US Federal Government Shutdown Thread

[nobody 2,829]

15 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

A shutdown falls on the president's lack of leadership. I mean problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top. A shutdown means the president is weak.

We get it.  The Party told you to recycle the old Trump statement.  I must've seen this same thing on twitter 40 times.

[squistion 2,388]

 

[easilyscan 978]

29 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The city of Detroit has two congressional members: this plastic faced person and Rashida Tlaib.

The motor city is a shell of it's former self. 

[thegeneral 3,454]

8 minutes ago, nobody said:

We get it.  The Party told you to recycle the old Trump statement.  I must've seen this same thing on twitter 40 times.

It’s not anyone’s fault except for Don. He talks out his asss on every topic. There’s a tweet for every occasion. 

[thegeneral 3,454]

Just now, easilyscan said:

The motor city is a shell of it's former self. 

Honest question. What city do Geeks actually like?

[Strike 5,900]

27 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Seems good from what I can tell.

So conservatives like Pfizer again?

Has nothing to do with liking Pfizer.  Has to do with helping Americans and leveling the playing field with the rest of the world.  We not only subsidize Americans here, pay for illegals here, but we subsidize the rest of the world when it comes to healthcare.  I hope Trump does a lot more but this is a start, and more than Biden did.

[easilyscan 978]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Honest question. What city do Geeks actually like?

When I said Detroit was a shell of his former self, I was thinking of the glory days of the 50's. 

As for towns I actually like, I'd say any small to medium size towns that haven't been liberalized.

New Ulm Minnesota comes to mind. 

 

Key Characteristics of Detroit's Golden Age (1950s):

• Automotive Powerhouse: 

  Detroit was the center of the global auto industry, with the "Big Three" automakers providing stable, well-paying jobs. 

   
• Population Peak: 

  The city reached its largest population, 1.85 million, making it the fourth-largest city in the United States. 

   
• Cultural Hub: 

  The city was the birthplace of Motown Records, launching the careers of legendary artists and shaping American popular music. 

   
• Sports Dominance: 

  Detroit's sports teams, including the Red Wings, Lions, and Pistons, enjoyed significant success. 

   
• The American Dream: 

  For the working class, Detroit offered a high standard of living, with high wages and affordable housing. 

   

A Brief Overview of the "Glory Days" Period:

• Precursors to the 1950s: 

  The foundation for Detroit's success was laid in the earlier 20th century with the rise of the automotive industry, which made the city a world-class industrial power and the fourth-largest U.S. city by the 1920s. 

   
• The Peak Years: 

  The 1950s saw the culmination of this growth, with Detroit considered the wealthiest city in the world at the time and a model for the working-class American dream. 

   

   

   

  Today, its like most other large cities, only able to stay relevant thanks to Federal funding.

   

  Pandemic relief funds: Detroit was awarded $827 million through the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) to assist with recovery efforts. The city has used these funds for home repair programs, job training, flood prevention, and legal aid for residents. Housing and community development: The city receives substantial funding from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). In 2024, it received $346.8 million in disaster recovery funds to improve flood resilience and affordable housing. It has also used federal grants for specific programs, such as the Renew Detroit initiative, which provides home repair grants for low-income seniors and disabled homeowners. Infrastructure projects: The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act is a source of federal funding for Michigan and its communities, including Detroit. For example, Detroit was awarded a $20.7 million federal grant for a greenway project to connect different neighborhoods.

  Down payment assistance: In 2025, a new program offered grants of up to $25,000 for qualified Detroit residents to help with down payments and closing costs when purchasing a home. 

  The national context of federal grants

  It is common for cities and states across the U.S. to receive federal grants for various purposes, including health care, infrastructure, and education. However, the proportion of federal funding can be notably high in cities like Detroit that have faced long-term economic challenges, prompting greater investment to address persistent issues. 

   

   

[thegeneral 3,454]

2 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

When I said Detroit was a shell of his former self, I was thinking of the glory days of the 50's. 

As for towns I actually like, I'd say any small to medium size towns that haven't been liberalized.

New Ulm Minnesota comes to mind. 

 

 

Key Characteristics of Detroit's Golden Age (1950s):

• Automotive Powerhouse: 

  Detroit was the center of the global auto industry, with the "Big Three" automakers providing stable, well-paying jobs. 

   
• Population Peak: 

  The city reached its largest population, 1.85 million, making it the fourth-largest city in the United States. 

   
• Cultural Hub: 

  The city was the birthplace of Motown Records, launching the careers of legendary artists and shaping American popular music. 

   
• Sports Dominance: 

  Detroit's sports teams, including the Red Wings, Lions, and Pistons, enjoyed significant success. 

   
• The American Dream: 

  For the working class, Detroit offered a high standard of living, with high wages and affordable housing. 

   

A Brief Overview of the "Glory Days" Period:

• Precursors to the 1950s: 

  The foundation for Detroit's success was laid in the earlier 20th century with the rise of the automotive industry, which made the city a world-class industrial power and the fourth-largest U.S. city by the 1920s. 

   
• The Peak Years: 

  The 1950s saw the culmination of this growth, with Detroit considered the wealthiest city in the world at the time and a model for the working-class American dream. 

   

   

   

  Today, its like most other large cities, only able to stay relevant thanks to Federal funding.

   

  Pandemic relief funds: Detroit was awarded $827 million through the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) to assist with recovery efforts. The city has used these funds for home repair programs, job training, flood prevention, and legal aid for residents. Housing and community development: The city receives substantial funding from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). In 2024, it received $346.8 million in disaster recovery funds to improve flood resilience and affordable housing. It has also used federal grants for specific programs, such as the Renew Detroit initiative, which provides home repair grants for low-income seniors and disabled homeowners. Infrastructure projects: The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act is a source of federal funding for Michigan and its communities, including Detroit. For example, Detroit was awarded a $20.7 million federal grant for a greenway project to connect different neighborhoods.

  Down payment assistance: In 2025, a new program offered grants of up to $25,000 for qualified Detroit residents to help with down payments and closing costs when purchasing a home. 

  The national context of federal grants

  It is common for cities and states across the U.S. to receive federal grants for various purposes, including health care, infrastructure, and education. However, the proportion of federal funding can be notably high in cities like Detroit that have faced long-term economic challenges, prompting greater investment to address persistent issues. 

   

   

I meant big cities. Is there any that the Geeks like?

I haven’t been to Detroit for about 20 years but on that trip got turned around driving downtown and drove maybe 10 minutes in wrong direction. At one point drove by dudes standing around a metal barrel with a fire in it (was winter) on a block with like 10 houses that were burnt out. That was a bit wild.

Had heard it was having a hipstery style come back over past 10 years or so. With some spots popping up here and there.

[Ron_Artest 1,986]

42 minutes ago, nobody said:

We get it.  The Party told you to recycle the old Trump statement.  I must've seen this same thing on twitter 40 times.

You fell for it yesterday.

Dummy.

[Ron_Artest 1,986]

23 minutes ago, Strike said:

Has nothing to do with liking Pfizer.  Has to do with helping Americans and leveling the playing field with the rest of the world.  We not only subsidize Americans here, pay for illegals here, but we subsidize the rest of the world when it comes to healthcare.  I hope Trump does a lot more but this is a start, and more than Biden did.

I already explained this to you, this Pfizer deal doesn't do much.  The prices offered will be higher than insurance negotiated prices.

You sound silly repeating these lies.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,849]

1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

Look at this clown

 

He belongs in a hut

[jonnyutah 485]

5 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

5 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

Having fewer subsidies will make healthcare cheaper. 

At least for me! 

I'd love to hear your logic on this one

Did you figure it out yet?

Or are you finally admitting you are just as dumb as a box of rocks?

[Ron_Artest 1,986]

2 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Did you figure it out yet?

Or are you finally admitting you are just as dumb as a box of rocks?

So you're just full of sh1t.

[Strike 5,900]

17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I already explained this to you, this Pfizer deal doesn't do much.  The prices offered will be higher than insurance negotiated prices.

You sound silly repeating these lies.

Sorry I don't listen to people who believe Biden cut the price of Insulin.  Those people are idiots.

[Ron_Artest 1,986]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Sorry I don't listen to people who believe Biden cut the price of Insulin.  Those people are idiots.

I explained this too.  You think I'm wrong?  Because I can bring receipts to prove it.

[Strike 5,900]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

I explained this too.  You think I'm wrong?  Because I can bring receipts to prove it.

I'll pass.  Anyone who followed that knows where the Insulin pricing came from.  All you and Hauck Tuah do is argue all day.  Most of us are sick of it.  

[Ron_Artest 1,986]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

I'll pass.  Anyone who followed that knows where the Insulin pricing came from.  All you and Hauck Tuah do is argue all day.  Most of us are sick of it.  

[jonnyutah 485]

22 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

25 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Did you figure it out yet?

Or are you finally admitting you are just as dumb as a box of rocks?

So you're just full of sh1t.

You seriously cant figure this out? This is the best. I love when people that think they are smart cant figure out things. They get mad. They hurl insults. 

Classic left halfer behavior. 

 

[squistion 2,388]

 

[Ron_Artest 1,986]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

When they're leftoids who've spent their government careers undermining their own country on the taxpayer dime, you kind of don't give a sh*t.

For example: Immigrants in Chicago area live 'in absolute fear' as federal agents search for 'criminal aliens' - YouTube

And when they're regular people trying to feed their families, pay for college, live decent lives and they lose their jobs, oh well?

[HellToupee 2,073]

10 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

 

[Strike 5,900]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

And when they're regular people trying to feed their families, pay for college, live decent lives and they lose their jobs, oh well?

They can learn to code.

[TimHauck 3,199]

19 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

You seriously cant figure this out? This is the best. I love when people that think they are smart cant figure out things. They get mad. They hurl insults. 

Classic left halfer behavior. 

 

Complaining about hurling insults while quoting yourself hurling insults, nice touch.

[BrahmaBulls 880]

19 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

Life troll wonders why everyone hates me

[Voltaire 5,419]

This is kind of funny, man.

I was reading nytimes whine about the effects of the shutdown and it reads like political pron. My cup quickly began to overflow with leftoid nytimes tears, so I needed to go get three more cups so I could store the rest in the freezer.  Full applause for identifying the chinks in the Democrats' armor and have the temerity it took to call their bluff. Trump can (and now has) rope-a-doped the Democrats into anything. look what they've done. The Democrats have chosen to allow Russ Vought to decide what gets funded and what doesn't. He's no doubt been waiting in anticipation for this moment ever since he took that job.  Even though a lot of this will eventually get funded anyway when a deal is reached, some won't. There's a sense of real hope for permanent structural reform in the exact places where activist lower courts have deliberately gummed up the works. It's exciting to see play out.

It's not zero pain. I mean, you can't be too happy when essential workers will have to forgo wages and wait to get backpay, these are good people and there are bills coming due in the meantime which they don't deserve to be caught short of cash for. There is a trade-off and it's coming on their backs and it's not fair to them. The reason I'm happy anyway is that this pain is only temporary, they will get backpay eventually, but the rest reads like a cornucopia of delayed relief that had long been needing to get done but until now had been blocked by activist lower court judges. Reforms we've been waiting nine months for are going to be in line to get unsealed and unclogged in the next few days since there is not enough money availible for all bills to be paid so things will have to get prioritized. It was especially gratifying reading about all those VOA sh*tbags getting canned less than two days after that turd judge decided that he had the authority to appoint himself CEO of VOA and usurp the decision making of that agency. That timing was particularly delicious.  VOA has a proud history and done many good things so what's happened there has been particularly tragic, seeing how it's been compromised, it needs an extreme makeover to return to its original function and this shutdown offers the opportunity to do an end run around the activist leftoid judge to hopefully allow it to actually get one.

More big pieces are finally allowed to come together now. Fund this, don't fund that. Vought is on it in a bigtime way. As the party in charge of Congress and the Presidency, the Republicans have to vote to keep the government open but frankly the country will be better off by giving this shutdown a few weeks to fully blossom and letting Russ Vought cook. The Dems are providing all but one of the no votes. Alrighty then. Like I said, it's mostly all going to eventually be re-funded anyway but the money being withheld is all Democrat priorities, they're the party that loves big, intrusive government. so fock it. Who cares? In the mean time, hopefully temporary changes can be backdoored into permanent changes at these (can't find the right adjective) agencies. As this goes on, hopefully these government workers hire in somewhere else and leave these agencies either replaced with reformers or unfilled vacancies. Cement it all in place with another three years of Trump, followed hopefully by eight of Vance.

Thank You for the help, Dems. Keep holding your breath until you reach the shade of blue you like. I'm sure at some point the Republicans will stop laughing, dancing, and celebrating long enough to take pity on you. Then you'll get 'em!

Trump Uses Shutdown to Maximize Pain for Democrats and Move Forward With Layoffs - The New York Times

[Voltaire 5,419]

46 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

And when they're regular people trying to feed their families, pay for college, live decent lives and they lose their jobs, oh well?

No, that's not.

If you come across anyone like that, let think know about this link here.

[jonnyutah 485]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Complaining about hurling insults while quoting yourself hurling insults, nice touch.

I hurl insults because you guys suck. Ron hurls insults because he gets confused. 

Thats not complaining, thats an observation. 

[jonnyutah 485]

Ron reads the cereal box and gets confused.

2/3 cup milk and 3/4 cup of cereal??? What kind of sorcery is this. Kelloggs sucks!!! I hate those snap crackle pop idiots!!!

Ron is a dummy. 

Ron hurled insults because the cereal box frustrated him. Jonny called him a dummy because he is a dummy. 

Jonny had to explain this to tim because tim's parents are first cousins pants removed. 

[Voltaire 5,419]

57 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

 

Jonny had to explain this to tim because tim's parents are first cousins pants removed. 

You're still expected to ask the cousins if they are a boy or girl because it's polite, but no matter what they say, deep down you know the truth, since you've seen them with their pants removed.

[Voltaire 5,419]

On 9/30/2025 at 5:17 PM, Ron_Artest said:

Republicans control all of govt but blame Chuck Schumer for shutting it down.  And you guys believe it

I see that Jane Goodall has died today. RIP Jane.

Jane worked with chimpanzees, not gorillas and she wasn't Koko the Sign Language Gorilla's keeper, but she did learn sign language in order to allow her to talk to Koko because Koko was such a fascinating celebrity in the primate world.

One of the interesting stories Jane told about Koko was how one day the keeper had checked in on her and found that the water fountain had been dislodged from the wall. So when the keeper asked Koko what had happened, Koko replied that it was her pet kitten who had been responsible for tearing the water fountain off of the wall. I found that story cute.

Anyway your argument on this post, together with Jane's death, reminded me that in fact, I have seen someone previously use identical absurd logic as you.

Koko is seven years dead now, so it'd be tragic to learn that she never got a chance to play tic-tac-toe against you.

 

[Ron_Artest 1,986]

6 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

Ron reads the cereal box and gets confused.

2/3 cup milk and 3/4 cup of cereal??? What kind of sorcery is this. Kelloggs sucks!!! I hate those snap crackle pop idiots!!!

Ron is a dummy. 

Ron hurled insults because the cereal box frustrated him. Jonny called him a dummy because he is a dummy. 

Jonny had to explain this to tim because tim's parents are first cousins pants removed. 

There are directions on a cereal box?

[Ron_Artest 1,986]

More Americans blame Trump and Republicans than Democrats for shutdown, poll finds - Washington Post https://share.google/6nL0KjpjaEESJL2go

Interesting.  I would have thought more people would blame Democrats based on the media.

[Maximum Overkill 2,319]

9 hours ago, squistion said:

 

How does this guy get away with posting lies all the time? 

[Maximum Overkill 2,319]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

More Americans blame Trump and Republicans than Democrats for shutdown, poll finds - Washington Post

Again, you Dems got it all wrong. Republicans love this and he's more popular than ever. 

When will you learn? 

[Ron_Artest 1,986]

5 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I see that Jane Goodall has died today. RIP Jane.

Jane worked with chimpanzees, not gorillas and she wasn't Koko the Sign Language Gorilla's keeper, but she did learn sign language in order to allow her to talk to Koko because Koko was such a fascinating celebrity in the primate world.

One of the interesting stories Jane told about Koko was how one day the keeper had checked in on her and found that the water fountain had been dislodged from the wall. So when the keeper asked Koko what had happened, Koko replied that it was her pet kitten who had been responsible for tearing the water fountain off of the wall. I found that story cute.

Anyway your argument on this post, together with Jane's death, reminded me that in fact, I have seen someone previously use identical absurd logic as you.

Koko is seven years dead now, so it'd be tragic to learn that she never got a chance to play tic-tac-toe against you.

 

Thats a lot of words to say you disagree with me.

I pointed it out before, I'll do it again.  The GOP can end it today by changing the rules to a majority vote. They don't want to.  They want the fight. They want to play politics and inflict pain, cut programs, cut jobs, etc.

Use your brain.

[Ron_Artest 1,986]

Trump updated all govt websites blaming the shutdown in radical left Democrats.  He's loving this shutdown.  He loves to fight and inflict pain on others.

[Maximum Overkill 2,319]

Such an embarrassment for the Pathetic Democrat Party. As if it couldn't get worse