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23 minutes ago, shadrap said:

give her immunity & bingo she blabs.  may not be the truth but it will be what they want to hear.  not a fan of it at all, but it's the way it works.

Makes sense 

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25 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Hegseth and other nitwits were mainly concerned with Twitter reactions immediately after invading a foreign country and killing dozens of people. 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTEdOgVjM04/

Men don't have Instagram. Take your Mom's panties off. 

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Venezuela imported terrorist cells into the US through the open border. Something Biden and team planned on.

Trump removed them.

Trump moved on Maduro, who will pay for importing terrorists into the US.

When you clutch your pearls at the ICE and Ven. Events, you have no idea what they were planning on doing to this country.

The very politicians you cheer on for opposing this stuff knew what the original plan was.

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2 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Venezuela imported terrorist cells into the US through the open border. Something Biden and team planned on.

Trump removed them.

Trump moved on Maduro, who will pay for importing terrorists into the US.

When you clutch your pearls at the ICE and Ven. Events, you have no idea what they were planning on doing to this country.

The very politicians you cheer on for opposing this stuff knew what the original plan was.

I see the narrative has changed away from drugs to terrorists.

Bondi last night was the first person not named trump that repeated the lie about Maduro emptying his prisons and insane asylums and sending those terrorists to the US.

Now that the drug argument fizzled out, we'll be arguing about teen de aragua from insane asylums.

There is zero evidence that this ever happened.  Good luck.

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19 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

see the narrative has changed

Your hero set the narrative! WTF are you talking about?? 

Biden said, "Trump talks tough on Venezuela, but admires thugs and dictators like Nicolás Maduro."

"As President, I will stand with the Venezuelan people and for democracy," Biden added.

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30 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I see the narrative has changed away from drugs to terrorists.

Bondi last night was the first person not named trump that repeated the lie about Maduro emptying his prisons and insane asylums and sending those terrorists to the US.

Now that the drug argument fizzled out, we'll be arguing about teen de aragua from insane asylums.

There is zero evidence that this ever happened.  Good luck.

Drugs play a part. It's not about one single thing. Drugs are what funded the terrorists. It's not that complicated.

Now imagine if I am right, wouldn't you rather Trump got the terrorists out and went after the man that sent them here?

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2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Drugs play a part. It's not about one single thing. Drugs are what funded the terrorists. It's not that complicated.

Now imagine if I am right, wouldn't you rather Trump got the terrorists out and went after the man that sent them here?

Maduro didn't send terrorists here.  That's a lie.

With regards to us drug problem, opiods are by far the number one issue, produced within the US or imported by China/Mexico.

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Arguments they tried and failed

- it's about the drugs

- it's about terrorism 

- it's about democracy 

Where we stand today

- oil

- because we can

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 Venezuelan gangs, notably Tren Dey Aragua, were sent here. We know this buy the amount of arrests. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 Venezuelan gangs, notably Tren Dey Aragua, were sent here. We know this buy the amount of arrests. 

Nonsense.  You're the biggest mark on this board.  You'll believe anything you're told.

No evidence of this happen at all.

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When the Washington Post reported via anonymous sources that a government intelligence assessment concluded the Venezuelan government was not directing the migration of members of the Tren de Aragua gang to the United States, Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, dismissed such reports and said those “behind this illegal leak of classified intelligence” had “twisted and manipulated [the information] to convey the exact opposite finding.”

But a redacted copy of the intelligence memo shows that the Washington Post’s reporting was accurate

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/intelligence-memo-undercuts-trumps-immigration-argument/?hl=en-US

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Venzuala sent drugs and criminals!

Not they didnt!

Yes they did!

No they didnt idiot!

Yes they did idiot!

(Repeat for remainder of the day and into the night)

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Wait people are really trying to say Venezuela interfered in the 2020 US election?

Trump.

But of course the sheep will repeat everything trump says.

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Remember when Tren de Aguara was terrorizing those apartment complexes in Colorado? That’s what they came here for. 

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6 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Venzuala sent drugs and criminals!

Not they didnt!

Yes they did!

No they didnt idiot!

Yes they did idiot!

(Repeat for remainder of the day and into the night)

🤣

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13 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Venzuala sent drugs and criminals!

Not they didnt!

Yes they did!

No they didnt idiot!

Yes they did idiot!

(Repeat for remainder of the day and into the night)

Psst.  Even Trump is admitting it’s about the oil.

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54 Tren De Auguara gang members arrested in ATM scam. It’s what they came here for. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

54 Tren De Auguara gang members arrested in ATM scam. It’s what they came here for. 

ATM scam :lol:

Terrorists :lol:

Madura released them from jail and sent them to the US for ATM scam :lol:

 

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2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

ATM scam :lol:

Terrorists :lol:

Madura released them from jail and sent them to the US for ATM scam :lol:

 

It was a really big operation. 54 arrests. 

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What happens if the NY court finds Maduro not guilty of narco terrorism? Do we fly him back to Venezuela and re-install him as President?

This admin’s batting average in court isn’t great.

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20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It was a really big operation. 54 arrests. 

Yuge!  Good thing we annexed their country of origin.

Meanwhile we're pardoning white fraudsters who steal billions.

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4 minutes ago, MDC said:

What happens if the NY court finds Maduro not guilty of narco terrorism? Do we fly him back to Venezuela and re-install him as President?

This admin’s batting average in court isn’t great.

He'll probably hang himself in jail.

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1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Maduro didn't send terrorists here.  That's a lie.

With regards to us drug problem, opiods are by far the number one issue, produced within the US or imported by China/Mexico.

Oh ok.

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7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Yuge!  Good thing we annexed their country of origin.

Meanwhile we're pardoning white fraudsters who steal billions.

🤡

Sometimes you need to make a deal with a criminal to serve a higher purpose. I wish it wasn't so, but the swamp Trump has waded into is filled with nasty creatures. I appreciate his efforts to drain it.

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33 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

ATM scam :lol:

Terrorists :lol:

Madura released them from jail and sent them to the US for ATM scam :lol:

 

They are criminals. They do criminal things. ATM scams are one of them. It's not all murder all day. That gets boring probably. They need to spice it up a bit.

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1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Sometimes you need to make a deal with a criminal to serve a higher purpose. I wish it wasn't so, but the swamp Trump has waded into is filled with nasty creatures. I appreciate his efforts to drain it.

What is the higher purpose of pardoning David Gentile who stole $1.6B from 10k investors, and no longer has to pay back the millions he stole?

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 Venezuelan gangs, notably Tren Dey Aragua, were sent here. We know this buy the amount of arrests. 

It's even in the normal news sites that Tren De are being arrested. I'm not sure what part of cartel terrorists isn't clicking with them.

Do they think these cartel level bangers are here to commit petty crime and that's it? That is a level of naive hard to grasp.

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Just now, Ron_Artest said:

What is the higher purpose of pardoning David Gentile who stole $1.6B from 10k investors, and no longer has to pay back the millions he stole?

I don't know. Trump didn't call me up to tell me every inside deal that peons like you aren't privy to.

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Just now, Frozenbeernuts said:

I don't know. Trump didn't call me up to tell me every inside deal that peons like you aren't privy to.

Do you think it's possible that Trump is just a corrupt fraudster himself?

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1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Do you think it's possible that Trump is just a corrupt fraudster himself?

No. Has Trump done some shady things in the past? Yes. I won't even sugar coat it. Do I think he is older, wiser, and a different person now? Yes.

He cares about the country and is doing his best with all the machinations of the global political machine to weave a tapestry of America's return to greatness.

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1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

Venzuala sent drugs and criminals!

Not they didnt!

Yes they did!

No they didnt idiot!

Yes they did idiot!

(Repeat for remainder of the day and into the night)

I’ll play along.  Even if Maduro “sent” Tren de Aragua here, what would the purpose be other than to make money off drug sales?

edit: and of course as I’ve said previously that contradicts the claim that they are “murdering Americans via drugs.”  They want to make money, not kill their customers.

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Trump wrote a book called Art of the Deal. He is the master at making deals. Sometimes you have to make deals with people who have committed crimes.

This happens all the time though. Prosecutors make deals with certain people to fry a bigger fish. Acting like Trump making deals with someone who committed a crime is one of the symptoms of tds.

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’ll play along.  Even if Maduro “sent” Tren de Aragua here, what would the purpose be other than to make money off drug sales?

edit: and of course as I’ve said previously that contradicts the claim that they are “murdering Americans via drugs.”  They want to make money, not kill their customers.

Taco

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