Trump wants to deport American Citizens to El Salvador

[Mark Davis 338]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Ok, that doesn’t answer my question though.  Are we paying for him to be imprisoned there?

I have no idea.  I don't know if there is a line item invoice that shows by prisoner what they are charging or if it's an overarching amount.

[The Psychic Observer 495]

1 minute ago, Mark Davis said:

I have no idea.  I don't know if there is a line item invoice that shows by prisoner what they are charging or if it's an overarching amount.

Let me help you here.  The answer is yes.  We are paying El Salvador $6M per year for the first batch of people sent to CECOT.

[Mark Davis 338]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

Let me help you here.  The answer is yes.  We are paying El Salvador $6M per year for the first batch of people sent to CECOT.

So is he individually adding to the cost?  If your answer is correct, his incremental cost is $0.  So we aren't paying for him specifically, but the lot as a whole.

[The Psychic Observer 495]

5 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

So is he individually adding to the cost?  If your answer is correct, his incremental cost is $0.  So we aren't paying for him specifically, but the lot as a whole.

He was in the lot, we're paying for him.  You're trying to hard to rationalize you're incorrect position

[Mark Davis 338]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

He was in the lot, we're paying for him.  You're trying to hard to rationalize you're incorrect position

No I'm genuinely asking, does the amount change whether he is there or not?  Your answer says no.  I don't know if you're right or not, but I'll take you at your word that you know.  We can have the debate, but let's be truthful from an economic cost to it.  Again, if we assume you are correct, yes he is in the lump sum, but adding or reducing him to the total doesn't change the amount.  So there's not an economic argument to his specific case in either direction.

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3 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

No I'm genuinely asking, does the amount change whether he is there or not?  Your answer says no.  I don't know if you're right or not, but I'll take you at your word that you know.  We can have the debate, but let's be truthful from an economic cost to it.  Again, if we assume you are correct, yes he is in the lump sum, but adding or reducing him to the total doesn't change the amount.  So there's not an economic argument to his specific case in either direction.

My answer does not say that.  In fact who do not know for sure but it's a fair assumption that each inmate has a cost.

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7 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

No I'm genuinely asking, does the amount change whether he is there or not?  Your answer says no.  I don't know if you're right or not, but I'll take you at your word that you know.  We can have the debate, but let's be truthful from an economic cost to it.  Again, if we assume you are correct, yes he is in the lump sum, but adding or reducing him to the total doesn't change the amount.  So there's not an economic argument to his specific case in either direction.

Yes I agree, if the amount doesn’t change whether he’s there or not then I wouldn’t really count that as paying for him.

That said, the fact that we’re paying them at all seems contradictory to the claim that “we can’t force them to send him back.”  I’m sure if we withheld some payments they’d probably send him back pretty quickly.

[The Psychic Observer 495]

Trump told Bekele that he needs to build 5 more prisons for all the citizens trump is gonna send there.  I'm sure taxpayers will pay for this as well 

[Mark Davis 338]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes I agree, if the amount doesn’t change whether he’s there or not then I wouldn’t really count that as paying for him.

That said, the fact that we’re paying them at all seems contradictory to the claim that “we can’t force them to send him back.”  I’m sure if we withheld some payments they’d probably send him back pretty quickly.

Thanks, that's a legit stance.  From the beginning I freely admit that the Trump administration could easily get him back if they wanted him.  It's both convenient for them and also factual that he's a Salvadoran national in Salvadoran custody.  There's no agreement I know of that requires them to send him to us, so Trump would have to ask and we all should realize he isn't going to do that.  I'm sure we disagree over whether they should do so, but at this stage barring another unexpected twist in the road to this story, Trump isn't going to ask.

 

[TimHauck 2,598]

3 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

Thanks, that's a legit stance.  From the beginning I freely admit that the Trump administration could easily get him back if they wanted him.  It's both convenient for them and also factual that he's a Salvadoran national in Salvadoran custody.  There's no agreement I know of that requires them to send him to us, so Trump would have to ask and we all should realize he isn't going to do that.  I'm sure we disagree over whether they should do so, but at this stage barring another unexpected twist in the road to this story, Trump isn't going to ask.

 

Anyone who disagrees that they should do so doesn’t believe in our constitution.

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Anyone who disagrees that they should do so doesn’t believe in our constitution.

I’m okay with doing some unconstitutional things if it means we get to deport the scum and bury the Democratic Party. 

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1 hour ago, avoiding injuries said:

Another 80/20 issue that liberals find themselves on the wrong side again. 

This is wrong: 

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/5230288-americans-migrants-due-process-survey/amp/

6 out of 10 Americans oppose deportation without due process, which is exactly what took place here. 

[The Real timschochet 6,389]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

I’m okay with doing some unconstitutional things if it means we get to deport the scum and bury the Democratic Party. 

Yes we know. This is in keeping with many of your other views. Do you also enjoy inflicting physical violence on those afraid to fight back? (Women, children, the old, the physically frail). If so, combined with your political views you would make an ideal Brownshirt. Perhaps you should contact Tom Homan; he’s looking to hire guys like you. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes we know. This is in keeping with many of your other views. Do you also enjoy inflicting physical violence on those afraid to fight back? (Women, children, the old, the physically frail). If so, combined with your political views you would make an ideal Brownshirt. Perhaps you should contact Tom Homan; he’s looking to hire guys like you. 

The guy that’s okay with woman getting the sh!t kicked out of them by men and children getting pumped full of hormones says what?

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2 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

The guy that’s okay with woman getting the sh!t kicked out of them by men and children getting pumped full of hormones says what?

First you’re wrong about my opinion on the first issue; you shouldn’t generalize. Second, you read what I wrote, sparky. You’d make a good Brownshirt or Blackshirt. Not an SS guy; they’re typically a little smarter (and a lot more evil.) 

[iam90sbaby 2,472]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

First you’re wrong about my opinion on the first issue; you shouldn’t generalize. Second, you read what I wrote, sparky. You’d make a good Brownshirt or Blackshirt. Not an SS guy; they’re typically a little smarter (and a lot more evil.) 

Thanks, you would’ve made a good yekke

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6 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Monthly border crossing. Look at the chart.

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/04/illegal-border-crossings-february-decline-trump

Your weak diversion has NOTHING to do with this particular case of an innocent man who was legally in our country and accidentally getting deported to a brutal prison in a country that refuses to give him back despite our Justice Department admitting its mistake. 

Stay on point. Fock your chart.

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1 hour ago, iam90sbaby said:

The guy that’s okay with woman getting the sh!t kicked out of them by men and children getting pumped full of hormones says what?

Another MAGAturd diversion attempt.

MAGAturds gish gallop when they can't hold their own on a particular topic.

SQUIRREL!

 

[Tebok 283]

1 hour ago, iam90sbaby said:

I’m okay with doing some unconstitutional things if it means we get to deport the scum and bury the Democratic Party. 

Wow.

 

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6 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Another MAGAturd diversion attempt.

MAGAturds gish gallop when they can't hold their own on a particular topic.

SQUIRREL!

 

Poor Rusty is hurting. 

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Love this feature.

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[The Real timschochet 6,389]

11 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Wow.

 

Lol you’re surprised by this? The dude is a racist, an anti-Semite, a fascist lover. 

[jbycho 579]

Just now, Tebok said:

Love this feature.

 

That's so cute Rusty. Just like old times. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Lol you’re surprised by this? The dude is a racist, an anti-Semite, a fascist lover. 

You are losing. And I love it. All of you libtards are freaking out and it's fun. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lol you’re surprised by this? The dude is a racist, an anti-Semite, a fascist lover. 

You'd think a MAGAturd would at least respect the Constitution, but this is Trump's American, full of radical goons like this clown who are willing to tear up our beloved Constitution.

Treason is what it is, but I support his First Amendment right to say stupid, hateful things.

 

[jbycho 579]

3 minutes ago, Tebok said:

You'd think a MAGAturd would at least respect the Constitution, but this is Trump's American, full of radical goons like this clown who are willing to tear up our beloved Constitution.

Treason is what it is, but I support his First Amendment right to say stupid, hateful things.

 

You are losing. And I love it. All of you libtards are freaking out and it's fun. 

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2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is wrong: 

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/5230288-americans-migrants-due-process-survey/amp/

6 out of 10 Americans oppose deportation without due process, which is exactly what took place here. 

I knew those numbers he cited had to be wrong, but didn't have time to look it up. I would have thought more than 6 out of 10 opposed deportation without due process (but perhaps they don't really understand the potential consequences, which might actually be upon them).

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It’s a wicked game that trump likes to bully around with, He things he’s god, he’s playing with peoples lives.   Shame on this government for wanting to bully Americans, instead of supporting Americans.   

[TimHauck 2,598]

6 hours ago, squistion said:

I knew those numbers he cited had to be wrong, but didn't have time to look it up. I would have thought more than 6 out of 10 opposed deportation without due process (but perhaps they don't really understand the potential consequences, which might actually be upon them).

Yeah if that’s accurate all that stat means is only about 25% of Republicans support it, since all Democrats and Independents likely would.  Weird coming from the people that loved to talk about slippery slopes…

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13 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

squish found his golden source

It explains so much.

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16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah if that’s accurate all that stat means is only about 25% of Republicans support it, since all Democrats and Independents likely would.  Weird coming from the people that loved to talk about slippery slopes…

They continue to support anything the man wants to do.  Blind loyalty to one man.

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9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is wrong: 

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/5230288-americans-migrants-due-process-survey/amp/

6 out of 10 Americans oppose deportation without due process, which is exactly what took place here. 

This gangbanger thug had due process. Also if you are here illegally as in not a citizen you don’t get due process.  You are illegal and the punishment is deportation. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

9 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Trump told Bekele that he needs to build 5 more prisons for all the citizens trump is gonna send there.  I'm sure taxpayers will pay for this as well 

Yep you can obviously tell he’s focking around. That’s why he says it twice and gets a good laugh 

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

8 hours ago, Tebok said:

MAGAturd

PEDOCRAT

[lickin_starfish 1,888]

They should send that piece of schit Karmelo Anthony to the El Salvador prison.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

The takeover is underway 

[TimHauck 2,598]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Also if you are here illegally as in not a citizen you don’t get due process.  

Wrong.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Wrong.

he got due process anyways he was on the deportation list, that means hes gone through the system. Turn off CNN ffs

hes a terrorist

he was labeled by multiple courts as MS13

and hes not a MARYLAND MAN hes a MS13 gang banger from El Salvador.  He got a free trip home

the whole admin admits  they were wrong was a scam you fell for as well

[The Psychic Observer 495]

17 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

he got due process anyways he was on the deportation list, that means hes gone through the system. Turn off CNN ffs

hes a terrorist

he was labeled by multiple courts as MS13

and hes not a MARYLAND MAN hes a MS13 gang banger from El Salvador.  He got a free trip home

the whole admin admits  they were wrong was a scam you fell for as well

Yes he had due process and a judge ruled that he can stay here legally.  He was illegally sent to prison anyway.

He's not a terrorist.  He has no criminal record here or in El Salvador.

It was alleged that he was MS-13 for 1) wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and 2) an informant in NY where he never lived.  It was never determined that he was in MS-13 and he denies those allegations.

He was a legal resident of Maryland, married to a US citizen with American kids.  No charges, no record, and he was sent to prison.

The govt admits it was wrong to deport him, the SC court ruled it was wrong and he should be returned, but Trump has covered that up and defied the court and you fell for it.

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6 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Yes he had due process and a judge ruled that he can stay here legally.  He was illegally sent to prison anyway.

He's not a terrorist.  He has no criminal record here or in El Salvador.

It was alleged that he was MS-13 for 1) wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and 2) an informant in NY where he never lived.  It was never determined that he was in MS-13 and he denies those allegations.

He was a legal resident of Maryland, married to a US citizen with American kids.  No charges, no record, and he was sent to prison.

The govt admits it was wrong to deport him, the SC court ruled it was wrong and he should be returned, but Trump has covered that up and defied the court and you fell for it.

You lose because that dude will be gone in no time. Send your secret lover some sweet goodbyes while you can.