Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill”

[supermike80 1,865]

CNN in 1944:  Hitler has killed millions and needs to be stopped!

Also CNN in 1944:  Hitler says "tariffs are bad for the world economy.  We should listen to him!"

[Ron_Artest 1,222]

19 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

CNN:   Musk is a NAZI!!!

Also CNN  Musk hates Trump's big beautiful bill...we should listen to what he says!

You're still.on this huh?

Couple of things.  I don't think CNN ever call musk a Nazi but I could be wrong.  They reported in his Nazi salutes and his Nazi past but that's what they do.  I also don't think that they are now saying we should listen to musk but I haven't watched CNN so feel free to prove me wrong here.

They are reporting on musk breaking rank.  You don't think that's newsworthy?  Should an outlet like CNN that has been critical of musk in the past now stop reporting on musk when he breaks rank?  Very odd point you're trying to make.

I can only assume your hatred of the left leaning media is causing this outburst but it's really weird and off base.

[Horseman 2,433]

33 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

CNN:   Musk is a NAZI!!!

Also CNN  Musk hates Trump's big beautiful bill...we should listen to what he says!

Fox news has the same headline!

 

 

What are you saying, it's some sort of fake news or whatever?

 

 

 

[Horseman 2,433]

6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 I don't think CNN ever call musk a Nazi.  They reported in his Nazi salutes.  

I also don't think that they.. but I haven't watched CNN. 

[supermike80 1,865]

8 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Fox news has the same headline!

 

 

What are you saying, it's some sort of fake news or whatever?

 

 

 

They don't get it.  I thought Timmy was the worst when it came to being manipulated by the media.  I see it is far far more ingrained in people.  It's a shame but oh well.

This is a very very big reason why Biden almost won.  The media played such a role and dimwits like Timmy and Squish ate it up.

Thank God the Washington Post is out there to tell us the fentanyl drop at the border is due to unknown factors.

It's amazing

[Horseman 2,433]

4 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

They don't get it.  I thought Timmy was the worst when it came to being manipulated by the media.  I see it is far far more ingrained in people.  It's a shame but oh well.

This is a very very big reason why Biden almost won.  The media played such a role and dimwits like Timmy and Squish ate it up.

Thank God the Washington Post is out there to tell us the fentanyl drop at the border is due to unknown factors.

It's amazing

They didn't call him a Nazi, they just reported all his Nazi salutes!

 

[Ron_Artest 1,222]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/elon-musk-keeps-on-dissing-trump-in-flurry-of-new-posts/ar-AA1G36h8

Musk continues his assault on Trump.

I know Musk was a big proponent of balancing the budget and reducing debt during the campaign and it was echoed by Trump.  But now that Trump booted Elon and is pushing trillions in more debt, is this just Elon going back to his talking points or sour grapes for being booted out?  Time will tell.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/elon-musk-keeps-on-dissing-trump-in-flurry-of-new-posts/ar-AA1G36h8

Musk continues his assault on Trump.

I know Musk was a big proponent of balancing the budget and reducing debt during the campaign and it was echoed by Trump.  But now that Trump booted Elon and is pushing trillions in more debt, is this just Elon going back to his talking points or sour grapes for being booted out?  Time will tell.

Wash woman

[Engorgeous George 2,236]

17 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

means testing

So, robbing the productive to continue providing for the unproductive.  What behavior does that incentivize?

[Ron_Artest 1,222]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

So, robbing the productive to continue providing for the unproductive.  What behavior does that incentivize?

I've heard this argument my whole life but successful people still continue to work hard, earn money and pay taxes despite receiving little in the way of direct government assistance.  I'm sure you did the same.

[thegeneral 3,065]

2 hours ago, Horseman said:

He called you a lemming, dumb as fok and utterly dim. 

And he's 100% correct.  

That’s like saying hello on this shithole when talking politics (you are a highly emotional bunch) I think the same of many of you

What he doesn’t do is talk about people’s wives, their diseases, etc. 

[thegeneral 3,065]

1 hour ago, supermike80 said:

CNN in 1944:  Hitler has killed millions and needs to be stopped!

Also CNN in 1944:  Hitler says "tariffs are bad for the world economy.  We should listen to him!"

Let’s try this. Was Elon’s position in the government newsworthy? 

[Tebok 406]

Republicans express remorse over this bill vote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/03/us/politics/house-republicans-policy-bill-regrets.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAQ2pHJtvuKwd5UGPjeuKLAyLaDmgEqDwgAKgcICjCO64oDMJavPA&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=ASWzDAgnyVESn7Q5NtpmVGOit_MYjXJGuVcDSYgqdkGEExKZyt26TVuqS9WPgdG5o6IQ35qs-zDPOFdmhwucMXd0GLDfWzYVp5hbKDA%3D&gaa_ts=68405845&gaa_sig=pXbwmEuua5RmkAKK9DUg7-O5L2Qx_YQ1PIeO9Mf6EQGu-SuaYKeAfQIWt9407x30Dke8qTo8SDCDQBnSvKSFOg%3D%3D

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Last week, Representative Mike Flood of Nebraska admitted during a town hall meeting in his district that he did not know that the bill would limit judges’ power to hold people in contempt for violating court orders. He would not have voted for the measure, he said, if he had realized.

And as lawmakers returned to Washington on Tuesday after their weeklong break, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia said that she had been unaware that the mega-bill she voted for would block states from regulating artificial intelligence for a decade.

“Full transparency, I did not know about this section,” Ms. Greene posted on social media, calling it a violation of states’ rights and adding that she “would have voted NO if I had known this was in there.”

So they voted on a bill they hadn't fully read.

 

[RLLD 4,180]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/elon-musk-keeps-on-dissing-trump-in-flurry-of-new-posts/ar-AA1G36h8

Musk continues his assault on Trump.

I know Musk was a big proponent of balancing the budget and reducing debt during the campaign and it was echoed by Trump.  But now that Trump booted Elon and is pushing trillions in more debt, is this just Elon going back to his talking points or sour grapes for being booted out?  Time will tell.

So, can we assume that Musk is one again a "good guy", or will you need something else from him to restore that mantle?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

Walt a second, we were told my Gutterboy, MDC , Rusty and other board shitlibs that Elon would receive big government contracts along with other goodies for his work on doge from Trump.  Wrong again.  It never stops.  

[Engorgeous George 2,236]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

I've heard this argument my whole life but successful people still continue to work hard, earn money and pay taxes despite receiving little in the way of direct government assistance.  I'm sure you did the same.

Heard, but did not process.  

[Fnord 2,135]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Walt a second, we were told my Gutterboy, MDC , Rusty and other board shitlibs that Elon would receive big government contracts along with other goodies for his work on doge from Trump.  Wrong again.  It never stops.  

Link to those contracts being canceled? Once again, you're FOS.

Elon absolutely targeted regulators and inspectors that had open investigations against SpaceX and Tesla, at the very least. 

And FTR, just because Elon said one (truthful) thing about this abortion of legislation the GOP is trying to ram through doesn't suddenly make him some liberal hero.

You actually believe that libs have no ability to think for themselves, don't you? I mean variations of that theme get posted all the time, and I've always taken it as hyperbolic half-trolling. But some of you are seriously dumb enough to think that every liberal is a total moron while biching about how libs think every MAGA is a stupid racist. Grow some self awareness.

 

[purdygood 342]

16 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

I think my biggest concerns are around the potential impact for rural areas; hospitals facing the reality of closing/ discontinuing services, and rural grocery stores who depend on revenue from snap benefits to keep their doors open.   

Elections have consequences.

[Fnord 2,135]

16 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

I think my biggest concerns are around the potential impact for rural areas; hospitals facing the reality of closing/ discontinuing services, and rural grocery stores who depend on revenue from snap benefits to keep their doors open.   

This is practically inevitable if DOGE cuts, current EO's and tariffs remain in effect. It will be a disaster for rural health and the underserved; mostly harming people that voted for the guy that's responsible. It's cruel.

[thegeneral 3,065]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

This is practically inevitable if DOGE cuts, current EO's and tariffs remain in effect. It will be a disaster for rural health and the underserved; mostly harming people that voted for the guy that's responsible. It's cruel.

Yep: Somehow many of those voters will end up blaming “government” and liberals for this in a few years. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Link to those contracts being canceled? Once again, you're FOS.

Elon absolutely targeted regulators and inspectors that had open investigations against SpaceX and Tesla, at the very least. 

And FTR, just because Elon said one (truthful) thing about this abortion of legislation the GOP is trying to ram through doesn't suddenly make him some liberal hero.

You actually believe that libs have no ability to think for themselves, don't you? I mean variations of that theme get posted all the time, and I've always taken it as hyperbolic half-trolling. But some of you are seriously dumb enough to think that every liberal is a total moron while biching about how libs think every MAGA is a stupid racist. Grow some self awareness.

 

lol. Try reading some actual news you hysterical ninny. 

[supermike80 1,865]

29 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So, can we assume that Musk is one again a "good guy", or will you need something else from him to restore that mantle?

It's hilarious.   Seriously.   this guy was hated, and I mean despised by the left....now, they are back to loving him.

Jimmy Kimmel  Redux.  No matter what you do.  No matter how horrible you are...as long as you go against Trump, the left gets on board.

[thegeneral 3,065]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

lol. Try reading some actual news you hysterical ninny. 

What “news” would that be. You all have trouble discerning this type of thing.

[supermike80 1,865]

1 hour ago, Tebok said:

Republicans express remorse over this bill vote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/03/us/politics/house-republicans-policy-bill-regrets.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAQ2pHJtvuKwd5UGPjeuKLAyLaDmgEqDwgAKgcICjCO64oDMJavPA&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=ASWzDAgnyVESn7Q5NtpmVGOit_MYjXJGuVcDSYgqdkGEExKZyt26TVuqS9WPgdG5o6IQ35qs-zDPOFdmhwucMXd0GLDfWzYVp5hbKDA%3D&gaa_ts=68405845&gaa_sig=pXbwmEuua5RmkAKK9DUg7-O5L2Qx_YQ1PIeO9Mf6EQGu-SuaYKeAfQIWt9407x30Dke8qTo8SDCDQBnSvKSFOg%3D%3D

So they voted on a bill they hadn't fully read.

 

So you believe this is the only time a lawmaker hasn't read a bill they signed?  Come on man.   Seriously?  God the TDS is amazing

[thegeneral 3,065]

Just now, supermike80 said:

30 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So, can we assume that Musk is one again a "good guy", or will you need something else from him to restore that mantle?

It's hilarious.   Seriously.   this guy was hated, and I mean despised by the left....now, they are back to loving him.

Jimmy Kimmel  Redux.  No matter what you do.  No matter how horrible you are...as long as you go against Trump, the left gets on board.

You guys just don’t get it. The types of people who hate Musk for his backing of Trump and his comical DOGE fiasco are enjoying this as a spectacle. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

What “news” would that be. You all have trouble discerning this type of thing.

Starlink not being used for airports for starters. Now go read some news. That’s all the toddler teaching I’m doing today. 

[supermike80 1,865]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Let’s try this. Was Elon’s position in the government newsworthy? 

It always has been.   But why would CNN use his opinion, a guy who uses nazi salutes, to bolster their argument when there are literally hundreds of others, who are not nazis, who also disagree?  Why would they want to tell us what a nazi thinks?  

[supermike80 1,865]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

You guys just don’t get it. The types of people who hate Musk for his backing of Trump and his comical DOGE fiasco are enjoying this as a spectacle. 

No.  You're the one that doesn't get it.  if CNN was doing that, like a ha ha look how Elon screwed you republicans too, I'd buy it.  They are not doing that at all.  They are using his words to support their dislike of the bill.  Again, he's a nazi. or so I was told.  I mean his salute said it all.  And now CNN likes him?   

[RLLD 4,180]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

You guys just don’t get it. The types of people who hate Musk for his backing of Trump and his comical DOGE fiasco are enjoying this as a spectacle. 

Maybe, I am patient, lets wait and see.

What I see is healthy conflict, something useful that should be applauded as distinctly different from the cultist nature of the left. 

[Fnord 2,135]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Starlink not being used for airports for starters. Now go read some news. That’s all the toddler teaching I’m doing today. 

[thegeneral 3,065]

Just now, supermike80 said:

It always has been.   But why would CNN use his opinion, a guy who uses nazi salutes, to bolster their argument when there are literally hundreds of others, who are not nazis, who also disagree?  Why would they want to tell us what a nazi thinks?  

There are the screaming head shows on CNN where some are “Elon is a nazi”. Those people would be laughing at how dumb Elon is sounding, how naive he appears, and would be cheering on a mud fight between him and Fatso.

There is CNN the news org that will report on this, just like Fox News did. When reading, watching news it is on the viewer to be able to sift through opinion / infotainment in this day and age. For this specific story - Elon, the drug riddled spaz who canned a bunch of people after researching things for a couple hours, was given a standing ovation at the SotU for this work, etc who now has choice words for the budget that will add trillions to the debt it is a good news story.

When the talking head opinion shows come and discuss this, it is then where the viewers needs to understand it is as much for entertainment and shock value statements as it is for news. That is where you will get over the top, clickbait stuff.

[Fnord 2,135]

14 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

It's hilarious.   Seriously.   this guy was hated, and I mean despised by the left....now, they are back to loving him.

I have not seen this memo. Elon is forever tarnished IMO. He can fock right off.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

I have not seen this memo. Elon is forever tarnished IMO. He can fock right off.

As she storms out. 

[Mike Honcho 5,230]

14 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

It always has been.   But why would CNN use his opinion, a guy who uses nazi salutes, to bolster their argument when there are literally hundreds of others, who are not nazis, who also disagree?  Why would they want to tell us what a nazi thinks?  

Because he gave Trump almost 300 million to get him elected.  You are being intentionally obtuse.

[supermike80 1,865]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

There are the screaming head shows on CNN where some are “Elon is a nazi”. Those people would be laughing at how dumb Elon is sounding, how naive he appears, and would be cheering on a mud fight between him and Fatso.

There is CNN the news org that will report on this, just like Fox News did. When reading, watching news it is on the viewer to be able to sift through opinion / infotainment in this day and age. For this specific story - Elon, the drug riddled spaz who canned a bunch of people after researching things for a couple hours, was given a standing ovation at the SotU for this work, etc who now has choice words for the budget that will add trillions to the debt it is a good news story.

When the talking head opinion shows come and discuss this, it is then where the viewers needs to understand it is as much for entertainment and shock value statements as it is for news. That is where you will get over the top, clickbait stuff.

Andddd...this post, in a nutshell, completely shows how guys like you, TImmy, Squish, don't have any idea how the media works and how they try to manipulate you.

[Ron_Artest 1,222]

48 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So, can we assume that Musk is one again a "good guy", or will you need something else from him to restore that mantle?

I don't operate in such simplistic terms but in general.no I don't consider musk a "good guy" even if he makes an apparent break from maga.  He's still a broken drug addled lunatic.

[Ron_Artest 1,222]

47 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Walt a second, we were told my Gutterboy, MDC , Rusty and other board shitlibs that Elon would receive big government contracts along with other goodies for his work on doge from Trump.  Wrong again.  It never stops.  

Remains to be seen but if he's publicly going against trump you can assume trump will not give him any favors.

[RLLD 4,180]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I don't operate in such simplistic terms but in general.no I don't consider musk a "good guy" even if he makes an apparent break from maga.  He's still a broken drug addled lunatic.

Just checking......will circle back if he decides to continue being critical....without being "fettermen'ed".....

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

You people thought it was over for Trump in his first term when he had a falling out with Omarosa.  Shows what you clowns know. 

[MDC 7,223]

I didn’t say Musk would receive big federal contracts for his work on DOGE. I said he already received billions in contracts, which made his role on DOGE a conflict of interest. 

HTH