seafoam1 3,532 Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The OSC is supposed to be independent, it replaced the former ‘independent counsel’ system that existed in the 90s. And here we go with the DJ hiding the documents again. Btw the person picked by at rump to head up Office of Special Counsel is / was Paul Ingrassia, the neonnazi (etc etc) who stink so much even the slavish GOP senators threw him back into the canal. Link. What documents are being hidden? Give us some details on the documents you have seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted October 24 38 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: What documents are being hidden? Give us some details on the documents you have seen. Whew. Do you see the bit further up where Smith requests access to the case files at OSC? It’s actually explained in the news article we were discussing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,673 Posted October 29 https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/trump-lashes-out-at-jan-6-prober-jack-smith-in-new-rant-demands-he-be-thrown-in-prison/ Trump Lashes Out at Jan. 6 Prober Jack Smith in New Rant — Demands He Be Thrown in ‘Prison’ President Donald Trump lashed out at former Special Counsel Jack Smith over his investigation into election crimes and the events of January 6, 2021, demanding “prison” for Smith and his investigators. Prior to being elected to a second term, Trump faced dozens of criminal counts in the Smith-led classified documents case and the January 6 case, but after the Supreme Court’s immunity ruling and Trump’s victory in the 2024 election Smith dropped the charges and resigned as special counsel. But since then, Trump and Republicans have pursued a campaign to scandalize Smith’s investigations, making false and misleading claims about the conduct of an operation to investigate January 6 and the attempt to overturn the election, code-named “Arctic Frost.” As Trump neared the end of his Asia trip Wednesday, he posted a new rant about Smith’s probe in which he attacked Smith as a “criminal” and referred to him and his team as “thugs” who belong in “prison”: These thugs should all be investigated and put in prison. A disgrace to humanity. Deranged Jack Smith is a criminal!!! Trump linked to an article detailing allegations made by the Republican-led House Judiciary Committee. Smith, for his part, has responded to a Judiciary Committee by offering, through his attorneys, to testify in public. “Given the many mischaracterizations of Mr. Smith’s investigation into President Trump’s alleged mishandling of classified documents and role in attempting to overturn the results of the 2020 election, Mr. Smith respectfully requests the opportunity to testify in open hearings before the House and Senate Judiciary Committees,” Smith’s attorneys wrote. Smith is just the latest in a list of Trump nemeses who have been targeted since he re-took office. Public pronouncements like these have preceded criminal indictments in several recent cases. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,515 Posted October 29 Sounds like a dictator, or a king. He's such a baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted October 29 >>Every politician who is investigated by the Feds denounces his prosecutor. Nothing new here…<< Yep every criminal defendant, convict & ex-con from Schenectady to Honolulu says the exact same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,673 Posted October 30 https://x.com/DilanianMSNBC/status/1983886814239764854 The National Review's @AndrewCMcCarthy: "The top priority of the Trump Justice Department, with help from other administration components and Trump allies on Capitol Hill, is to craft a revisionist history of the scandal arising from Trump’s attempt to undo his loss to Joe Biden in the 2020 election. This principally involves inculcating the syllogism that, because some Democratic lawfare efforts against Trump were bogus (e.g., the Alvin Bragg and Letitia James cases in New York), all Democratic-led investigations of Trump must have been bogus. The main targets of this revisionist history are the two federal investigations — the J6 and the Mar-a-Lago documents cases — that were manifestly based on significant misconduct and abuses of power." 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,559 Posted November 5 What happened to the other Jack Smith thread? I asked @HellToupee a question he apparently couldn’t answer and the thread got removed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted November 5 Judge Cannon has been ordered to release Vol. 2 of the Smith report on Trump’s theft of classified material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,673 Posted November 6 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: What happened to the other Jack Smith thread? I asked @HellToupee a question he apparently couldn’t answer and the thread got removed? Not my doing. The mods have a history of deleting duplicate threads, which his was. He even went so far as to use the exact same thread title and called it The Official Jack Smith Thread even though mine had been created 3 months earlier in August. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,295 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, squistion said: Not my doing. The mods have a history of deleting duplicate threads, which his was. He even went so far as to use the exact same thread title and called it The Official Jack Smith Thread even though mine had been created 3 months earlier in August. You complained about 2 threads today and both disappeared. What are we to think. You said you had nothing to do with it , I’ll take you at your word Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,673 Posted November 6 Just now, HellToupee said: You complained about 2 threads today and both disappeared. What are we to think. You said you had nothing to do with it , I’ll take you at your word Edjr may have nuked his own thread, he hasn't checked in since it disappeared. Your duplicate Jack Smith thread had been around for weeks and I had never said anything about it before today - and my comment today in another thread was to point out your hypocrisy complaining about people creating threads with similar subject matter (like on the NYC Mayor's race and one on the newly elected Mayor himself). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted November 11 1 hour ago, squistion said: SMH This is called “Theft.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,658 Posted November 11 7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: This is called “Theft.” A.K.A. Trump's America. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,673 Posted December 17 https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/2001324205644603696 BREAKING on MS NOW: Jack Smith, in his opening statement to the House Judiciary Committee, says: "Our investigation developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt that President Trump engaged in a criminal scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election and to prevent the lawful transfer of power." "Our investigation also developed powerful evidence that showed President Trump willfully retained highly classified documents after he left office in January 2021, storing them at his social club, including in a bathroom and a ballroom where events and gatherings took place. He then repeatedly tried to obstruct justice to conceal his continued retention of those documents." "The decision to bring charges against President Trump was mine, but the basis for those charges rests entirely with President Trump and his actions, as alleged in the indictments returned by grand juries in two different districts." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 990 Posted December 17 14 minutes ago, squistion said: https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/2001324205644603696 BREAKING on MS NOW: Jack Smith, in his opening statement to the House Judiciary Committee, says: "Our investigation developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt that President Trump engaged in a criminal scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election and to prevent the lawful transfer of power." "Our investigation also developed powerful evidence that showed President Trump willfully retained highly classified documents after he left office in January 2021, storing them at his social club, including in a bathroom and a ballroom where events and gatherings took place. He then repeatedly tried to obstruct justice to conceal his continued retention of those documents." "The decision to bring charges against President Trump was mine, but the basis for those charges rests entirely with President Trump and his actions, as alleged in the indictments returned by grand juries in two different districts." I bet you will get him now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,673 Posted December 17 https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/2001331566929478104 MORE from Jack Smith: "If asked whether to prosecute a former President based on the same facts today, I would do so regardless of whether the President was a Republican or Democrat." 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,076 Posted December 17 1 minute ago, squistion said: https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/2001331566929478104 MORE from Jack Smith: "If asked whether to prosecute a former President based on the same facts today, I would do so regardless of whether the President was a Republican or Democrat." And you believe him. Make sure you leave carrots out for the Reindeer next week. Silly child. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted December 17 37 minutes ago, squistion said: https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/2001324205644603696 BREAKING on MS NOW: Jack Smith, in his opening statement to the House Judiciary Committee, says: "Our investigation developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt that President Trump engaged in a criminal scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election and to prevent the lawful transfer of power." "Our investigation also developed powerful evidence that showed President Trump willfully retained highly classified documents after he left office in January 2021, storing them at his social club, including in a bathroom and a ballroom where events and gatherings took place. He then repeatedly tried to obstruct justice to conceal his continued retention of those documents." "The decision to bring charges against President Trump was mine, but the basis for those charges rests entirely with President Trump and his actions, as alleged in the indictments returned by grand juries in two different districts." What a shame this isn’t televised. It’s a disgrace really. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted December 17 21 minutes ago, squistion said: https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/2001331566929478104 MORE from Jack Smith: "If asked whether to prosecute a former President based on the same facts today, I would do so regardless of whether the President was a Republican or Democrat." Duty & rule of law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted December 17 "Exploiting that violence, Pres Trump & his associates tried to call Members of Congress in furtherance of their criminal scheme, urging them to further delay certification of the 2020 election. I didn’t choose those Members; President Trump did” Who thought this hearing was a good idea? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted December 17 My guess is the idea is the maga GOP will send a referral for some supposed perjury or other to Trump/Miller/Bondi, then they will indict Smith in Ft. Pierce / Cannon presiding for some awful crime committed in Trump’s golden bathroom in Maralago (different from the usual crimes against hygiene committed there). I’m sure that’s the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,273 Posted December 17 Part of the deal with the 2024 Trumpslide was this traitor would be dealt with expeditiously. The fact this monster is still walking free is deeply disappointing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,298 Posted December 17 Just now, Tree of Knowledge said: Part of the deal with the 2024 Trumpslide was this traitor would be dealt with expeditiously. The fact this monster is still walking free is deeply disappointing. What were the other parts of the deal? I’d really enjoy reading the list of other disappointments coming for MAGA supporters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,273 Posted December 17 1 minute ago, dogcows said: What were the other parts of the deal? I’d really enjoy reading the list of other disappointments coming for MAGA supporters. Anyone involved in the lawfare against Trump should be, at the very least, incarcerated by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,076 Posted December 17 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Anyone involved in the lawfare against Trump should be, at the very least, incarcerated by now. Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,298 Posted December 17 3 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Anyone involved in the lawfare against Trump should be, at the very least, incarcerated by now. Awesome. He is batting .000 on that and will continue to. So many MAGA tears flowing. Thanks for spreading this holiday cheer my way! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,273 Posted December 17 Just now, dogcows said: Awesome. He is batting .000 on that and will continue to. So many MAGA tears flowing. Thanks for spreading this holiday cheer my way! We will just elect someone more hardcore in 2028 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,515 Posted December 17 Just now, Tree of Knowledge said: We will just elect someone more hardcore in 2028 No you won't. Everyone hates you. More than Peefoam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted December 17 I love the thing where Patel & Bongino aren’t hardcore enough. Loomer ‘28! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,559 Posted December 17 28 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: What a shame this isn’t televised. It’s a disgrace really. They’re terrified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,673 Posted December 17 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: They’re terrified. Of course they are, Jack Smith previously worked at The Hague as a chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the Kosovo Specialist Prosecutor's Office (KSP). Jim Jordan is out of his league dealing with someone with credentials like that and would be torn to shreds by Jack Smith in a televised hearing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,076 Posted December 17 Just now, squistion said: Of course they are, Jack Smith previously worked at The Hague as a chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the Kosovo Specialist Prosecutor's Office (KSP). Jim Jordan is out of his league dealing with someone with credentials like that and would be torn to shreds by Jack Smith in a televised hearing. Make sure you don’t mention that he’s something like 0-8 in front of the SC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted December 17 28 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Part of the deal with the 2024 Trumpslide was this traitor would be dealt with expeditiously. The fact this monster is still walking free is deeply disappointing. Just to offer an opposing POV, the Garland normalized slow crawl to build a case was horrible error. And then Smith not including sedition in the charges was an error, but I’m absolutely positive he did it the way he did for good reason. But his testimony above certainly suggests sedition. I also think filing in SDFL & risking Cannon was a mistake. Again I understand why he did it. But these choices - Biden going with the carefully procedural Garland, the refusal to throw the most awful charges at Trump, the responsible choice of venue based on where the documents were stored - netted Smith nothing from maga. Fwiw Mueller made similar mistakes, but he was constantly constrained by Barr & Rosenstein. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Fantasy 172 Posted December 17 25 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Part of the deal with the 2024 Trumpslide was this traitor would be dealt with expeditiously. The fact this monster is still walking free is deeply disappointing. Very good posting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 809 Posted December 17 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: They’re terrified. As I said the goal here is purely to generate a referral & get a case to Cannon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,273 Posted December 17 4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Just to offer an opposing POV, the Garland normalized slow crawl to build a case was horrible error. And then Smith not including sedition in the charges was an error, but I’m absolutely positive he did it the way he did for good reason. But his testimony above certainly suggests sedition. I also think filing in SDFL & risking Cannon was a mistake. Again I understand why he did it. But these choices - Biden going with the carefully procedural Garland, the refusal to throw the most awful charges at Trump, the responsible choice of venue based on where the documents were stored - netted Smith nothing from maga. Fwiw Mueller made similar mistakes. Or….the 2020 election was stolen they knew it and they pinned their hopes on Trump not winning in 2024 and it could all be swept under the rug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites