MDC 5,891 Posted April 4, 2012 For those of you who are going to vote for Obummer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 4, 2012 For those of you who are going to vote for Obummer. You are an Army of One. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted April 4, 2012 You are an Army of One. I'm not voting Obummer - this thread is for other people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted April 4, 2012 I am not, but once again I am not exactly thrilled about what the other side is presenting. It's better than McCain I admit, but not much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted April 4, 2012 Can you change the thread title to something more along the lines of There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again. :banana: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted April 4, 2012 Free hoodies for every white Latino Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted April 4, 2012 I am not, but once again I am not exactly thrilled about what the other side is presenting. It's better than McCain I admit, but not much. Is Romney really better than McCain at all? I'd call it mostly a push. McCain looks a lot worse to me because of his awful choice in running mate. Otherwise he was a rock of stability compared to Mitt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 4, 2012 Free hoodies for every white Latino I like cruzer, I don't whant to see him get shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 4, 2012 I'll vote for Obama over Romney for the simple reason that Mitt will be the wealthiest president in this country's history, so it's obvious who he's going to coddle and make changes to favor. The last thing this country needs is even more separation between the filthy rich and everyone else. However, if I find out Obama has actually murdered/threatened to murder all these people Little Rusty and BudBro claim he has, I'm going to be very angry and disappointed in him and may vote the other way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 4, 2012 I'll vote for Obama over Romney for the simple reason that Mitt will be the wealthiest president in this country's history, so it's obvious who he's going to coddle and make changes to favor. The last thing this country needs is even more separation between the filthy rich and everyone else. However, if I find out Obama has actually murdered/threatened to murder all these people Little Rusty and BudBro claim he has, I'm going to be very angry and disappointed in him and may vote the other way. So you're saying you'd rather have more separation between races than income in our country, gotcha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted April 4, 2012 One "maybe" so far. Looks like he is a lock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Pope 8 Posted April 4, 2012 Nope. Not again. With as many of Bush's policy's Obama has kept, he might as well be named George W. Obama. Guess I'll write in Ron Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 4, 2012 So you're saying you'd rather have more separation between races than income in our country, gotcha. Where did I say I want more separation between races?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 4, 2012 Nope. Not again. With as many of Bush's policy's Obama has kept, he might as well be named George W. Obama. Guess I'll write in Ron Paul. May as well write it on a piece of paper and throw it off a bridge. Wasted vote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 4, 2012 Where did I say I want more separation between races?? He's not know as the 'Great Divider' for nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted April 4, 2012 He's not know as the 'Great Divider' for nothing. If Obama would have aborted a son, it would look like Newbie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted April 4, 2012 I'll vote for Obama over Romney for the simple reason that Mitt will be the wealthiest president in this country's history, so it's obvious who he's going to coddle and make changes to favor. The last thing this country needs is even more separation between the filthy rich and everyone else. However, if I find out Obama has actually murdered/threatened to murder all these people Little Rusty and BudBro claim he has, I'm going to be very angry and disappointed in him and may vote the other way. wealth envy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 4, 2012 He's not know as the 'Great Divider' for nothing. There's not much he can do about the country's racists and the GOP's hatred for black men and instance on trying to make race such an issue. He's got bigger fish to fry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 4, 2012 wealth envy Neck envy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 4, 2012 George Washington was the wealthiest president.. I live in Texas so my vote doesn't count Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,559 Posted April 4, 2012 Sign me up. I'm not a fan of President Obama but he's not awful. My biggest issue with him is his deficit spending and his lack of seriousness in approaching entitlement reforms. On the plus side, Obama's foreign policy is great, he's not beholden to right wing retards, and he's been less bad now that the GOP Boehners him. Further, the GOP will control at least the House and probably the Senate next year so we need Obama in there to prevent another total disaster like we had last decade when the GOP ran everything. As for Mitt Romney, I won't vote for him no matter how vigorously he shakes his Etch-a-Sketch. The only thing consistent about him is his addiction to lying so it's not like he can say anything that I believe. I've got a complete lack of respect for how he forms his political "beliefs" , for how he's run his campaign and for being a douche. At least if he does win, there's a chance he could be a effective president. I don't know what he actually believes and I doubt he does either. I think he just makes up his beliefs as he goes along depending on what the polls, focus groups, marketing experts, and special interest donors tell him to believe. That sounds bad, it could be worse. He could be like Santorum and actually believe and follow through on the sh*t he says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted April 4, 2012 That sounds bad, it could be worse. He could be like Santorum and actually believe and follow through on the sh*t he says. The other day my wife, who is so liberal she makes me look like Ron Paul, said that she doesn't agree with Frothy Mix on a single thing but she respects his ideological consistency and the fact that he has principled core beliefs. I get what she's saying, but I think consistency is only a virtue if you're NOT a total dooshbag who's wrong about everything. That's like congratulating RP for being a welching, trolling phag for 10 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 4, 2012 Sign me up. I'm not a fan of President Obama but he's not awful. My biggest issue with him is his deficit spending and his lack of seriousness in approaching entitlement reforms. On the plus side, Obama's foreign policy is great, he's not beholden to right wing retards, and he's been less bad now that the GOP Boehners him. Further, the GOP will control at least the House and probably the Senate next year so we need Obama in there to prevent another total disaster like we had last decade when the GOP ran everything. As for Mitt Romney, I won't vote for him no matter how vigorously he shakes his Etch-a-Sketch. The only thing consistent about him is his addiction to lying so it's not like he can say anything that I believe. I've got a complete lack of respect for how he forms his political "beliefs" , for how he's run his campaign and for being a douche. At least if he does win, there's a chance he could be a effective president. I don't know what he actually believes and I doubt he does either. I think he just makes up his beliefs as he goes along depending on what the polls, focus groups, marketing experts, and special interest donors tell him to believe. That sounds bad, it could be worse. He could be like Santorum and actually believe and follow through on the sh*t he says. You hit the nail on the head. The economy still isn't great and the GOP has a legitimate shot at making Obama a one term President if they could just come up with a decent candidate. All Obama's campaing team has to do is play videos of Romney's flip-flops back to back in a number of ads, and the entire country will realize he's just a lying opportunist. The Presidency is ripe for the picking, and the GOP doesn't have one single guy who's even adequate. Huge fail and blown opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 4, 2012 You hit the nail on the head. The economy still isn't great and the GOP has a legitimate shot at making Obama a one term President if they could just come up with a decent candidate. All Obama's campaing team has to do is play videos of Romney's flip-flops back to back in a number of ads, and the entire country will realize he's just a lying opportunist. The Presidency is ripe for the picking, and the GOP doesn't have one single guy who's even adequate. Huge fail and blown opportunity. When I was on the hill last year, it was a pretty common sentiment that they're waiting until 2016, they want to control the chambers of congress this election. It seems pretty obvious this is the case because all the candidates were crap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted April 4, 2012 When I was on the hill last year, it was a pretty common sentiment that they're waiting until 2016, they want to control the chambers of congress this election. It seems pretty obvious this is the case because all the candidates were crap So, nobody wants to be the "racist" who wins an election against a White-African-American? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted April 4, 2012 So, nobody wants to be the "racist" who wins an election against a White-African-American? Nobody who could get out of the GOP primary can win the general election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted April 4, 2012 Regardless of the issues and agendas of these two (Obama, Romney) - Mitt will not beat Obama simply because he's the "tin man", an "empty suit"... maybe that's true, maybe not - but it is the image he projects and it won't be enough for people to vote him in. As for policy? Mitt could actually be pretty good - despite his changing with the wind political strategies, he is a smart business man and a terrific manager - he did not do a horribe job as Gov. of MA. I believe a Mitt Presidency could make a lot of progress towards improving our economy and fixing some of the Govmt's financail woes - but a Mitt Presidency would certainly introdcue an interesting question: Do you really want your government run like a business? Do you want laws and public policy created based on the idea that what's profitable is what's implemented? I don't believe we'll ever see Mitt win (at least not against Obama) - Mitt has in image problem and Obama wins any election vs. Mitt in the U.S.A where elections are more about "The Bachelor", "American Idol", and "Who's Smarter than a 5th Grader" - Obama will kill him in this arena, Obama and his campaign are just better at winning elections in their current form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Pope 8 Posted April 4, 2012 May as well write it on a piece of paper and throw it off a bridge. Wasted vote I live in Florida, so really going to the polls is the same as throwing your vote off a bridge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flashover 0 Posted April 4, 2012 As for policy? Mitt could actually be pretty good - despite his changing with the wind political strategies, he is a smart business man and a terrific manager - he did not do a horribe job as Gov. of MA. Yup. His Affordable Healthcare worked pretty damn well. Do you really want your government run like a business? Do you want laws and public policy created based on the idea that what's profitable is what's implemented? Hell no! Not everything should be about profits. I want what's best for the American people not for corporations etc. People before profit. However Romney believes Corporations are people. And hell ya I'm voting for Obama! The GOP have been taken over by extremists. Reagan wouldn't even survive a GOP primary. The GOP have really gone over the deep end. Horrible policies, horrible candidates, too much pandering to the tea party & religious extremists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted April 4, 2012 Should change the title of the thread to "wool sale" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 4, 2012 Yup. His Affordable Healthcare worked pretty damn well. Hell no! Not everything should be about profits. I want what's best for the American people not for corporations etc. People before profit. However Romney believes Corporations are people. This will be his biggest downfall. If wealthy people got more thsan one vote each (which I'm sure a lot of conservatives wish was the case), he might stand a chance. But the country is comprised of too many lower middle class and poor people for guy like him to win. Sadly for Republicans, their vote counts just as much as the CEO of Exxon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 313 Posted April 4, 2012 I'm gonna vote for Obama because I'm apathetic, disenfranchised and basically disgusted with politics in general. Voltaire and Newbie are both right. The election is RIPE for the taking and the GOP can't find anybody better than Romney?? Obama will kill him with flip flopping attack ads. Plus when I vote for the chosen one, it helps expedite things. Instead of dragging this out for 20 years, lets get it over with. Run er ashore I say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,559 Posted April 4, 2012 This will be his biggest downfall. If wealthy people got more thsan one vote each (which I'm sure a lot of conservatives wish was the case), he might stand a chance. But the country is comprised of too many lower middle class and poor people for guy like him to win. Sadly for Republicans, their vote counts just as much as the CEO of Exxon. Then there are the morons who are even dumber than drobeski, who don't pay attention to anything, and just vote for whichever Super PAC runs the best ad or whichever candidate has the best hair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 4, 2012 Then there are the morons who are even dumber than drobeski Now THIS is a link I highly doubt you can provide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted April 4, 2012 This will be his biggest downfall. If wealthy people got more thsan one vote each (which I'm sure a lot of conservatives wish was the case), he might stand a chance. But the country is comprised of too many lower middle class and poor people for guy like him to win. Sadly for Republicans, their vote counts just as much as the CEO of Exxon. “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.” - Alexis de Tocqueville "When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." - Ben Franklin "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money," - Margaret Thatcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted April 4, 2012 Then there are the morons who are even dumber than drobeski, who don't pay attention to anything, and just vote for whichever Super PAC runs the best ad or whichever candidate has the best hair. Says the communist who's daddy won't let him watch YouTube Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,559 Posted April 4, 2012 Now THIS is a link I highly doubt you can provide. We should all be grateful that people like my sister don't vote. It'd be tragic if the intelligence of the electorate were watered down even worse than it is already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 4, 2012 “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.” - Alexis de Tocqueville "When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." - Ben Franklin "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money," - Margaret Thatcher "People who don't even have a focking job and contribute to society are often the ones who shoot their mouths off the most" -Keith Partridge "Old men who get bored watching Matlock reruns, like to pretend the know something on message boards." -Bill Bixby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,559 Posted April 4, 2012 Says the communist who's daddy won't let him watch YouTube That was sort of a compliment. I was including you in the informed segment of the population. You're just inside the cutoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted April 4, 2012 We should all be grateful that people like my sister don't vote. It'd be tragic if the intelligence of the electorate were watered down even worse than it is already. If daddy let's you watch this, is your sister this smart ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites