Another month of controlled inflation

[Ron_Artest 1,665]

1 hour ago, BudBro said:

I can't remember all the details, but I thought the Fed could remove cash from the economy to lower inflation.  However, the M2 money supply is higher than it has ever been.  Econ majors please chime in.  It just seems like inflation is always going to rise.  More people buying and only a limited supply of everything means prices have to go up, always.  Lowering the "Fed rate" just means refi volume will increase, but nobody is going to sell and move up because they lose the equity they gained.  Real inflation seems more like 15%. 

Inflation is not inherently bad as long as income rises too.  Target inflation is 2%.  You want growth.  You don't want deflation.  Prices coming down due to contraction.  We saw this in 2009.

[RLLD 4,272]

15 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Consumer sentiment is lower now than a year ago.

Trump has a 40% approval rating on the economy.

People do not think it's better except you.

Nah, people seem to be happier about it.  I get that the legacy media is working the polling as they always do.  But at least folks seem to now care about people, and I really take heart that this is now happening.

[Ron_Artest 1,665]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Nah, people seem to be happier about it.  I get that the legacy media is working the polling as they always do.  But at least folks seem to now care about people, and I really take heart that this is now happening.

you think this admin cares about people.

[cyclone24 1,925]

40 minutes ago, MDC said:

Every poll I’ve seen has Trump underwater. What’s more likely?

a) Voters are upset about persistent higher prices and fed up with the Reality TV clownshow atmosphere of the WH.

b) All polls are lying.

Im guessing you pick b? 

Well, what’s more likely. The CPI and the people that do this for living with the market are all wrong or that you guys are right?
 

I’ll take what the markets doing and what businesses are doing and what countries are doing long before I listen to what Democrats think of it. 
 

 

[Ron_Artest 1,665]

4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Well, what’s more likely. The CPI and the people that do this for living with the market are all wrong or that you guys are right?
 

I’ll take what the markets doing and what businesses are doing and what countries are doing long before I listen to what Democrats think of it. 
 

 

The market does not dictate the economy.

Right now the market is betting on a couple of rate cuts and the tariffs being pulled back.

What are businesses doing? They're waiting, they're not hiring, they are eating the tariffs.  What is Warren buffet doing, hoarding cash.  What are countries doing?  Trading with each other, without us.

It's not Republicans vs Democrats

[MDC 7,546]

10 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Well, what’s more likely. The CPI and the people that do this for living with the market are all wrong or that you guys are right?
 

I’ll take what the markets doing and what businesses are doing and what countries are doing long before I listen to what Democrats think of it. 
 

 

I’ll put you down for b.  

[The Real timschochet 6,938]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Nah, people seem to be happier about it.  I get that the legacy media is working the polling as they always do.  But at least folks seem to now care about people, and I really take heart that this is now happening.

@RLLD I’d like you to predict what’s going to happen in next years election. Everyone knows what I think: that there’s going to be a huge blue wave because of voter dissatisfaction with the tariffs, inflation, and Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill. I think you would agree with me that elections are the only polls that truly matter? So if you think people are happy with Trump, how do you predict the election will play out? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,201]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

@RLLD I’d like you to predict what’s going to happen in next years election. Everyone knows what I think: that there’s going to be a huge blue wave because of voter dissatisfaction with the tariffs, inflation, and Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill. I think you would agree with me that elections are the only polls that truly matter? So if you think people are happy with Trump, how do you predict the election will play out? 

Red Tsunami.  Your side of the aisle continues to move further and further crazy left.  It's going to need a name change soon when you merge with the Communist Party USA.  Your fear-mongering and hysteria over things that aren't even real is just that:  fear-mongering.

Democrats offer nothing to voters anymore.  All you have left is the monolithic black voting block.  Once that goes - and it IS going slowly but surely - you won't win another election.

I say we just put all Democrats in New York and seal it off Escape from New York style since most of your cities look like that anyways.

[The Real timschochet 6,938]

5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Red Tsunami.  Your side of the aisle continues to move further and further crazy left.  It's going to need a name change soon when you merge with the Communist Party USA.  Your fear-mongering and hysteria over things that aren't even real is just that:  fear-mongering.

Democrats offer nothing to voters anymore.  All you have left is the monolithic black voting block.  Once that goes - and it IS going slowly but surely - you won't win another election.

I say we just put all Democrats in New York and seal it off Escape from New York style since most of your cities look like that anyways.

OK so you are predicting a red tsunami. I will mark it down. Let’s see what happens. 

[The Real timschochet 6,938]

Goldman Sachs analyst predicts tarrifs will create rising prices; Trump is so angry that he demands analyst be fired: 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/08/12/trump-solomon-goldman-sachs-economist-tariffs.html

[seafoam1 3,187]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Goldman Sachs analyst predicts tarrifs will create rising prices; Trump is so angry that he demands analyst be fired: 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/08/12/trump-solomon-goldman-sachs-economist-tariffs.html

cool story man. Keep up your fear mongering. It's scaring the hell out of the other liberals on this site. 

[Ron_Artest 1,665]

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Goldman Sachs analyst predicts tarrifs will create rising prices; Trump is so angry that he demands analyst be fired: 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/08/12/trump-solomon-goldman-sachs-economist-tariffs.html

He also said foreign governments are paying the tariffs which is a lie.  He still doesn't understand how tariffs work or he can't stop lying about it.

[RLLD 4,272]

8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

@RLLD I’d like you to predict what’s going to happen in next years election. Everyone knows what I think: that there’s going to be a huge blue wave because of voter dissatisfaction with the tariffs, inflation, and Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill. I think you would agree with me that elections are the only polls that truly matter? So if you think people are happy with Trump, how do you predict the election will play out? 

That is a tough call, there is so much runway between now and then.

Historically, the party in the WH seems to always see a decline at the mid terms so that would statistically be a safe bet.  BUT.....the Democrats are doubling down on the opposition to Trump instead of offering an alternative, and they continue to champion every 20% issue.....

I am going to predict that the republicans keep the senate, but lose the House.  Sadly, if this turns out to be true, then democrats will likely then launch an array of fake impeachments. 

[Horseman 2,538]

13 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

20% you idiot, and it would have kept going if he didn't cave.

It would have CRASHED!!!!!

Is this the last chance to get out before it's too late?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Ron_Artest 1,665]

7 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It would have CRASHED!!!!!

Is this the last chance to get out before it's too late?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I get that your financial acumen is very low, but a 20% drop is considered a crash, and yes we had a 20% drop this year, it was a crash, and it would have deepened further if Trump didn't grow a vag and take back his tariffs.

There is even a wiki page to explain it to you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_stock_market_crash

 

[Horseman 2,538]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

I get that your financial acumen is very low, but a 20% drop is considered a crash, and yes we had a 20% drop this year, it was a crash, and it would have deepened further if Trump didn't grow a vag and take back his tariffs.

There is even a wiki page to explain it to you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_stock_market_crash

 

20%? LOL 

20% over a span of months is a bear market dummy.  Recession if it lasts longer. 

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A stock market crash is a sudden and severe decline in the value of stocks, typically defined as a drop of 10% or more in a stock index over a short period, like a few days. It's often characterized by panic selling and a loss of investor confidence, potentially leading to a broader economic downturn. 

CRASH!!!!!

So is this the last chance to get out before its too late?!?!?!?!?!

[Ron_Artest 1,665]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

20%? LOL 

20% over a span of months is a bear market dummy.  Recession if it lasts longer. 

CRASH!!!!!

So is this the last chance to get out before its too late?!?!?!?!?!

bruh, we had a 10% drop from Wed April 2 to Monday April 7, so by your own definition, we had a crash.  But you're still saying there was not a crash.

All time self own. 

[seafoam1 3,187]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

20%? LOL 

20% over a span of months is a bear market dummy.  Recession if it lasts longer. 

CRASH!!!!!

So is this the last chance to get out before its too late?!?!?!?!?!

That guy knows nothing. About anything..

[Horseman 2,538]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

bruh, we had a 10% drop from Wed April 2 to Monday April 7, so by your own definition, we had a crash.  But you're still saying there was not a crash.

All time self own. 

Not my definition dummy, THE definition.  Yours was made up. 

OMG IT CRASHED!!!! For TWO WHOLE DAYS!!!!!

S&P at all time highs, is this our LAST chance to get OUT before it's TOO LATE?!?!?!?!?!  Answer the question!!!!!

 

[Horseman 2,538]

Hysterical as a woman. 

[RLLD 4,272]

Just now, Horseman said:

Hysterical as a woman. 

Gutter only cares about these things when it hurts him, otherwise...no issue...and fock the rest of the people.

[Sean Mooney 1,990]

RLLD is clueless people. I've shown this numerous times as I've exposed his swiss cheese logic in debates.

[Ron_Artest 1,665]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

RLLD is clueless people. I've shown this numerous times as I've exposed his swiss cheese logic in debates.

Yup, several of us have.  He's a clown.

[RLLD 4,272]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

RLLD is clueless people. I've shown this numerous times as I've exposed his swiss cheese logic in debates.

Ah, the liar shows up to lie more.   Happily,  I am confident most see you for the lying piece of sh!t you are.

[Meglamaniac 575]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

RLLD is clueless people. I've shown this numerous times as I've exposed his swiss cheese logic in debates.

Aren't you just a bad a$$

[Horseman 2,538]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

RLLD is clueless people. I've shown this numerous times as I've exposed his swiss cheese logic in debates.

In debates. 

[Sean Mooney 1,990]

37 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Ah, the liar shows up to lie more.   Happily,  I am confident most see you for the lying piece of sh!t you are.

Tell us again how the media doesn't ask Trump about what he does so he doesn't have to explain it..

Also- you are a huge bag of douche

[Sean Mooney 1,990]

From Harry Enten on CNN:

 

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“Yeah, if Republicans in Congress think that they can escape the wrath of the voters when it comes to inflation, I have a bit of a rude awakening for them. Trust which party more on inflation. You go back to the 2022 midterms, look at this, Republicans led by 13 points on which party was more trusted on inflation, look where we are now, nearly a 15-point shift in the Democrats’ direction. It’s within the margin of error, but the Democrats up by a point,” replied Enten

 

Tale as old as time- voters always blame the party in power. 

[Horseman 2,538]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

From Harry Enten on CNN:

 

 

Tale as old as time- voters always blame the party in power. 

Whew, we were all holding our breath worried about what Harry Enten at CNN thought. 

[Strike 5,684]

6 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

I get that your financial acumen is very low, but a 20% drop is considered a crash, and yes we had a 20% drop this year, it was a crash, and it would have deepened further if Trump didn't grow a vag and take back his tariffs.

There is even a wiki page to explain it to you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_stock_market_crash

 

Dude who pulled all his money out of the market when the market was down to invest in cash is telling people about financial acumen.   

[Ron_Artest 1,665]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Dude who pulled all his money out of the market when the market was down to invest in cash is telling people about financial acumen.   

This is a new low for you.

[RLLD 4,272]

3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Tell us again how the media doesn't ask Trump about what he does so he doesn't have to explain it..

Also- you are a huge bag of douche

I will tell you what I please, and if you are smart you will listen, and walk away from your abundant stupidity, you focking despicable liar

[supermike80 1,965]

6 hours ago, Horseman said:

Not my definition dummy, THE definition.  Yours was made up. 

OMG IT CRASHED!!!! For TWO WHOLE DAYS!!!!!

S&P at all time highs, is this our LAST chance to get OUT before it's TOO LATE?!?!?!?!?!  Answer the question!!!!!

 

The market "crashed" because of liberals like Timmy who absolutely flipped out when the tariffs were announced.   Again remember, liberals are emotions first...always first.   So that happened.   Any sensible investor or advisor will tell you to not let emotions drive investment decisions.   But liberals get red with rage and fear and they react.   This is not a dig although it may sound like one.   It's 100% true.

[Strike 5,684]

46 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

This is a new low for you.

Truth hurts, huh?

[Ron_Artest 1,665]

8 minutes ago, Strike said:

Truth hurts, huh?

No it's not the truth, you're just making sh1t up about me now.  Very sad.  This is what happens when you're unable to have an intelligent conversation.

[Horseman 2,538]

1 hour ago, supermike80 said:

The market "crashed" because of liberals like Timmy who absolutely flipped out when the tariffs were announced.   Again remember, liberals are emotions first...always first.   So that happened.   Any sensible investor or advisor will tell you to not let emotions drive investment decisions.   But liberals get red with rage and fear and they react.   This is not a dig although it may sound like one.   It's 100% true.

So easy to take advantage of the Panicans.  I love it. 

[cyclone24 1,925]

20 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

The market does not dictate the economy.

Right now the market is betting on a couple of rate cuts and the tariffs being pulled back.

What are businesses doing? They're waiting, they're not hiring, they are eating the tariffs.  What is Warren buffet doing, hoarding cash.  What are countries doing?  Trading with each other, without us.

It's not Republicans vs Democrats

Actually, it reflects pretty much everything. If businesses weren’t coming back in droves like they are, it would be down.

If they weren’t investing in America now, unlike before they would be down.

If the tarriffs werent working, it would be down. 
 

The market is betting on rate cut? It keeps going up despite the rates not going down. I disagree. It is a very much Republican philosophy versus democratic. Heck the markets up almost 500 points again today. It is absolutely cruising. I don’t know how anyone could say. It’s not a reflection of conservative policy by Trump.

[Horseman 2,538]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Truth hurts, huh?

He told everyone to get out. But since he was completely wrong he didn't really mean it. 

 

[TimHauck 2,994]

20 hours ago, RLLD said:

Nah, people seem to be happier about it.  I get that the legacy media is working the polling as they always do.  But at least folks seem to now care about people, and I really take heart that this is now happening.

Which random person on YouTube said this?

[Ron_Artest 1,665]

28 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Actually, it reflects pretty much everything. If businesses weren’t coming back in droves like they are, it would be down.

If they weren’t investing in America now, unlike before they would be down.

If the tarriffs werent working, it would be down. 
 

The market is betting on rate cut? It keeps going up despite the rates not going down. I disagree. It is a very much Republican philosophy versus democratic. Heck the markets up almost 500 points again today. It is absolutely cruising. I don’t know how anyone could say. It’s not a reflection of conservative policy by Trump.

conservative policy? Ah, no.

I'm sorry but you are not making any sense, much like the market.  Businesses coming back in droves?  Investing in America unlike before?  You're making this all up.  This is stuff you hear on Conservative talk radio, but it's not true.  Tariffs working raises the market?  The exact opposite.

And yes the market has priced in a rate cut and likely 2 now.  If rates don't go down in September you will see quite the pullback.  The markets are not political.  In fact if you look at history the market, there is 5% greater return during Democratic terms than Republicans.

Lots of theories for what we're witnessing now,  but it's not anything you stated, I'm sorry.