Kilmar Abrego Garcia & Trump El Salvador deportations thread.

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You said "they lie about everything," then listed "he beat his wife" in your example list.  That's a fact.

Was he charged with beating his wife?  No.

No one knows what happened besides him, her and maybe the kids.

[BrahmaBulls 764]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Was he charged with beating his wife?  No.

No one knows what happened besides him, her and maybe the kids.

So the believe all women a few years ago was all BS for you?  Just clarifying.

[TimHauck 2,876]

44 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

he should sue the maryland gov, cause if he was beaten he looked perfect during that meeting and likely pissed off the other inmates after that. they probably dont take kindly to some other gang banger getting special treatment and sipping margaritas

 

The alleged torture occurred before that meeting, and I believe he had already been moved to a different prison by then

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

2 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

So the believe all women a few years ago was all BS for you?  Just clarifying.

If she filed charges against him I would believe her.  Nice gotcha attempt.

[BrahmaBulls 764]

9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

If she filed charges against him I would believe her.  Nice gotcha attempt.

So women never do that because they are scared of getting beaten again?  She just made the whole thing up on the police report and then decided oh my bad?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

If she filed charges against him I would believe her.  Nice gotcha attempt.

Bullshittt. The girl raped by the tranny at school in Virginia filed charges and you didn’t believe her. You said she was “in on it” and said they had hooked up before so him raping her wasn’t true. Garbage human.  

[RLLD 4,230]

22 hours ago, TimHauck said:

No, it wasn’t.  I’d laugh at how badly you’ve been brainwashed, but it’s sad, really.

Of course you would.  I accept that you cannot see your sycophantic loyalty to a group of people who we know have repeatedly lied about really important things.  You are their useful idiot.

[RLLD 4,230]

23 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

You posted an article where the author added it.  The ACTUAL source is the court document, which is here: https://wearecasa.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia-filing.pdf

The line about the rival gang is not in the court document, it was not argued in court.

You got played son.

The question is are you man enough to admit it or are you gonna continue to throw slurs....

You think "i" got played when you are here supporting a criminal, a piece of trash human.....at the direction of your ideological masters.....and you think......wow....just, wow....

[RLLD 4,230]

23 hours ago, squistion said:

Proposed meaning they mentioned that he was being threatened by a gang? If so, that in itself doesn't mean he is gang member (which he has repeatedly denied).

 

A rival gang, not just a gang, but one that threatened his gang.....of course they are always a threat to each other....it was just the legal abuse to manipulate the judge.

[squistion 2,202]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You think "i" got played when you are here supporting a criminal, a piece of trash human.....at the direction of your ideological masters.....and you think......wow....just, wow....

A criminal whose only crime which is undisputed is his being undocumented. 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Was he charged with beating his wife?  No.

No one knows what happened besides him, her and maybe the kids.

No one knows to an absolute certainty so folks can remain ensconced in their rhetorical point even while they know to a clear and convincing standard that he did so and she failed to cooperate so that she can continue his financial support of the family or so that he would not retaliate against her, which are both incredibly common occurances in domestic matters.  You win the more or less meaningless rhetorical point.  Those going back and forth on this with you might ask whether you belive it more likely than not that he did, and if you are truthful and familiar with the dynamics of domestic violence you would condede it is more likely than not, though it remains legally unproven.  In the end this argument is more or less irrelevant.  Is he here lawfully?  Has he taken advantgage of an overly liberal and poorly staffed asylum system?  Is he a danger to the community, those are the questions.  Give him his due process I say.  Also, should he have still been under the jurisdictional authority of the United States and the United States prematurely ceded that jurisdiction causing him harm he is entitled to damages, even if he turns out to be a scum bag.

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, squistion said:

A criminal whose only crime which is undisputed is his being undocumented. 

Which is all I need, the rest of his crimes can now be added....since Democrats decided to play politics with him.....now they can own all his misdeeds for the next round of elections.

[TimHauck 2,876]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Earlier, you said:

“OF COURSE THAT HAPPENED!  HE JUST REMEMBERED IT NOW”

 

 

So based on that statement, my question to you is, are you pretty sure he wasn’t tortured in CECOT?  A simple yes or no would suffice.

Thanks in advance.

Bump for @EternalShinyAndChrome

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

2 hours ago, squistion said:

A criminal whose only crime which is undisputed is his being undocumented. 

I know very few criminals who do not dispute their guilt, even after conviction and all appeals.  You have a rhetorical point, but not a strong one.  Say simply that you belief he remains entitled to due process if he is to be deported for criminal behavior.  Know that if he is to be deported on a resolved asylum claim that the process which he is due is administrative due process, a somewhat lesser standard of due process and one which would allow some reliable hearsay.  How reliable years old allegations are which were never adjudicated is an open question.  Were I the Immigration Magistrate I would approach those with a jaundiced eye 

[TimHauck 2,876]

43 minutes ago, RLLD said:

A rival gang, not just a gang, but one that threatened his gang.....of course they are always a threat to each other....it was just the legal abuse to manipulate the judge.

You’re an idiot that doesn’t know how to read.

Don’t you think that if his lawyers actually said that, that every conservative talking head, not to mention Stephen Miller, Pam Bondi, Karoline Leavitt would be shouting that from the rooftops?

Think, for once.

[squistion 2,202]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You’re an idiot that doesn’t know how to read.

Don’t you think that if his lawyers actually said that, that every conservative talking head, not to mention Stephen Miller, Pam Bondi, Karoline Leavitt would be shouting that from the rooftops?

Think, for once.

I don't think he is an idiot and he knows how to read, but he is being intentionally obtuse.

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

55 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Bullshittt. The girl raped by the tranny at school in Virginia field charges and you didn’t believe her. You said she was “in on it” and said they had hooked up before so him raping her wasn’t true. Garbage human.  

Oh here we go with the lies again. I speculated that we didn't know what happened but after we found out what happened, she was in fact raped.  And then you said my kids should be raped.  And you call me a garbage human.  What kind of a sick fock wishes kids get raped.

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

56 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You think "i" got played when you are here supporting a criminal, a piece of trash human.....at the direction of your ideological masters.....and you think......wow....just, wow....

Not a criminal, I don't know what kind of a human he is, but I'm defending the constitution.

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 hour ago, BrahmaBulls said:

So women never do that because they are scared of getting beaten again?  She just made the whole thing up on the police report and then decided oh my bad?

Why are you accusing him of saying she made the whole thing up @BrahmaBulls? He literally just said no one knows except her, him and maybe the kids.  You’re a troll.

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Why are you accusing him of saying she made the whole thing up @BrahmaBulls? He literally just said no one knows except her, him and maybe the kids.  You’re a troll.

I even said he probably did abuse her at some point which led to the restraining order, but again we don't know.

[TimHauck 2,876]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

I don't think he is an idiot and he knows how to read, but he is being intentionally obtuse.

No, I don’t think he knows how to read.  He’s refusing to read the actual court documents, and is even misinterpreting the comment from BBC (which he incorrectly thinks was said by the lawyers).

So he’s wrong in thinking the lawyers even said that, and he’s wrong in what the sentence even meant. Impressive.

[TimHauck 2,876]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No, I don’t think he knows how to read.  He’s refusing to read the actual court documents, and is even misinterpreting the comment from BBC (which he incorrectly thinks was said by the lawyers).

So he’s wrong in thinking the lawyers even said that, and he’s wrong in what the sentence even meant. Impressive.

Oh shoot, @jerryskids, I just realized I basically just said the same thing twice there. But I really wanted to make it super clear that @RLLD is stupid.

 

[squistion 2,202]

6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Not a criminal, I don't know what kind of a human he is, but I'm defending the constitution.

Neither do I and it is irrelevant.

What we have said since the start of this thread is that IT IS NOT ABOUT GARCIA THE PERSON it about is the larger constitutional issues involved in this case that could potentially impact everyone (look at the big picture, people). 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Oh here we go with the lies again. I speculated that we didn't know what happened but after we found out what happened, she was in fact raped.  And then you said my kids should be raped.  And you call me a garbage human.  What kind of a sick fock wishes kids get raped.

Nah. You said she was “in on it” , which was in relation to a set up you were claiming,  after charges were filed . Be a man for once and cop to what you said. Everyone saw it. 

[Strike 5,547]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nah. You said she was “in on it” , which was in relation to a set up you power claiming,  after charges were filed . Be a man for once and cop to what you said. Everyone saw it. 

Didn't he also mock the father for getting arrested for going off on the school board for trying to cover up the rape?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Just now, Strike said:

Didn't he also mock the father for getting arrested for going off on the school board for trying to cover up the rape?

Sure did. But he’s such a punk he can’t take responsibility for his regrettable behavior, like others have.  

[TimHauck 2,876]

2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

he should sue the maryland gov, cause if he was beaten he looked perfect during that meeting and likely pissed off the other inmates after that. they probably dont take kindly to some other gang banger getting special treatment and sipping margaritas

 

Also, I bet other prisoners are smart enough to know the margaritas were government propaganda.  Apparently many conservatives like you, including politicians, are not smart enough to know that.

[Strike 5,547]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Also, I bet other prisoners are smart enough to know the margaritas were government propaganda.  Apparently many conservatives like you, including politicians, are not smart enough to know that.

Government propaganda? 

[jerryskids 6,799]

27 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Oh shoot, @jerryskids, I just realized I basically just said the same thing twice there. But I really wanted to make it super clear that @RLLD is stupid.

 

Look at Timmy, feeling good about getting his gotcha after a week of being destroyed in the Israel thread.  Enjoy yourself, Tim!   

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nah. You said she was “in on it” , which was in relation to a set up you were claiming,  after charges were filed . Be a man for once and cop to what you said. Everyone saw it. 

I said "maybe" because we didn't know anything at the time.  You're a proven liar and a piece of sh1t and everyone here knows it.

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

19 minutes ago, Strike said:

Didn't he also mock the father for getting arrested for going off on the school board for trying to cover up the rape?

Another lie.  I mocked the father for having a tramp stamp.

[Strike 5,547]

Just now, jerryskids said:

Look at Timmy, feeling good about getting his gotcha after a week of being destroyed in the Israel thread.  Enjoy yourself, Tim!   

I don't know why you're laughing.  In the 12 seconds it took you to write the post above Israel Killed 17 journalists and 47 women and children trying to get to the aid station.

[TimHauck 2,876]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Government propaganda? 

Yes, dressing him up all nice and putting margaritas on the table while he met with Senator Van Hollen was government propaganda, did you not realize that?

[Strike 5,547]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Yes, dressing him up all nice and putting margaritas on the table while he met with Senator Van Hollen was government propaganda, did you not realize that?

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Yes, dressing him up all nice and putting margaritas on the table while he met with Senator Van Hollen was government propaganda, did you not realize that?

He's not smart enough to realize that.

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

You seriously disagree with that?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Also, I bet other prisoners are smart enough to know the margaritas were government propaganda.  Apparently many conservatives like you, including politicians, are not smart enough to know that.

No sh1t Sherlock. They know this gangbanger got special treatment. The margaritas was all brought to you by the pos Maryland gov 

[Strike 5,547]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You seriously disagree with that?

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

No sh1t Sherlock. They know this gangbanger got special treatment. The margaritas was all brought to you by the pos Maryland gov 

bro thinks the Rep from MD brought margaritas

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

You’re an idiot if you don’t know that was propaganda.  Why do you think Bukele made sure to point it out?