seafoam1 3,492 Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, MDC said: People kill people. Guns is the preferred method. Dang, you are really stupid. In some other thread you will whine about catholics using swords. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,838 Posted 11 hours ago 7 minutes ago, MDC said: People kill people. Guns is the preferred method. Exactly. Guns are also the preferred method of protection against those people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,048 Posted 10 hours ago Just now, 5-Points said: Exactly. Guns are also the preferred method of protection against those people. And also the weapon of choice for killers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,592 Posted 10 hours ago 11 minutes ago, MDC said: People kill people. Guns is the preferred method. Actually you're wrong. Stabbing deaths far outpace gun deaths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,397 Posted 10 hours ago 11 minutes ago, 5-Points said: If 500 million firearms were turned lose to wreak havoc tomorrow, we would be a country of about 50 million overnight. You're seeing what you want to see. That's your threshold for a problem? You don't care that schools keep getting shot up, you don't care that thousands of kids each year die from guns, just admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,048 Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Actually you're wrong. Stabbing deaths far outpace gun deaths. In the US, firearms are used in more homicides than every other type of weapon combined. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Fantasy 130 Posted 10 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: England has a knife problem Goes hand in hand with their imported muslim problem not to mention the sexual assaults Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,127 Posted 10 hours ago Yeah, let's all give up our guns. Let's become England, where you get arrested for tweets. Seriously, we don't hate liberals enough. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,838 Posted 10 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: That's your threshold for a problem? You don't care that schools keep getting shot up, you don't care that thousands of kids each year die from guns, just admit it. See, here's your disconnect, I hate it when innocent people are gunned down by shitbags. Whether those shitbags be terrorists or unfortunate American kids who got doped up with ssri's because they have sh!tty, lazy parents who would rather throw pills down their kid's throats than actually sit and talk with them about their live's. You are quick to relinquish the rights our founding fathers had the foresight to enshrine in our founding documents because you foolishly feel it will make you safer in the short run, without a second's thought about the long run. 500 million guns aren't the problem. If they were, you wouldn't be here. Think about it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,838 Posted 10 hours ago 40 minutes ago, MDC said: And also the weapon of choice for killers. And also the weapon of choice for millions of Americans for personal defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,185 Posted 10 hours ago 53 minutes ago, 5-Points said: We have "common sense" gun restrictions in this country. They don't keep the wrong people from getting their hands on guns. It's a pipedream. The sky is blue, water is wet, bad people do bad things. America definitely does NOT have common sense gun restrictions. Zero background checks required for private sales in many states. A convicted murderer, first day out of jail, could buy guns from a private seller. That is the opposite of common sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,838 Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, dogcows said: America definitely does NOT have common sense gun restrictions. Zero background checks required for private sales in many states. A convicted murderer, first day out of jail, could buy guns from a private seller. That is the opposite of common sense. Illegally. Convicted felons aren't allowed to be near guns, let alone own them. So how did that "common sense" gun law work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,515 Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, dogcows said: America definitely does NOT have common sense gun restrictions. Zero background checks required for private sales in many states. A convicted murderer, first day out of jail, could buy guns from a private seller. That is the opposite of common sense. I agree with you about these restrictions. I would love to see them. But I also have always thought it was disingenuous to suggest that any of these restrictions would serve to reduce the amount of mass shooters or gun violence in general: Sadly we simply have too many guns around for that, we’re not getting rid of them. These tragedies are here to stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Fantasy 130 Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, dogcows said: A convicted murderer, first day out of jail, could buy guns from a private seller. The same thing could happen under a total gun ban. Both would be illegal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted 8 hours ago 11 hours ago, MDC said: Australia has had four (4) mass shootings in the last five years. The US has had nine (9) in December 2025 already. Great take, genius. Tell us about those 9. Bet you won’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Fantasy 130 Posted 7 hours ago The Australian PM is a real authoritarian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,378 Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, Reality said: Yeah, let's all give up our guns. Let's become England, where you get arrested for tweets. Seriously, we don't hate liberals enough. I know you’ve been gone from here for awhile and this is apparently the only place you get opinions that differ from your own, but did you see the story about the guy that was put in jail for over a month for posting a Trump meme? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,378 Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: That's your threshold for a problem? You don't care that schools keep getting shot up, you don't care that thousands of kids each year die from guns, just admit it. Interesting that @Reality disappears for months, doesn’t care about the mass shootings in the US including several by US military veterans, but decides he wants to come back and post nunverous times about an attack in Australia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Fantasy 130 Posted 7 hours ago This story is wild “Bondi shooting has everything: -Multicultural Islamic migrants -Female cops standing down -Failed gun control -Prime Minister caught trying to sneak ISIS brides into the country” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,185 Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, 5-Points said: Illegally. Convicted felons aren't allowed to be near guns, let alone own them. So how did that "common sense" gun law work? Im telling you, because of the no background checks law in many states, this can very easily happen. Only 22 states require background checks on private sales. No background check = you don’t know who you are selling to. Could be anybody. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,185 Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I agree with you about these restrictions. I would love to see them. But I also have always thought it was disingenuous to suggest that any of these restrictions would serve to reduce the amount of mass shooters or gun violence in general: Sadly we simply have too many guns around for that, we’re not getting rid of them. These tragedies are here to stay. Fewer guns would mean fewer shootings. Human nature is the same around the planet. But only in the USA do we have mass shootings due to the insane number of guns and the easy access to them. Other societies have figured this out. They also figured out that universal healthcare saves people a LOT of money; A majority of Americans are too stupid to acknowledge either of these realities. They’d rather see their kids shot to death in school, and the ones that live go bankrupt due to medical bills that are wildly unaffordable. All because… “freedom”? What kind of freedom is it to die as a child or not be able to live due to no healthcare? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted 6 hours ago There is no punishment, only reward, in the Koran for killing non believers. I don’t know of any religion that has that as part of their canon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, dogcows said: Fewer guns would mean fewer shootings. Human nature is the same around the planet. But only in the USA do we have mass shootings due to the insane number of guns and the easy access to them. Other societies have figured this out. They also figured out that universal healthcare saves people a LOT of money; A majority of Americans are too stupid to acknowledge either of these realities. They’d rather see their kids shot to death in school, and the ones that live go bankrupt due to medical bills that are wildly unaffordable. All because… “freedom”? What kind of freedom is it to die as a child or not be able to live due to no healthcare? The people that commit medicare/ Medicaid fraud must really, really piss you off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,467 Posted 6 hours ago The two brothers are Isaac and Ishmael, sons of Abraham, who are foundational figures in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (the Abrahamic faiths); Isaac, son of Sarah, is the ancestor of Israelites (Judaism/Christianity), while Ishmael, son of Hagar, is the ancestor of Arabs and a prophet in Islam, with both stories highlighting Abraham's covenant and God's blessings. Isaac and Ishmael, Abraham's sons, had a strained relationship, primarily initiated by Ishmael (older) "mocking" or "persecuting" toddler Isaac, leading Sarah to demand their expulsion; they later reunited briefly to bury their father, Abraham, with scripture sparse on their interactions, but traditions highlight their differing paths—Ishmael representing human effort (wild, free) and Isaac the promised blessing (faith, covenant), symbolizing ongoing spiritual contrasts between different spiritual paths. God designated Isaac as the heir for His covenant, leading to a complex situation where Abraham eventually sent Ishmael and his mother Hagar away, though God promised to make Ishmael a great nation too, showing divine favor for both lines, but a unique path for Isaac. Abraham's distress over banishing Ishmael shows his love for him, but his obedience to God's command to focus on Isaac for the covenant's continuation highlights a divine preference for Isaac's lineage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted 6 hours ago I didn’t know Australia had such a big problem with Islamists. Seems they are very up front about their hatred for the west and blatant anti semitism. And appeased by left wing weak as Fock politicians. And of course they had the grooming/ rape gangs. Always. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites