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 I should have went with Hole-Doll Parts. Linger was my sad breakup song for the 90s.

 Also wanted a few songs that were on the edge of being alternative. Like Marilyn Mansons”Dope Show”. 

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15 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

Like Marilyn Mansons”Dope Show”

I was surprised no one drafted him and I'm not a fan but he was big in the 90's. Found out the other day that Marilyn throat punched Andy D!ck at a bar. Seth Green story with Bill Maher and was kinda funny and on YT about it.

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We have more guys who actually created than have voted in the other threads :lol:

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Ok, I went back and counted drafted songs by frafters whose songs which probably would have been on my list.  Although  I didn't feel like a lot of my songs go sniped.  Nutshell, Plush, Hungerstrike, No Rain, Self-Esteem, and Glycerine were some I would have liked to have had.

shotsup - 7

jerry - 11

bunny - 11

5-points - 10

herbivore - 11

BHB - 17

Helltoupee - 7

Biff - 17

RHR - 6

Those rankings will probably guide my voting as we progress, and if they're close I'll take a deeper look to make a decision.  I get a lot of this is just listener preference, and not everyone likes the songs I enjoy the most from this era.

There's some bands I haven't listened to as much, and I do intend to go through most of this list, listen to the songs I don't recognize off the bat and see if they are worth an add to my daily playlist.  Screaming Trees I haven't given much time to, and didn't recognize some like Buffalo Tom, Pennywise or Big Audio Dynamite.  All that said, I'll likely be adding to my already included 3,576 tracks :ninja:

Some songs I'm surprised no one drafted would be Head Like a Hole, Jane Says, and then some bands like The Flys, Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, The Rentals, Soul Coughing, Superdrag, and Tripping Daisy.  

I wonder if some of the selections are more regionally known.  Built to Spill comes to mind but I'm familiar with them, but a band like Dispatch that's probably better known in the Northeast and only more recently becoming more popular across the country.  A band for me in that sense would be The Urge (StL), who kind of had a following with the 311 crowd (Omaha) when I was in high school.

I really appreciate all the effort that went into this :thumbsup:

and to end, how about some...

 

 

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also, from my preference it looks like the group B section is stacked :ninja:

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2 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

Ok, I went back and counted drafted songs by frafters whose songs which probably would have been on my list.  Although  I didn't feel like a lot of my songs go sniped.  Nutshell, Plush, Hungerstrike, No Rain, Self-Esteem, and Glycerine were some I would have liked to have had.

shotsup - 7

jerry - 11

bunny - 11

5-points - 10

herbivore - 11

BHB - 17

Helltoupee - 7

Biff - 17

RHR - 6

Those rankings will probably guide my voting as we progress, and if they're close I'll take a deeper look to make a decision.  I get a lot of this is just listener preference, and not everyone likes the songs I enjoy the most from this era.

There's some bands I haven't listened to as much, and I do intend to go through most of this list, listen to the songs I don't recognize off the bat and see if they are worth an add to my daily playlist.  Screaming Trees I haven't given much time to, and didn't recognize some like Buffalo Tom, Pennywise or Big Audio Dynamite.  All that said, I'll likely be adding to my already included 3,576 tracks :ninja:

Some songs I'm surprised no one drafted would be Head Like a Hole, Jane Says, and then some bands like The Flys, Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, The Rentals, Soul Coughing, Superdrag, and Tripping Daisy.  

I wonder if some of the selections are more regionally known.  Built to Spill comes to mind but I'm familiar with them, but a band like Dispatch that's probably better known in the Northeast and only more recently becoming more popular across the country.  A band for me in that sense would be The Urge (StL), who kind of had a following with the 311 crowd (Omaha) when I was in high school.

I really appreciate all the effort that went into this :thumbsup:

and to end, how about some...

 

 

:headbanger:

I had Limp Bizkit and Deftones on deck, but ended up not pulling the trigger on them. This is another I had on deck and ended up going undrafted. 

 

 

 

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Just now, cmh6476 said:

also, from my preference it looks like the group B section is stacked :ninja:

We are combining in Round 2 and will have 2 teams kicked off in a Heisman style vote. 

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31 minutes ago, BiffTannen said:

We are combining in Round 2 and will have 2 teams kicked off in a Heisman style vote. 

:thumbsup:

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Today on 90s on SiriusXM I heard Tom Petty - Free Fallin (1990) - but I wouldn't count that for this draft since it's rock. 

I also heard Snow - Informer, great song that I have on my usb playlist. Not sure if that is considered alternative rock. It's 1990s though.

Finally heard Sixpence None The Richer - Kiss Me (1999) 

 

I saw The Sundays were taken in this draft, but think 10,000 Maniacs didn't have a song chosen.

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On 10/10/2025 at 7:19 PM, Gepetto said:

oh, I just thought of a great unique song that was played a lot in the late 90s. I even bought the CD. Will be interesting to see if and where it gets picked.

Did this song ever get drafted? 

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38 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Did this song ever get drafted? 

It did not.

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Just now, MikeMatt said:

Well then what was it ?

White Town - Your Woman

 

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1 minute ago, Gepetto said:

White Town - Your Woman

 

Racist  :mad:

 

Never heard of it. 

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40 minutes ago, MikeMatt said:

Racist  :mad:

 

Never heard of it. 

Maybe you've heard the song, if you listen to it: 

released in January 1997 in the US  

AI Overview

"Your Woman" by White Town was a massive hit, reaching number one on the UK Singles Chart and charting internationally in countries like Spain and Iceland. It was a significant success in the US as well, peaking at number 23 on the Billboard Hot 100. The song was also notable for being one of the first major hits recorded entirely in a bedroom studio, which contributed to its "novelty hit" status for some listeners.  

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  Creed-One

 RHCP- Suck My Kiss

Depech Mode-Enjoy The Silence 

And one I really wanted but it came out in 2000…

 

 

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On 10/21/2025 at 8:48 PM, cmh6476 said:

Some songs I'm surprised no one drafted would be Head Like a Hole, Jane Says, and then some bands like The Flys, Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, The Rentals, Soul Coughing, Superdrag, and Tripping Daisy.  

Jane Says was 1988

On 10/21/2025 at 11:20 PM, Gepetto said:

I saw The Sundays were taken in this draft, but think 10,000 Maniacs didn't have a song chosen.

10k Maniacs only had the one album in the 90s w These are Days and Candy Everybody Wants, oh I guess you could have counted Because the Night from Unplugged. 

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On 10/5/2025 at 7:48 PM, BiffTannen said:

shotsup - 144

1. Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit - 10

2. The Breeders - Cannonball - 10

3. Alanis Morissette - You Oughta Know - 8

4. Candlebox - Far Behind - 6

5. Silverchair - Tomorrow - 8

6. No Doubt - Don't Speak - 8

7. Red Hot Chili Peppers - I Could Have Lied - 7

8. Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend - 8

9. Seven Mary Three - Cumbersome - 6

10. Fuel - Shimmer - 7

11. Soul Asylum - Somebody to Shove - 7

12. Tool - Swamp Song - 7

13. Alice in Chains - Sludge Factory - 8

14. Temple of the Dog - Say Hello 2 Heaven - 8

15. Monster Magnet - Space Lord - 5

16. Sponge - Plowed - 8

17. Soundgarden - Pretty Noose - 6

18. Pearl Jam -  Deep - 8

19. Stone Temple Pilots - Sour Girl - 6

20. Bloodhound Gang - Along Came Mary - 3 (don't recall hearing this, not good)

jerryskids - 140

1. Pearl Jam - Jeremy - 9

2. Rage Against the Machine - Killing in the Name - 10

3. Tool - Sober - 10

4. Goo Goo Dolls - Iris - 7

5. The Offspring - The Kids Aren't Alright - 5 (don't recall hearing this, meh)

6. Eve 6 - Inside Out - 0 (tied for worst alt song taken imho)

7. Stone Temple Pilots - Vasoline - 9

8. Gin Blossoms - Hey Jealousy - 9

9. Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life - 9

10. Live - Lightning Crashes - 6

11. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Give it Away - 10

12. Spin Doctors - Two Princes - 10

13. Tonic - If You Could Only See - 6

14. Everlast - What It's Like - 7

15. Harvey Danger - Flagpole Sitta - 6

16. Green Day - When I Come Around - 7

17. Candlebox - You - 6

18. Blink 182 - All the Small Things - 6

19. Days of the New - Touch, Peel, and Stand - 8

20. Creed - Higher - 0 (Creed stinks, songs I don't consider alt got 0's)

bunnybastards - 148

1. Radiohead - Creep - 10

2. Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus - 10

3. R. E. M. - Losing My Religion - 6

4. Oasis - Wonderwall - 6

5. Pearl Jam - Yellow Ledbetter - 9

6. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Breaking the Girl - 7

7. Live - All Over You - 6

8. Buttwhole Surfers - Pepper - 7

9. Marcy Playground - Sex and Candy - 7

10. The Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony - 9

11. Stone Temple Pilots - Interstate Love Song - 8

12. Alice in Chains - Nutshell (unplugged) - 10

13. Better Than Ezra - Good - 7

14. Seven Mary Three - My My - 7

15. Soundgarden - Jesus Christ Pose - 7

16. Garbage - Stupid Girl - 6

17. Fishbone - Sunless Saturday - 6

18. Dishwalla - Counting Blue Cars - 7

19. Counting Crows - Long December - 7

20. The Cranberries - Linger - 6

5-Points - 157

1. Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun - 8

2. Stone Temple Pilots - Dead and Bloated - 9

3. Lit - My Own Worst Enemy - 6

4. The Offspring - Bad Habit - 6

5. Green Day - Basket Case - 7

6. Everclear - Father of Mine - 10

7. Garbage - I Think I'm Paranoid - 6

8. Big Audio Dynamite - Rush - 9

9. Hole - Celebrity Skin - 6

10. Blink 182 - Dammit - 7

11. Barenaked Ladies - One Week - 7

12. Sublime - Garden Grove - 10 (debated this over What I Got, also Doin Time and April 29th, 1992)

13. Nirvana - Heart Shaped Box - 8

14. Smashing Pumpkins - Mayonnaise - 9

15. Social Distortion - Ball and Chain - 8

16. The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get - 8

17. Len - Steal My Sunshine - 9

18. The Presidents of the United States of America - Lump - 8

19. Rage Against the Machine - Testify - 6

20. Smash Mouth - All Star - 9 (personal love here, my son would sing this all the time)

 

BeenHereBefore - 144

1. Nine Inch Nails - Closer - 8

2. Nirvana - Come As You Are - 10

3. Pearl Jam - Alive - 10

4. 4 Non Blondes - What's Up? - 9

5. Ugly Kid Joe - Everything About You - 5

6. Bush - Glycerine - 0 (tied for worst song in draft imho)

7. Soul Asylum - Runaway Train - 8

8. Cake - The Distance - 5

9. Beck - Loser - 10

10. Blur - Song 2 - 9

11. Seven Mary Three - Water's Edge - 7

12. Blind Melon - No Rain - 9

13. Alice in Chains - Rooster - 8

14. The Cure - Friday I'm in Love - 6

15. Sublime - Santeria - 10

16. Black Crowes - Hard to Handle - 0 (not alt)

17. Concrete Blonde - Joey - 9

18. Matchbox 20 - 3AM - 3 (this is probably their best song, I don't like them at all)

19. Fiona Apple - Criminal - 9

20. Rusted Root - Send Me On My Way - 9

CMH - 162

1. Green Day - Longview - 10

2. Soundgarden - Spoonman - 8

3. Nirvana - In Bloom - 10

4. Mazzy Star - Fade Into You - 10

5. Primus - Wynonna's Big Brown Beaver - 8

6. Rage Against the Machine - Bulls On Parade - 10

7. Pearl Jam - Immortality - 8

8. Radiohead - Fake Plastic Trees - 9

9. Filter - Hey Man Nice Shot - 8

10. Mad Season - River of Deceit - 8

11. Weezer - The Sweater Song - 8

12. Stone Temple Pilots - Big Empty - 8

13. The Offspring - Come Out And Play - 8

14. Porno For Pyros - Pets - 8

15. Hole - Violet - 6

16. Alice in Chains - Down in a Hole - 10

17. Nine Inch Nails - Down In It - 6

18. 311 - Down - 9

19. Tool - AEnema - 10

20. Tom Petty - You Don't Know How It Feels - 0 (not alt)

HellToupee - 155

1. Foo Fighters - Everlong - 8

2. Weezer - Say It Ain't So - 9

3. Screaming Trees - Nearly Lost You - 10

4. Buffalo Tom - Taillights Fade - 5 (don't recall hearing this, meh)

5. Spacehog - In the Meantime - 9

6. Local H - Bound For the Floor - 9 (I heard this randomly again yesterday, as background music on some radio talk show)

7. Dinosaur Jr - The Wagon - 10 (great pick imo, D jr is a top 5 band for me)

8. Pearl Jam - Black (unplugged) - 10

9. Toad The Wet Sprocket - Walk on the Ocean - 8

10. Rollins Band - Liar - 5

11. Nirvana - Lithium - 10

12. Pixies - Velouria - 8

13. Pavement - Cut Your Hair - 8

14. Gin Blossoms - Until I Fall Away - 6

15. Hole - Malibu - 6

16. Frank Black - Headache - 6

17. Iggy Pop - Candy - 7

18. Oasis - Supersonic - 8 

19. Sugar - A Good Idea - 8 (don't recall hearing this, nice)

20. World Party - Is It Like Today? - 5 (had never heard this, meh)

BiffTannen - 159

1. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Under the Bridge - 10

2. Alice in Chains - Man in the Box - 10

3. Pearl Jam - Even Flow - 10

4. Green Day - Welcome to Paradise - 9

5. Nirvana - Where Did You Sleep Last Night? - 8

6. The Toadies - Possum Kingdom - 7

7. Gin Blossoms - Found Out About You - 7

8. Collective Soul - Shine - 8

9. Barenaked Ladies - The Old Apartment - 8

10. Smashing Pumpkins - 1979 - 9

11. Stone Temple Pilots - Plush - 10

12. Soundgarden - Fell On Black Days - 8

13. Korn - Blind - 6

14. Third Eye Blind - How's It Going to Be - 7

15. Oasis - Don't Look Back in Anger - 6

16. The Offspring - Self Esteem - 6

17. Counting Crows - Mr. Jones - 9

18. Bush - Comedown - 6

19. Live - I Alone - 7

20. Candlebox - Cover Me - 8

RaiderHatersRevenge - 154

1. The Cranberries - Zombie - 10

2. Smashing Pumpkins - Bullet with Butterfly Wings - 9

3. Temple of the Dog - Hunger Strike - 10

4. Cracker - Low - 8

5. The La's - There She Goes - 8

6. Morrissey - The Last of the Famous International Playboys - 8

7. No Doubt - I'm Just a Girl - 9

8. Pennywise - Bro Hymm - 6 (don't recall hearing this, meh+)

9. Rocket from the Crypt - Ditch Digger - 6 (don't recall hearing this, meh+)

10. Pixies - Alec Eiffel - 6 

11. Blues Traveler - The Hook - 8 

12. Our Lady Peace - 4 Am - 7

13. Rancid - Ruby Soho - 8

14. Catherine Wheel - Black Metallic - 6

15. Nine Inch Nails - hurt - 9

16. Lemonheads - Into Your Arms - 9

17. Dramarama - What Are We Gonna Do - 7

18. Sonic Youth - Bull in the Heather - 7

19. Ben Folds Five - Brick - 6

20. NOFX - Lori Meyers - 7

Everyone's list was great. CMH gets top rank from me. Many that I could have taken, but only sniped a few times..Nearly Lost You, Bulls on Parade. 

some that came to mind but didn't pick. 

EMF - Unbelievable

Dee-Lite - Groove is in the Heart

Mercury Rev - Holes

Jesus Jones - Right Here, Right Now

System of a Down - Sugar or Suite Pee 

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37 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

Everyone's list was great. CMH gets top rank from me. Many that I could have taken, but only sniped a few times..Nearly Lost You, Bulls on Parade. 

some that came to mind but didn't pick. 

EMF - Unbelievable

Dee-Lite - Groove is in the Heart

Mercury Rev - Holes

Jesus Jones - Right Here, Right Now

System of a Down - Sugar or Suite Pee 

:headbanger:

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4 hours ago, Herbivore said:

Everyone's list was great. CMH gets top rank from me. Many that I could have taken, but only sniped a few times..Nearly Lost You, Bulls on Parade. 

some that came to mind but didn't pick. 

EMF - Unbelievable

Dee-Lite - Groove is in the Heart

Mercury Rev - Holes

Jesus Jones - Right Here, Right Now

System of a Down - Sugar or Suite Pee 

Appreciate the detailed breakdown.  I knew Creed would get me in trouble, although I've learned there are a few other Creed fans here.  Funny thing is, my plan was to take All Star (which you gave a 9), but 5-points sniped me.  

Also interesting what songs you don't consider alt.  I would say Linger by the Cranberries is not alt at all; the only reason it might be thought of alt is because the same group did Zombies.  But, most of their songs, while I like them, are kind of elevator music-ish IMO.

:cheers:

 

 

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So many good bands and songs from the era. I put together a team based on free agents leftover from the draft. I'd put this lineup against anyones.

 

 

Alice in Chains Would?

Nirvana Drain You

Smashing Pumpkins Today

Paul Westerberg Waiting for Somebody

Dig Believe

Red Hot Chili Peppers Suck My Kiss

Faith No More Epic

311 Beautiful Disaster

Sublime Doin Time

School of Fish Strange Days

Lit Miserable

Hum Stars

Counting Crows Rain King

Radiohead Paranoid Android

Rage Against the Machine Know Your Enemy

Dinsoaur Jr Feel the Pain

Lemonheads Shame about Ray

Beastie Boys Intergalactic

Social Distortion Story of My Life

Mother Love Bone Stargazer

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1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many good bands and songs from the era. I put together a team based on free agents leftover from the draft. I'd put this lineup against anyones.

 

 

Alice in Chains Would?

Nirvana Drain You

Smashing Pumpkins Today

Paul Westerberg Waiting for Somebody

Dig Believe

Red Hot Chili Peppers Suck My Kiss

Faith No More Epic

311 Beautiful Disaster

Sublime Doin Time

School of Fish Strange Days

Lit Miserable

Hum Stars

Counting Crows Rain King

Radiohead Paranoid Android

Rage Against the Machine Know Your Enemy

Dinsoaur Jr Feel the Pain

Lemonheads Shame about Ray

Beastie Boys Intergalactic

Social Distortion Story of My Life

Mother Love Bone Stargazer

 I thought I had picked a Faith No More pic. Epic and Mid Life Crisis was on my list.

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1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Faith No More - Epic

 

1 hour ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 I thought I had picked a Faith No More pic. Epic and Mid Life Crisis was on my list.

1989

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18 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

Album was released in June 1989. 

We agreed to be liberal on accepting either album or song release if it fell within the 90s.

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Just now, jerryskids said:

We agreed to be liberal on accepting either album or song release if it fell within the 90s.

oh, I didn't see that. gonna see if anyone did.

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

We agreed to be liberal on accepting either album or song release if it fell within the 90s.

I looked back at the posts, we read this differently. We agreed to be liberal, but song had to be released in the 90s. You mentioned the as a single element, but with an understanding that it came out before the album, cmh said pick whatever and let the votes decide. So, I guess you could pick a song that was released in 89, and then released as a single in 90. I would award that song 0 for this draft. :D Raiders and I msged about The Stone Roses album that came out late in 89, it had singles that came out in the 90s. Anyway, if you haven't figured it out, I could ramble about music endlessly.

30 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

No Dave Matthews Band songs chosen.

Realized this about the same time you posted it. Was never a DMB fan, but they got some good ones.

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Dave Matthews Band was considered 1990s alternative rock. 
I have 3 of their CDs and listened to them a lot. They played it in the bars a lot too during that time (mid-1990s). I haven't listened in years but it was good music.

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I saw save with bela fleck and the flecktones back in the day.   I wish I would have appreciated them more as I'd probably go see bela before I did dmb now :lol:

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On 10/15/2025 at 2:28 PM, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

16.01 Lemonheads - Into your Arms 

I didn’t want to use Mrs Robinson

 

 Saw them at CBGBs 

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