TimHauck

Trump also said Covid would disappear like 10 times. You don’t need to always believe what the President says. Both Trump and Biden are stupid.

Actually June 2021 just before Delta hit was the lowest cases of the pandemic until 2023. Further evidence the vaccines were working better before the variants.

Where did I say “only the vaccinated helped defeat the disease”? Hint: I didn’t. First of all, in relation to your earlier comment about society “functioning pretty much like it did pre Covid,” that’s referring to the fact that there isn’t much concern about Covid KILLING a significant number of people, thanks to vaccine and natural immunity. Covid is still out there, but people don’t really report positive tests anymore (nor should they). But the response you quoted was in relation to @nobody saying Covid INFECTIONS as a whole should’ve “petered out” if the vaccine was actually 95% effective. But the fact that many people were both unvaccinated and not previously infected made that even less likely to happen. Pre-Omicron, I’d estimate around 50% of unvaccinated adults had natural immunity. Again not including kids. Not sure what the point of your ramble about variants is. The Delta variant was one obvious exception to your claim. And the fact that somewhere around 90% of deaths during the Delta wave were unvaccinated is further proof that a significant number of those without natural immunity were also unvaccinated.

First you said it “would’ve petered out quickly” (direct quote) if the vaccines were actually 95% effective. Then you said “95% effective should actually mean what? Everyone gets it?” (direct quote) Sorry I don’t speak gaslighter

So no middle ground between “everyone gets it” and “should have petered out quickly”? Keep that gaslighting going

Nice try, you were posting in other threads

Diverge that much from what? Your asinine claim that Covid “should have petered out quickly”? Before the mandates, I believe we only had something like 2/3 of adults vaccinated, obviously not counting kids, not sure what makes you think it should have “petered out quickly.” Of course in addition to vaccines being far less effective against Omicron infection, natural immunity was far less effective against Omicron infection as well. Remember when @lod001 said it was impossible to get reinfected? He eventually admitted the variants changed that. What a gaslighter!

You asked for links focktard, I provided them and then you disappeared

Well you already displayed twice you don’t know what vaccine effectiveness is, so you don’t know what you saw either

There were some people that said “you won’t get it,” and they were wrong as I’ve said in the past, because by definition it being 95% effective means you can get (and again, that doesn’t mean “95% of people won’t get it). Most of the people that said that however were not scientists, such as Biden and Rachel Maddow. The one possible exception being Walensky, I forget exactly what she said. Fauci gets lumped in there because he said it like once and was likely taken out of context, but he gave dozens of interviews about it and in pretty much all of them would call out the 95%. And of course as I posted earlier which made @Baker Boy disappear, in addition to the trials, there were multiple real-world studies that also found it ~95% effective (I’m sure you’ll find something wrong with them meanwhile complain if I dispute a fraudulent ivermectin study). And even with Delta it was still ~60-80% effective, so it wasn’t “waaay” less than 95% until like 6+ months after most people’s initial doses, not 2.

So are you denying it was ever 95% effective? You don’t understand how vaccine effectiveness is calculated. To be 95% effective, means you have a 95% less chance of catching it than an unvaccinated (and not previously infected) person. It doesn’t mean only 5% of vaccinated people will ever catch it.

I guess that’s a no, @Horseman (and the 3 people that “thanked” his post) won’t admit he’s wrong, not surprised.

Honestly 25% having ANY is less than I would have guessed. How many of that 25% has like $1000 or less of it?

It will be interesting to see how much the “manifesto” is considered as evidence. Apparently Ye specifically wrote “this is fiction” at the beginning. Sounds like there is other evidence that they were potentially planning to kill people, but I feel like someone being charged because of a “fictional work” is something @jonmx would consider to be part of the government’s plot to control us all or whatever nonsense he usually spouts