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Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
IGotWorms replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
You brought up trans in your OP. Do you even understand your own posts? And of course it’s about trans because that’s your morality concern. What else would it be? But no, do get to that replacement thread because that’s what you really mean. The existence of trans people is not an “existential threat” to this nation and you know it. I’ll look forward to your “nuance” aka rationalizing your racist beliefs -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
jerryskids replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
It does not surprise me that you would consider my discussion in this thread "transphobic," given my model of you being a 12 year old who gets all of his/her news from TikTok. Also, I know it isn't about trans, because I said so in my OP, which you either didn't read or can't comprehend. Replacement is a different topic, perhaps I'll start a thread on that. Unfortunately, my thoughts on it are nuanced, and you lack nuance, so you will leap to the "yur a raciss!" card regardless of what I say. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
MDC replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
Most of the seemingly limitless tranny memes and threads your ilk post here have nothing to do with kids and just vaguely imply that trans people are mentally ill or a danger to people. This issue takes up way more mental headspace among your ilk than it deserves. Pretty weird if you ask me. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
MDC replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
I live in a major northeast liberal city and see someone who is identifiably trans maybe once a month. But at the GC I’ve seen about 347,982 tranny memes. Every one of them is posted by your ilk and they all imply that these people are mentally ill and/or violent pedophiles. Many Republicans obviously hate and are turned on by trannies. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
IGotWorms replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
So I called the transphobia but where’s the racism? Y’all are dancing around it with the “Judeo Christian nation” stuff, and RLLD is, as usual, leading the charge for outright saying it, but you haven’t gotten there yet. Cmon, you know you want to. Jerry you know this isn’t about trans. That’s a side issue. One that gets you guys going, yes, but it isn’t the real root of your concern. What’s really got you worked up is that “replacement” thing, no? -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
Fnord replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
I'm not an HR Manager but I do hire and manage personnel. I hired a trans woman. FTR, I did not know she was trans until after her hire. In the interview she used her given male name. We assumed he was gay, not a she. We were concerned when we found out, and that she wanted to use the women's locker room. Long story short, she's integrated well and while there have been some minor challenges, overall it's been a positive experience. You find out that they're just people. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
jerryskids replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
That's it for now. But I'm not sure you understand what you just agreed to, given that you consider "acceptance" of trans people a moral absolute. You agreed to a biological male who considers himself a female, NOT being in female safe spaces, if they still have boy parts. Go back and re-read if you'd like to change your position. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
MDC replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
That’s what I want to know. Nobody is policing public bathrooms. Or at least they weren’t until the trans hysteria. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
jerryskids replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
Thanks. I don't necessarily disagree, as I am fairly libertarian in my thinking. The challenge is, for this model to work, there needs to be an underlying acceptance of what is "harm." And a general selflessness or deference to the needs of others, which I believe we lack in our current hedonistic society (and might be part of a future installment of "cultural existential threats." ) For instance, to me, a biological man competing in women's sports is clearly doing harm to the other women. As is such a person being in a woman's locker room, spa, prison, even bathroom, if one is to err on the side of consideration for others. I've used before the example of my daughter with Type 1 diabetes. She is free to pursue whatever she wants... with restrictions. She can't join the military, for instance. Becoming a pilot or commercial truck driver is extremely difficult. This is how I view trans people. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
jerryskids replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
You are truly a blithering idiot. You claimed this thread was based on trans issues. I pointed out that in the OP, I specifically said that the problem is not these specific issues but the trend of increased moral relativism. You deflected with some pablum about "data points" (another phrase I didn't use). I tried to steer you back to your inability to read the OP and have an intelligent discussion. You then accused me of deflecting above. It is true, people are reading these exchanges and drawing conclusions. It's not what you think, however. I'm once again amazed by your utter and complete lack of self-awareness. I think you honestly think you are winning something here. I feel sorry for you. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
BudBro replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
Ok. I won't put words in your mouth, but will suggest that common sense and cultural norms can be seen in two radically opposed political parties. You expressed opposition for the trans in your wife's locker room, yet you seem to support the political party which encourages the degeneration of moral norms that end up with d*&ks out in the locker room. That, seemingly, is a conflict...or hypocrisy (or, just play acting on the bored so you can f**k with people). Either way, the argument seems to dissipate into which political party best keeps the slope the most dry. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
BeachGuy23 replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
What leads you to believe I'm fine with it? I literally said trans don't belong near women in naked or potential naked situations. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
jerryskids replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
I appreciate the response. Regarding the trans, in my OP I specifically said sports and safe spaces. Locker rooms, spas, prisons (odd to call that a "safe space," but you get it). I said nothing about using pronouns or preferred names, which BTW I've done in the past with trans people I've known. To me that is common courtesy to an individual, but I see that as a personal decision which is NOT a moral absolute in either direction, and as such I oppose any newspeak legislation, for instance. I also agree with most of your Palestinian bullets, except perhaps your last one. I have no problem with the moral absolutism that the things I laid out regarding the treatment of women (and LGBTQ) are morally wrong. We could also discuss what makes a human "garbage," but I don't want to go down that rathole. Let's just say that I believe that the vast majority of Palestinians, other than the youngest of children, have been brainwashed beyond redemption into beliefs which are anathema to being a peaceful, contributing society. I value life so I don't support wanton killing of them. As I type this, I think the real challenge to my OP premise is: who defines the moral absolutes? This brings in the concept of a Judeo-Christian underpinning -- even if you don't believe in the God part, the ten commandments and the teachings of Jesus are a pretty good basis for a society IMO. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
Fnord replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
Good question. I hope I never have to find out the answer. The reality is that if that happened our resident trans would find themselves in a fuckton of trouble. They'd be fired and prosecuted. That's not going to be of much comfort to the victim though. I'll just have to trust that she is no more prone to that sort of display than any other person would be. And I will re-emphasize: locker room integration has not been a problem, nor has this individual's "lifestyle choices." She has been nothing but respectful toward her coworkers, as far as I know. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
BeachGuy23 replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
I agree. Trans people have no right to be around natural women in naked situations. That said, it's very very very very far from an "existential threat to our society" as the slimy salesman OP would have you believe. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
BudBro replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
Trans is sexual fetish. Though I don't know yours, nor you know mine, it's important that neither us have the "right" to impose it on a societal scale. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
BeachGuy23 replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
I'd say maybe 10% of adult women ever visit locker rooms. And of that maybe .000001% will have to deal with a trans. BUT IT'S AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO OUR SOCIETY!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
TheNewGirl replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
Curious if your stance on any of this will change if one of those women that you told to "STFU" is sexually assaulted or harassed by said trans woman while in this locker room? Not even that, if the trans woman finds it necessary to walk around naked showing their p3nis to everyone all the time. You'd find this okay? Or the biological females should just continue to STFU even if it makes them uncomfortable? -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
Fnord replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
Jesus. I get where you're coming from but shockingly disagree with you. IMO in your trans example is specious. I don't think any trans people GAF about being 100% accepted, they just want to be left alone and treated with basic human respect. I believe that calling by their preferred name or pronoun is exactly that. If someone has a problem with that, it is indeed THEIR problem, not the problem of the trans individual. Here's one that will surprise you: one could look at the trans individuals themselves as oppressors to an extent. While I am supportive of trans rights like the good little mindless lib you believe me to be, I do have concerns for those whose rights are being infringed upon. You focus on men in women's sports, but I'm with Tim and consider that to be such a ridiculously small problem that it doesn't register. A bigger problem is what I have personally experienced in the workplace: a transsexual woman (biological man) using the women's locker room. Being that I work somewhere awesome with awesome employees, it hasn't been a huge issue, but the fact is that I was in a position where I had to tell a couple dozen women that they essentially had to STFU and deal with the fact that this new employee was going to be using their locker room. And while it has worked out okay, the fact that I had to do that gave me pause. No such thing as black and white. As for the Israel/Palestine situation, please. I can recognize multiple truths at the same time: Hamas is evil and should be wiped out. Not every Palestinian supports Hamas, especially the young children. Israel is perfectly justified in retaliating and me being okay with it doesn't make me an Islamaphobe. Netenyahu is a questionable leader with a scummy past that may be in the process of carrying out genocide, so maybe we oughtta look into that and make sure it doesn't happen just because "God's chosen people" are pissed off. I can support the Palestinians that are suffering and question Zionism without being antisemitic and also recognize that while I think their Muslim religion is garbage, they as humans are not. I disagree with the tenets of most religion, but who am I (and who are you) to tell someone their religious beliefs are immoral, wicked, or wrong? You're encroaching on @weepaws territory here. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
jerryskids replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
The trans people are absolutely the oppressed. They are the very definition of oppressed. The oppressors is a little more nuanced -- it is those who oppose anything but 100% treatment of biological men as women. And it is absolutely moral relativism to say that the rest of us should adopt to their desires; specifically in my example, their desire to be in girls' sports and safe spaces. If you look up moral relativism in the dictionary, you very well may find the Palestinian situation. I don't know if there ever has been a more clear moral absolute. And it is clearly an oppressed/oppressor situation. In fact, support from the Left of the cultures in many Islamic-ruled countries requires a heaping dose of moral relativism. Women in these cultures are property. They don't walk outside alone for fear of being raped. If they are raped, it is the woman's fault and her family will shun her. They aren't allowed to get educated. And of course we know how LGBTQ folks are treated there. And the Left is like, oh well, that's just how they roll. It's disgusting and makes no sense other than moral relativism. -
Cultural existential threat: Marxism and Moral Relativism
The Real timschochet replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
Your two examples of moral relativism don’t really hold up IMO: Regarding your first example, all we’re doing is giving trans women recognition as women. There is no oppressed, and no oppressing force, there is no Marxism involved, sexual or otherwise. I regard this as a matter of individual liberty. But even if you take the opposing view, this isn’t large enough an issue to reflect on society as a whole, IMO. Regarding your second example: that is not an either or situation. One can support Palestinian rights and at the same time support the State of Israel. This is in fact my position. I don’t see any contradiction at all; in fact, I think that securing Palestinian rights (and an eventual state) is vital to Israel’s security and long term interests. Once again I don’t think moral relativism, or Marxism, are involved. -
When I saw people were offended I figured there were biracial trans men focking or something. (Maybe the absence of that is why they do not like it.) Either way if that ad bothers you then you are in trouble.
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Hardcore troubadour replied to HellToupee's topic in The Geek Club
Biden admin getting ready to make it mandatory that schools allow trans (fake) girls to use the same locker room and shower facilities as normal girls. Libtards here, some of them fathers of girls, are good with this. They are not men. We need the Alpha back to put an end to this disgusting ideology. -
I find it hard to not see trans as mental illness...
Fireballer replied to Fireballer's topic in The Geek Club
There’s no reason this shouldn’t be widely accepted. Companies like Hasbro and Mattel should go the way of Bud Light and Mulvaney and have these trans aged people as spokespeople. Prove me wrong. -
I think you expect far to much from a board that very rarely takes anything seriously and has a juvenile sense of humor for pretty much everything. We have a dead pool for christ sake. If someone posts something they should just assume that the replies will contain some off color jokes. This place is like an 8th grade locker room and men typically have a different sense of humor based on our lived experience. Also, the idea that a woman would choose a bear is absurd and more of a thought experiment created to make men feel bad. Given the choice in REAL LIFE there is a near ZERO percent chance that if a woman had to choose between walking in the direction of a bear or a random man they choose the bear. ZERO. It is a thought experiment that leads to delusional women believing a bear is going to be safer. And, the same women who say they would rather be in the woods with a bear are also perfectly fine with a strange man in the women's bathroom. As long as that man FEELS like he is a woman. Just keep that in mind as more women support trans rights than men. Finally, the joke. It would make sense for women to pick a bear over a random man. Bear is over 6ft tall, Violent, has multiple babies, is extremely violent. Right in the wheelhouse of what far too many women look for.
