Another month of controlled inflation

[Strike 5,684]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

conservative policy? Ah, no.

I'm sorry but you are not making any sense, much like the market.  Businesses coming back in droves?  Investing in America unlike before?  You're making this all up.  This is stuff you hear on Conservative talk radio, but it's not true.  Tariffs working raises the market?  The exact opposite.

And yes the market has priced in a rate cut and likely 2 now.  If rates don't go down in September you will see quite the pullback.  The markets are not political.  In fact if you look at history the market, there is 5% greater return during Democratic terms than Republicans.

Lots of theories for what we're witnessing now,  but it's not anything you stated, I'm sorry.

So did you put all your money in to CD's after taking it out of the market?  

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

So did you put all your money in to CD's after taking it out of the market?  

I never took all of my money out of the market

I took some of the market to pay for college and add to the emergency fund, making 4.3%.  No regrets.  I have plenty still invested.

 

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

39 minutes ago, Horseman said:

He told everyone to get out. But since he was completely wrong he didn't really mean it. 

 

Guess what, he caved. TACO

[cyclone24 1,926]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

conservative policy? Ah, no.

I'm sorry but you are not making any sense, much like the market.  Businesses coming back in droves?  Investing in America unlike before?  You're making this all up.  This is stuff you hear on Conservative talk radio, but it's not true.  Tariffs working raises the market?  The exact opposite.

And yes the market has priced in a rate cut and likely 2 now.  If rates don't go down in September you will see quite the pullback.  The markets are not political.  In fact if you look at history the market, there is 5% greater return during Democratic terms than Republicans.

Lots of theories for what we're witnessing now,  but it's not anything you stated, I'm sorry.

So by every media outlet all these companies coming back investing billions of dollars is made up? That’s what you’re trying to go with here? 
 

All these trade deals that have been struck with countries and then flocking over here the last six months to do so. That’s all made up?

 

No venom here I’m not blasting you or anything, but I don’t think you can say the market surge we are seeing is because an anticipated rate drop that hasn’t happened.

I mean quite honestly, all of the things you guys said would happen never actually happened and quite the opposite

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

18 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

So by every media outlet all these companies coming back investing billions of dollars is made up? That’s what you’re trying to go with here? 
 

All these trade deals that have been struck with countries and then flocking over here the last six months to do so. That’s all made up?

 

No venom here I’m not blasting you or anything, but I don’t think you can say the market surge we are seeing is because an anticipated rate drop that hasn’t happened.

I mean quite honestly, all of the things you guys said would happen never actually happened and quite the opposite

Can you provide me some actual details of all these companies that left and are now coming back investing billions?  Or foreign countries flocking to the US as a result of trade deals?

Maybe I'm misinformed.  I haven't seen anything that you are talking about.  Please enlighten me.

I'll just add, in case you are frantically googling, I know this is what Donald Trump says, but it's not true.  He's senile old fool who lies about everything.  You're just repeating his lies.

[seafoam1 3,187]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Can you provide me some actual details of all these companies that left and are now coming back investing billions?  Or foreign countries flocking to the US as a result of trade deals?

Maybe I'm misinformed.  I haven't seen anything that you are talking about.  Please enlighten me.

You are nothing but misinformed and ignorant of the things you talk about. 

 

[Horseman 2,546]

17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Guess what, he caved. TACO

You're covered either way. If it goes horrible you told everyone to get out. If it goes well you didn't really get out. 

BS garbage poster.  

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

You're covered either way. If it goes horrible you told everyone to get out. If it goes well you didn't really get out. 

BS garbage poster.  

Coming from the guy who posts swastikas.  Means a lot.

[seafoam1 3,187]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You're covered either way. If it goes horrible you told everyone to get out. If it goes well you didn't really get out. 

BS garbage poster.  

That dope so full of shlt it's flowing out of his eyes. 

[Horseman 2,546]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Coming from the guy who posts swastikas.  Means a lot.

All time highs. Last chance to get out?!?!?!?!

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

All time highs. Last chance to get out?!?!?!?!

It might be a good time to dial back risk if you have any short term needs yes.

[Horseman 2,546]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

It might be a good time to dial back risk if you have any short term needs yes.

Get out before it's too late!!!!!  is now dial back risk a little bit.  Like I said BS garbage poster.   

 You should always have your asset allocation set to the risk you're comfortable with for your personal situation.  

Unless it's time to pull out!!!! 

[seafoam1 3,187]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Get out before it's too late!!!!!  is now dial back risk a little bit.  Like I said BS garbage poster.   

 You should always have your asset allocation set to the risk you're comfortable with for your personal situation.  

Unless it's time to pull out!!!! 

Like he did this past February.. 

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

Hedge funds dumping US Equities

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-01/hedge-funds-dump-us-stocks-seeing-risks-as-tariff-woes-linger

 

[Horseman 2,546]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Hedge funds dumping US Equities

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-01/hedge-funds-dump-us-stocks-seeing-risks-as-tariff-woes-linger

 

2 weeks ago missing another 5% run up.  

You are so foking stupid.  JFC.  Lololol

[Strike 5,684]

12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Hedge funds dumping US Equities

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-01/hedge-funds-dump-us-stocks-seeing-risks-as-tariff-woes-linger

 

Did you ever hear about the time Warren Buffett bet the Hedge Fund industry a million dollars he could beat them with a  simple index fund?  Yeah, I'm guessing not, or you wouldn't be using the Hedge Fund industry as some bellwether of good investment advice.

https://www.investopedia.com/warren-buffett-usd1-million-bet-8779290

[Horseman 2,546]

33 minutes ago, Strike said:

Did you ever hear about the time Warren Buffett bet the Hedge Fund industry a million dollars he could beat them with a  simple index fund?  Yeah, I'm guessing not, or you wouldn't be using the Hedge Fund industry as some bellwether of good investment advice.

https://www.investopedia.com/warren-buffett-usd1-million-bet-8779290

Yeah , I was going to go there but couldn't pass up the weeks old article proving them wrong first.

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Did you ever hear about the time Warren Buffett bet the Hedge Fund industry a million dollars he could beat them with a  simple index fund?  Yeah, I'm guessing not, or you wouldn't be using the Hedge Fund industry as some bellwether of good investment advice.

https://www.investopedia.com/warren-buffett-usd1-million-bet-8779290

Hedge funds aren't built to beat the index long term you dope.  It's literally in the name, hedge.

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

Also if you wanna tout Warren buffet, bro is sitting on a pile of cash and saying this market is way over bought.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/207-warren-buffett-indicator-says-065100545.html

 

[seafoam1 3,187]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Also if you wanna tout Warren buffet, bro is sitting on a pile of cash and saying this market is way over bought.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/207-warren-buffett-indicator-says-065100545.html

 

"Bro"..

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

2024 Maga: ATH in the market doesn't mean anything, economy is sh1t.

2025 Maga: economy is great!  Market is soaring!

 

[RLLD 4,272]

12 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Which random person on YouTube said this?

77,302,580 

[TimHauck 2,994]

9 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

2024 Maga: ATH in the market doesn't mean anything, economy is sh1t.

2025 Maga: economy is great!  Market is soaring!

 

Yup

[Horseman 2,546]

11 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Also if you wanna tout Warren buffet, bro is sitting on a pile of cash and saying this market is way over bought.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/207-warren-buffett-indicator-says-065100545.html

 

Motley Fool.

Every post is just dumber and dumber.  

[Horseman 2,546]

11 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Hedge funds aren't built to beat the index long term you dope.  It's literally in the name, hedge.

Are you foking retarded?  Seriously?  A hedge fund #1 goal is to seek higher returns. JFC.

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

20 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Are you foking retarded?  Seriously?  A hedge fund #1 goal is to seek higher returns. JFC.

Not always.  Like any actively managed fund, the goals can vary.  Some try to beat the market, others are capital preservation, but many are looking for low beta returns.  They are called hedge funds because they using hedging strategies to protect downside risk, sometime sacrificing upside risk.  Wealthy investors will diversify with hedge funds for the allure to get a high return but also for the safety of avoiding downside risk.  If you're not familiar with hedging you can google it.

For hedge funds whose strategy is higher return that indices, the managers have to be really really good, because the fees are high, 2% base plus upwards to 20% of profit.  That's one of the reasons why most hedge funds don't beat indices as someone else pointed out.

You've probably never even talked to a hedge fund manager.  You should probably educate yourself before you call people the r-word in the future.

[Strike 5,684]

20 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Are you foking retarded?  Seriously?  A hedge fund #1 goal is to seek higher returns. JFC.

It explains a lot actually.  Gutter is happy with 2.2% gains instead of the double digits Buffett got by simply parking his money in an index fund.

[Strike 5,684]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Not always.  Like any actively managed fund, the goals can vary.  Some try to beat the market, others are capital preservation, but many are looking for low beta returns.  They are called hedge funds because they using hedging strategies to protect downside risk, sometime sacrificing upside risk.  Wealthy investors will diversify with hedge funds for the allure to get a high return but also for the safety of avoiding downside risk.  If you're not familiar with hedging you can google it.

For hedge funds whose strategy is higher return that indices, the managers have to be really really good, because the fees are high, 2% base plus upwards to 20% of profit.  That's one of the reasons why most hedge funds don't beat indices as someone else pointed out.

You've probably never even talked to a hedge fund manager.  You should probably educate yourself before you call people the r-word in the future.

Not in the case cited.  No one should EVER be happy with 2.2% returns.  You defending it tells us all we need to know 

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

It explains a lot actually.  Gutter is happy with 2.2% gains instead of the double digits Buffett got by simply parking his money in an index fund.

 

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Not in the case cited.  No one should EVER be happy with 2.2% returns.  You defending it tells us all we need to know 

What are you talking about 2.2% returns?  I would never be happy with that.  It's lower than inflation.

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

On 8/12/2025 at 11:19 AM, supermike80 said:

Energy down.  Food flat.  Housing down.   These tariffs are killing us!!!

One more month passed until the end of the world economy as we know it.   Whew!

Wholesale prices rose far more than expected in July, providing a potential sign that inflation is still a threat to the U.S. economy, a Bureau of Labor Statistics report Thursday showed.

The producer price index, which measures final demand goods and services prices, jumped 0.9% on the month, compared to the Dow Jones estimate for a 0.2% gain. It was the biggest monthly gain since June 2022.

Excluding food and energy prices, core PPI rose 0.9% against the forecast for 0.3%. Excluding food, energy and trade services, the index was up 0.6%, the biggest gain since March 2022.

On an annual basis, headline PPI increased 3.3%, the biggest 12-month move since February and well above the Fed’s 2% inflation target.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/14/ppi-inflation-report-july-2025-.html

[iam90sbaby 2,644]

Man, whenever this Ron guy tries to talk money he sounds like a focking retard. 

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

Man, whenever this Ron guy tries to talk money he sounds like a focking retard. 

Feel free to correct me, but I know you can't, which is why you just throw insults and run away.

[Horseman 2,546]

6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Not always.  Like any actively managed fund, the goals can vary.  Some try to beat the market, others are capital preservation, but many are looking for low beta returns.  They are called hedge funds because they using hedging strategies to protect downside risk, sometime sacrificing upside risk.  Wealthy investors will diversify with hedge funds for the allure to get a high return but also for the safety of avoiding downside risk.  If you're not familiar with hedging you can google it.

For hedge funds whose strategy is higher return that indices, the managers have to be really really good, because the fees are high, 2% base plus upwards to 20% of profit.  That's one of the reasons why most hedge funds don't beat indices as someone else pointed out.

You've probably never even talked to a hedge fund manager.  You should probably educate yourself before you call people the r-word in the future.

Not always!!!!

Foking #1 goal is to make money dumbass and when Strike brought up Buffet what do YOU think the purpose of the contest was?  You've wondered off into one of your autistic semantic game arguments again that's completely off the point. Foking mental midget.   

[Horseman 2,546]

2 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Man, whenever this Ron guy tries to talk money he sounds like a focking retard. 

. It's unbelievable. Doubling down on dumb over and over. 

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

Just now, Horseman said:

Not always!!!!

Foking #1 goal is to make money dumbass and when Strike brought up Buffet what do YOU think the purpose of the contest was?  You've wondered off into one of your autistic semantic game arguments again that's completely off the point. Foking mental midget.   

OK so now you've switch from the goal is to beat the market to now the goal is to make money.  Which is the point you're trying to argue?  Stick to one.

[Horseman 2,546]

9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

What are you talking about 2.2% returns?  I would never be happy with that.  It's lower than inflation.

Holy foking chiiiiiit.

It's literally the results of the Buffett bet you're arguing against.  You'd never settle for it but you've been arguing for it for the last half an hour. 

Time to take a break bud.  

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

12 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Holy foking chiiiiiit.

It's literally the results of the Buffett bet you're arguing against.  You'd never settle for it but you've been arguing for it for the last half an hour. 

Time to take a break bud.  

Where did I argue against Buffett?  Where did I argue against index investing?  You're hysterical.

You do this all the time.  You can't read or comprehend very well.  You make up posts that you think people said and then post a zillion laughing emojis and a trophy saying you won.

But you are once again, wrong.  I have never invested in a hedge fund, I'm not wealthy enough to be able to invest in hedge funds, I have no interest in investing in hedge funds, people who do invest in hedge funds don't put everything they have in them.  Your whole basis is fantasy.

Go ahead and tell me you love my third grade summaries, say that I'm triggered, and run away, like you always do when you post a bunch of gibberish and get called out on it and humiliated.

[Strike 5,684]

28 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

What are you talking about 2.2% returns?  I would never be happy with that.  It's lower than inflation.

So you didn't read the link I posted.  

[Ron_Artest 1,667]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

So you didn't read the link I posted.  

Yes, I see the 2.2% return for the hedge fund guy, but why would you think I'm defending the hedge fund guy in a bet with Buffett?  Where have I stated that hedge funds offer a better return that indices?

[Strike 5,684]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

Yes, I see the 2.2% return for the hedge fund guy, but why would you think I'm defending the hedge fund guy in a bet with Buffett?  Where have I stated that hedge funds offer a better return that indices?

Sorry man.  This is idiotic.  There was a time a couple decades ago that I actually thought you were a smart guy but you've either been eating retard pills or TDS has rotted your brain.  Either way, all you do now is argue, usually from a position of utter stupidity, and try to drag it out forever like Hackboy.  I got better things to do.  Have a good day and watch your diet.