Shedeur Sanders is being disrespected.

[CaptainObvious1 322]

6 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Who was saying he wasn't a first round guy?

The worst I saw for a majority of pundits was a late first round pick. 

A lot of scouts said he didn't have first round talent.  NFL teams don't draft from Kiper's list.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

So he had a million in cash in a Louis Vuitton suitcase at his draft party. He also performed his rap single.  Uh. 

[peenie 1,896]

I follow Deion on YouTube. Deion and his sons seem like really good people. I haven’t heard anything negative coming from the teammates of Sheduer. I haven’t heard him mistreat women. He isn’t a bad student. He hasn’t committed any crimes. He’s not on drugs. I have never heard any of them being racist towards whites or ever using race as a crutch, actually I’ve only seen and heard the opposite. I think you all really are jealous and are making up stories about their family in order to excuse what the NFL did to Shedeur. All the draft did was confirm to me that the NFL is nothing more than the WWE. The prank call revealed the ugliness in the top brass in the NFL. The fact that so many of you are gleeful that this happened to a kid who has excelled when many children of the famous are simply struggling with their sexual identity or addiction, for you all to find fault in him because of his personality, (that you really don’t know) speaks volumes of your own insecurities. No GM or coach had the power to draft him? It’s a fixed rigged game. 

[avoiding injuries 1,505]

1 hour ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

A lot of scouts said he didn't have first round talent.  NFL teams don't draft from Kiper's list.

Scouts also weren’t in his interviews. It’s the most important position on the field and standards need to be higher. He unfortunately didn’t meet them. Or quite frankly, come anywhere close. 

[peenie 1,896]

This is the Deion I’m familiar with….

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGbR0PgtWJt/?igsh=OGJsa21lcHIzcG8y
 
I wonder who was mad at Manning Sr when he managed his son’s careers? 

 

[Strike 5,182]

6 hours ago, peenie said:

Honestly, I don't even care that much about this subject. Go on with your schadenfreude to make yourselves feel better. 

"I don't care about this subject but I'm going to post incessantly about it because RACISM!!!!!!!"

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

3 minutes ago, peenie said:

This is the Deion I’m familiar with….

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGbR0PgtWJt/?igsh=OGJsa21lcHIzcG8y
 
I wonder who was mad at Manning Sr when he managed his son’s careers? 

 

The two sons that went first in the draft? Why would anyone be mad with that ? 

[seafoam1 2,797]

4 minutes ago, peenie said:

This is the Deion I’m familiar with….

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGbR0PgtWJt/?igsh=OGJsa21lcHIzcG8y
 
I wonder who was mad at Manning Sr when he managed his son’s careers? 

 

I hate the Mannings almost as much as I hate liberals. Sorry your boy shedeur sucks and got drafted accordingly. 

 

[MDC 7,112]

2 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

 

On SiriusXM Blitz (NFL channel).  Bill Lekas and Kirk Morrison.  I also believe Pat Kirwan said the same thing, not exactly 100% on hin.

They said Sanders was a 4th round talent? I’m not a college football fan but I read a lot about the draft. The worst eval I saw on Sanders was that he was a late 1st / early 2nd talent who’d go in the first because it was a weak QB draft. I’m kind of surprised to hear anyone predicted him to go even later.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

They said Sanders was a 4th round talent? I’m not a college football fan but I read a lot about the draft. The worst eval I saw on Sanders was that he was a late 1st / early 2nd talent who’d go in the first because it was a weak QB draft. I’m kind of surprised to hear anyone predicted him to go even later.

He would of easily been a 4th round pick in last years QB class. And that's if he was lucky. 

I thought he was a second round QB, he obviously slipped because he and his Father are both a-holes. 

[jbycho 579]

9 minutes ago, MDC said:

They said Sanders was a 4th round talent? I’m not a college football fan but I read a lot about the draft. The worst eval I saw on Sanders was that he was a late 1st / early 2nd talent who’d go in the first because it was a weak QB draft. I’m kind of surprised to hear anyone predicted him to go even later.

I'm sure scouts and GMs around the league were clogging up your phone line trying to share their evaluations of the guy with you. 

[MDC 7,112]

5 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

He would of easily been a 4th round pick in last years QB class. And that's if he was lucky. 

I thought he was a second round QB, he obviously slipped because he and his Father are both a-holes. 

That’s my point. All this talk about how Sanders was really a 4-5 rounder in THIS draft is Monday morning QBing. Absent character concerns he’d have been a 1st round lock.

[Gepetto 1,285]

This is the same league that in the 2022 NFL draft, they took Kenny Pickett in the first round, and Brock Purdy with the last pick in the last round. 

They don't know what they're doing unless the talent at QB is off the charts like last years' top QB picks.

[jbycho 579]

28 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

This is the same league that in the 2022 NFL draft, they took Kenny Pickett in the first round, and Brock Purdy with the last pick in the last round. 

They don't know what they're doing unless the talent at QB is off the charts like last years' top QB picks.

They know what they are doing, it's simply just an inexact science is all. There is never a guarantee in the draft. It's simply a game of percentages. 

[Gepetto 1,285]

24 minutes ago, jbycho said:

They know what they are doing, it's simply just an inexact science is all. There is never a guarantee in the draft. It's simply a game of percentages. 

I guess I should have said their accuracy is not 100% and they could be wrong about S. Sanders projected capabilities at the NFL level.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

8 hours ago, MDC said:

That’s my point. All this talk about how Sanders was really a 4-5 rounder in THIS draft is Monday morning QBing. Absent character concerns he’d have been a 1st round lock.

I agree, but even without the character issues he was only going to be a second rounder in this draft. He was over hyped by ESPN and the media, especially Mel Kiper. He was never a first round talent. 

[Sean Mooney 1,933]

12 hours ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

A lot of scouts said he didn't have first round talent.  NFL teams don't draft from Kiper's list.

I don't particularly care about Kiper's list. I'm saying the general consensus from pundits and scouts was a late first round pick at worst.

Who are the "lot of scouts" you were seeing? Not saying you are wrong, just saying I'm interested in seeing who it was. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

There wasn’t one team picking 22-32 that needed a QB. Late first round my ass. 

[MDC 7,112]

The Foosball Giants drafted a QB at 25.   

[Sean Mooney 1,933]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

The Foosball Giants drafted a QB at 25.   

 

It's completely unheard of for people to trade back up into the first round after making an early pick.

I mean the Giants certainly didn't do it this year. And it certainly didn't happen in 2024....or 2023.....or 2022....or 2021.....or pretty much every year. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

13 minutes ago, MDC said:

The Foosball Giants drafted a QB at 25.   

Yeah, they traded. No one knew that was going to happen when his draft slot was being predicted, which is the subject here. No bigger try hard than you.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

It's completely unheard of for people to trade back up into the first round after making an early pick.

I mean the Giants certainly didn't do it this year. And it certainly didn't happen in 2024....or 2023.....or 2022....or 2021.....or pretty much every year. 

Oh yeah, people knew this before the draft? And predicted it? No. Nice try. 

[Sean Mooney 1,933]

"Nobody in the draft needed a QB from 22-32"

"People can trade up"

"Who predicts that"

"Many pundits do actually.."

"(ANGRY SCREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)"

[MDC 7,112]

Saints trade up to pick Sanders at 24 in mock draft.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

lol. Predicting trades. Funny.  

[Sean Mooney 1,933]

12 minutes ago, MDC said:

Saints trade up to pick Sanders at 24 in mock draft.

 

Yes but no one predicted this....

Ian Rapoport did not report the Giants were considering Sanders when they traded up.

CBS Sports definitely didn't predict the Giants would trade up to 32 to get Sanders. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2025-nfl-mock-draft-shedeur-sanders-taken-late-in-round-1-after-qb-needy-team-trades-up-to-get-him/amp/

 I mean mock drafts from experts REGULARLY predict trades and trade ups and downs and everything...

Never happened though...

 

[CaptainObvious1 322]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I don't particularly care about Kiper's list. I'm saying the general consensus from pundits and scouts was a late first round pick at worst.

Who are the "lot of scouts" you were seeing? Not saying you are wrong, just saying I'm interested in seeing who it was. 

Read ESPN or the Athletic articles leading up the draft.  Pundits mean nothing.  You or I can be a pundit and put draft evaluations out.  

[MDC 7,112]

7 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Yes but no one predicted this....

Ian Rapoport did not report the Giants were considering Sanders when they traded up.

CBS Sports definitely didn't predict the Giants would trade up to 32 to get Sanders. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2025-nfl-mock-draft-shedeur-sanders-taken-late-in-round-1-after-qb-needy-team-trades-up-to-get-him/amp/

 I mean mock drafts from experts REGULARLY predict trades and trade ups and downs and everything...

Never happened though...

 

Tardcore lost this thread.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

19 minutes ago, MDC said:

Saints trade up to pick Sanders at 24 in mock draft.

 

Great prediction. Spot on. lol. 

[Sean Mooney 1,933]

5 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

Read ESPN or the Athletic articles leading up the draft.  Pundits mean nothing.  You or I can be a pundit and put draft evaluations out.  

I did read them and many others. Again- the majority had him as a later first round pick at worst. Who specifically did you see that was saying otherwise? I want to know who I missed so I can add them to my rotation of reading at draft time next year.

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Tardcore lost this thread.  

 

THEN 

NOW

FOREVER. 

 

I don't even interact with him anymore and he still wants the smoke and loses. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Yes but no one predicted this....

Ian Rapoport did not report the Giants were considering Sanders when they traded up.

CBS Sports definitely didn't predict the Giants would trade up to 32 to get Sanders. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2025-nfl-mock-draft-shedeur-sanders-taken-late-in-round-1-after-qb-needy-team-trades-up-to-get-him/amp/

 I mean mock drafts from experts REGULARLY predict trades and trade ups and downs and everything...

Never happened though...

 

Damn, with all of the  click bait predictions out there you would think Mooney and MDC could find the one that was right concerning Sanders.  Using wrong predictions to bolster your side. What a unique concept. lol. 

[Ron_Artest 1,028]

44 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah, they traded. No one knew that was going to happen when his draft slot was being predicted, which is the subject here. No bigger try hard than you.  

Every mock during draft week had them trading back in.

[Ron_Artest 1,028]

DJ's mock draft had the Giants trading up for Dart. https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2025-nfl-mock-draft-4-0

Never happened though.  No one predicted this.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

10 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Every mock during draft week had them trading back in.

For Sanders? That’s the subject dummy.  Mock drafts with trades. Holy shittt. Like kids clicking on Mario Kart. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

DJ's mock draft had the Giants trading up for Dart. https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2025-nfl-mock-draft-4-0

Never happened though.  No one predicted this.

Yeah. Predicting trades for clicks and you found one. Rain dances eventually work too.

[Ron_Artest 1,028]

NBC Final Mock Draft has the Giants trading back into 1st for Shedeur. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/news/2025-nfl-mock-draft-jaguars-pull-first-stunner-giants-trade-up-for-qb-in-connor-rogers-final-prediction

Tardcore says no one could have predicted this.  He claims to be a fan of the team

[Sean Mooney 1,933]

The HT posting cycle:

1.) Get called on something 

2.) Deny it

3.) Get shown evidence that disproves him

4.) Accuse person of being triggered and insult them and/or their manhood  we are here

5.) Post some other nonsense trying to pretend like he is a better person than another poster

6.) Return to step 1

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

NBC Final Mock Draft has the Giants trading back into 1st for Shedeur. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/news/2025-nfl-mock-draft-jaguars-pull-first-stunner-giants-trade-up-for-qb-in-connor-rogers-final-prediction

Tardcore says no one could have predicted this.  He claims to be a fan of the team

I said no one could have? It’s click bait moron. There are thousands of predictions.  Duh, Giants need a QB. I’ll predict them to trade up. Real scientific.  I guess he had inside scoop. Oh wait , it was wrong. Can you find some more wrong predictions, like 99 pct of them? 

[CaptainObvious1 322]

18 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I did read them and many others. Again- the majority had him as a later first round pick at worst. Who specifically did you see that was saying otherwise? I want to know who I missed so I can add them to my rotation of reading at draft time next year.

 

THEN 

NOW

FOREVER. 

 

I don't even interact with him anymore and he still wants the smoke and loses. 

NFL scouts don't put out rankings.  Stop quoting pundits they know nothing.  Go find articles where national writers will quote an actual real scout. 

Why do you have hard on for what Kiper, McShay, or someone at CBS has for a ranking?  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

I’ll say it again. Teams picking 22-32 had no need for a qb. Sanders going in the late first was not going to happen.