Shedeur Sanders is being disrespected.

[Ron_Artest 1,051]

CBS final mock had Giants trading up for a QB: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2025-nfl-mock-draft-bears-take-ashton-jeanty-after-trading-into-top-5-giants-move-back-into-round-1-for-qb/

[Ron_Artest 1,051]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah, they traded. No one knew that was going to happen when his draft slot was being predicted, which is the subject here. No bigger try hard than you.  

[Mike Honcho 5,096]

21 hours ago, MDC said:

Which pundits were saying he was no better than a 4th rounder? 

 

Quote

 

Perception vs. reality: Where did it go wrong?

Teams weren't just spooked by attitude concerns. Several coaches and scouts - speaking anonymously to outlets like The Athletic - suggested that Sanders' film raised questions about his decision-making, pocket presence, and readiness for NFL speed. One NFC quarterbacks coach even slapped a "sixth-round" grade on him.

By the end of Day 2, teams who needed quarterbacks had either found their guy or decided Sanders wasn't worth the risk. The Browns, needing depth and a potential project at the position, scooped him up with little pressure to start him early. For Sanders, this might actually be the best-case scenario: time to develop without immediate expectations crashing down.

Analysts like ESPN's Merril Hoge weren't shy about their skepticism, warning that rushing Sanders onto the field could "set a franchise back two or three years." But others, like Jeff Howe of The Athletic, pointed out that while the pre-draft noise was loud, the real issue was his inconsistent tape - not necessarily the rumors about his personality.

 

 

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CBS Sports

"I think the best way to sum him up is, he's a really good college quarterback: His accuracy is good, his processing is good," Hoge said. "And when I say good, I use a scale from 1 to 10, so good is around a five. So if you're a five in college, okay? Those [accuracy and process] are the two most important aspects of transitioning to the National Football League and then you build from there. Anticipation, pocket awareness and then we start building, but those two things, if you're a five, you're not a first-rounder. You're not a franchise guy."

If NFL teams felt the same way as Hoge, it's easy to see why Sanders ended up sliding. 

Although Sanders led all FBS quarterbacks with a 74% completion rate, Hoge said that number is distorted because Sanders threw so many screens. 

"Nobody threw more bubble screens than Shedeur Sanders when it mattered," Hoge said. 

Hoge also didn't like the fact that Sanders seemed to get worse as the 2024 season went on at Colorado, which included a 36-14 loss to BYU in the Alamo Bowl where Sanders had arguably his worst game of the season. 

"He got worse as the year went on and then went in... the only guy I've seen have a worse bowl game than he did in my 30 years of doing his is Mitch Trubisky," Hoge said. 

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

Using click bait predictions to make your point. Sad.  

[Ron_Artest 1,051]

No one could have predicted it

Oh those were just "click bait" predictions they don't count

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

3 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

NFL scouts don't put out rankings.  Stop quoting pundits they know nothing.  Go find articles where national writers will quote an actual real scout. 

Why do you have hard on for what Kiper, McShay, or someone at CBS has for a ranking?  

I do read scouts too. Many of the main scouting websites- Draft Network, Walter Football, NFL Draft Buzz, The Beast handbook- had him as a late 1st round pick at worst.

I haven't read Kiper in years. I rarely read McShay.

Again- it's a simple question- who did you see that was specifically saying Sanders wasn't potentially a late first round pick? Even scouts grade out guys and you can tell from the scores where they see them.

[CaptainObvious1 324]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I do read scouts too. Many of the main scouting websites- Draft Network, Walter Football, NFL Draft Buzz, The Beast handbook- had him as a late 1st round pick at worst.

I haven't read Kiper in years. I rarely read McShay.

Again- it's a simple question- who did you see that was specifically saying Sanders wasn't potentially a late first round pick? Even scouts grade out guys and you can tell from the scores where they see them.

Those aren't scouting websites.   Those are people like you and I that watch film and think they know what they're doing.   Go find some quotes from real NFL scouts and most say Sanders was not a first round talent.

I'm not searching the internet to find you a quote.  Go read national writers that quote real NFL scouts and executives.  Start with Athletic and ESPN.   Don't be lazy.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

10 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

 

 

The best argument you can make against Sanders is that he was awful in that bowl game. Even still there a lot of people argued about whether it was the lack of having an offensive line or not. A huge knock on Deion as a recruiter is he focuses on the flashy skill positions and ignores the trenches. 

[Alias Detective 1,389]

On 4/29/2025 at 9:37 AM, MDC said:

Sanders was a consensus 1st round player in every mock and big board I saw. Obviously no NFL teams saw it that way, probably for character concerns. 

Thanks for telling us what happened last Thursday though. 

Your guy.  Bwahahahah

Mel Kiper Jr.'s accuracy in predicting the NFL draft is often criticized, with various reports suggesting his accuracy is around 25% for the first round. Some sources even suggest that in his initial mock drafts, his accuracy has been as low as 17 out of 256 correctly predicted picks over a period of years. While Kiper's drafts are a staple of the NFL pre-draft buzz, his predictions have not consistently been highly accurate. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

1 minute ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

Those aren't scouting websites.   Those are people like you and I that watch film and think they know what they're doing.   Go find some quotes from real NFL scouts and most say Sanders was not a first round talent.

I'm not searching the internet to find you a quote.  Go read national writers that quote real NFL scouts and executives.  Start with Athletic and ESPN.   Don't be lazy.

Scouts don't watch film in addition to all the in person stuff they do? Also, with the amount of footage out there from broadcast to ALL-22 and everything. It is really easy to get a feel for the on-field play of the  kids anymore.

Again- you deflect from having a direct person to quote from. I've read national writers and executives and a lot of their stuff is after the fact comments now. We are talking about up to the draft talk. Who up to the point of the draft was saying he was really low on the prospect scale? 

 

[MDC 7,125]

3 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

Your guy. 

Link?

[CaptainObvious1 324]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Scouts don't watch film in addition to all the in person stuff they do? Also, with the amount of footage out there from broadcast to ALL-22 and everything. It is really easy to get a feel for the on-field play of the  kids anymore.

Again- you deflect from having a direct person to quote from. I've read national writers and executives and a lot of their stuff is after the fact comments now. We are talking about up to the draft talk. Who up to the point of the draft was saying he was really low on the prospect scale? 

 

Can you ##### read?  NFL scouts were saying.  You can ask me 100 more times and I'm not doing the work for you to go find articles I read a week ago or a month ago.  Do your own ##### work.   But quoting some random internet website that puts out rankings and a mock draft and insisting that sets a players value in an NFL draft room is beyond stupid.   But you seem to be an expert at stupid.

[peenie 1,905]

12 hours ago, Strike said:

"I don't care about this subject but I'm going to post incessantly about it because RACISM!!!!!!!"

I didn't say it was racism, I think it's more that Deion and his sons had a lot of media attention and it's annoying to people and people are happy to see them fall. Maybe it's true, Shedeur isn't a great QB, but maybe it doesn't matter, the draft was watched at record numbers, and I believe the Sanders family are responsible. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

3 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

Can you ##### read?  NFL scouts were saying.  You can ask me 100 more times and I'm not doing the work for you to go find articles I read a week ago or a month ago.  Do your own ##### work.   But quoting some random internet website that puts out rankings and a mock draft and insisting that sets a players value in an NFL draft room is beyond stupid.   But you seem to be an expert at stupid.

I read scouts putting together worth of a player. I read stuff being said by scouts internally. I read stuff related to scouting at the combine. The majority of what was out there was that Sanders was at worst a late first round pick. Certainly nothing I really saw indicated he was a 5th round pick or anything like that. Also, I'm not saying that a mock draft sets a players value. But I know for guys like Jeremiah and PFF (unless you are going to say they aren't scouting either) they are also talking to people in draft rooms and while they might get smoke screened at times are building predictions based off what they are hearing. The day before the draft is when some stuff started coming out about Sanders having poor interviews and even then once he didn't go in round 1 there was still a ton of talk that he was going on Day 2. 

Stop making up things to argue against. Stop ignoring the questions you are being asked. And calm the hell down. I simply asked for you to provide insight into who you were seeing so I can make sure to add them to my reading rotation going forward. You've yet to do that. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Just now, peenie said:

I didn't say it was racism, I think it's more that Deion and his sons had a lot of media attention and it's annoying to people and people are happy to see them fall. Maybe it's true, Shedeur isn't a great QB, but maybe it doesn't matter, the draft was watched at record numbers, and I believe the Sanders family are responsible. 

Deion controls everything about the Colorado program so there have been real concerns you aren't getting the full story of Shadeur because people don't want to speak up for fear of their jobs. 

 

But yes- Deion as a presence is great for the program, and college football viewership

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

Experts.  At this point? Really? Gutterboy and Mooney are such hapless clowns. Funny neither one of them had much to say BEFORE the draft. Now their experts tell them what to say.  

[Alias Detective 1,389]

15 minutes ago, MDC said:

Link?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Kiper_Jr.#:~:text=According to The Huddle Report,of 256 from 2010–2018.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/last-5-years--mel-kiper-predicted-8-picks-right/

[CaptainObvious1 324]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I read scouts putting together worth of a player. I read stuff being said by scouts internally. I read stuff related to scouting at the combine. The majority of what was out there was that Sanders was at worst a late first round pick. Certainly nothing I really saw indicated he was a 5th round pick or anything like that. Also, I'm not saying that a mock draft sets a players value. But I know for guys like Jeremiah and PFF (unless you are going to say they aren't scouting either) they are also talking to people in draft rooms and while they might get smoke screened at times are building predictions based off what they are hearing. The day before the draft is when some stuff started coming out about Sanders having poor interviews and even then once he didn't go in round 1 there was still a ton of talk that he was going on Day 2. 

Stop making up things to argue against. Stop ignoring the questions you are being asked. And calm the hell down. I simply asked for you to provide insight into who you were seeing so I can make sure to add them to my reading rotation going forward. You've yet to do that. 

Does Daniel Jeremiah make draft picks for a team or have input to a team?  Those 32 executives and their scouts are what matters since they make the picks and set the market.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6315567/2025/04/28/shedeur-sanders-deion-nfl-draft-slide/

Most coaches and front office members keep their thoughts very close to the vest leading up to the draft. A few didn’t hesitate to crush Sanders for how he handled himself in some interviews, and they also didn’t mind (anonymously) sharing red flags they saw in his game: Holds onto the ball too long. Doesn’t play with good rhythm. Has just average arm strength and athleticism. A few evaluators, so put off by the way the player carried himself, gave him a late-round to undraftable grade. Were they letting their egos or feelings get in the way? Perhaps to a degree.

More muted evaluators chose to chalk Sanders’ behavior up to the influence of his father, and they also noted that no teammate had ever said a bad word about the quarterback. Skill-wise, they didn’t view Sanders as beyond repair, but they didn’t see elite traits.

Asked for an assessment of Sanders’ pro day performance in early April, one NFL talent evaluator in attendance — speaking on condition of anonymity so he could provide an honest answer — said: “Solid, efficient workout. Nothing special or bad.” Another from a different team, when asked for his pre-draft assessment of Sanders, described him as “talented, good movement, can process and read defenses.” But neither executive viewed him as worthy of a first-round pick.

 

So, while media and NFL fans expressed surprise that Sanders slid out of the first round, NFL talent evaluators did not. Second or third round felt right in their minds considering the deficiencies in his game, perceived character flaws and a fear of the Deion effect (that Shedeur could heed his father’s advice over his coaches’ in times of struggle, or that the outspoken Deion would criticize any handling of Shedeur with which he disagreed).

 

 

http://nytimes.com/athletic/6307646/2025/04/25/nfl-draft-shedeur-sanders-fall-not-surprise/

 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

He wasn't worth the hassle.  That's why he fell in the draft.  Teams don't want to put up with that crap from a 1st round draft pick.

[BeenHereBefore 1,456]

I heard the Browns are in talks with El Salvador to get  Kilmar Ábrego Garcia, as their 4th QB.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

3 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

(1)Does Daniel Jeremiah make draft picks for a team or have input to a team?  Those 32 executives and their scouts are what matters since they make the picks and set the market.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6315567/2025/04/28/shedeur-sanders-deion-nfl-draft-slide/

Most coaches and front office members keep their thoughts very close to the vest leading up to the draft. (2) A few didn’t hesitate to crush Sanders for how he handled himself in some interviews, and they also didn’t mind (anonymously) sharing red flags they saw in his game: Holds onto the ball too long. Doesn’t play with good rhythm. Has just average arm strength and athleticism. A few evaluators, so put off by the way the player carried himself, gave him a late-round to undraftable grade. Were they letting their egos or feelings get in the way? Perhaps to a degree.

More muted evaluators chose to chalk Sanders’ behavior up to the influence of his father, and they also noted that no teammate had ever said a bad word about the quarterback. Skill-wise, they didn’t view Sanders as beyond repair, but they didn’t see elite traits.

Asked for an assessment of Sanders’ pro day performance in early April, one NFL talent evaluator in attendance — speaking on condition of anonymity so he could provide an honest answer — said: “Solid, efficient workout. Nothing special or bad.” Another from a different team, when asked for his pre-draft assessment of Sanders, described him as “talented, good movement, can process and read defenses.” (3) But neither executive viewed him as worthy of a first-round pick.

 

So, while media and NFL fans expressed surprise that Sanders slid out of the first round, (4) NFL talent evaluators did not. Second or third round felt right in their minds considering the deficiencies in his game, perceived character flaws and a fear of the Deion effect (that Shedeur could heed his father’s advice over his coaches’ in times of struggle, or that the outspoken Deion would criticize any handling of Shedeur with which he disagreed).

 

 

http://nytimes.com/athletic/6307646/2025/04/25/nfl-draft-shedeur-sanders-fall-not-surprise/

 

1.) So you want to change the parameters of the discussion.

2.) Yes I said a majority of people still had him as a late first round pick. Which would indicate some didn't. I never argued some had him dropping to Day 2 or the like. \

3.) Did they see him as a Day 2, Day 3 pick? How far was he down for them?

4.) The linked article is funny because it is a bit misleading. When the Steelers didn't select him they asked 10 executives if they were surprised to see Sanders still there and all 10 said no. There was one quarterback drafted to that point. That QB went first overall and by most evaluators was better than Sanders- or at least they had a better handle on. So if you are asking someone "Hey only 1 QB has been taken to this point are you surprised it wasn't Sanders." it makes some sense the answer would be no."

Additionally- I wouldn't have ranked Sanders ahead of any of the 1st round QBs in 2024 either....and NFL Draft Buzz had it super close (Sanders 88.1 and Nix 87.4) to the point that you could make a case one way or the other.

5.) And of course 2nd or 3rd round felt right- I thought he was probably a 2nd round talent but the idea was that he would go 1st round because it was a weaker class and someone would trade up to get him before someone else could. 

 

Sanders may not be a NFL elite QB like he thinks he will be but he is sure as better than Tommy Slough. He's probably going to have a better career than Dillion Gabriel and Jalen Milroe too. 

 

[CaptainObvious1 324]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

1.) So you want to change the parameters of the discussion.

2.) Yes I said a majority of people still had him as a late first round pick. Which would indicate some didn't. I never argued some had him dropping to Day 2 or the like. \

3.) Did they see him as a Day 2, Day 3 pick? How far was he down for them?

4.) The linked article is funny because it is a bit misleading. When the Steelers didn't select him they asked 10 executives if they were surprised to see Sanders still there and all 10 said no. There was one quarterback drafted to that point. That QB went first overall and by most evaluators was better than Sanders- or at least they had a better handle on. So if you are asking someone "Hey only 1 QB has been taken to this point are you surprised it wasn't Sanders." it makes some sense the answer would be no."

Additionally- I wouldn't have ranked Sanders ahead of any of the 1st round QBs in 2024 either....and NFL Draft Buzz had it super close (Sanders 88.1 and Nix 87.4) to the point that you could make a case one way or the other.

5.) And of course 2nd or 3rd round felt right- I thought he was probably a 2nd round talent but the idea was that he would go 1st round because it was a weaker class and someone would trade up to get him before someone else could. 

 

Sanders may not be a NFL elite QB like he thinks he will be but he is sure as better than Tommy Slough. He's probably going to have a better career than Dillion Gabriel and Jalen Milroe too. 

 

How about you find some coaches, executives and NFL scouts that viewed him as a first round pick?  No one is changing the parameters of the discussion, a$$hat.  I've said from post one that NFL personnel didn't view him as a first rounder.  

 

Remember Malik Willis?  All your sites had him in the top 5 and he went third round.  He went third round because that's where the NFL viewed his talent.

 

If you want to argue the majority of the NFL had a round 1 QB but let him slip to Round 5, go for it.  You will look like an idiot but you often look like an idiot.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

So enough talk about this Sanders stuff. Let's have some people put up their opinions on record. What do you see as Sanders ceiling?:

1.) NFL Elite QB

2.) Decent QB who might be able to lead you to a playoff here and there but plagued by inconsistencies.

3.) Average starter who will lead team to like consistent 9-8/8-9 seasons

4.) Career Backup who kicks around the NFL wearing a headset making bank doing nothing.

5.) Complete and utter NFL washout.

6.) Best QB in the CFL

7.) Best QB in the UFL

[jonnyutah 248]

Once he fell out of first round it becomes easy to see how he fell to the fifth. Nobody wants to struggle signing their second round pick. Nobody wants their second round pick to be a massive distraction.

Eventually though it gets to a point where the draft position becomes low enough to justify all of it. "So what, we are getting a potential first round talent"

 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

1 minute ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

How about you find some coaches, executives and NFL scouts that viewed him as a first round pick?  No one is changing the parameters of the discussion, a$$hat.  I've said from post one that NFL personnel didn't view him as a first rounder.  

 

Remember Malik Willis?  All your sites had him in the top 5 and he went third round.  He went third round because that's where the NFL viewed his talent.

 

If you want to argue the majority of the NFL had a round 1 QB but let him slip to Round 5, go for it.  You will look like an idiot but you often look like an idiot.

Well clearly if no one took him in the 1st round he wasn't a 1st round pick. We were never discussing that. We were discussing the projections and perceptions. Again- you are trying to change the discussion.

2022 NFL Draft Buzz QB rankings:

1.) Kenny Pickett

2.) Matt Corral

3.) Desmond Ridder

4.) Sam Howell

5.) Carson Strong

6.) Brock Purdy (Hell NFL Draft Buzz had him as a late 2nd round pick and he of course famously went last)

7.) Malik Willis

The number 7 is not in the top 5. Maybe you don't know that. 

Walter Football had him #2 and clearly they were off. But that's why I read multiple people and not just 1. I'm looking for patterns and all that.

 

 

[BeenHereBefore 1,456]

What a sh!t show of QB's.

[CaptainObvious1 324]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Well clearly if no one took him in the 1st round he wasn't a 1st round pick. We were never discussing that. We were discussing the projections and perceptions. Again- you are trying to change the discussion.

2022 NFL Draft Buzz QB rankings:

1.) Kenny Pickett

2.) Matt Corral

3.) Desmond Ridder

4.) Sam Howell

5.) Carson Strong

6.) Brock Purdy (Hell NFL Draft Buzz had him as a late 2nd round pick and he of course famously went last)

7.) Malik Willis

The number 7 is not in the top 5. Maybe you don't know that. 

Walter Football had him #2 and clearly they were off. But that's why I read multiple people and not just 1. I'm looking for patterns and all that.

 

 

Willis consensus mock was 20th overall.   Stop being dumb

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-drafts/2022/consensus-mock-draft-2022

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

HT- Sanders wasn’t going to be a late first round pick. 
 

Retards- Dart went in the first round. 
 

Just another HTDS day at the geek club  

 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

8 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Once he fell out of first round it becomes easy to see how he fell to the fifth. Nobody wants to struggle signing their second round pick. Nobody wants their second round pick to be a massive distraction.

Eventually though it gets to a point where the draft position becomes low enough to justify all of it. "So what, we are getting a potential first round talent"

 

Agreed...and that's a good discussion to have over it. The other thing that happens- naturally- is when guys fall, there are some other teams who start looking and saying "Is there something we are missing?" and the snowball picks up speed rolling downhill.

Sanders was the 2nd best QB in a relatively weak QB class- especially compared to 2024, 2023, 2021, 2020 (on paper with all of them at least) and that is hard to bake a value into sometimes. Because you have to account for the talent, and then what teams are willing to do to get that talent. I think the Steelers were looked at as a destination because it is clear they want Rodgers and you could sit Sanders behind him to grow. Problem that people overlooked is- Rodgers isn't going to be happy if you draft his backup right away like that while you are pursuing him. 

Sanders might be a product of a strong hype machine, but that strong hype machine also negatively affected him in the process here. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

3 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

Willis consensus mock was 20th overall.   Stop being dumb

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-drafts/2022/consensus-mock-draft-2022

 

So NFL Draft Buzz doesn't count as scouting but NFL Mock Draft Database counts as an authoritative source on value?

You aren't being serious at this point anymore. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

5 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

What a sh!t show of QB's.

 

That is what stood out to me in that class as well. I mean- Purdy is the best of them and really it took a couple injuries to get him on the field and I don't think they were drafting him expecting him to be their franchise QB for any period of time. 

[MDC 7,125]

HT: Sanders wasn’t going late first because no teams picking 22-32 needed a QB!

GC: Dart went 25 overall.

HT: Nobody picked Sanders to go 22-32!

GC: Here are some links to pundits who did.

HT:  

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Just now, MDC said:

HT: Sanders wasn’t going late first because no teams picking 22-32 needed a QB!

GC: Dart went 25 overall.

HT: Nobody picked Sanders to go 22-32!

GC: Here are some links to pundits who did.

HT:  

HT is an autistic weirdo. Do like I do and just stop interacting with him directly. It isn't worth the time and you can watch him desperately try to get you to notice him for months on end. 

[CaptainObvious1 324]

13 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

So NFL Draft Buzz doesn't count as scouting but NFL Mock Draft Database counts as an authoritative source on value?

You aren't being serious at this point anymore. 

You are retarded.  I'm quoting the same sh!t you are and Im not being serious?  I've already embarrassed your dumb ass regarding Sanders.  The point is all these idiots you quote had the same wrong process on Sanders as they had on Willis.  Neither was ever first round picks for people that mattered no matter how many god damn websites you read.

[Mike Honcho 5,096]

1 hour ago, Alias Detective said:

Your guy.  Bwahahahah

Mel Kiper Jr.'s accuracy in predicting the NFL draft is often criticized, with various reports suggesting his accuracy is around 25% for the first round. Some sources even suggest that in his initial mock drafts, his accuracy has been as low as 17 out of 256 correctly predicted picks over a period of years. While Kiper's drafts are a staple of the NFL pre-draft buzz, his predictions have not consistently been highly accurate. 

 

IMO, that's not a fair assessment in predicting the draft. A guy I used to follow, Bob McGinn who also predicts the draft says the more accurate way to assess accuracy is how many of they players you predict to go in the top 100 end up being selected.  If you just want to use the first round the percentage of guys you predicted would get drafted in the first round compared to who was selected. Saying he only predicted 17 out 256 correctly hitting the exact spot is a poor way to analyze accuracy. If you predict one guy to go 3rd and another 4th and they flip flop, that's miss. Not in my book, you predicted both players within 1 pick, you assessed their value pretty accurately. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

14 minutes ago, MDC said:

HT: Sanders wasn’t going late first because no teams picking 22-32 needed a QB!

GC: Dart went 25 overall.

HT: Nobody picked Sanders to go 22-32!

GC: Here are some links to pundits who did.

HT:  

No one KNEW that was going to happen. That’s what I said. And I’m right. Talk about autistic. You and Mooney need to get on some meds.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

Sad that Mooney , MDC and Gutterdope have to make it up to come at the king.  You missed. Again.  

[MDC 7,125]

There wasn’t one team picking 22-32 that needed a QB. Late first round my ass. 

 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

17 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

You are retarded.  I'm quoting the same sh!t you are and Im not being serious?  I've already embarrassed your dumb ass regarding Sanders.  The point is all these idiots you quote had the same wrong process on Sanders as they had on Willis.  Neither was ever first round picks for people that mattered no matter how many god damn websites you read.

Nobody I read had Willis as a 1st round pick. And your example you tried to use I proved definitively wrong.

You might want to sit the rest of this out champ. 

You tried to use NFL Mock Draft Database as a source. I mean...christ you are stupid. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

Just now, MDC said:

There wasn’t one team picking 22-32 that needed a QB. Late first round my ass. 

 

Yes. 100 pct true. This is amusing. What happened to your claim where I said no one could have predicted it? Produce it or shut it. Thanks.