Dog Face Gremlins211 0 Posted April 17, 2006 The Denver Rocky Mountain News reports the Cincinnati Bengals, Green Bay Packers, Miami Dolphins, Jacksonville Jaguars and New York Giants are in the running for LB LaVar Arrington, who was scheduled to have a $12.045 million salary cap number before being released by Washington. He paid back $4.4 million to the Redskins in order to get his release and become a free agent, then reportedly asked for a seven-year, $54 million contract from the Giants. "We have an interest in LaVar," Bengals HC Marvin Lewis said. http://www.ffmastermind.com/quickbits.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Arrington would have made more money staying in DC... His agent is a Idiot for letting him give back money without a contract ready to go!! If any athlete signs with the Postons they should SERIOUSLY get their head examined Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted April 17, 2006 $7.7 mil for a LB who is hurt half the time? Eh..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdubz 0 Posted April 17, 2006 the giants need to do this a few thousand times if they gave him 54 mil over 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 17, 2006 okay, i want $54 million, too. hey, it doesn't hurt to ask... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted April 17, 2006 He was awesome at PSU, but really...isn't he just all hype since he has been in the NFL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted April 17, 2006 The Seahawks signed Julian Peterson to a 7 year, 54 million deal. Peterson and Arrington are both represented by the Postons. Coincidence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timinator 0 Posted April 17, 2006 The Packers need to spend, say, $54 million yet. Maybe even to hit the minimum. Arrington is one of the few guys I've ever seen knock Favre out of a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted April 17, 2006 If the Giants spend 50+ million on this dude, I'm gonna start rooting for the Jets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted April 17, 2006 If the Giants spend 50+ million on this dude, I'm gonna start rooting for the Jets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 17, 2006 The Packers need to spend, say, $54 million yet. Maybe even to hit the minimum. Arrington is one of the few guys I've ever seen knock Favre out of a game. green bay could attract free agents--top notch free agents--pretty consistently when they were winning...but there's not a lot to attract them when the team is rebuilding and favre's status is iffy. i read an article where longwell blasted green bay saying that when he and his wife went out the only place to go eat was applebees. players look at that kind of stuff. they will look the other way sometimes if the franchise is doing well, but they won't look the other way on that stuff if the franchise is facing an iffy future in the win column. they can be bought at times in such an environment (i.e. a team over-paying). hey, before green bay-ites shoot me i will say i like green bay as a town. just saying what the nfl players think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 17, 2006 green bay could attract free agents--top notch free agents--pretty consistently when they were winning...but there's not a lot to attract them when the team is rebuilding and favre's status is iffy. i read an article where longwell blasted green bay saying that when he and his wife went out the only place to go eat was applebees. players look at that kind of stuff. they will look the other way sometimes if the franchise is doing well, but they won't look the other way on that stuff if the franchise is facing an iffy future in the win column. they can be bought at times in such an environment (i.e. a team over-paying). hey, before green bay-ites shoot me i will say i like green bay as a town. just saying what the nfl players think. Longwell did not get out much then. One thing that surrounding area has alot of...is places to eat. But you do not get a large amount of the chains...you actually have to go to local restaraunts...oh no.... Between Green Bay, Appleton, Oshkosh, Kimberly, Kaukauna, Little Chute, Neenah/Menasha...there is a ton of great places to eat. (though Oshkosh is a bit of a drive from Green Bay, I had to mention it because the Roxy in Oshkosh is probably my favorite place to eat in the area) But hey...sounds like Longwell likes Applebees. And it was not what "players" think...it was what you heard Longwell thinks. And I doubt players look at what some kicker thinks and say to themselves...I could call so and so and ask them...but I will take Ryan Longwell's word for it and think that all they have is an Applebees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Longwell did not get out much then. One thing that surrounding area has alot of...is places to eat. But you do not get a large amount of the chains...you actually have to go to local restaraunts...oh no.... Between Green Bay, Appleton, Oshkosh, Kimberly, Kaukauna, Little Chute, Neenah/Menasha...there is a ton of great places to eat. But hey...sounds like Longwell likes Applebees. well, maybe you can write one of your treatises to longwell and take him down point by point. i'm sure the vikings front office can put you in touch with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 17, 2006 well, maybe you can write one of your treatises to longwell and take him down point by point. i'm sure the vikings front office can put you in touch with him. Yeah...I will get right on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeso 0 Posted April 17, 2006 He was awesome at PSU, but really...isn't he just all hype since he has been in the NFL? yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 40 Posted April 17, 2006 i read an article where longwell blasted green bay saying that when he and his wife went out the only place to go eat was applebees. players look at that kind of stuff. they will look the other way sometimes if the franchise is doing well, but they won't look the other way on that stuff if the franchise is facing an iffy future in the win column. they can be bought at times in such an environment (i.e. a team over-paying). hey, before green bay-ites shoot me i will say i like green bay as a town. just saying what the nfl players think. All generalizations are wrong including this one. Most players do not live in the city they play in during the off season anyway. Having lived all over the country myself, there are more factors that go into the decision making process than I would care to post (or anyone would care to read). How many Applebee clones there are is not on my list. "i read an article where longwell blasted green bay saying that when he and his wife went out the only place to go eat was applebees" Please post a link. If you can't, your credibility is suspect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted April 17, 2006 green bay could attract free agents--top notch free agents--pretty consistently when they were winning...but there's not a lot to attract them when the team is rebuilding and favre's status is iffy. i read an article where longwell blasted green bay saying that when he and his wife went out the only place to go eat was applebees. players look at that kind of stuff. they will look the other way sometimes if the franchise is doing well, but they won't look the other way on that stuff if the franchise is facing an iffy future in the win column. they can be bought at times in such an environment (i.e. a team over-paying). hey, before green bay-ites shoot me i will say i like green bay as a town. just saying what the nfl players think. I read an article where Longwell and his posse couldn't go clubbin' like he was used to and that's why he left. While I understand your point, especially for African Americans who like bigger cities, it's just silly with Longwell. He's one of the homliest dudes in the NFL. Your big name stars looking to sign in free agencies are millionaires many times over. They can go wherever in the world whenever they want, and most of them do. Most spend their off-seasons wherever they like. The restaurants in Green Bay are simply not a factor in free agency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted April 17, 2006 Longwell did not get out much then. One thing that surrounding area has alot of...is places to eat. But you do not get a large amount of the chains...you actually have to go to local restaraunts...oh no.... Between Green Bay, Appleton, Oshkosh, Kimberly, Kaukauna, Little Chute, Neenah/Menasha...there is a ton of great places to eat. (though Oshkosh is a bit of a drive from Green Bay, I had to mention it because the Roxy in Oshkosh is probably my favorite place to eat in the area) But hey...sounds like Longwell likes Applebees. And it was not what "players" think...it was what you heard Longwell thinks. And I doubt players look at what some kicker thinks and say to themselves...I could call so and so and ask them...but I will take Ryan Longwell's word for it and think that all they have is an Applebees. I ate at the Roxy last week and the food and service were great. I heard the interview with Longwell and the quote is accurate. I don't know what it was with him but starting last year he turned into a big complainer, blaming everyone else for his missed kicks, etc. I think it was time for him to leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 17, 2006 All generalizations are wrong including this one. Most players do not live in the city they play in during the off season anyway. Having lived all over the country myself, there are more factors that go into the decision making process than I would care to post (or anyone would care to read). How many Applebee clones there are is not on my list. "i read an article where longwell blasted green bay saying that when he and his wife went out the only place to go eat was applebees" Please post a link. If you can't, your credibility is suspect. it was the green bay gazette, i believe. about two weeks ago. sorry, i didn't save it or bookmark it just so i could provide you a link. but if you're ambitious, you can find it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted April 17, 2006 Good luck Arrington. He might be able to pull something off in the neighborhood of $50, but that's alot for a lb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 18, 2006 If you can't, your credibility is suspect. Ummm...even if Swamp posts a link...he still has not credibility here. I ate at the Roxy last week and the food and service were great. Damn good seafood...stir fry is excellent too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 18, 2006 All generalizations are wrong including this one. Most players do not live in the city they play in during the off season anyway. Having lived all over the country myself, there are more factors that go into the decision making process than I would care to post (or anyone would care to read). How many Applebee clones there are is not on my list. "i read an article where longwell blasted green bay saying that when he and his wife went out the only place to go eat was applebees" Please post a link. If you can't, your credibility is suspect. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/s...re/14139409.htm enjoy (i originally read the quote in the green bay paper, although this link is to the interview where it was originally published). Ummm...even if Swamp posts a link...he still has not credibility here.Damn good seafood...stir fry is excellent too. you're right--how i could have imagined the packers winning 5-8 games last year is beyond me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROBOKOP 0 Posted April 18, 2006 green bay could attract free agents--top notch free agents--pretty consistently when they were winning...but there's not a lot to attract them when the team is rebuilding and favre's status is iffy. i read an article where longwell blasted green bay saying that when he and his wife went out the only place to go eat was applebees. players look at that kind of stuff. they will look the other way sometimes if the franchise is doing well, but they won't look the other way on that stuff if the franchise is facing an iffy future in the win column. they can be bought at times in such an environment (i.e. a team over-paying). hey, before green bay-ites shoot me i will say i like green bay as a town. just saying what the nfl players think. There are plenty of good places to eat in the Green Bay area. I have never had a complaint eating out in Green Bay, be it the chain places like Olive garden and Red Lobster or some other places like Victorias for Italian or Roxy. Now Im getting hungry, cant get a good bite to eat in Northern WI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 40 Posted April 18, 2006 it was the green bay gazette, i believe. about two weeks ago. sorry, i didn't save it or bookmark it just so i could provide you a link. but if you're ambitious, you can find it. Ah, you ask me to prove you wrong and suggest I sould waste my time doing so instead of you backing up your assertion. One word, LAME. From Sho: "Ummm...even if Swamp posts a link...he still has not credibility here." Uh, yeah. I have owned him in other threads as have you. He hates everyone in NFLN and will argue/attack anyone because of his Laydown frustrations. It's tough to be a year after year loser. "I've always been curious how I would do kicking in a domed stadium. I know for a fact there are kicks I missed at Lambeau that I hit well and guessed wrong with the wind. Or there were kicks when I slipped on the field and missed. I'm curious like everyone else what I can do in the Metrodome. I'm looking forward to being able to swing away and know my foot is going to stick in the ground. And I don't have to play the wind." Guess Swamp Thing missed this part, it's in the second paragraph. Longwell has a chance to be the leading all time % kicker in the NFL. Gee, I wonder why he wants to spend his last few years kicking in a dome? "Every town in America has an Applebee's restaurant. In Green Bay, Applebee's was about as fancy as you got. When my wife, Sarah, and I would get a baby sitter, a nice date night was Applebee's. In Minnesota, I'm sure there will be plenty of options before Applebee's comes into the rotation." Longwell must have very pedestrian tastes if this is what he thinks of gastronomic pleasure. Only way I would eat at an Applebee's is if it's free. Here's a thought, Longwell does not want to be seen in any of the better restuarants in the area with his wife because that's where he ######'s around. BTW, thanks for doing your own research instead of expecting me to do it for you. See you next Feb as always ("Confident Joey Harrinton") you will be gone by end of Sept. Also, he lives in Orlando as your link states. As I stated earlier. NFL players rarely live in the cities that they play for. It matters little if at all. Quit your hating, your comments on non NFCN may have more credibilty/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 71 Posted April 18, 2006 I watched a small segment on some sports show that basically validates what swamp is saying. The dudes that really had it rough were the black guys, even if they weren't clubbers. One said they couldn't go anywhere because if you were black, had some size on you, and lived in GB...everyone just assumed you played for the Pack. Somone actually invited a cousin to go hang out at the mall and peeps were lining up to get the autograph of a janitor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 18, 2006 Ah, you ask me to prove you wrong and suggest I sould waste my time doing so instead of you backing up your assertion. One word, LAME. From Sho: "Ummm...even if Swamp posts a link...he still has not credibility here." Uh, yeah. I have owned him in other threads as have you. He hates everyone in NFLN and will argue/attack anyone because of his Laydown frustrations. It's tough to be a year after year loser. "I've always been curious how I would do kicking in a domed stadium. I know for a fact there are kicks I missed at Lambeau that I hit well and guessed wrong with the wind. Or there were kicks when I slipped on the field and missed. I'm curious like everyone else what I can do in the Metrodome. I'm looking forward to being able to swing away and know my foot is going to stick in the ground. And I don't have to play the wind." Guess Swamp Thing missed this part, it's in the second paragraph. Longwell has a chance to be the leading all time % kicker in the NFL. Gee, I wonder why he wants to spend his last few years kicking in a dome? "Every town in America has an Applebee's restaurant. In Green Bay, Applebee's was about as fancy as you got. When my wife, Sarah, and I would get a baby sitter, a nice date night was Applebee's. In Minnesota, I'm sure there will be plenty of options before Applebee's comes into the rotation." Longwell must have very pedestrian tastes if this is what he thinks of gastronomic pleasure. Only way I would eat at an Applebee's is if it's free. Here's a thought, Longwell does not want to be seen in any of the better restuarants in the area with his wife because that's where he ######'s around. BTW, thanks for doing your own research instead of expecting me to do it for you. See you next Feb as always ("Confident Joey Harrinton") you will be gone by end of Sept. Also, he lives in Orlando as your link states. As I stated earlier. NFL players rarely live in the cities that they play for. It matters little if at all. Quit your hating, your comments on non NFCN may have more credibilty/ pretty long treatise. simply admit you stuck your foot in your mouth and move on. you wanted the applebee quote--accused me of fabricating it. i gave you the link. swallow your pride, zip it, learn from it, and move on. There are plenty of good places to eat in the Green Bay area. I have never had a complaint eating out in Green Bay, be it the chain places like Olive garden and Red Lobster or some other places like Victorias for Italian or Roxy. Now Im getting hungry, cant get a good bite to eat in Northern WI. i agree. again, i never said it--longwell did. the whole point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 18, 2006 I watched a small segment on some sports show that basically validates what swamp is saying. The dudes that really had it rough were the black guys, even if they weren't clubbers. One said they couldn't go anywhere because if you were black, had some size on you, and lived in GB...everyone just assumed you played for the Pack. Somone actually invited a cousin to go hang out at the mall and peeps were lining up to get the autograph of a janitor. Yes...it is harder on the minority players. They have long talked about his...not just clubs...barbers...different food. The Packers have brought people in from Milwaukee to deal with that in the past. But how much of that played a part in if a player wanted to play for the Packers or not? That is the part that I find to not be valid at all. There are plenty of good places to eat in the Green Bay area. I have never had a complaint eating out in Green Bay, be it the chain places like Olive garden and Red Lobster or some other places like Victorias for Italian or Roxy. Now Im getting hungry, cant get a good bite to eat in Northern WI. Ooooh...forgot about Victorias... And if he wants fancy...Georges in Appleton....the Red Ox.... Both damn good too...I recommend the Crisper steak at Georges...I do not think it is on the menu anymore. Italian breaded and fried...really not good for you, but worth the try from time to time. At the Red Ox nothing beats their Broiled Haddock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoffdaddy 1 Posted April 18, 2006 Ryan Longwell is a ######. Can we get back Arrington's outrageous contract demands? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 18, 2006 Ryan Longwell is a ######. Can we get back Arrington's outrageous contract demands? yes, they are outrageous. but if he holds out until summer and some team with a lot of $$ suffers a couple of bad injuries...somebody will end up giving him a fat contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoffdaddy 1 Posted April 18, 2006 yes, they are outrageous. but if he holds out until summer and some team with a lot of $$ suffers a couple of bad injuries...somebody will end up giving him a fat contract. I'm not so sure about that. If a team is looking at him in the summer, wouldn't it stand to reason that most of their cap money will be dried up? I know that's not always the case, but it may be hard for him to demand a big payday at that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 18, 2006 I'm not so sure about that. If a team is looking at him in the summer, wouldn't it stand to reason that most of their cap money will be dried up? I know that's not always the case, but it may be hard for him to demand a big payday at that point. in most years, yes, but there are more than a few teams that are ten of millions of dollars under the cap--and will still be comfortably so even after signing draft picks. sure, it's a smaller market the longer it goes on...but the desperation level also increases for some of these teams, especially a team poised to do well that suffers a key training camp injury. i'm sure arrington and these others want to get a contract as soon as possible--but if he doesn't, i'm simply suggesting there still is some leverage for him to exploit in the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcgangstas 41 Posted April 18, 2006 LaVar Arrington is SO not worth $54 million over 7 years. Other than Mike Vick, there may not be a player in the league that's more overrated than LA. Great athleticism without great INSTINCT makes for a mediocre Linebacker in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esoitl 0 Posted April 19, 2006 LaVar Arrington is SO not worth $54 million over 7 years. Other than Mike Vick, there may not be a player in the league that's more overrated than LA. Great athleticism without great INSTINCT makes for a mediocre Linebacker in my book. IMO he has good instints, he just doesnt follow the designs of the defense he free lances way too much and usually ends up in the wrong spot or taking on blockers he shouldnt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites