Supreme Court’s wishes, but only after the public as a whole was decidedly against the admin’s claims that they couldn’t get him back. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,384]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

He’s probably not a great gu

Tim, who cares? It's one less criminal that you have to worry about. Save your tears for someone who deserves them

 

[Voltaire 5,453]

54 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You can't honestly believe Trump follows the law right?  I mean at least be honest and say you don't agree with the law or you think he has executive privilege over the law.  Don't lie

Well there's a lot of partisan smoke going around in the circles where you get your news. He does gets sued constantly and reflexively on pretty much everything with some bullsh*t explanation, but that's most always based on activist lawyers and lower court judges making sh*t up and pretending its real. Upon closer examination, time and again, he's proven right on the law way more than he is wrong.

So he gets accused of this ... then .... oopsie...  he was right all along and the people claiming he broke the law were just fantasizing and found to be full of sh*t.

Exacerbating that feeling is that frequently, when he doesn't win a ruling, he often follows the ruling to the least possible technical interpretation he can plausibly come up with. but then, since most of those rulings are not based on the actual law but rather on the imagination of partisan Biden appointees, they get overturned on appeal. Until then though, he does follow them and in instances where he loses the appeal too, he grudgingly accepts it.

Now, this applies in 100% of the cases as far as I know. If it doesn't, tell me where I'm wrong.

He does things. he gets sued in sued in New York City of San Francisco where the litigants know that some asswipe Communist lower court judge with a law degree from Columbia and an more often than not with a name resembling Jumanji Falafel Momofekktard, who had been appointed by Biden, will preside over the case and make a ruling against him. At this point, people like you say he broke the law. Then Trump complies but meanwhile, he appeals. Then he wins. Then people like you still say he broke the law.

 

[Ron_Artest 2,135]

Sorry Voltaire but you're wrong.

As far as where I get my Trump legal analysis, 2 main sources.  George Conway and Anthony scaramucci.  Both Republicans that have worked for Trump, or in George's case his wife Kelly Anne.

Some laws he broke include his tariffs, his crypto scam, cancelling of congressional approved funding, forbidding law firms from federal property, actions against universities and deploying the national guard.

It's been the most lawless administration since Nixon.

[Strike 5,973]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-now-plans-deport-abrego-garcia-liberia-oct-126844898

[TimHauck 3,282]

29 minutes ago, Strike said:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-now-plans-deport-abrego-garcia-liberia-oct-126844898

So he’s agreed to go to Costa Rica, and they’re still trying to send him somewhere else?  Thanks for wasting more of our tax dollars, government!

[Gepetto 1,445]

I don't care.

[seafoam1 3,393]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

So he’s agreed to go to Costa Rica, and they’re still trying to send him somewhere else?  Thanks for wasting more of our tax dollars, government!

Could have just gotten rid of him in the first place. This shlt is your fault. Dumbass libtards. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,524]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

So he’s agreed to go to Costa Rica, and they’re still trying to send him somewhere else?  Thanks for wasting more of our tax dollars, government!

you have no problem with illegals wasting our tax dollars, you only have problem when deporting illegals is wasting our tax dollars

 

[squistion 2,473]

9 hours ago, TimHauck said:

So he’s agreed to go to Costa Rica, and they’re still trying to send him somewhere else?  Thanks for wasting more of our tax dollars, government!

Exactly. How many millions have they spent trying to deport this guy whose only crime was entering this country illegally.

 

[seafoam1 3,393]

How are the liberals so stupid that they can't see they are the ones costing the money trying to keep this criminal here? 

Put him in a raft and point him towards Cuba. How much does that cost?

And what's with this "his only crime is being here illegally"? First off, that's bad enough in and of itself. Secondly, he's a violent garbage human. This all adds up to capital punishment. 

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,384]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

only crime was entering this country illegally

Ask his Wife about that 

[jerryskids 7,050]

14 hours ago, TimHauck said:

So he’s agreed to go to Costa Rica, and they’re still trying to send him somewhere else?  Thanks for wasting more of our tax dollars, government!

Costa Rica?  I'm surprised he didn't agree to Fiji or French Polynesia.  Maybe the Maldives or the Virgin Islands.   

[TimHauck 3,282]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Costa Rica?  I'm surprised he didn't agree to Fiji or French Polynesia.  Maybe the Maldives or the Virgin Islands.   

Or maybe El Salvador?  I hear it might be customary for prisoners to get served margaritas there!

[TimHauck 3,282]

13 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

you have no problem with illegals wasting our tax dollars, you only have problem when deporting illegals is wasting our tax dollars

 

I’m fine with deporting illegals, but I think we are diverting resources away from going after the worst of the worst first, and I don’t think we need armies of dudes in masks and unmarked vehicles to get the ones that aren’t the worst of the worst.

[jerryskids 7,050]

15 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Or maybe El Salvador?  I hear it might be customary for prisoners to get served margaritas there!

Impressive job of both moving the goal posts and showing your lack of basic reading comprehension.   

[TimHauck 3,282]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Impressive job of both moving the goal posts and showing your lack of basic reading comprehension.   

I was making a joke about how

1) Bukele wants us to think that El Salvador is a tropical paradise, which was your joke about Fiji and Maldives

2) You actually think it’s possible Abrego Garcia was served a margarita (and yes, you did say that)

[jerryskids 7,050]

17 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I was making a joke about how

1) Bukele wants us to think that El Salvador is a tropical paradise, which was your joke about Fiji and Maldives

2) You actually think it’s possible Abrego Garcia was served a margarita (and yes, you did say that)

Thanks, I didn't know Bukele said that about El Sal.

On #2, you don't understand what I said and I'm not explaining it again.  I'll just leave it at:  I said nothing remotely similar to it's customary to serve margaritas to prisoners.  Carry on.

[TimHauck 3,282]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

On #2, you don't understand what I said and I'm not explaining it again.  I'll just leave it at:  I said nothing remotely similar to it's customary to serve margaritas to prisoners.  Carry on.

Yes you did.  You said it might be customary for people to drink margaritas in general in El Salvador.   Which sure, I’d agree with.  But where you went full retard was extending to mean it’s possible they also serve them to imprisoned terrorists.

[The Real timschochet 7,362]

15 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

you have no problem with illegals wasting our tax dollars

 

Except they don’t. This is the lie you keep telling yourself. The truth is that undocumented immigrants are a net economic benefit: 

https://www.epi.org/publication/unauthorized-immigrants/

It’s the attempts at mass deportations that cost moneh not these people themselves. Stop repeating bullsh!t. 

[The Real timschochet 7,362]

So sick of all these lies about undocumented immigrants. 

[jonnyutah 526]

Anybody notice what is happening to rents in the southwest?

Lol. Surely has nothing to do with illegals leaving en masse. I mean google AI will be sure to tell you it doesnt. They also will tell you that immigrant truck drivers dont reduce wages, they only help with labor shortage.

[Strike 5,973]

6 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Anybody notice what is happening to rents in the southwest?

Lol. Surely has nothing to do with illegals leaving en masse. I mean google AI will be sure to tell you it doesnt. They also will tell you that immigrant truck drivers dont reduce wages, they only help with labor shortage.

No.  I don't live there.  What is happening?

[The Real timschochet 7,362]

26 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Anybody notice what is happening to rents in the southwest?

Lol. Surely has nothing to do with illegals leaving en masse. I mean google AI will be sure to tell you it doesnt. They also will tell you that immigrant truck drivers dont reduce wages, they only help with labor shortage.

They do help with labor shortages and bringing prices down. F off with your lies and your bigotry. So sick of this constant sh!t. 
 

[TimHauck 3,282]

27 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Anybody notice what is happening to rents in the southwest?

Lol. Surely has nothing to do with illegals leaving en masse. I mean google AI will be sure to tell you it doesnt. They also will tell you that immigrant truck drivers dont reduce wages, they only help with labor shortage.

Thanks for confirming any impact on rents/home prices would be localized to where there were the highest concentration of illegals (and that’s taking your word for it that they’re going down)

[The Real timschochet 7,362]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Thanks for confirming any impact on rents/home prices would be localized to where there were the highest concentration of illegals (and that’s taking your word for it that they’re going down)

We can’t take his word for it. 

[WhiteWonder 2,904]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

and I don’t think we need armies of dudes in masks and unmarked vehicles to get the ones that aren’t the worst of the worst.

i mean, they have spent a portion of their lives evading the law and staying as off the radar as possible in order to remain here illegally. Do you not believe in undercover cops for example? It's obviously going to be much harder to detain illegal immigrants with marked vehicles and i'm okay with them wearing masks considering the abuse they take from liberals. 

[TimHauck 3,282]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

We can’t take his word for it. 

I think rents are starting to come down nationally.  IMO that’s more due to the softening of the economy than anything, but looks like I correctly predicted that if home prices came down righties would try to proclaim it was because of mass deportations.

[The Real timschochet 7,362]

10 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

i mean, they have spent a portion of their lives evading the law and staying as off the radar as possible in order to remain here illegally. Do you not believe in undercover cops for example? It's obviously going to be much harder to detain illegal immigrants with marked vehicles and i'm okay with them wearing masks considering the abuse they take from liberals. 

There’s no abuse. They wear masks because they behave like thugs and they know it. 
 

If you want undocumented people to stop evading the law, give them legal status. Stop harassing innocent people and you won’t have these problems. START BEHAVING HUMANELY. 

[TimHauck 3,282]

19 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

i mean, they have spent a portion of their lives evading the law and staying as off the radar as possible in order to remain here illegally. Do you not believe in undercover cops for example? It's obviously going to be much harder to detain illegal immigrants with marked vehicles and i'm okay with them wearing masks considering the abuse they take from liberals. 

I think some are fine.  But I don’t think we need armies of them.  And if we are to believe they know who they are targeting, it seems like you could just have a guy or 2 wait outside their house or work with the super of their apartment building to get them while they’re home rather than making a scene in public.

[WhiteWonder 2,904]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

There’s no abuse. They wear masks because they behave like thugs and they know it. 
 

If you want undocumented people to stop evading the law, give them legal status. Stop harassing innocent people and you won’t have these problems. START BEHAVING HUMANELY. 

No illegal immigrant is innocent. That's just the facts. I'm not wishing any harm on them but they don't belong here and calling them innocent is a joke. If you wanted to live in another country full time, would you just move there and start working... or would you go through the proper channels to become a citizen of that country? exactly. And if you didn't go through the proper channels, would you feel wronged when they deport you?

you want to reward criminals by making them legal . ? 

as for ICE agents, they get heckled and verbally abused all the time. For doing their job. If I was an ICE officer I would certainly welcome the ability to wear a mask so some of these crazy liberals couldn't take it any further than they already do. 

[BrahmaBulls 911]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

So sick of all these lies about undocumented immigrants. 

Then stop telling them so you can protect cheap labor for your piece of sh!t company

[The Real timschochet 7,362]

1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said:

No illegal immigrant is innocent. That's just the facts. I'm not wishing any harm on them but they don't belong here and calling them innocent is a joke. If you wanted to live in another country full time, would you just move there and start working... or would you go through the proper channels to become a citizen of that country? exactly. And if you didn't go through the proper channels, would you feel wronged when they deport you?

you want to reward criminals by making them legal . ? 

as for ICE agents, they get heckled and verbally abused all the time. For doing their job. If I was an ICE officer I would certainly welcome the ability to wear a mask so some of these crazy liberals couldn't take it any further than they already do. 

For most people whom you call illegal there is no line, no proper or legal way to come here. These are desperate people trying to better their lives and those of their families. They are no more criminals than runaway slaves were prior to the Civil War. 
 

As for the ICE agents, these are bad guys. They constantly abuse people, break the law, and lie about it. I call them Gestapo because that’s what they are. It didn’t used to be that way but under Trump that’s well we have, 

 

Your views on this are completely distorted and the opposite of what is really happening at this time in our country. 

[TimHauck 3,282]

4 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

No illegal immigrant is innocent. That's just the facts. I'm not wishing any harm on them but they don't belong here and calling them innocent is a joke. If you wanted to live in another country full time, would you just move there and start working... or would you go through the proper channels to become a citizen of that country? exactly. And if you didn't go through the proper channels, would you feel wronged when they deport you?

you want to reward criminals by making them legal . ? 

as for ICE agents, they get heckled and verbally abused all the time. For doing their job. If I was an ICE officer I would certainly welcome the ability to wear a mask so some of these crazy liberals couldn't take it any further than they already do. 

Do you think crazy liberals deserve to get pepper sprayed for “verbally abusing” ICE agents?

[WhiteWonder 2,904]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I think some are fine.  But I don’t think we need armies of them.  And if we are to believe they know who they are targeting, it seems like you could just have a guy or 2 wait outside their house or work with the super of their apartment building to get them while they’re home rather than making a scene in public.

well the mask thing is about protecting their identity while they do a job and I don't think its unreasonable for them to not be harassed because the left doesn't agree with deporting illegal immigrants. There are delusional people like timcrotch who then take it to the max and I certainly wouldn't want them knowing who I am or being able to harass my family. 

As for how many there need to be, no idea. But it's definitely not as easy as just waiting with the super. They have whole networks and communities. One person sees a marked vehicle in the neighborhood and every illegal immigrant will know to stay clear for a bit. (yes I know exactly how this goes as I may have mentioned in other threads I have a friend dating an illegal Brazilian). 

[The Real timschochet 7,362]

3 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Then stop telling them so you can protect cheap labor for your piece of sh!t company

We all benefit from cheap labor. Stop pretending you don’t. And I haven’t lied once about this issue (or really any issue in this forum.) LOL you’re a liar for calling me a liar. 

[WhiteWonder 2,904]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

For most people whom you call illegal there is no line, no proper or legal way to come here. These are desperate people trying to better their lives and those of their families. They are no more criminals than runaway slaves were prior to the Civil War. 

you realize there are other countries they can go to illegally as well to escape their desperate situations, yes? how do those countries handle illegal immigration? Why should the US be the main destination? 

The woman my friend is dating, her daughter was also attempting to come here illegally. One of the pit stops is Italy (then Canada, then ultimately the USA while their temporary visa expires). She was not able to get to Canada. She went back to Brazil. Why didn't she stay in Italy? 

Sorry, the comparison to runaway slaves during the civil war is so dumb. Like monumentally dumb, even for you. These people are not slaves (unless you want to count the slave labor they provide to people like you ). The places they are running away from don't ultimately care or want them back. They don't become criminals until they reach their destination and stay past a certain time frame.

 

[WhiteWonder 2,904]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Do you think crazy liberals deserve to get pepper sprayed for “verbally abusing” ICE agents?

maybe, maybe not. Why are they verbally abusing ICE agents in the first place? 

Don't try to move the goal post rather than discuss the actual issue we were discussing. Of course i'd prefer ICE agents just let the crazy liberals waste their breath and not do anything in response but the convo was about them wearing masks and using unmarked vehicles.