U.S. Military Boat Strikes and Venezuela Thread

[FrancieFootball 149]

50 minutes ago, Strike said:

I guess we see where @FrancieFootball REALLY stands on transparency.

This is real simple, sweetie.

Trump talked about how transparent he plans to be.

Trump is blowing Venezuelan ships out of the water without providing evidence that these people are drug runners.

This is a lack of transparency and, among things, makes Trump a hypocrite.

Plain and simple.

Pivoting to the believe that America is on a need-to-know basis is baloney.

[Strike 5,997]

39 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

This is real simple, sweetie.

Trump talked about how transparent he plans to be.

Trump is blowing Venezuelan ships out of the water without providing evidence that these people are drug runners.

This is a lack of transparency and, among things, makes Trump a hypocrite.

Plain and simple.

Pivoting to the believe that America is on a need-to-know basis is baloney.

Be transparent Rusty!!! Why did you get banned this time?

[Nomad99 808]

32 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

This is real simple, sweetie.

Trump talked about how transparent he plans to be.

Trump is blowing Venezuelan ships out of the water without providing evidence that these people are drug runners.

This is a lack of transparency and, among things, makes Trump a hypocrite.

Plain and simple.

Pivoting to the believe that America is on a need-to-know basis is baloney.

If you can't look at the video footage of these boats....CLOSE UP video footage....video footage of them dumping drugs.....drugs that have been recovered......if you can't rationally conclude that these boats are in fact involved with drug activity.......there is no amount of additional evidence that would satisfy you. One can't be more transparent than ACTUALLY SHOWING YOU CLOSE UP COMBAT & STRIKE FOOTAGE INCLUDING WHAT IS AKIN TO  SHOWING YOU THE INSIDE OF YOUR AUTOMOBILE THROUGH THE SUNROOF. You are dying on a hill of your on making KNOWING that your position is WRONG all in the name of going against a position you don't support. We collectively hope that you & others of your hive continue this behavior......it will secure the political scene in the US for years to come.

[TimHauck 3,299]

7 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

If you can't look at the video footage of these boats....CLOSE UP video footage....video footage of them dumping drugs.....drugs that have been recovered......if you can't rationally conclude that these boats are in fact involved with drug activity.......there is no amount of additional evidence that would satisfy you. One can't be more transparent than ACTUALLY SHOWING YOU CLOSE UP COMBAT & STRIKE FOOTAGE INCLUDING WHAT IS AKIN TO  SHOWING YOU THE INSIDE OF YOUR AUTOMOBILE THROUGH THE SUNROOF. You are dying on a hill of your on making KNOWING that your position is WRONG all in the name of going against a position you don't support. We collectively hope that you & others of your hive continue this behavior......it will secure the political scene in the US for years to come.

There is video of the boat occupants dumping drugs?  Link?

Even if we assume the boats are carrying drugs, how do we know all of the occupants are actually willing participants in the activity?

[seafoam1 3,407]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

There is video of the boat occupants dumping drugs?  Link?

Even if we assume the boats are carrying drugs, how do we know all of the occupants are actually willing participants in the activity?

Link to where they are not participants? 

[The Real timschochet 7,400]

20 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

(along with Noem at DHS, which is a dog who can’t hunt of a different kind).

 

Don’t call her that. If she hears you she might have to put herself down. 

[FrancieFootball 149]

31 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

If you can't look at the video footage of these boats....CLOSE UP video footage....video footage of them dumping drugs.....drugs that have been recovered......if you can't rationally conclude that these boats are in fact involved with drug activity.......there is no amount of additional evidence that would satisfy you. One can't be more transparent than ACTUALLY SHOWING YOU CLOSE UP COMBAT & STRIKE FOOTAGE INCLUDING WHAT IS AKIN TO  SHOWING YOU THE INSIDE OF YOUR AUTOMOBILE THROUGH THE SUNROOF. You are dying on a hill of your on making KNOWING that your position is WRONG all in the name of going against a position you don't support. We collectively hope that you & others of your hive continue this behavior......it will secure the political scene in the US for years to come.

Venezuela plays a very minor role in the drug trade. If Trump were serious about drugs, then he'd be going after Mexican boats. Mexico is the biggest supplier of drugs in the United States. 

How do you know the videos are of boats from Venezuela?

What is known is that Trump is an epic liar

 

.https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/08/politics/venezuela-drug-boats-trump

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“Every boat kills about 25,000 people,” Trump said in a speech last week. “Every one of those boats is responsible for the death of 25,000 American people, and the destruction of families,” he said in a speech Sunday. “Probably saved at least 100,000 lives, American lives – Canadian lives – by taking out all those boats coming in,” he said while sitting with Canada’s prime minister at the White House on Tuesday.

These numbers do not make any sense.

The total number of US overdose deaths from all drugs in 2024 was about 82,000, according to provisional federal data. (Even adding in reported Canadian opioid and stimulant deaths doesn’t bring the total to 100,000.) Trump is essentially claiming, in other words, that his decision to attack a small number of boats in the Caribbean – there have been at least four US strikes since the beginning of September – prevented more than a full year’s worth of deaths.

The president’s figures “are absurd,” said Carl Latkin, a professor at the Johns Hopkins University school of public health with a joint appointment at its medical school.

“He’s claiming that he’s solved the overdose mortality crisis” with four boat strikes, and “that does not have any semblance of reality,” Latkin said in an email. “The overdose crisis continues to destroy the lives of many hard-working American families.”

There are other issues with Trump’s claims. The White House and Defense Department have not presented proof that the boats were carrying either drugs in general or the “fentanyl, mostly” Trump claimed last week they were carrying, nor that the people on the boats were planning to try to get such drugs into the US. The Caribbean is not known to be a significant fentanyl-smuggling route, and Venezuela is not considered a significant source of the illicit fentanyl trafficked into the US. That fentanyl is primarily manufactured in Mexico and smuggled across the US border in vehicles – generally by US citizens.

 

 

 

 

[Nomad99 808]

31 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

Venezuela plays a very minor role in the drug trade. If Trump were serious about drugs, then he'd be going after Mexican boats. Mexico is the biggest supplier of drugs in the United States. 

How do you know the videos are of boats from Venezuela?

What is known is that Trump is an epic liar

 

.https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/08/politics/venezuela-drug-boats-trump

 

Stay on that hill till your bones are bleached....sweetie. you guys could literally $hit your pants in front of a crowd, have it run down your leg & try to convince people it didn't happen. 

[FrancieFootball 149]

4 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

Stay on that hill till your bones are bleached....sweetie. you guys could literally $hit your pants in front of a crowd, have it run down your leg & try to convince people it didn't happen. 

Um, OK. Feel free to substantiate your nonsense diarrhea with facts, which you won't. 

[Strike 5,997]

1 hour ago, FrancieFootball said:

Venezuela plays a very minor role in the drug trade. If Trump were serious about drugs, then he'd be going after Mexican boats. Mexico is the biggest supplier of drugs in the United States. 

 

If you were serious about transparency you'd tell us why you were banned this time Rusty.  But, as we know, you're just a broken, TDS infected troll nowadays.

[SaintsInDome2006 635]

2018 Report - Trump repeatedly suggested Venezuela invasion, stunning top aides

[SaintsInDome2006 635]

O'Donnell: "Are Maduro's days as president numbered?" / Trump: "I would say yeah. I think so, yeah."

[squistion 2,504]

10 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

O'Donnell: "Are Maduro's days as president numbered?" / Trump: "I would say yeah. I think so, yeah."

So, Trump intends to do a regime change so the US can occupy the country and get all their oil? 

[Nomad99 808]

As opposed to China & Russia gaining a military stronghold.......and getting all the oil.....and natural resources. Unless they are both supporting Venezuela because they're super nice....I can understand your concern for the legitimate government that runs the place..... 

[Maximum Overkill 2,418]

6 hours ago, squistion said:

So, Trump intends to do a regime change so the US can occupy the country and get all their oil? 

We hope 

[TimHauck 3,299]

7 hours ago, Nomad99 said:

As opposed to China & Russia gaining a military stronghold.......and getting all the oil.....and natural resources. Unless they are both supporting Venezuela because they're super nice....I can understand your concern for the legitimate government that runs the place..... 

 

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

We hope 

Well at least some of you can see this isn’t actually about drugs 

[squistion 2,504]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Well at least some of you can see this isn’t actually about drugs 

Trump seems to want to start a new era of US colonialism, which is not why most folks voted for him, even the MAGA crowd. 

[Ron_Artest 2,179]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

Trump seems to want to start a new era of US colonialism, which is not why most folks voted for him, even the MAGA crowd. 

He thinks the US should dominate the Americas region.  He thinks China should dominate Asia and Russia should dominate Europe.

[HellToupee 2,185]

43 minutes ago, squistion said:

Trump seems to want to start a new era of US colonialism, which is not why most folks voted for him, even the MAGA crowd. 

We voted for his leadership. We trust The Boss to guide the country however he sees fit. 

[Meglamaniac 786]

47 minutes ago, squistion said:

Trump seems to want to start a new era of US colonialism, which is not why most folks voted for him, even the MAGA crowd. 

LOL

[Nomad99 808]

54 minutes ago, squistion said:

Trump seems to want to start a new era of US colonialism, which is not why most folks voted for him, even the MAGA crowd. 

You would need to be a complete idiot to not be concerned with China & Russia establishing a foothold in the Caribbean......remember that whole Cuban thing? Just stop.

[Meglamaniac 786]

5 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

You would need to be a complete idiot 

You could have stopped typing here

[Meglamaniac 786]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

I was told this is not about drugs

 

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-administration-planning-mission-mexico-100000603.html

[Nomad99 808]

1 hour ago, Meglamaniac said:

You could have stopped typing here

Where's the fun in that

[SaintsInDome2006 635]

1 hour ago, Nomad99 said:

You would need to be a complete idiot to not be concerned with China & Russia establishing a foothold in the Caribbean......remember that whole Cuban thing? Just stop.

I don’t think this is a bad point at all (insult aside). Yes Cuba is in Venezue & Russia has sent men & assets there & Iran has sent military hardware as well.

[Nomad99 808]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I don’t think this is a bad point at all (insult aside). Yes Cuba is in Venezue & Russia has sent men & assets there & Iran has sent military hardware as well.

I don't think anyone should be looking to control anyone's resources. That said, having a Russian/Chinese military presence in the Caribbean is untenable. The fact that both of those countries are trying to get into bed with a criminal that usurped the government election sould be THE MOST IMPORTANT conversation on the topic. Let's say the US wants to control Venezuela....China wants Taiwan.....Russia wants Ukraine. Both China & Russia want to be in Venezuela. I find it hard to believe that the US wouldn't be the best solution for the Venezuelan people & the region.