NFL Power Rankings Week 9

[Voltaire 5,458]

1) Green Bay Packers 5-1-1 1

2) Detroit Lions 5-2  2

3) Buffalo Bills 5-2  3

4) Los Angeles Rams 5-2  4

5) Seattle Seahawks 5-2   5

6) Philadelphia Eagles 6-2   6

7) Kansas City Chiefs 5-3 7

8 ) Indianapolis Colts 7-1  8 

9) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6-2 10

10) Los Angeles Chargers 5-3 17

11) Denver Broncos 6-2  14

12) New England Patriots 6-2  11

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13) San Francisco 49ers 5-3  9

14) Chicago Bears 4-3 12

15) Jacksonville Jaguars 4-3 19

16) Washington 3-5  15

17) Pittsburgh Steelers 4-3 16

18) Houston Texans 3-4  23

19) Minnesota Vikings 3-4 13

20) Carolina Panthers 4-4 20

21) Baltimore Ravens 2-5 26

22) Dallas Cowboys 3-4-1 21

23) Atlanta Falcons 3-4 18

24) New York Giants 2-6 22

25) Miami Dolphins 2-6 29

26) Cleveland Browns 2-6 24

27) Arizona Cardinals 2-5 27

28) Las Vegas Raiders 2-5 28

29) New Orleans Saints 2-6 30

30) New York Jets 1-7 32

31) Cincinnati Bengals 3-5 25

32) Tennessee Titans 1-7 31

[cmh6476 1,114]

I don't think the Chiefs care that you continue to underestimate them

[cmh6476 1,114]

Chiefs next three opponents are @bills, @broncos, vColts.   A lot will shake out in the afc over the next month.

I also think you have the broncos way too low.   I'm guessing maybe you haven't watched them much as they probably haven't been on locally in your area. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,527]

Chiefs are the best team in football

Colts are second

 

[cmh6476 1,114]

20 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Chiefs are the best team in football

Colts are second

 

Three one score games away from being undefeated

[Voltaire 5,458]

57 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

I don't think the Chiefs care that you continue to underestimate them

I don't think any of them post here. I suspect my readership caps out at around 12-15 or so, none of them being NFL players.

That said, I never treated them like an 0-2 or 2-3 team either. The next three games are against solid opponents and a chance to flip the Bills into first place in the AFC. They'll also finally provide Indy a chance to prove themselves against a quality opponent. Although the Charger and Bronco wins look better each week.

[cmh6476 1,114]

4 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I don't think any of them post here. I suspect my readership caps out at around 12-15 or so, none of them being NFL players.

That said, I never treated them like an 0-2 or 2-3 team either. The next three games are against solid opponents and a chance to flip the Bills into first place in the AFC. They'll also finally provide Indy a chance to prove themselves against a quality opponent. Although the Charger and Bronco wins look better each week.

Which wins of the lions do you feel are quality teams?

[cmh6476 1,114]

Actually I can tell from your post..

Lions have beat 9, 14, 21, 26 and 31 while losing to 1 and 7.

While the Chiefs beat 2, 16, 21, 24, and 28 while losing to 6, 10 and 15.

[weepaws 3,320]

1 hour ago, cmh6476 said:

I don't think the Chiefs care that you continue to underestimate them

They don’t care, But you do.   Redskins are back. 

[Voltaire 5,458]

40 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

Which wins of the lions do you feel are quality teams?

The Lions have been the best team in the league for the last two seasons and it's not close. This year, they've run a gauntlet of Packers, Lamar's non-injury decimated Ravens, Bears, Chiefs,  Bucs, as well as the non-injury depleted Browns and Bengals and come out 5-2. When healthy they're still the best team out there. They never are healthy, they win anyway but coming off this bye, a lot of nagging injuries will finally get better all at the same time. Hopefully that can be used in the past tense. I can't put them ahead of Green Bay, they've only got one loss and that was a healthy Lions team that lost to them, even though the Lions have otherwise owned that team in recent years.

I've had to drop San Fran sadly, despite being 5-3 because the injuries are just overwhelming. They find ways to win, I respect the team. The AFC Central deserves better luck than they've gotten. Baltimore should climb back up as people return. Cincy's defense is a nightmare but they'd deserve better if Burrow was around.  Cleveland too, the offense sucks but that's as stout a defense as the NFL has. Going into the season, the Giants looked like they were going to be crap. They aren't, this should be a competitive team that deserves far better than 2-5. It looks more like injury, rather than talent deficiencies, that are keeping the Giants down. Arizona has had injuries too.

As for the Chiefs, they have a helluva tough schedule. That division has arrived, plus they have a first place schedule. Patriots do have that big signature win against Buffalo but like Indy they're record may be an illusion as it is based on playing a far easier schedule than the rest of the top teams. Indy, to their credit, does blow out the bad teams. Victories over Denver and LAC look like better and better wins as those teams succeed although Denver feels like fools gold.

[Voltaire 5,458]

The Colts are going to win the AFC thanks to their cupcake schedule but the true tests will be KC and Seattle. I wish I could say SF too but that team is running on coaching, willpower. and fumes.

[cmh6476 1,114]

I wouldn't count out the Texans.   Their o- line sucks, but they have a stout defense and should have Collins and mixon back soon. And the Colts second half schedule looks a lot tougher than their first half schedule, to me. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,404]

5 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

Actually I can tell from your post..

Lions have beat 9, 14, 21, 26 and 31 while losing to 1 and 7.

While the Chiefs beat 2, 16, 21, 24, and 28 while losing to 6, 10 and 15.

Chiefs strength of schedule has been a joke. They've beaten up on crappy teams thus far. 

Am I wrong? 

[MDC 7,839]

Things change week to week, but right now Eagles are better than the Seahawks or Rams IMO. I’d put KC above them too.

[listen2me 23 1,948]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Things change week to week, but right now Eagles are better than the Seahawks or Rams IMO. I’d put KC above them too.

I wont argue that much since when Eagles click they are as good as anyone.  But I still feel Rams just fly under the radar fot such a quality team.  

Good coach, old but still good QB, good run game, 2 stud WRs...and a young good defense.  Rams when healthy are as good as anyone I think.  

I think a lot will come down to homefield in NFC.  If Packers meet Lions in the dome, I think they lose.  Lambeau I think they win. If Rams go to Philly I think they lose.  If Philly met them in LA I think Rams win.  

[MDC 7,839]

12 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I wont argue that much since when Eagles click they are as good as anyone.  But I still feel Rams just fly under the radar fot such a quality team.  

Good coach, old but still good QB, good run game, 2 stud WRs...and a young good defense.  Rams when healthy are as good as anyone I think.  

I think a lot will come down to homefield in NFC.  If Packers meet Lions in the dome, I think they lose.  Lambeau I think they win. If Rams go to Philly I think they lose.  If Philly met them in LA I think Rams win.  

Eagles are 6-2 and already beat three teams in Voltaire’s Top 10, including the Rams. LAR may be the better team come the end of the year. I just don’t see how you can rank them over Philly right now.  

[listen2me 23 1,948]

30 minutes ago, MDC said:

Eagles are 6-2 and already beat three teams in Voltaire’s Top 10, including the Rams. LAR may be the better team come the end of the year. I just don’t see how you can rank them over Philly right now.  

I agree.  Its why I dont care for power rankings.  Not saying you dismissed them, I just feel Rams get overlooked a lot.  

Sure they beat them at home.  It took them blocking a 44 yard kick to win it.  A win is a win, but Rams came into Philly, outgained them, and had a chance to win on a 44 yard routine FG.  

Based on whatever scientific ranking criteria we go by, sure you probably cant put Rams ahead.  There is no rhyme or reason to weekly power rankings though as seen by these weekly lists.  

[cmh6476 1,114]

Points Scored:

1. Colts 

2. Cowboys 

3. Lions

4. Chiefs 

5. Patriots 

Points Allowed:

1. Texans

2. Rams

3. Chiefs 

4. Seahawks

5. Bills

 

Even though some teams have eight games played while some have seven, I still only see one team on both lists

[edjr 6,882]

25 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

Points Scored:

1. Colts 

2. Cowboys 

3. Lions

4. Chiefs 

5. Patriots 

Points Allowed:

1. Texans

2. Rams

3. Chiefs 

4. Seahawks

5. Bills

 

Even though some teams have eight games played while some have seven, I still only see one team on both lists

No one cares about your KC opinions, as they are always the same. 

[cmh6476 1,114]

21 minutes ago, edjr said:

No one cares about your KC opinions, as they are always the same. 

As opposed to you and Boston sports, and Volty and the lions

It's who we are

 

At least some others here recognize the Chiefs are still one of the best teams in the league

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,404]

7 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

At least some others here recognize the Chiefs are still one of the best teams in the league

Let me know when they beat a real team. 

[cmh6476 1,114]

46 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Let me know when they beat a real team. 

They're beating who they are playing by double digits. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,404]

5 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

They're beating who they are playing by double digits. 

They've beaten 1 team with a winning record. The Lions, and that's when they were terrible. 

They've beaten nobody.

Now, if they rough up the Bills then I'll listen. Till then, they've done nothing 

[Voltaire 5,458]

10 hours ago, MDC said:

Eagles are 6-2 and already beat three teams in Voltaire’s Top 10, including the Rams. LAR may be the better team come the end of the year. I just don’t see how you can rank them over Philly right now.  

You didn't notice that the better team, the one that outplayed the other by a decent margin, was the one that lost the game due to a pair of special teams breakdowns?

[listen2me 23 1,948]

16 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

They've beaten 1 team with a winning record. The Lions, and that's when they were terrible. 

They've beaten nobody.

Now, if they rough up the Bills then I'll listen. Till then, they've done nothing 

I have a hard time defending the chiefs.  But sometimes you are way out in left field with your analysis and try too hard.  

Back when Lions were terrible coming off 4 straight wins?  4 wins where they scored an avg of 40 per.  What?  What does that even mean.  

[MDC 7,839]

19 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

You didn't notice that the better team, the one that outplayed the other by a decent margin, was the one that lost the game due to a pair of special teams breakdowns?

Prepare to have your mind blown: special teams is one of the three phases of the game.  

The Eagles out scored the Rams 21-0 from the early 3rd on before the final blocked kick. And the Rams only quality win was against the Colts, a team you don’t even believe in. 

I think they’re a Top 10 team. I just don’t see what basis there is to put them ahead of Philly, KC, maybe TB.

[WhiteWonder 2,905]

i know it does not matter at all but i'd have the Bengals ahead of the Jets. H2H win aside, the Bengals have a better offense and are a better coached team. The way the Jets defense is playing and being coached, it's nearly as bad as the Bengals as well. 

[Voltaire 5,458]

13 minutes ago, MDC said:

Prepare to have your mind blown: special teams is one of the three phases of the game.  

The Eagles out scored the Rams 21-0 from the early 3rd on before the final blocked kick. And the Rams only quality win was against the Colts, a team you don’t even believe in. 

I think they’re a Top 10 team. I just don’t see what basis there is to put them ahead of Philly, KC, maybe TB.

That's why Philly came out of it with the W, but they don't get any style points out of it. Anyone who watched that game came away thinking the Rams are better than the Eagles and it was a fluke outcome.

[weepaws 3,320]

Just now, WhiteWonder said:

i know it does not matter at all but i'd have the Bengals ahead of the Jets. H2H win aside, the Bengals have a better offense and are a better coached team. The way the Jets defense is playing and being coached, it's nearly as bad as the Bengals as well. 

Right, this Post doesn’t matter, first good post you’ve ever had, congrats Tuesday morning Qb.  

[MDC 7,839]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

That's why Philly came out of it with the W, but they don't get any style points out of it. Anyone who watched that game came away thinking the Rams are better than the Eagles and it was a fluke win.

Or the Eagles played like ass for half the game, fell into a 26-7 hole and the Rams still couldn’t close.  

Anyway, I just can’t see how a teen with zero wins against an actual contender can sniff the Top 5. 

[Voltaire 5,458]

4 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

i know it does not matter at all but i'd have the Bengals ahead of the Jets. H2H win aside, the Bengals have a better offense and are a better coached team. The way the Jets defense is playing and being coached, it's nearly as bad as the Bengals as well. 

It looked to me that it was the better team that won that game and they did it shorthand. Its not like the BS win Tennessee had against Arizona. Jets earned the W.

[WhiteWonder 2,905]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

It looked to me that it was the better team that won that game and they did it shorthand. Its not like the BS win Tennessee had against Arizona. Jets earned the W.

they did. Doesn't vault them any higher than 31st, imho.

[cmh6476 1,114]

52 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I have a hard time defending the chiefs.  But sometimes you are way out in left field with your analysis and try too hard.  

Back when Lions were terrible coming off 4 straight wins?  4 wins where they scored an avg of 40 per.  What?  What does that even mean.  

People are just ready for the Chiefs to be a thing of the past.   Luckily, I think we've just gotten started

[listen2me 23 1,948]

Volty often times notes Lions injuries thinking no other team has them.  

Lions secondary is tore up.  But plenty of teams that have had massive injuries.  

Bills 1st round pick finally played snaps last week.  Their prefered #2 while he was out is on IR.  Former pro bowler Milano is out yet again.  Other LBer Bernard has missed time.  Ed Oliver just went out for season.  Their 2nd round pick DT hasnt played yet due to injury. Daquan Jones the other starting DT next to Oliver has been out.  Rapp their starting saftey went on IR last week.  Josh Palmer got hurt early 2 weeks ago and is out.  

You can add them up and say Lions have more thats fine.  Was just plucking 1 of the 2 teams I know about.  But its the NFL.  Dolphins lost like 3 starters before the season even started to year enders.  Then Tyreek year ender.  

Lions arent the only team that gets injuries.  

[cmh6476 1,114]

1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Volty often times notes Lions injuries thinking no other team has them.  

Lions secondary is tore up.  But plenty of teams that have had massive injuries.  

Bills 1st round pick finally played snaps last week.  Their prefered #2 while he was out is on IR.  Former pro bowler Milano is out yet again.  Other LBer Bernard has missed time.  Ed Oliver just went out for season.  Their 2nd round pick DT hasnt played yet due to injury. Daquan Jones the other starting DT next to Oliver has been out.  Rapp their starting saftey went on IR last week.  Josh Palmer got hurt early 2 weeks ago and is out.  

You can add them up and say Lions have more thats fine.  Was just plucking 1 of the 2 teams I know about.  But its the NFL.  Dolphins lost like 3 starters before the season even started to year enders.  Then Tyreek year ender.  

Lions arent the only team that gets injuries.  

I think true power rankings should take into account injuries, and who teams are planning to trot out and play in the upcoming game.   

[Voltaire 5,458]

Just now, WhiteWonder said:

they did. Doesn't vault them any higher than 31st, imho.

Cincy had just beaten Pittsburgh the week before so there's that. I see it. But their other wins were with Burrow. Jets have been atrocious but they've come close. Denver was within reach even though they had nightmarish offense.

If i had a team and was looking for an easy win, both would serve sufficient, but I'd rather play Cincy. What happens when the worst offense in the league goes up against the worst defense? That offense scores 38 points. Unreal. I tuned in for this game as I'd taken Cincy for my survivor team this week and have now been eliminated. They were at home, the Jets offense was sh*t all year, they were banged up... nope ... it was a solid win. They were driving all game, a lot of those first half drives ended in FGs. They needed two stops at the end of the game and got them both.

[listen2me 23 1,948]

6 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

I think true power rankings should take into account injuries, and who teams are planning to trot out and play in the upcoming game.   

So Ravens with Lamar move up to top 8 this week?  

Power rankings are goofy.  

[WhiteWonder 2,905]

11 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Cincy had just beaten Pittsburgh the week before so there's that. I see it. But their other wins were with Burrow. Jets have been atrocious but they've come close. Denver was within reach even though they had nightmarish offense.

If i had a team and was looking for an easy win, both would serve sufficient, but I'd rather play Cincy. What happens when the worst offense in the league goes up against the worst defense? That offense scores 38 points. Unreal. I tuned in for this game as I'd taken Cincy for my survivor team this week and have now been eliminated. They were at home, the Jets offense was sh*t all year, they were banged up... nope ... it was a solid win. They were driving all game, a lot of those first half drives ended in FGs. They needed two stops at the end of the game and got them both.

i'm only replying because I enjoy good debate, not because I genuinely care if the Jets are ranked 30th or 31st 

You are correct, the Jets had nightmarish offense against Denver... but their offense has been nightmarish all season. At this point, that is who they are and not something I use to excuse a close loss or make a win seem bigger than it was. Aside from Pittsburgh game back in week 1, most of the Jets offensive numbers and Fields numbers have come in catch up mode and/or garbage time. Even against Cincy, they were down as much as 17 at points in that game. 

I would have told you not to take Cincy. Not because I thought the Jets were going to win the game but because making your survivor pick against a winless team is a sucker bet. History tells us most teams are going to win a game at some point. No way in hell i'm picking against a winless team in week 8 unless they are playing a far more complete team than Cincy. I'd be more looking to pick teams playing against the Titans, Saints, Browns, Cardinals, Panthers without Bryce Young, etc. 

[cmh6476 1,114]

3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

So Ravens with Lamar move up to top 8 this week?  

Power rankings are goofy.  

Lamar looked like ass against the Chiefs. 

[Voltaire 5,458]

18 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Volty often times notes Lions injuries thinking no other team has them.  

Lions secondary is tore up.  But plenty of teams that have had massive injuries.  

Bills 1st round pick finally played snaps last week.  Their prefered #2 while he was out is on IR.  Former pro bowler Milano is out yet again.  Other LBer Bernard has missed time.  Ed Oliver just went out for season.  Their 2nd round pick DT hasnt played yet due to injury. Daquan Jones the other starting DT next to Oliver has been out.  Rapp their starting saftey went on IR last week.  Josh Palmer got hurt early 2 weeks ago and is out.  

You can add them up and say Lions have more thats fine.  Was just plucking 1 of the 2 teams I know about.  But its the NFL.  Dolphins lost like 3 starters before the season even started to year enders.  Then Tyreek year ender.  

Lions arent the only team that gets injuries.  

If you're getting your player back, I'm not going to punish you too much. That's why I had Washington hanging around the mid-high mark for a while and I expect them to move back up again. I'd been doing that with SF too but I've had to accept reality with them, this is not a team that is going to get healthy later. This would be a top team, should be, now I see them as a mid tier one. The whole of the AFC North looked like solid teams when the year started, that division has been losing players faster than anyone else. Baltimore can rebound, maybe, Lamar is godly after all and he's coming back maybe this week, but that defense will have to show some life.