Kilmar Abrego Garcia & Trump El Salvador deportations thread.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

5 minutes ago, squistion said:

I would imagine that it was probably because the economy was better and there were more job opportunities after the pandemic ended.

Why didn't Biden do more to stop them? The problem was obviously worse than it had ever been.

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3 hours ago, squistion said:

This should not surprise anyone.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1911813948912918658 (video clip at link)

Trump says he'd like to deport American citizens to a gulag in El Salvador: 

Good. 

[squistion 2,203]

https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1911814528611869129

BREAKING: This might be the most vile, lie-soaked, anti-American gaslighting yet:

– The Trump administration and El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele are refusing to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia—an innocent man illegally deported and locked in a foreign prison.

– Marco Rubio flat-out lies, claiming Abrego was here illegally, despite clear evidence to the contrary.

– Stephen Miller spins a unanimous 9-0 Supreme Court defeat as some kind of twisted “win.”

– And Trump? He lashes out at Kaitlan Collins, for the crime of asking why an American legal resident is rotting in a torture prison abroad.

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Squid gets his info from Brian Krassenstein and thinks its accurate. 

Now it makes sense. 

 

[Strike 5,553]

12 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1911814528611869129

BREAKING: This might be the most vile, lie-soaked, anti-American gaslighting yet:

– The Trump administration and El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele are refusing to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia—an innocent man illegally deported and locked in a foreign prison.

– Marco Rubio flat-out lies, claiming Abrego was here illegally, despite clear evidence to the contrary.

He was here illegally, pigeon focker.

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Bukele should just send his head back to appease the media

[Gepetto 1,368]

19 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1911814528611869129

BREAKING: This might be the most vile, lie-soaked, anti-American gaslighting yet:

– The Trump administration and El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele are refusing to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia—an innocent man illegally deported and locked in a foreign prison.

– Marco Rubio flat-out lies, claiming Abrego was here illegally, despite clear evidence to the contrary.

– Stephen Miller spins a unanimous 9-0 Supreme Court defeat as some kind of twisted “win.”

– And Trump? He lashes out at Kaitlan Collins, for the crime of asking why an American legal resident is rotting in a torture prison abroad.

What evidence? Where is it show that Abrego was here legally? He was an El Salvador citizen.

This? - Though Abrego Garcia illegally immigrated to the U.S. in 2011 at the age of 16, he had lived and worked in the country legally since 2019, when an immigration judge granted him "withholding of removal" status, a rare alternative to asylum, over the threat to his life from gang violence.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Steven Miller annihilates the media for a second time in one day. All of these fake ass reporters. None of them knew what a withholding order was, yet they are writing about it. All they had to do was a Google search on what they were writing about. These are the people our liberal friends follow

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1911864478091591961?s=19

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

16 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

   

Squid gets his info from Brian Krassenstein and thinks its accurate. 

Now it makes sense. 

 

squish found his golden source

[The Psychic Observer 498]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

Like you lefties doubling down on the lie that he was here legally?

 

In 2019, with his lawyer, Abrego Garcia fought allegations against him in deportation proceedings in court and applied for asylum. His request for asylum was denied, as one must submit an asylum application within a year of arriving in the U.S. However, the judge granted him "withholding of removal" status that would block his deportation to El Salvador due to the threat that gangs would pose to him, finding that "he was more likely than not to be harmed if he was returned to El Salvador." He was granted a work permit, and has lived and worked legally in Maryland since.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

6 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

What evidence? Where is it show that Abrego was here legally? He was an El Salvador citizen.

This? - Though Abrego Garcia illegally immigrated to the U.S. in 2011 at the age of 16, he had lived and worked in the country legally since 2019, when an immigration judge granted him "withholding of removal" status, a rare alternative to asylum, over the threat to his life from gang violence.

Which would only be a concern IF he was a gang member himself. Case. Closed.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

 

In 2019, with his lawyer, Abrego Garcia fought allegations against him in deportation proceedings in court and applied for asylum. His request for asylum was denied, as one must submit an asylum application within a year of arriving in the U.S. However, the judge granted him "withholding of removal" status that would block his deportation to El Salvador due to the threat that gangs would pose to him, finding that "he was more likely than not to be harmed if he was returned to El Salvador." He was granted a work permit, and has lived and worked legally in Maryland since.

He received that ruling because he was a gang member. Which an insane judge allowed a known gang banger to stay in the US. That's the issue you should be more concerned with. 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

8 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

What evidence? Where is it show that Abrego was here legally? He was an El Salvador citizen.

This? - Though Abrego Garcia illegally immigrated to the U.S. in 2011 at the age of 16, he had lived and worked in the country legally since 2019, when an immigration judge granted him "withholding of removal" status, a rare alternative to asylum, over the threat to his life from gang violence.

Yes, a judge said he can stay here legally.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

4 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Steven Miller annihilates the media for a second time in one day. All of these fake ass reporters. None of them knew what a withholding order was, yet they are writing about it. All they had to do was a Google search on what they were writing about. These are the people our liberal friends follow

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1911864478091591961?s=19

Stephan miller lies more than trump.  Sad that you believe anything he says

[The Psychic Observer 498]

2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

He received that ruling because he was a gang member. Which an insane judge allowed a known gang banger to stay in the US. That's the issue you should be more concerned with. 

No he didn't, more lies.

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34 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1911814528611869129

BREAKING: This might be the most vile, lie-soaked, anti-American gaslighting yet:

– The Trump administration and El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele are refusing to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia—an innocent man illegally deported and locked in a foreign prison.

– Marco Rubio flat-out lies, claiming Abrego was here illegally, despite clear evidence to the contrary.

– Stephen Miller spins a unanimous 9-0 Supreme Court defeat as some kind of twisted “win.”

– And Trump? He lashes out at Kaitlan Collins, for the crime of asking why an American legal resident is rotting in a torture prison abroad.

Oh noes

[Strike 5,553]

12 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

 

In 2019, with his lawyer, Abrego Garcia fought allegations against him in deportation proceedings in court and applied for asylum. His request for asylum was denied, as one must submit an asylum application within a year of arriving in the U.S. However, the judge granted him "withholding of removal" status that would block his deportation to El Salvador due to the threat that gangs would pose to him, finding that "he was more likely than not to be harmed if he was returned to El Salvador." He was granted a work permit, and has lived and worked legally in Maryland since.

Nope.  He had a final deportation order.  You lefties keep willfully ignoring that FACT.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

10 minutes ago, Strike said:

Nope.  He had a final deportation order.  You lefties keep willfully ignoring that FACT.

The reporter even confirmed he was here illegally. Case closed. Now they want the US to invade El Salvador to get the illegal back in the US.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

12 minutes ago, Strike said:

Nope.  He had a final deportation order.  You lefties keep willfully ignoring that FACT.

And a judge said he could legally stay in the US.  Why do you magas keep ignoring that?

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

And a judge said he could legally stay in the US.  Why do you magas keep ignoring that?

A leftist judge makes up his own rules to keep as many illegals on the streets. No surprise. 

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He illegally crossed our border to begin with, so he did commit a crime.  A judge did issue an order barring his removal due to the threat of gang violence against him.  Maybe being MS-13 would have something to do with that, then again maybe he isn't and it doesn't.  The Trump administration and the Solictor General feel that he is affiliated with MS-13.  Either way, an error leads to him getting deported to his country of origin where he is a citizen, El Salvador.  At this point he is in the custody of his home country and their leader is saying he isn't being sent back.  We have no treaty or right to demand him and I can't imagine a reason why the Trump administration would do anything to pressure them to do anything different.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

1 minute ago, Mark Davis said:

He illegally crossed our border to begin with, so he did commit a crime.  A judge did issue an order barring his removal due to the threat of gang violence against him.  Maybe being MS-13 would have something to do with that, then again maybe he isn't and it doesn't.  The Trump administration and the Solictor General feel that he is affiliated with MS-13.  Either way, an error leads to him getting deported to his country of origin where he is a citizen, El Salvador.  At this point he is in the custody of his home country and their leader is saying he isn't being sent back.  We have no treaty or right to demand him and I can't imagine a reason why the Trump administration would do anything to pressure them to do anything different.

He was sent to prison because of our presidents opinion, and we are paying El Salvador to keep him in prison.  If we wanted him back, he would be back.  Your excuses are weak.

[Strike 5,553]

2 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

He was sent to prison because of our presidents opinion, and we are paying El Salvador to keep him in prison.  If we wanted him back, he would be back.  Your excuses are weak.

We don't want him back. 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

We don't want him back. 

What is "we"?  His wife and kids want him back.  His friends want him back.  People who believe in the rule of law want him back.

[Mark Davis 398]

1 minute ago, The Psychic Observer said:

He was sent to prison because of our presidents opinion, and we are paying El Salvador to keep him in prison.  If we wanted him back, he would be back.  Your excuses are weak.

I don't want him back and I have no clue why anyone would want him back other than they want to make this about Trump.  But the fact is that he's their citizen and he's in their custody.  You may not like it, but you need to accept that we have no authority to get him back from them at this point any more so than we would have authority over a German or Chinese national.  You want the man you despise, Trump, to basically ask them or work out a deal to bring him back.  I don't think that is going to happen. 

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16 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

And a judge said he could legally stay in the US.  Why do you magas keep ignoring that?

You and all your dorky liberal friends should fly down there and break him out 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

1 minute ago, Mark Davis said:

I don't want him back and I have no clue why anyone would want him back other than they want to make this about Trump.  But the fact is that he's their citizen and he's in their custody.  You may not like it, but you need to accept that we have no authority to get him back from them at this point any more so than we would have authority over a German or Chinese national.  You want the man you despise, Trump, to basically ask them or work out a deal to bring him back.  I don't think that is going to happen. 

His wife and kids want him back.  He has a life here and didn't deserve to be sent to prison for the rest of his life.  He committed no crime.

I want him back because I believe in fairness, decency and the rule of law.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

5 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

What is "we"?  His wife and kids want him back.  His friends want him back.  People who believe in the rule of law want him back.

I'm not interested in the opinion of the friends and family of gang bangers.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

Just now, Frozenbeernuts said:

I'm not interested in the opinion of the friends and family of gang bangers.

Link to him being a gang banger?

[Maximum Overkill 1,997]

Fake News, he never said anything about citizens. 

[Mark Davis 398]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

His wife and kids want him back.  He has a life here and didn't deserve to be sent to prison for the rest of his life.  He committed no crime.

I want him back because I believe in fairness, decency and the rule of law.

You keep saying he committed no crime when illegally crossing our border in the very beginning was a crime.  He's a Salvadoran national.  He is in their custody.  He may not belong in that prison, I don't know.  But your argument should be with them.

On the second part, you can stop trying to convince me on the holier than thou stuff.  It's repetitive and tiring.  We get it, you think you're superior morally to those of us who disagree with you.  It's already been noted.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

2 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

You keep saying he committed no crime when illegally crossing our border in the very beginning was a crime.  He's a Salvadoran national.  He is in their custody.  He may not belong in that prison, I don't know.  But your argument should be with them.

On the second part, you can stop trying to convince me on the holier than thou stuff.  It's repetitive and tiring.  We get it, you think you're superior morally to those of us who disagree with you.  It's already been noted.

He was never charged with any crime in the US or El Salvador.  He was declared a legal resident of the US.  He was illegally removed from the US and therefore needs to be returned.

As far as being morally superior than you, I never said that.

I would hope that we could all agree that it's wrong to take a legal resident of the US and send them to a foreign prison with no due process, no charges and no trial.  If you don't agree with that then yes in question your morals 

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

He was never charged with any crime in the US or El Salvador.  He was declared a legal resident of the US.  He was illegally removed from the US and therefore needs to be returned.

As far as being morally superior than you, I never said that.

I would hope that we could all agree that it's wrong to take a legal resident of the US and send them to a foreign prison with no due process, no charges and no trial.  If you don't agree with that then yes in question your morals 

Calm down little guy it'll be ok.. go get your dairy free ice cream and sit down and watch an episode of friends or something lol

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

1 minute ago, The Psychic Observer said:

He was never charged with any crime in the US or El Salvador.  He was declared a legal resident of the US.  He was illegally removed from the US and therefore needs to be returned.

As far as being morally superior than you, I never said that.

I would hope that we could all agree that it's wrong to take a legal resident of the US and send them to a foreign prison with no due process, no charges and no trial.  If you don't agree with that then yes in question your morals 

His very first act entering the US was a crime.

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1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

His very first act entering the US was a crime.

I'm not sure how long you're willing to tell that f@cknard that the dude came into this country illegally despite him parroting that he didn't commit any crimes.  He's either grossly retarded or grossly retarded.  In any case, he's grossly retarded and you're wasting your time.

The Psychic Observer is neither psychic nor observant, that much is clear.

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11 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Fake News, he never said anything about citizens. 

Link

[The Psychic Observer 498]

2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

His very first act entering the US was a crime.

He was never charged, had no criminal record and was a legal resident.

[Mark Davis 398]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

He was never charged with any crime in the US or El Salvador.  He was declared a legal resident of the US.  He was illegally removed from the US and therefore needs to be returned.

As far as being morally superior than you, I never said that.

I would hope that we could all agree that it's wrong to take a legal resident of the US and send them to a foreign prison with no due process, no charges and no trial.  If you don't agree with that then yes in question your morals 

So he applied for a visa and received one before crossing?  Because if not, by definition he committed a crime.  If he did, then I'll stand corrected but I don't believe that to be the case.  

On the last part, Tim and I had this discussion a couple days ago.  I have no problem with what happened.  I don't see a reason that the government and Solicitor General singled this guy out over everyone else.  Why is there a massive conspiracy to railroad this one man?  I feel it's likely he is affiliated with MS-13 and if he were a citizen I'd be more concerned about his due process.  He's not.  I get the argument to the other side, but we disagree. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,997]

It's beautiful 

El Salvador's president says he won't return mistakenly deported man to U.S.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

It's beautiful 

El Salvador's president says he won't return mistakenly deported man to U.S.

This is all that matters. Trump won yet again.