esoitl 0 Posted April 30, 2006 i think it is obvious to all but the most ludicrous homers that Buffalo has had the worst draft so far but who falls in behind them? my vote is for St. Louis not sure why they got 2 TEs first day and im not too crazy about the lack of big defensive names after Hill honorable mention goes to Tennessee for picking White and Washington for not picking at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DixieDevils 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Washington had one pick in the 2nd round, after trading up and giving up next year's 2nd-rounder. WHY? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esoitl 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Washington had one pick in the 2nd round, after trading up and giving up next year's 2nd-rounder. WHY? why did i rate them bad? it was a joke, just nothing to talk about with them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted April 30, 2006 After the middle of the second, the Vikings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 30, 2006 the bears draft has been underwhelming for me so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DixieDevils 0 Posted April 30, 2006 why did i rate them bad?it was a joke, just nothing to talk about with them I agree with you. I ask why in Why did Washington give up a 2nd-rounder next year? My gosh, can Daniel Snyder learn to love the draft? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ERIC-THE-RED 0 Posted April 30, 2006 I think the vikings should get a mention. Even though they adreesed needs , other then Cook. It was how they did it, trading away two # 3rd round picks to grab a Questionable Qb that would have been a low 3rd to a high 4th pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rye & Leaf 0 Posted April 30, 2006 i think it is obvious to all but the most ludicrous homers that Buffalo has had the worst draft so far but who falls in behind them? my vote is for St. Louis not sure why they got 2 TEs first day and im not too crazy about the lack of big defensive names after Hill honorable mention goes to Tennessee for picking White and Washington for not picking at all You have to be a jets homer. They are doing well with the draft, as if i had to even mention that. I disagree with your Buffalo assessment. The previous regime left this team in shambles. If you want to see a worse draft, look who the Bills drafted in 2005. This team has some glaring holes on defense and doesn't have the luxury of just picking the best player on the board. The first two guys they picked will probably start and youboty might be a starter if clements holds out for a long term deal, which he doesn't deserve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 30, 2006 Tennessee bad for taking White? Character issues are a good reason to drop out of the first. But this guy when motivated is possibly the 2nd best RB in this draft. Pretty sure with Chow around they asked if he would be a problem and Chow should know...and know how to use him and how to motivate him. As a Titans season ticket holder and sort of fan...I thought it was a great pick at that spot...and the Young pick while not safe...sure has alot of possible upside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted April 30, 2006 I think the vikings should get a mention. Even though they adreesed needs , other then Cook. It was how they did it, trading away two # 3rd round picks to grab a Questionable Qb that would have been a low 3rd to a high 4th pick. I will state they addressed needs in the second round. Grant on that. But in each case they reached for a guy they could have taken later. And the first two are both tweeners and utility guys. But with Tarvarius Jackson ???????????????????????????????????????????? That one stupid trade for a "who are you" pick took a grade C 2nd round to a grade D- and an grade F for the 3rd. They still need to look at safety, If Mount McKennie is returning (I think he will, or at least will consider it now). And I am not sold on the C they picked up atll. Thing I am most upset about is Hodge is now a Packer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 30, 2006 You have to be a jets homer. They are doing well with the draft, as if i had to even mention that. I disagree with your Buffalo assessment. The previous regime left this team in shambles. If you want to see a worse draft, look who the Bills drafted in 2005. This team has some glaring holes on defense and doesn't have the luxury of just picking the best player on the board. The first two guys they picked will probably start and youboty might be a starter if clements holds out for a long term deal, which he doesn't deserve. Ummm...they drafted a late 1st round projection in the early 1st....then traded up to take a 3rd round guy in the 1st. No matter how you want to spin it...it was a terrible draft for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted April 30, 2006 As a Titans season ticket holder and sort of fan...I thought it was a great pick at that spot...and the Young pick while not safe...sure has alot of possible upside. I thought you were a Packer fan? Would have taken Lendell at the natural spot than move up for Tarvarius Jackson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 30, 2006 I thought you were a Packer fan? Would have taken Lendell at the natural spot than move up for Tarvarius Jackson. I am a Packer fan 1st and foremost and that never waivers. Was born and grew up 30 minutes from Lambeau with 6 season tickets in my family. Moved to Tennessee when I was 15 and have been here ever since. Moved to Nashville right when the Titans were coming in and bought season tickets because I love to go to pro football games and the wife is now a full Titans fan (who pulls for the Packers as well because if not her inlaws will kill her ). So living here I pull for the Titans to do well and go to games (though the past 2 years we have sold our tickets for the season..and probably will this year too...had a baby and he will be 2 this September and its alot harder to go to games now and pay for food, beer, babysitter.....) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 30, 2006 i think the titans have the potential for this thing to go either way: it's either going to be wildly successful draft for them down the road, or a bust draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LSUtiger 9 Posted April 30, 2006 I think the Rams got GREAT value with their two third-rd picks. LSU DT Claude Wroten is a first round talent but was busted for marijuana possession in January, which dropped his stock tremendously. Also, getting Dominique Byrd at the end of the 3rd round? That's another great value pick for them. I think STL has a nice draft so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onejayhawk 3 Posted April 30, 2006 I think the Rams got GREAT value with their two third-rd picks. LSU DT Claude Wroten is a first round talent but was busted for marijuana possession in January, which dropped his stock tremendously. Also, getting Dominique Byrd at the end of the 3rd round? That's another great value pick for them. I think STL has a nice draft so far. I agree. The Rams did quite well today. Top 10. J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mulletia 0 Posted April 30, 2006 the bills draft was bad because they lost a pick instead of gaining two but in defense of the bills whitner fills a hole at ss that is pretty big unless you think coy wire, or matt bowen are viable options, and he would not have been there at 14 mccargo was a definite reach, but understand that they are switching to the tampa 2 and needed him, aside from his foot injury he comes with the least baggage both mentally and physically, rod wright and gabe watson are still on the board for a reason. and youboty was an excellent pick I find it hard to beleive they had the worst draft, they got two starters and a nickle back on day 1, thye could have used the extra picks but we''ll see. Personally, I think their fa signings were worse than their draft picks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darb33 0 Posted April 30, 2006 I think Minnesota is the obvious choice for worst draft period. I can live with Greenway in round 1, but after that every player was a reach and could have been taken later imo. And trading up to grab a quarterback with a day 2 grade on nearly everyone's draft board was ridiculous. It appeared to be a knee jerk reaction to the fact that a few quarterbacks came off the board and they got nervous. To have 5 picks on day 1 and come out how they did is inexcusable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted April 30, 2006 I think Minnesota is the obvious choice for worst draft period. I can live with Greenway in round 1, but after that every player was a reach and could have been taken later imo. And trading up to grab a quarterback with a day 2 grade on nearly everyone's draft board was ridiculous. It appeared to be a knee jerk reaction to the fact that a few quarterbacks came off the board and they got nervous. To have 5 picks on day 1 and come out how they did is inexcusable. How was Griffin a reach? Most mocks had him going no more than 5-10 picks after the Vikes, and he's a better fit for the cover 2 defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted April 30, 2006 How was Griffin a reach? Most mocks had him going no more than 5-10 picks after the Vikes, and he's a better fit for the cover 2 defense. I think the issue with Griffin is more of a knock by association with this second round Instantly after I saw they drafted a OC that wasn't Eslinger, I began to doubt Griffin more. Both appear to be tweaner players. I wanted starters of a position. Had the vikes not given up their 2 3rds for Jackson, I think we could have written it off. In the second I wanted Hodges to lock up the LB position for a few years. Would have been happy with 3 def picks in a row. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted April 30, 2006 I think the issue with Griffin is more of a knock by association with this second round Instantly after I saw they drafted a OC that wasn't Eslinger, I began to doubt Griffin more. Both appear to be tweaner players. I wanted starters of a position. Had the vikes not given up their 2 3rds for Jackson, I think we could have written it off. In the second I wanted Hodges to lock up the LB position for a few years. Would have been happy with 3 def picks in a row. Griffin is kind of a tweener, but cover 2 corners don't need the elite speed, and they do need to be strong enough to bump WRs coming off the line. A S/CB tweener is good in C2 defenses. I do wish they'd gone with Hodge over Cook, and stayed where the were in the third and picked up a QB (Jackson or Croyle) and Jean-Gilles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MahSoonerz 0 Posted April 30, 2006 I have no idea what the Jacksonville Jaguars are thinking. And did the Rams really need two TEs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted April 30, 2006 I really like what the titans did offensively. I will simply can the character issues on White, with Chow making that decision. I believe White could really blast off with any slight opening, and Miss Brown will give him plenty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pook187 0 Posted April 30, 2006 I think Jacksonville had a curious draft. Buffalo started off with a couple reaches, but ended up getting great value in Yabouty and Ko Simpson. There secondary is set for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_House 0 Posted April 30, 2006 I think Jacksonville had a curious draft. Buffalo started off with a couple reaches, but ended up getting great value in Yabouty and Ko Simpson. There secondary is set for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted April 30, 2006 The Lions haven't done too well. Another RB, when OL is their biggest problem on offense? An undersized, concussion proned LB in the 1st. Bullocks was their only decent pick on the 1st day. And this is what they put together with their once again top 10 draft status? Blech... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mulletia 0 Posted April 30, 2006 I think Jacksonville had a curious draft. Buffalo started off with a couple reaches, but ended up getting great value in Yabouty and Ko Simpson. There secondary is set for a long time. I think in two years whitner wont' be considered a reach at all, he was overshadowed by hawk, and carpenter two top 20 linebackers in a deep linebacker draft on the same team is pretty good, and schlegel is a hell of a tackle to tackle linebacker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 0 Posted April 30, 2006 I really like what the titans did offensively. I will simply can the character issues on White, with Chow making that decision. I believe White could really blast off with any slight opening, and Miss Brown will give him plenty. I still can't believe they took Young over Golden Boy. It seems like with Chow being the OC, it would of been a no-brainer. Matt would be running the same offense that he used to scorch the record books. Now they have Vince trying to learn an offense that couldn't be any more different or complicated then the offense he ran in Texas. Or you going to have Chow change his scheme dramatically to fit Young. Its just the wrong choice IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 30, 2006 The Lions haven't done too well. Another RB, when OL is their biggest problem on offense? An undersized, concussion proned LB in the 1st. Bullocks was their only decent pick on the 1st day. And this is what they put together with their once again top 10 draft status? Blech... laughs and swims away... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mulletia 0 Posted April 30, 2006 The Lions haven't done too well. Another RB, when OL is their biggest problem on offense? An undersized, concussion proned LB in the 1st. Bullocks was their only decent pick on the 1st day. And this is what they put together with their once again top 10 draft status? Blech... I think the lions are pots calling the bills kettle black when they about whitner as a reach. sims has had 5 concussions, but has great speed. I think they made mistake by not picking leinart, as they play in a dome as do the vikings but he's still going to be pretty good so long as he doens't take a head shot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted April 30, 2006 John Clayton is fishing for Packer Rubes to email him this week. I dont think their draft as bad as to be upon this list. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/colu...john&id=2427335 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShaneFalco 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Sims Bullocks Calhoun J. Scott, OT, Texas D. McCann, DB, WVU F. Matua G, USC not a poor draft. definitely not one of the worst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Sims Bullocks Calhoun J. Scott, OT, Texas D. McCann, DB, WVU F. Matua G, USC not a poor draft. definitely not one of the worst. frank coyle called bullocks a future pro-bowler, kiper had calhoun going in the second round, scott was supposed to go in the top-75 picks. sims has been compared to derrick brooks. i make no specific predictions on where that draft fits in with the whole scheme of things, but calling it one of the worst is just plain silly. that's about as far as i'll go addressing the haters because, really, their fishing trips aren't worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esoitl 0 Posted April 30, 2006 John Clayton is fishing for Packer Rubes to email him this week. I dont think their draft as bad as to be upon this list. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/colu...john&id=2427335 i see how he makes a point in that they did nothing for the offense this year but that team is still years away with or without Favre so whats the rush? i was a bit surprised that they didnt get one of the better WRs like Jackson if they really planned on shipping off Walker. now as it stands they have a disgruntled Driver, Boerigter who cant play a full season, and Ferguson who is only a #2 at best if Driver keeps himself off the field it could be horrible with these guys and Franks is more of a red-zone guy than anything thats the one qualm i have with their draft, not near as bad as Clayton's take and i think they finally did good for a change sims has been compared to derrick brooks. the guy has talent but how long is he going to stay in the league? i think him and Bailey could be great and with Lehman as well they have a solid group of LBs but there are so many health concerns to think about go back to Aikman when he started his string of concussions, not good news IMO id love to see the guy do good but almost too risky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 30, 2006 i see how he makes a point in that they did nothing for the offense this year but that team is still years away with or without Favre so whats the rush?i was a bit surprised that they didnt get one of the better WRs like Jackson if they really planned on shipping off Walker. now as it stands they have a disgruntled Driver, Boerigter who cant play a full season, and Ferguson who is only a #2 at best if Driver keeps himself off the field it could be horrible with these guys and Franks is more of a red-zone guy than anything thats the one qualm i have with their draft, not near as bad as Clayton's take and i think they finally did good for a change the guy has talent but how long is he going to stay in the league? i think him and Bailey could be great and with Lehman as well they have a solid group of LBs but there are so many health concerns to think about go back to Aikman when he started his string of concussions, not good news IMO id love to see the guy do good but almost too risky aikman's severe concussions and sims getting his bell rung are entirely two different things. i think the medical community concurs, given the medical evaluations of both Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esoitl 0 Posted April 30, 2006 aikman's severe concussions and sims getting his bell rung are entirely two different things. i think the medical community concurs, given the medical evaluations of both getting his bell rung? nice way to sugar coat it..... i think having 5 concussions is more than just getting your bell rung every concussion makes it easier for another look at Chrebet, i dont know the number he had but every hit he took to the head seemed to give him a concussion and he had some seriously bad lasting effects from them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marshall_Law 0 Posted April 30, 2006 I have no idea what the Jacksonville Jaguars are thinking. And did the Rams really need two TEs? Yes, the Rams had only 1 TE on the roster going into the draft, and they traded him in the 4th round. They got 2 quality TEs in Klopfenstein and Byrd. They got a 4th round pick from San Diego for Manumaleuna, which I think is a great deal for St. Louis. Linehan likes TEs, and I think he did a good job of overhauling the position. Wroten was a steal in the 3rd round, if he stays out of trouble, he will be super value for the Rams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted April 30, 2006 aikman's severe concussions and sims getting his bell rung are entirely two different things. i think the medical community concurs, given the medical evaluations of both http://www.webmd.com/search/search_results...=Mozilla-search i think the medical community concurs, link please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted April 30, 2006 the bears draft has been underwhelming for me so far. Here, fishy fishy, here.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Here, fishy fishy, here.... yeah, what'd they do to fix that horrid offense this weekend? zip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites