Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill”

[jbycho 657]

30 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Thank you.  So they call them cash but cash also includes credit cards.  Clear as mud.

Maybe you can make something racial out if it. Come on timmy, think hard!! 

[Horseman 2,413]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Thank you.  So they call them cash but cash also includes credit cards.  Clear as mud.

Metal Helmet too tight again.   

[Horseman 2,413]

14 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

The Student loan changes, that sucks for my kids.  Currently you don't pay anything while you're still a student.  Looks like that goes away.  More attacks on smart people.

The smart people get scholarships that pay for school.  HTH.  

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

13 minutes ago, Horseman said:

The smart people get scholarships that pay for school.  HTH.  

Smart people know how to read a flight log.

[Horseman 2,413]

16 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Smart people know how to read a flight log.

Snap and student loan changes are attacks on dumb people, not smart people. HTH. 

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

25 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Snap and student loan changes are attacks on dumb people, not smart people. HTH. 

Smart people go to college.  Dumb people like you don't.

[Hawkeye21 2,388]

I read through some of the bill last last night and didn't see anything too crazy.  Seemed like a lot of overreacting.  I found the tax deduction for loans on vehicles made in the US to be interesting.

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

Tanning tax removed, but maybe put back in.  Trump wants everyone to look orange like him.

Also stripping the courts of the ability to hold him in contempt.  I would assume that's unconstitutional.

[TimHauck 2,645]

55 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I read through some of the bill last last night and didn't see anything too crazy.  Seemed like a lot of overreacting.  I found the tax deduction for loans on vehicles made in the US to be interesting.

I believe it’s only on the interest though 

[Hawkeye21 2,388]

19 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I believe it’s only on the interest though 

Yep.  I think it's a pretty good idea.

[TimHauck 2,645]

5 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I read through some of the bill last last night and didn't see anything too crazy.  Seemed like a lot of overreacting.  I found the tax deduction for loans on vehicles made in the US to be interesting.

The tax stuff doesn’t seem too bad from what I can tell.

I’m not crazy about the $150 billion increase in defense funding, which completely wipes out DOGE’s alleged and likely already inflated “savings.”  I thought the defense budget was supposed to be an area we could have cut from.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,051]

 No tax on overtime is only for those making under 80k. 

[Horseman 2,413]

9 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Smart people go to college.  Dumb people like you don't.

I had a full-tuition scholarship and graduated summa laude.  

That being said, there are a lot of smart people that didn't go to college. Shall we list them out for you?  

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I had a full-tuition scholarship and graduated summa laude.  

[SUXBNME 1,460]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

 

That being said, there are a lot of smart people that didn't go to college. Shall we list them out for you?  

Charlie Kirk

[Horseman 2,413]

6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Full circle. 

Your kids aren't smart, and daddy isnt rich.  They take out student loans to pay for college. 

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

1 hour ago, Horseman said:

Full circle. 

Your kids aren't smart, and daddy isnt rich.  They take out student loans to pay for college. 

My kids are smarter than you.  I don't consider myself rich but I'm paying their college but wanted them to take some loans too to have skin in the game.

[CaptainObvious1 342]

39 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

My kids are smarter than you.  I don't consider myself rich but I'm paying their college but wanted them to take some loans too to have skin in the game.

You're a life loser

[Hardcore troubadour 15,051]

The senate is going to rip this apart. It’s as if Gutterboy doesn’t read the news. 

[5-Points 3,414]

11 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Smart people go to college.  Dumb people like you don't.

Dumb people take out loans they can't repay. 

Smart people don't need college to make a nice living. 

hth

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

13 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Dumb people take out loans they can't repay. 

Smart people don't need college to make a nice living. 

hth

College graduates make more than high school graduates

[jbycho 657]

24 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

College graduates make more than high school graduates

It's been a long day of whining for you. Take a couple minutes off. 

[5-Points 3,414]

28 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

College graduates make more than high school graduates

Not necessarily. 

But let's say you're correct, in general. If that's the case, then college graduates should stfu and pay off their student loans. 

 

[jonnyutah 255]

How do people making less than 15k get a 50% tax increase? They dont pay any federal income tax. 

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

7 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

How do people making less than 15k get a 50% tax increase? They dont pay any federal income tax. 

They don't get a tax increase but rather they lose services in the form of Medicaid and snap.  The overall effect of the bill is negative on those under $50k and very positive to those over $400k.  Redistributes wealth from the bottom to the top.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,051]

18 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

They don't get a tax increase but rather they lose services in the form of Medicaid and snap.  The overall effect of the bill is negative on those under $50k and very positive to those over $400k.  Redistributes wealth from the bottom to the top.

Too many able bodied on Medicaid. It wasn’t meant for them. Requiring they work part time for full medical is 100 pct the proper thing to do. They are taking too much.  

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Too many able bodied on Medicaid. It wasn’t meant for them. Requiring they work part time for full medical is 100 pct the proper thing to do. They are taking too much.  

Ignorant talking points.

They tried this in Arkansas and it didn't go well. https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00538

The result will be economic and physical painon the poorest and most vulnerable so that the elites can get an extra boat.  That's unconscionable.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,051]

13 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Ignorant talking points.

They tried this in Arkansas and it didn't go well. https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00538

The result will be economic and physical painon the poorest and most vulnerable so that the elites can get an extra boat.  That's unconscionable.

I’ll say it again, it wasnt meant for able bodied people, and that’s who this will affect.  Why are you pushing back? You think able bodied shouldn’t contribute? Why? 

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll say it again, it wasnt meant for able bodied people, and that’s who this will affect.  Why are you pushing back? You think able bodied shouldn’t contribute? Why? 

You're repeating a lie that you've been told that all these able bodied people are refusing to work so they can live in poverty and get free healthcare.  Do you know how dumb that sounds?

Again, they tried this in Arkansas.  It didn't go well for people.

Working class people will get hurt in order to benefit the rich elitists.  Just be honest on what side you're on.

[jbycho 657]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You're repeating a lie that you've been told that all these able bodied people are refusing to work so they can live in poverty and get free healthcare.  Do you know how dumb that sounds?

Again, they tried this in Arkansas.  It didn't go well for people.

Working class people will get hurt in order to benefit the rich elitists.  Just be honest on what side you're on.

Let the whine-fest commence!! 

[CaptainObvious1 342]

46 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Ignorant talking points

This is a great idea for your next alias

[Hardcore troubadour 15,051]

26 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You're repeating a lie that you've been told that all these able bodied people are refusing to work so they can live in poverty and get free healthcare.  Do you know how dumb that sounds?

Again, they tried this in Arkansas.  It didn't go well for people.

Working class people will get hurt in order to benefit the rich elitists.  Just be honest on what side you're on.

So there are no able bodied people on it capable of part time work? They are that jacked up? All of them? 

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So there are no able bodied people on it capable of part time work? They are that jacked up? All of them? 

I'm sure there is at least one.  Are you making the argument that it's more important for 1 "freeloader" to go back to work while hurting millions of others?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,051]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I'm sure there is at least one.  Are you making the argument that it's more important for 1 "freeloader" to go back to work while hurting millions of others?

I think there are a lot more. You think everyone on ssdi is legit and can’t do some work? Shows how sheltered you are. 

[Horseman 2,413]

My kids are smarter than you, but, I'm paying their college and we took out some loans too. 

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I think there are a lot more. You think everyone on ssdi is legit and can’t do some work? Shows how sheltered you are. 

Ssdi is not Medicaid dummy, but yeah I'm sheltered. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,051]

A simple google search would have cured your ignorance on the matter,  it your rage told you to shoot your mouth off as fast as you could. People on ssdi are eligible for Medicaid and Medicare. You thought they were paying for their own health plan? Wow.  

[CaptainObvious1 342]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Ssdi is not Medicaid dummy, but yeah I'm sheltered. 

Are you capable of a single post without acting like a 10 year old? 

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

A simple google search would have cured your ignorance on the matter,  it your rage told you to shoot your mouth off as fast as you could. People on ssdi are eligible for Medicaid and Medicare. You thought they were paying for their own health plan? Wow.  

Of course they are eligible but you're moving the goalposts which is what you do when you get called out on your BS.  We're talking about cutting Medical care to poor people so rich people can buy another boat.  You support this.

[MDC 7,185]

Healthy people on Medicaid so they can’t work is the modern “welfare crack mom” from the 80s.