Dem immigration talking points fizzle as dark picture of Abrego Garcia emerges

[Ron_Artest 2,135]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Their whole strategy is to let as many millions of illegals as they can in to the country, and then overwhelm the immigration and/or court system such that those people can't be removed.  It's ridiculous and why reasonable people such as myself don't give a sh*t how these people are removed as long as they are removed. 

Or it happens to you or someone you care about.

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Are you guys under the serious impression that people in this country ILLEGALLY get a criminal trial like OJ Simpson?  This is simply absurd.

I wish you marxists would fight for actual American citizens with 25% of the effort that you defend illegal aliens that are not only here illegally, but committing additional crimes while they are here.  Unf'nbelievable.

No. Actually no one argues that. People who wish to reframe the argument wish to pretend that the 1969 INA doesn't exist. These are proceedings which were created under the authority of Congress.

Though since you raise Marx, it's marxist to argue that some people aren't entitled to due process right? I think the principle - under marxism - is that the needs of the people and the state predominate over the needs of the individual. You'd agree with that, yes?

[Mike Honcho 5,412]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Their whole strategy is to let as many millions of illegals as they can in to the country, and then overwhelm the immigration and/or court system such that those people can't be removed.  It's ridiculous and why reasonable people such as myself don't give a sh*t how these people are removed as long as they are removed. 

The fact that you actually believe this drastically undermines your claim of being reasonable. 

[shadrap 252]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

The fact that you actually believe this drastically undermines your claim of being reasonable. 

so why did Biden let in 10 to 12 million immigrants, some flown in, some set up in motels with free phones?  if you mention compassion you would be wrong.

[jbycho 754]

3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

The fact that you actually believe this drastically undermines your claim of being reasonable. 

Wow. You need serious deprogramming. 

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

1 minute ago, shadrap said:

so why did Biden let in 10 to 12 million immigrants, some flown in, some set up in motels with free phones?  if you mention compassion you would be wrong.

FYI.

[shadrap 252]

2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

FYI.

cute.  now tell me how that link even remotely answers my question.

[jerryskids 7,050]

43 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

True, I’d also like to ask the one judge if she’d still consider that cop trustworthy since he got fired, indicted and pled guilty

Of course he isn't trustworthy. He lied about everything, especially things that didn't directly affect him. That helped him stay under the radar 

Garcia however is impeccable. He has no reason to lie. 

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

8 minutes ago, shadrap said:

cute.  now tell me how that link even remotely answers my question.

It does. It tells us that Biden typically removed as many people as Trump if not more and Obama almost always removed more. If you're claiming that there was a massive increase in immigrants during Biden's administration fine but he only has the budget Congress gives him, same goes for Trump, which is probably why Trump is struggling to deport/remove people himself.

[Mike Honcho 5,412]

5 minutes ago, shadrap said:

so why did Biden let in 10 to 12 million immigrants, some flown in, some set up in motels with free phones?  if you mention compassion you would be wrong.

I'm not going to answer that without knowing where you are getting those numbers, before I even consider the question. 

[shadrap 252]

7 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I'm not going to answer that without knowing where you are getting those numbers, before I even consider the question. 

cool.  What number are you comfortable with as far as immigrants let in under Biden?   

[jbycho 754]

8 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I'm not going to answer that without knowing where you are getting those numbers, before I even consider the question. 

Wow. You need serious deprogramming. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

24 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

The fact that you actually believe this drastically undermines your claim of being reasonable. 

The fact you don’t makes me think you can’t understand normal thinking. 

[shadrap 252]

12 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It does. It tells us that Biden typically removed as many people as Trump if not more and Obama almost always removed more. If you're claiming that there was a massive increase in immigrants during Biden's administration fine but he only has the budget Congress gives him, same goes for Trump, which is probably why Trump is struggling to deport/remove people himself.

cute again.  I asked the reason why Biden let in 10 to 12 million immigrants.  You want to point out where I mentioned anything at all about removal?  I didn't.

hard pass on anything further including idiotic semantics.

adios

 

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

3 minutes ago, shadrap said:

cute again.  I asked the reason why Biden let in 10 to 12 million immigrants.  You want to point out where I mentioned anything at all about removal?  I didn't.

It's basic math. The number is totally dubious but if you think 12 million people showed up at the border Biden had no control over that.

[jbycho 754]

2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It's basic math. The number is totally dubious but if you think 12 million people showed up at the border Biden had no control over that.

Biden was falling on his face at the time. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It's basic math. The number is totally dubious but if you think 12 million people showed up at the border Biden had no control over that.

So he didn’t give them any incentive? 

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So he didn’t give them any incentive? 

Well yes he did in a way, after Covid the US economy grew at a faster and better rate than any nation in the world, so yeah people were definitely attracted to that. Heck that's probably how your people got here.

And Trump's certainly not throwing them out now is he? His removal numbers are near or below Biden's.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Well yes he did in a way, after Covid the US economy grew at a faster and better rate than any nation in the world, so yeah people were definitely attracted to that. Heck that's probably how your people got here.

And Trump's certainly not throwing them out now is he? His removal numbers are near or below Biden's.

So no phones, a cash card, food, medical and housing? Legal services? 

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

3 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Biden was falling on his face at the time. 

Exactly, so he couldn't have been standing one the border waving a 'Bienvenido Extranjeros' sign.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

This saints moron can prattle on all he likes. The American people saw what went down and voted accordingly, giving the man that opposed it the popular vote. And it’s going to be great campaign fodder next year. If only the democrats fought as hard for working people as they do for scumbag gang members here illegally.  Continue, please. 

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So no phones, a cash card, food, medical and housing? Legal services? 

Just to take one, the phones started under the Trump administration. They're loaded with an app and can only be used for the app. Biden's DHS continued that policy.

I also try to think of someone riding on top of a train or in a barrel through the Sonoran desert for hundreds to thousands of miles because they heard they might get a free phone out of it. Not for the jobs or money to send home or to escape narcoterrorists, no, you see, they wanted a phone.

[Engorgeous George 2,332]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I know a guy who could do that and has a lot more power than me

Brian Boitano?

[TimHauck 3,283]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but this is the whole basis for the allegation that Garcia is MS13.

There's a specific section for scars, marks & tattoos - there is nothing there. Tattoos had nothing to do with identifying Garcia as MS13.

Yup that was my point.  If the tattoos were “obviously” meant to denote MS-13 they would have been listed.  

[jonnyutah 526]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Or it happens to you or someone you care about.

That is the best part. I dont care about a single illegal. Not one. Thanos could snap them into oblivion tomorrow and I wouldnt give two shiites. 

My god the reduction in noise pollution from leaf blowers would make it all so beautiful. 

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The American people saw what went down and voted accordingly, giving the man that opposed it the popular vote. And it’s going to be great campaign fodder next year.

Every president wins their election. But they take an oath to the Constitution and they do not get to write their own laws.

[seafoam1 3,393]

4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Every president wins their election. But they take an oath to the Constitution and they do not get to write their own laws.

You are slipping. Maybe it's your age or mental disability. Whatever. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

15 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Every president wins their election. But they take an oath to the Constitution and they do not get to write their own laws.

Yeah, go with that. Thanks. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,330]

On 5/5/2025 at 8:22 AM, The Real timschochet said:

Due process. 

Which is what he got. Case closed.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,330]

Trump will keep deporting these people and he doesn't care about what the liberal version of due process is.

Biden shouldn't have let 15 million people walk across the border, which he knew would create a judicial nightmare. Making it almost impossible to get the majority of these illegals out.

Thank you Trump.

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

3 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Trump will keep deporting these people and he doesn't care about what the liberal version of due process is.

Trump blocked from renditioning illegal aliens to Libya.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,330]

14 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump blocked from renditioning illegal aliens to Libya.

He will get around it eventually. Don't worry. Activist judges dont stand in the way of fixing this country.

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

Just now, Frozenbeernuts said:

He will get around it eventually. Don't worry. Activist judges dont stand in the way of fixing this country.

Right, like all nine on the USSC who ruled against him.

[Mike Honcho 5,412]

2 hours ago, shadrap said:

cool.  What number are you comfortable with as far as immigrants let in under Biden?   

One that I don't question is something you made up. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,330]

7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Right, like all nine on the USSC who ruled against him.

Like I said he will figure it out. Don't worry about keeping illegals here. Its not worth your energy.

[SaintsInDome2006 600]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Like I said he will figure it out. Don't worry about keeping illegals here. Its not worth your energy.

Oh worry ye not, there's no one I'd rather in charge of this project than the great bankrupter of casinos.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

Republicans win the election in a rout with immigration being the prominent issue. Libtards trying to keep illegals, even the violent criminals here.  More please. 

[TimHauck 3,283]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Every president wins their election. But they take an oath to the Constitution and they do not get to write their own laws.

I wonder if he’s really going to try to take away birthright citizenship.   Guarantee that would not be a popular decision

[jonnyutah 526]

46 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump blocked from renditioning illegal aliens to Libya.

Lol. Judges ruling on things that arent even happening. 

[jonnyutah 526]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I wonder if he’s really going to try to take away birthright citizenship.   Guarantee that would not be a popular decision

If they granted citizenship to current and took it away for all going forward nobody would even care. I mean they would pretend to care because dems follow along, but they wouldnt actually care because it is just logical.