Israel attacks Iran UPDATE: Trump claims a cease fire among all countries

[lickin_starfish 1,937]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

On 6/22/2025 at 3:03 PM, Ron_Artest said:

Iran closing straight of Hormuz.

Awesome job trump.

Update? 

[seafoam1 3,025]

So what's going on with this thread. Liberals were crying a lot. Now what? 

[TimHauck 2,876]

Israel bombed the Syrian Defense Ministry in the country’s capital city of Damascus

https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1945471525336829982

 

 

[seafoam1 3,025]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Israel bombed the Syrian Defense Ministry in the country’s capital city of Damascus

https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1945471525336829982

 

 

Cool. Just like Ukraine, I have no interest in foreign wars. Let them kill each other. 

[Strike 5,547]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Israel bombed the Syrian Defense Ministry in the country’s capital city of Damascus

https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1945471525336829982

 

 

They're protecting a minority group that the Syrian military has recently started killing.  Why are you opposed to protecting innocent life?

[TimHauck 2,876]

36 minutes ago, Strike said:

They're protecting a minority group that the Syrian military has recently started killing.  Why are you opposed to protecting innocent life?

I didn’t offer an opinion, I just stated a fact.  But if you’re asking, hopefully there were no civilians injured in this attack.  You know, “protecting innocent life” and all.

[seafoam1 3,025]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I didn’t offer an opinion, I just stated a fact.  But if you’re asking, hopefully there were no civilians injured in this attack.  You know, “protecting innocent life” and all.

People are laughing at you. For good reason. You know this , right? 

[HellToupee 1,776]

I stand with the Druze people 

[TimHauck 2,876]

66-year old Palestinian grandmother was shot in the head by Israeli police while standing on her rooftop in the West Bank.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israeli-forces-shoot-dead-66-year-old-palestinian-woman-during-raid-on-her-home-in-east-jerusalem/ar-AA1Hpm7L
 

 

[TimHauck 2,876]

On 7/13/2025 at 11:54 AM, Gepetto said:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/12/middleeast/american-killed-israeli-settlers-west-bank-intl

Palestinian-American beaten to death by Israeli settlers in occupied West Bank, another man shot dead, health ministry says

There’s a poster of him and the Hamas logo, @Strike and @jerryskids will think he was Hamas

[seafoam1 3,025]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

66-year old Palestinian grandmother was shot in the head by Israeli police while standing on her rooftop in the West Bank.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israeli-forces-shoot-dead-66-year-old-palestinian-woman-during-raid-on-her-home-in-east-jerusalem/ar-AA1Hpm7L
 

 

Yeah, it's real normal being on the roof and posing no threat. 

[jerryskids 6,799]

18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

There’s a poster of him and the Hamas logo, @Strike and @jerryskids will think he was Hamas

I told you I'm on vacation. Stop tagging me ya focking tard.

Some Israelis allegedly killed this guy, is that a war crime now? You got your ass kicked posting Hamas Harry tweets via DropDeadRepressedNews and you are spraying shotgun blasts all over the wall hoping to yip yip your way to some small victory which continues to elude you.

Seek help, seriously. 

[TimHauck 2,876]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I told you I'm on vacation. Stop tagging me ya focking tard.

Some Israelis allegedly killed this guy, is that a war crime now? You got your ass kicked posting Hamas Harry tweets via DropDeadRepressedNews and you are spraying shotgun blasts all over the wall hoping to yip yip your way to some small victory which continues to elude you.

Seek help, seriously. 

There are allegations that the Israeli military was involved in blocking ambulance access to this man, may not have just been a couple rogue Israelis.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/14/middleeast/palestinian-american-beaten-funeral-intl

I’m sorry you won’t believe anything that contradicts what the IDF tells you, so you think anything that makes Israel look bad is made up.

[seafoam1 3,025]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

There are allegations that the Israeli military was involved in blocking ambulance access to this man, may not have just been a couple rogue Israelis.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/14/middleeast/palestinian-american-beaten-funeral-intl

I’m sorry you won’t believe anything that contradicts what the IDF tells you, so you think anything that makes Israel look bad is made up.

cnn backing allegations from violent extremists is all you got?

Holy crap, you will believe anything the liberal collective tells you to believe.

[jerryskids 6,799]

8 hours ago, TimHauck said:

There are allegations that the Israeli military was involved in blocking ambulance access to this man, may not have just been a couple rogue Israelis.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/14/middleeast/palestinian-american-beaten-funeral-intl

I’m sorry you won’t believe anything that contradicts what the IDF tells you, so you think anything that makes Israel look bad is made up.

Allegations! Your zealotry is sad. I stand by my post, including the plea that you seek help.

[TimHauck 2,876]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Allegations! Your zealotry is sad. I stand by my post, including the plea that you seek help.

Yes, allegations.  I don’t automatically 100% believe everything that agrees with my opinion like you do.

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Allegations! Your zealotry is sad. I stand by my post, including the plea that you seek help.

Jerry, given the government currently in power in Israel it’s all too easy to believe that the IDF is behaving badly at times. That’s not zealotry, it’s common sense. It doesn’t justify bad behavior on the other side (usually far worse.) 

[TimHauck 2,876]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Allegations! Your zealotry is sad. I stand by my post, including the plea that you seek help.

Also, seems confirmed that an ambulance was prevented from accessing the victim.  What’s not confirmed is who blocked it.  I’m sure you think it was Hamas

[jerryskids 6,799]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Jerry, given the government currently in power in Israel it’s all too easy to believe that the IDF is behaving badly at times. That’s not zealotry, it’s common sense. It doesn’t justify bad behavior on the other side (usually far worse.) 

I have no doubt that there are individual, isolated incidents of bad behavior by Israeli soldiers.  That always happens.  But you must not be following this.  TimHauck asserted that there were several systemic war crimes being ordered and endorsed by Israel.  His evidence is a handful of woefully pathetic sites which are mouthpieces for Hamas Harry.  

TimH is a yip yip dog who never gives up until he finds a win, and he has spent the past few weeks scouring the internet trying to find something to get that win.  The laughable thing is that he actually thinks he is the unbiased one who just happens to believe everything Hamas Harry tells him, while I am the zealot for erring on the side of Israel (vs. Hamas) in the absence of any actual evidence.  Especially since I've told him that at the beginning I expected him to actually have something worth discussing, and that our conversation would turn to one of moral relativism.  Instead, the conversation has been how he has been gaslit by Hamas Harry and the MSM which desperately wants to paint Israel as the bad guy who is helping Palestinians get the aid that UNRWA and Hamas were denying them.

I know that you, like him, are a Jew who hates Israel, so I don't expect you to side with me.  Just giving you the summary.   

[TimHauck 2,876]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I have no doubt that there are individual, isolated incidents of bad behavior by Israeli soldiers.  That always happens.  But you must not be following this.  TimHauck asserted that there were several systemic war crimes being ordered and endorsed by Israel.  His evidence is a handful of woefully pathetic sites which are mouthpieces for Hamas Harry.  

TimH is a yip yip dog who never gives up until he finds a win, and he has spent the past few weeks scouring the internet trying to find something to get that win.  The laughable thing is that he actually thinks he is the unbiased one who just happens to believe everything Hamas Harry tells him, while I am the zealot for erring on the side of Israel (vs. Hamas) in the absence of any actual evidence.  Especially since I've told him that at the beginning I expected him to actually have something worth discussing, and that our conversation would turn to one of moral relativism.  Instead, the conversation has been how he has been gaslit by Hamas Harry and the MSM which desperately wants to paint Israel as the bad guy who is helping Palestinians get the aid that UNRWA and Hamas were denying them.

I know that you, like him, are a Jew who hates Israel, so I don't expect you to side with me.  Just giving you the summary.   

One of the first examples I provided you was Israel admitting to blowing up an ambulance.  Not my fault you believed them that “it was an accident.”  They’ve also admitted to targeting and intentionally killing journalists.  Not my fault you believed them that “they were Hamas.”  You then got hung up on the aid site thing, demanding video of someone being shot by a uniformed IDF officer.  You got me, that video doesn’t seem to exist, but there are now multiple IDF whistleblowers on record that they shot towards civilians waiting for aid, as well as audio of an American celebrating “getting one”

[Strike 5,547]

Just now, TimHauck said:

One of the first examples I provided you was Israel admitting to blowing up an ambulance.  Not my fault you believed them that “it was an accident.”  They’ve also admitted to targeting and intentionally killing journalists.  Not my fault you believed them that “they were Hamas.”  You then got hung up on the aid site thing, demanding video of someone being shot by a uniformed IDF officer.  You got me, that video doesn’t seem to exist, but there are now multiple IDF whistleblowers on record that they shot towards civilians waiting for aid, as well as audio of an American celebrating that happening.  

Yeah, TWO HUNDRED journalists!!!!  Or was it THREE?   Or was it ONE?  What is the current number?

[jerryskids 6,799]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

One of the first examples I provided you was Israel admitting to blowing up an ambulance.  Not my fault you believed them that “it was an accident.”  They’ve also admitted to targeting and intentionally killing journalists.  Not my fault you believed them that “they were Hamas.”  You then got hung up on the aid site thing, demanding video of someone being shot by a uniformed IDF officer.  You got me, that video doesn’t seem to exist, but there are now multiple IDF whistleblowers on record that they shot towards civilians waiting for aid, as well as audio of an American celebrating “getting one”

Did IDF leadership tell them to target that specific ambulance, or just to find any old ambulance to blow up on purpose?  Did they target one with little old ladies and children?  You seem so sure that this was on purpose, we look forward to learning more.

Strike already covered the journalists.

Americans?  Focus Tim, your assertion is systemic war crimes by Israel.

You don't even know what your are arguing any more  You are like Al Pacino at the end of Scarface, yelling "say hello to my little friend!" while spraying bullets all over the place.   

[TimHauck 2,876]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Did IDF leadership tell them to target that specific ambulance, or just to find any old ambulance to blow up on purpose?  Did they target one with little old ladies and children?  You seem so sure that this was on purpose, we look forward to learning more.

Strike already covered the journalists.

Americans?  Focus Tim, your assertion is systemic war crimes by Israel.

You don't even know what your are arguing any more  You are like Al Pacino at the end of Scarface, yelling "say hello to my little friend!" while spraying bullets all over the place.   

@Strike didn’t “cover” the journalists, he exaggerated what I said for effect.  Of course if I do that to him he calls me a liar.  The initial story I posted was just about one guy which the IDF admitted to killing, they just claimed he was Hamas.  They even attacked a different one twice, killing him while he was recovering in the hospital from the first attack.

Stop cherry-picking.  I clearly also pointed out there have been multiple IDF whistleblowers.  

The ambulance bombing is systemic of the IDF’s deliberate targeting of medical professionals.  There is now a full documentary on this subject (which surely you’ll call Hamas propaganda).  They recently blew up a home (not Hamas hiding in tunnels), killing a doctor and his wife and children.  But you and @Strike think their goal is to “protect innocent lives.”   

https://x.com/mercindonesia/status/1940698827230793743

Again, I don’t think what they’re doing is genocide as they have a tactical reason to target doctors and journalists, but they are certainly not “protecting innocent lives.”

 

[Strike 5,547]

14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

@Strike didn’t “cover” the journalists, he exaggerated what I said for effect.  Of course if I do that to him he calls me a liar.  The initial story I posted was just about one guy which the IDF admitted to killing, they just claimed he was Hamas.  They even attacked a different one twice, killing him while he was recovering in the hospital from the first attack.

Stop cherry-picking.  I clearly also pointed out there have been multiple IDF whistleblowers.  

The ambulance bombing is systemic of the IDF’s deliberate targeting of medical professionals.  There is now a full documentary on this subject (which surely you’ll call Hamas propaganda).  They recently blew up a home (not Hamas hiding in tunnels), killing a doctor and his wife and children.  But you and @Strike think their goal is to “protect innocent lives.”   

https://x.com/mercindonesia/status/1940698827230793743

Again, I don’t think what they’re doing is genocide as they have a tactical reason to target doctors and journalists, but they are certainly not “protecting innocent lives.”

 

We went through the journalist thing in a very detailed manner.  You were not able to support your assertion that multiple had been killed, and certainly didn't have evidence that there was any targeting of journalists.  You kept changing the number - First it was 200, then it was 3, and finally it was maybe 1.  So just stop it with the journalists.

I have never said it was anyone's goal to "protect innocent lives."  Israel's goal is to protect Israel and Israeli lives.  In doing so, they are not specifically targeting innocent people but do their best to avoid the loss of life of innocent people.  But they, like Jerry and myself, understand that in WAR sometimes innocent life gets lost.  You are taking a childish, utopian view that you can wage WAR and not have one innocent life lost.  That's certainly possible but I'm not sure it's ever happened in significant armed combat.  It's like you want WAR to look like a movie called "Logans Run" where when people turned 35 years old IIRC they would just walk in to a human disintegrating machine and let themselves be killed because that's how that society facilitated population control.  In real world WAR, people don't just let themselves be killed so loss of innocent life can be avoided.  

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I have no doubt that there are individual, isolated incidents of bad behavior by Israeli soldiers.  That always happens.  But you must not be following this.  TimHauck asserted that there were several systemic war crimes being ordered and endorsed by Israel.  His evidence is a handful of woefully pathetic sites which are mouthpieces for Hamas Harry.  

TimH is a yip yip dog who never gives up until he finds a win, and he has spent the past few weeks scouring the internet trying to find something to get that win.  The laughable thing is that he actually thinks he is the unbiased one who just happens to believe everything Hamas Harry tells him, while I am the zealot for erring on the side of Israel (vs. Hamas) in the absence of any actual evidence.  Especially since I've told him that at the beginning I expected him to actually have something worth discussing, and that our conversation would turn to one of moral relativism.  Instead, the conversation has been how he has been gaslit by Hamas Harry and the MSM which desperately wants to paint Israel as the bad guy who is helping Palestinians get the aid that UNRWA and Hamas were denying them.

I know that you, like him, are a Jew who hates Israel, so I don't expect you to side with me.  Just giving you the summary.   

I certainly don’t hate Israel. I have family there. I have friends who have served in the IDF. I’ve supported Israel my entire life. I am not, however, a supporter of Bibi or the far right coalition currently in power. 

[TimHauck 2,876]

34 minutes ago, Strike said:

We went through the journalist thing in a very detailed manner.  You were not able to support your assertion that multiple had been killed, and certainly didn't have evidence that there was any targeting of journalists.  You kept changing the number - First it was 200, then it was 3, and finally it was maybe 1.  So just stop it with the journalists.

Now you’re just lying. It wasn’t “first 200.”  It was first about one in particular, where there was evidence he was specifically targeted because of his journalism.  I did say 200 later, but never said they were all innocent.  

There is most certainly evidence they were targeting journalists, but when they actually admit they just say they were Hamas and you and @jerryskids just lap it up.

Here was the initial article I shared.  @jerryskids immediately discarded it because it was from a news site called “Middle East Eye” (which apparently is owned by a UK company actually).  The IDF wouldn’t admit to this one that I saw.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/palestinian-journalist-killed-israeli-bombing-after-receiving-threats-end-gaza-coverage

Here’s one where they attacked the same journalist on 2 different occasions, killing him while he was in the hospital.  This one they admitted to, claiming he was Hamas:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-strike-kills-palestinian-journalist-receiving-treatment-gaza-hospital

Just google IDF kills journalist and you will get lots of results.

Here they killed 5 at once in a van.  Claim they were terrorists:

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2024/12/26/israel-kills-five-palestinian-journalists-in-attack-on-media-van
 

Since @jerryskids likes commenting about “why are they all young males?” here’s a female journalist they killed along with her husband and 2 children.  Can we count them in the total too?

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-israel-kills-journalist-and-her-family-strike-their-home

Here’s a female journalist in Syria that was killed:

https://www.9news.com.au/world/safaa-ahmed-well-known-television-anchor-killed-in-israeli-strike-on-syria/559a5011-02fc-45d0-bd71-140da03b04a5
 

 

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

I have never said it was anyone's goal to "protect innocent lives."  Israel's goal is to protect Israel and Israeli lives.  

 

On 7/16/2025 at 2:37 PM, Strike said:

They're protecting a minority group that the Syrian military has recently started killing.  Why are you opposed to protecting innocent life?

@Strike wrong again.

[Strike 5,547]

middleeasteye.net????

[Strike 5,547]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

 

@Strike wrong again.

FFS we weren't talking about the group in Syria.  You love to intertwine separate discussions and use that for gotchas.  GTFOH.  You are not a serious poster.  I should have taken you at your word this morning when you admitted all you are doing nowadays is trolling.  

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

middleeasteye.net????

Yeah, it’s a news organization based in the Middle East, you know, that place where the war is occurring?  Do you think they’re faking people’s deaths or something?

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

FFS we weren't talking about the group in Syria.  You love to intertwine separate discussions and use that for gotchas.  GTFOH.  You are not a serious poster.  I should have taken you at your word this morning when you admitted all you are doing nowadays is trolling.  

“Intertwining separate discussions” just proves your hypocrisy.  HTH.  You defend Israel bombing a capital city because “they wanted to protect innocent lives.”  But are OK with them killing innocent lives because eh, war sucks sometimes.

 

[seafoam1 3,025]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

“Intertwining separate discussions” just proves your hypocrisy.  HTH.  You defend Israel bombing a capital city because “they wanted to protect innocent lives.”  But are OK with them killing innocent lives because eh, war sucks sometimes.

 

Poor peetim. He's hurting. 

[Strike 5,547]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

“Intertwining separate discussions” just proves your hypocrisy.  HTH.  You defend Israel bombing a capital city because “they wanted to protect innocent lives.”  But are OK with them killing innocent lives because eh, war sucks sometimes.

 

I'm just gonna have to make some macros since you just like to regurgitate the same discussions OVER and OVER:

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I have never said it was anyone's goal to "protect innocent lives."  Israel's goal is to protect Israel and Israeli lives.  In doing so, they are not specifically targeting innocent people but do their best to avoid the loss of life of innocent people.  But they, like Jerry and myself, understand that in WAR sometimes innocent life gets lost.  You are taking a childish, utopian view that you can wage WAR and not have one innocent life lost.  That's certainly possible but I'm not sure it's ever happened in significant armed combat.  It's like you want WAR to look like a movie called "Logans Run" where when people turned 35 years old IIRC they would just walk in to a human disintegrating machine and let themselves be killed because that's how that society facilitated population control.  In real world WAR, people don't just let themselves be killed so loss of innocent life can be avoided.  

 

 

[Strike 5,547]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Poor peetim. He's hurting. 

It's pathetic.

[HellToupee 1,776]

Ok these cack smoking Israelis hit a Catholic Church weepy style

 

Thank God the Boss is on this 

 

Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt has revealed that Donald Trump called Benjamin Netanyahu after today's attack on Holy Family Catholic Church 

Trump was not impressed and it appears as though Netanyahu only agreed for the IDF to release a statement after the call

[Strike 5,547]

19 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Now you’re just lying. It wasn’t “first 200.”  It was first about one in particular, where there was evidence he was specifically targeted because of his journalism.  I did say 200 later, but never said they were all innocent.   

 

So your complaint about my recollection of our discussion about journalists isn't that you bounced all over the place on the number of journalists, which you acknowledge doing in the quote above, but the fact that I said it was 200 first and one later instead of one first and 200 later?  Are you focking kidding me?  

[TimHauck 2,876]

11 minutes ago, Strike said:

I'm just gonna have to make some macros since you just like to regurgitate the same discussions OVER and OVER:

 

 

Thanks for confirming I correctly paraphrased your opinion.

And there you go lying again.  I don’t expect there to be “not one innocent life lost.”

But I also don’t expect them to intentionally target innocent lives.  Any thoughts on this murder of a doctor and his family in their home?

https://x.com/mercindonesia/status/1940698827230793743
 

 

[TimHauck 2,876]

3 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Ok these cack smoking Israelis hit a Catholic Church weepy style

 

Thank God the Boss is on this 

 

Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt has revealed that Donald Trump called Benjamin Netanyahu after today's attack on Holy Family Catholic Church 

Trump was not impressed and it appears as though Netanyahu only agreed for the IDF to release a statement after the call

Ruh roh, people might care now!

[TimHauck 2,876]

4 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Ok these cack smoking Israelis hit a Catholic Church weepy style

 

Thank God the Boss is on this 

 

Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt has revealed that Donald Trump called Benjamin Netanyahu after today's attack on Holy Family Catholic Church 

Trump was not impressed and it appears as though Netanyahu only agreed for the IDF to release a statement after the call

Another “mistake,” lol