CMC - Deja Vu

[JagFan 182]

Calf injury, now Questionable.  Yikes!

[Matt Mueller 148]

It was kind of questionable to me that everyone was so back on board. 
 

we’ll see. I took Archane/Henry over him in our IBL league whether that works out or not at least they seemed more healthy and had close to same upside 

[Maximum Overkill 2,185]

I wouldn't draft him with your pick 

[Mike FF Today 738]

 

[weepaws 3,237]

Good move holding him back, i didn’t get to draft him, but I still think he’s going to produce big this season.  Imo. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,185]

6 hours ago, weepaws said:

Good move holding him back, i didn’t get to draft him, but I still think he’s going to produce big this season.  Imo. 

Of course he will, if he's on the field. 

[crackills 20]

i drafted Robinson in every league.. i think he will see the field way more than most think.. as Niners try to keep Mc healthy for most of the year. 

[weepaws 3,237]

I don’t think anyone sees Robinson in a RBBC. 

[crackills 20]

27 minutes ago, weepaws said:

I don’t think anyone sees Robinson in a RBBC. 

70/30 - easy. Lets see how it plays out. 

[JagFan 182]

Hearing this morning that CMC is fine.  They are just monitoring his practice reps.  False alarm.  
I hope that’s true in one of my leagues.

[weepaws 3,237]

Robinson is an upgrade over all the others that backed up Mccaffery on the Niners, but if Mccaffery is healthy, I’ll say more like 80/20.  

But a very good player to own is Robinson if Mccaffery goes down, seems like Rbs in the Niners system perform, and Robinson can I think in that system. 

[polecatt 481]

Jalen Carter- I'm gonna get ejected after the opening kickoff and miss the opener...

CMC- Hold my beer...

[Ray_T 764]

This is exactly why I didnt have a first round grade on CMC.   I took a bit of flak for that on the other thread. (though admittedly not a lot)

  When they traded for a RB late in pre season that told me that his health was not a given.  You dont make that trade if CMC is 100% healthy..... and when you have a player who was somewhat injury prone to begin with, that meant trouble (at least in my eyes)

I acknowledge it could be much ado about nothing but the risk is still there with CMC.  hes a guy who gets hurt a lot.

 

[weepaws 3,237]

I don’t think Mccaffery health is a given, I think the Niners made a great move going after Robinson.  They had little quality behind before picking up Robinson.  Even if Mccaffery stays healthy, it’s a very good move. 

[Mike FF Today 738]

 

[Mike FF Today 738]

 

[GobbleDog 1,004]

Entered last year on IR because of achilles tendinitis - in both feets. Eventually played 3 full games... 10.7 pts, 10.6 pts, 4.8 pts, then sprained mcl in the fourth. All 4 games combined finished with 4.0 ypc, zero Tds, 1.7 ya-contact (career low), and 6.5 ya-catch (career low).

Now 29 with a long injury history and in spite of last year's poor stats... he's gonna regain '23 form AND stay healthy.?.

Hope springs eternal for some. Not me. 

[Ray_T 764]

1 hour ago, weepaws said:

I don’t think Mccaffery health is a given, I think the Niners made a great move going after Robinson.  They had little quality behind before picking up Robinson.  Even if Mccaffery stays healthy, it’s a very good move. 

I wasnt criticizing the move.   its prudent to get someone who can play if you think there is any chance your starter cannot.

my point is from a fantasy perspective, I am glad I had a second round grade on him.  if I picked him in round 1 I'd be pretty worried right about now.

[JagFan 182]

CMC says he feels great, and is playing Sunday.  Crisis averted.

[Ray_T 764]

19 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Entered last year on IR because of achilles tendinitis - in both feets. Eventually played 3 full games... 10.7 pts, 10.6 pts, 4.8 pts, then sprained mcl in the fourth. All 4 games combined finished with 4.0 ypc, zero Tds, 1.7 ya-contact (career low), and 6.5 ya-catch (career low).

Now 29 with a long injury history and in spite of last year's poor stats... he's gonna regain '23 form AND stay healthy.?.

Hope springs eternal for some. Not me. 

these types of injuries are hard to predict.   

Tendonitis can be chronic.   but you can only take so many drugs to control it and only certain types of drugs.   I am admittedly not an expert in what ones can and cannot be used, but this is worrisome.  Like I said, I did some research, but once I got to a point where I realized I wasnt planning to take him in round 1 I was reasonably certain it wouldnt be a large factor for me anyhow.  if he fell into round 2, the risk vs the reward is roughly equal and that is a bit of a game changer at that point.   but I was 99% sure he wasnt falling to me in round 2 of any draft I was in, so I didnt worry about it all that much

on another note:  Tendonitis, back injuries and a lot of those soft tissue type injuries can be very difficult to predict and project.   when I pick injury prone players like this, these are the situations I usually get burned on.

so if its a player that can ruin your draft, its tough for me to go down that road in round 1 for a player like this.    Dont get me wrong... when healthy, hes exciting, fun to watch and a fantasy gold mine.   I just feel like those days for him may be done.    There May be one good year left in him (maybe) but that is far from guaranteed.

 

[GobbleDog 1,004]

22 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

There May be one good year left in him (maybe) but that is far from guaranteed.

Usually better to get out a year too early, than a year too late.  Particularly with a 1st round pick. 

Before I looked at adp's a few months back for the first time, I would've guessed McCaff's adp to be about mid-3rd rd.  I was stunned at the optimism. I guess he reached a level of fantasy greatness nobody can forget and many believe it returns. 

It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. The drafters who risked 1st rd picks are the ultimate gamblers - I can respect that. If they all get paid, hats off. 

[Drogon 18]

2 hours ago, weepaws said:

I don’t think Mccaffery health is a given, I think the Niners made a great move going after Robinson.  They had little quality behind before picking up Robinson.  Even if Mccaffery stays healthy, it’s a very good move. 

And the fact that the backs behind CMC have also been injured this preseason (Guerendo with an injured shoulder and the rookie James with a broken finger) necessitated the Niners going out and getting more depth and a proven back like Robinson Jr.  It's football.  It's not a question of if you get injured but when.  

[Ray_T 764]

2 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

Usually better to get out a year too early, than a year too late.  Particularly with a 1st round pick. 

Before I looked at adp's a few months back for the first time, I would've guessed McCaff's adp to be about mid-3rd rd.  I was stunned at the optimism. I guess he reached a level of fantasy greatness nobody can forget and many believe it returns. 

It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. The drafters who risked 1st rd picks are the ultimate gamblers - I can respect that. If they all get paid, hats off. 

all it takes is one to value him as a first rounder for him to go there.

I had him as a late 2nd rounder before the risk vs reward starts to make sense.   when they traded for another RB I knocked him down to late 2nd as a figured they were of the opinion they'd need another RB (which is not a good sign)

but in every redraft I was in he did go in round 1.   so yeah, others were more optomistic than I was.... and thats fine.   hes not the type of player you overpay for due to the risks.

so you nailed it.  in keeper leagues, better to unload him a year early than a year late.    Nobody is gonna pay top dollar for a 30 year old RB who is injury prone.   Id rather take my chances with Derek Henry.  At least He seems to be reasonably durable.   and the upside is almost as good.

[nobody 2,744]

No worries guys.  He says he feels great.  He feels so great they won't let him practice.  I guess they're just lying right to our faces now.