Maximum Overkill 2,032 Posted Tuesday at 08:55 PM 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: The first one came after tallying over 400 touches in 2019. He got injured. 10 touches or 400, anyone can get hurt. Kenneth Walker is hurt, he hasn't taken a snap this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,560 Posted Tuesday at 08:56 PM 7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: He got injured. 10 touches or 400, anyone can get hurt. Kenneth Walker is hurt, he hasn't taken a snap this season. That's right, anyone can get hurt... but 400 touches seems to be a better predictor than saying "anyone"... because "anyone", isn't specific. Also, it isn't just injuries either, sometimes it just works out that way. On top of that, teams that go to the Super Bowl can have lesser years the following year. It happened to the Eagles just 2 years ago. Happened to the Rams 3 years ago. Combine that with a 400 (almost 500), touch RB, I'd temper my expectations. He still might be a top 10 back... let's say he's #7. Why take him 1st, 2nd, or 3rd when 6 guys are going to outscore him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,215 Posted Tuesday at 08:58 PM Age and workload that create a situation where a rb can hot the wall. It’s no biggie. I don’t think Barkley his that wall this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 256 Posted Tuesday at 09:11 PM The other risk with Barkley is that teams now have an entire season of film to see how the Eagles were able to get him free. I was continually amazed at how easily he was able to roam through defenses last season. It could be that the Eagles were just more talented, but everyone is now another year older and you've got to think that teams are going target stopping Barkley. Every season is different and eventually defensives adjust to counter the latest offensive success. To assume last season's production will simply be repeated is foolish. In fantasy football, nothing is a slam dunk, so as mentioned earlier, it would be perfectly reasonable to consider taking players like Gibbs, Bijan, JJ and Chase ahead of Barkley. I think those are the consensus top 5 in most drafts. There is true value to be leveraged if any of those five somehow drop into the bottom half of the first round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,215 Posted Tuesday at 09:15 PM Wouldn’t teams also know how the Falcons and Lions use B Robinson and Gibbs, just like they have tape on Barkley, or is that just used on Barkley? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 256 Posted Tuesday at 09:18 PM 1 minute ago, weepaws said: Wouldn’t teams also know how the Falcons and Lions use B Robinson and Gibbs, just like they have tape on Barkley, or is that just used on Barkley? Winning a Super Bowl and having one of the best rushing seasons ever puts a bit larger target on your back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,215 Posted Tuesday at 09:21 PM 1 minute ago, Showboat said: Winning a Super Bowl and having one of the best rushing seasons ever puts a bit larger target on your back. Both of the other two had their best seasons, I would think teams would be studying how to beat those two teams by watching film on both Robinson and Gibbs just the same, I’m just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,699 Posted Wednesday at 06:49 AM This thread is really giving me concern about Barkley. Way too many people are just sure that Barkley will be just as good as last year since he was so good last year like people don't have up and down years or something. No player has had consecutive 2000 yard seasons. Only nine players including Barkley have had a single 2000 yard season. It's madness to assume Barkley is just going to repeat that career year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,215 Posted Wednesday at 07:08 AM If he does that would be great, if he doesn’t , he’s still the top rb on my board. And he’s still nobody’s top rb on his board, he said he would only take Chase before him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,032 Posted Wednesday at 10:08 AM 12 hours ago, Showboat said: Winning a Super Bowl and having one of the best rushing seasons ever puts a bit larger target on your back. Did you happen to watch the Superbowl when Andy Reid decided to focus on Barkley? How did that go for KC? So they'll stack the box so AJ, Devonta, Goedertt and Barkley go off in the passing game instead? If that happens then Hurts is going to run for 1,000. Nothing is going to change for Barkley, he'll still have massive rushing lanes. You can expect a natural regression, that's normal after having the greatest season in history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 756 Posted Wednesday at 03:24 PM 18 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: And CMC didn't hit a wall. He got plagued by injuries, severe injuries. historically when a RB has over 400 touches and then doesnt produce at nearly the level the next year.... it is usually because they got hurt. just putting that one out there for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,786 Posted Wednesday at 03:31 PM the thread itself is a bit silly because again, no one is sleeping on Barkley. He still should be drafted as a top 5, probably top 3 fantasy RB. Can easily be picked #1 overall, could easily go #6. The smart money would be on him not reaching 2024 numbers, obviously. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,032 Posted Wednesday at 09:13 PM 5 hours ago, Ray_T said: historically when a RB has over 400 touches and then doesnt produce at nearly the level the next year.... it is usually because they got hurt. just putting that one out there for you. It's a BS stat. Did he get hurt because of the 400 touches or did he just get hurt? Players get hurt, especially RBs. It's almost as if people are looking for a stat. It happens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,699 Posted Wednesday at 10:02 PM There is a clear correlation between a lot of touches and getting injured. RBs clearly get injured at a higher rate after 370+ carry seasons than average injury numbers. It's a pretty well known phenomenon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 608 Posted Wednesday at 11:48 PM Barkley is definitely riskier than a lot of other guys. Even before last year's workload he got hurt all the time with the Giants. Many fantasy owners are looking for the highest floor guy they can find when picking in the top 5 or top 3. Others, myself included, are willing to say screw it, I am taking the best player carries be damned... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,032 Posted yesterday at 09:35 AM Since Barkley has 1 foot in the grave I'm guessing that everyone is high on Shipley? He should be the ultimate cuff, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,699 Posted 17 hours ago He would be if he was a good runningback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
