How long before Texans, Titans and every other GM who passed on Leinhart get fired

[I have no idea what i'm doing 0]

6 months...TOPS

 

Is it just me or is Mario Williams entire college highlight reel against the University of Maryland?

 

Houston should have taken Reggie Bush or traded the pick....plain and simple

 

Titans now have a QB who played in a 1 look system, taking 90% of his snaps from the Shotgun position and one that scored a 6, bumped up to a 16 (still means he's a moron) on the wonderlic test, He will never understand a NFL offense, or worse, a NFL Defense, he's an idiot, who Texas dumbed down the offense for, very dumb Chow, very Dumb, Should have taken Leinhart.

[Ilov80s 0]

6 months...TOPS

 

Is it just me or is Mario Williams entire college highlight reel against the University of Maryland?

 

Houston should have taken Reggie Bush or traded the pick....plain and simple

 

Titans now have a QB who played in a 1 look system, taking 90% of his snaps from the Shotgun position and one that scored a 6, bumped up to a 16 (still means he's a moron) on the wonderlic test, He will never understand a NFL offense, or worse, a NFL Defense, he's an idiot, who Texas dumbed down the offense for, very dumb Chow, very Dumb, Should have taken Leinhart.

 

I am sure Chow was pushing for Matt. They also drafted a donut in round 2. This is a huge boom or bust draft for the Titans.

[RamslovaMartzhata 3]

It has been reported that both Chow and Fisher were lobbying for Leinart.

 

"And Norm Chow and Jeff Fisher cannot feel pleased about losing their vote in the war room."

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5555304

 

This appears to be a great example of where football gets ruined. The men in suits have the ultimate say. You have both your head coach and O-coordinator wanting a guy, and you choose a different guy (at the same position)?

[cws3030 0]

It has been reported that both Chow and Fisher were lobbying for Leinart.

 

"And Norm Chow and Jeff Fisher cannot feel pleased about losing their vote in the war room."

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5555304

 

This appears to be a great example of where football gets ruined. The men in suits have the ultimate say. You have both your head coach and O-coordinator wanting a guy, and you choose a different guy (at the same position)?

floyd reese is horible he blew it last year with pacman over a.rolle and in time vy and l.white will not pan out.

[9-Route 0]

A: 22 games after warner's concussion (and leinart has compiled 30+ tds).

[LOD01 198]

Reese will be 1st out the door becuase it will be apparent very quickly that Vince Young is a BUST.

[tdubya 0]

I agree about Young. I never thought I'd say this, but he is basically like Vick, with a more accurate arm, but not as bright as Vick (if that is possible! )

[Fumbleweed 547]

It's simply too early to make projections about any of these guys........how a guy's game translates to the pros is a very difficult thing to measure.

[Savage Beast 1]

It's simply too early to make projections about any of these guys........how a guy's game translates to the pros is a very difficult thing to measure.

 

 

And Leinart would have been the #1 overall pick in the draft last year if he would have entered, so he blew his chance and it's all his fault.

[jpcdds 26]

Why don't all you Leinart lovers along with Pete Prisco and Pat Kirwin get in line to give Matt a BJer...If 1 or 2 teams passed on him maybe you could say they're stupid. The fact that 9 teams passed and none traded up to get him as he dropped...several with QB issues...might actually tell us something.

 

I'm not saying he will be good or bad...i'm just saying maybe the teams that passed on him got it right!!!

 

Oh yay...stop with the lovefest!!!

[titan20 0]

I think we will not have a good idea on how young is as an NFL QB until after the 2008 season. You cannot expect ben roethlisberger like success in the first two years.

[football_scooter 0]

I'm no football analyst like some of you, but I will make an observation based on what I've seen of them:

 

Vince Young can make all the throws. He throws the deep ball, he throws the touch passes, he throws the 'tweeners with zip on them, and great aim. He slings it sidearm which is a complaint by some, but so did Kenny Stabler and suffice to say Young has similar escapability and then some.

 

Comparatively, Leinart throws the short passes ok, but anything over 15 yards is floated. Even on his highlight tape his receivers are so wide open it's disgusting. I guess with Bush & White in the backfield and all the time his line bought him he never really had to do more than toss it up for his receivers, most of whom were just standing there...

 

The TD always looked pretty from Leinart, but I was never too enamoured with that wobbly duck he'd toss up there all the time..at University of Spoiled Children that might win you a Heisman....in the NFL that's an interception.

 

Vince Young is the better athlete and IMO will be the better pro QB.

 

One man's opinion.

[Savage Beast 1]

I'm no football analyst like some of you, but I will make an observation based on what I've seen of them:

 

Vince Young can make all the throws. He throws the deep ball, he throws the touch passes, he throws the 'tweeners with zip on them, and great aim. He slings it sidearm which is a complaint by some, but so did Kenny Stabler and suffice to say Young has similar escapability and then some.

 

Comparatively, Leinart throws the short passes ok, but anything over 15 yards is floated. Even on his highlight tape his receivers are so wide open it's disgusting. I guess with Bush & White in the backfield and all the time his line bought him he never really had to do more than toss it up for his receivers, most of whom were just standing there...

 

The TD always looked pretty from Leinart, but I was never too enamoured with that wobbly duck he'd toss up there all the time..at University of Spoiled Children that might win you a Heisman....in the NFL that's an interception.

 

Vince Young is the better athlete and IMO will be the better pro QB.

 

One man's opinion.

 

What scooter said. And Leinart was never rushed to throw in college because of the Trojan's awesome offensive line, and the threat of Bush and White. Leinart has never seen a pass rush in his college career, so who knows how he will handle a pass rush in the NFL? He also has a noodle arm.

[BennyAndTheJets 0]

I can't really knock the Jets for not taking him. I did want them to draft him, but at the same time, our O-line is basically non-existent. I'd rather build a solid core to build from then to draft a star QB and not be able to protect him anyway.

[swamp dog 0]

qbs are always hard to project...but count me as one who isn't impressed with the long-term nfl prospects of him. he doesn't have an arm. i've never gotten the sense he breathes football. i'm much more of a cutler fan.

 

that said, he's going into a great situation in arizona. he probably couldn't have asked for a better place. then again, denny loves the deep ball...and this kid doesn't do that well. i guess i'm surprised denny took him over cutler, but who am i to say.

[Sho Nuff 720]

floyd reese is horible he blew it last year with pacman over a.rolle and in time vy and l.white will not pan out.

 

The great Carnac ladies and gentlemen.

 

 

Yeah...you just know they won't right?

 

 

Floyd Reese is one of the better GMs in the league and has a history of pretty good success with things like the draft.

 

Pacman looks bad now...cannot say he blew it just yet as Rolle may not work out too well either.

 

 

I agree about Young. I never thought I'd say this, but he is basically like Vick, with a more accurate arm, but not as bright as Vick (if that is possible! )

 

McNair was not the brightest either...turned out pretty well.

[LunaTick 30]

I am one who was leaning more Young than Lienart and Cutler.

Partly cause his ability to win the big game.

If memory is correct, in both Rose Bowl wins, I believe it was won late against stiff competition.

 

Says a lot (and is one of the knocks on Peyton).

 

Now Leinart did win a few big games himself. I just feel like Young did it with a little less.

 

 

Cutler, imo, has more flop potential.

Benefits though in that he will get a good couple of years before coming out.

 

I will bet that Warner is either gone or the backup next year.

[IAMWood 6]

Trent Dilfer > Matt Whinert > Cryin Leaf

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 40]

I never liked Lienart or or VY. Reese has at least 3 yrs before VY gets switched to RB (if he is smart enough to handle it).

 

Green is smart enough to restructure the O for the noodle armed Lienart and make him look decent rather than lose his job as well.

 

Just my .02.

[DaveJ 0]

In order to evaluate these QB's you have to look at the systems that are built, or will be built around them as well as the time they will be given to get their collective acts together.

 

Vince - Pros.. elusive, proven winner, strong arm, has all the throws and can shed the rush while throwing, good work ethic. Cons... awkward throwing motion, simple system success, can't read multiple pass options and jumps out of the pocket too soon. If Tenn manages to control him a little while not smoothering his instincts and ability to make something out of nothing while getting him schooled in multiple reads he can be VERY good. His wonderlic scores aside, he is football smart and assuming he can pick up on the more advanced systems in the NFL or they keep it in check enough and bring him along at his own pace he should be okay.

 

Leinart - Pros.. immune to game time pressure (like Young), winning attitude, dedication to the game and his play, smart and successful in a pro style offense, accurate enough down the field when given time to set and very accurate short-mid range. Cons... Never played with a lower caliber supporting staff (Zona's line is the only weakness on that team right now), doesn't have a strong arm, can't make a strong throw under pressure and rely on his arm to get it there. All that said, he is with a team and a system that will not require him to go deep down field all the time. This is a timing offense. He also will benefit from having such a great supporting group of WR's and RB behind him along with playing behind a very good vet who will teach him to succeed with the tools he has.

 

Cutler - Pros... Stong arm, firm pocket presence, can make all the throws even on the move or under pressure. Smart football mind. Cons.. hasn't been with a winner so might be more content with losing at first, hasn't learned to rely on his teammates and has had to do alot of the work himself. Cutler is probably in a very similar position as Leinart. He will come into a situation where he will be given time to develop before he is thrown into the mix and has a system that will bring him a long much like Rothlesberger, they will only ask him to do what he is capable of doing and will expand as he matures.

 

Leinart and Cutler will have the most opportunity to succeed based on where they landed. Cutler could very well end up being the best of the bunch in the end, but Leinart could as well based on the skill position players around him. Youngs success will be directly related to his situation. If they throw him in too soon and he doesn't step up, he could end up bombing or ending up as one of those guys who flourishes on his next team.

[FlyEaglesFly 0]

Leinart was flat out over rated! He played on a pro team in college and has an average arm. The word out of several NFL offices was that he is more interested in being a movie star then a Super Bowl winner which is why he fell so far. I doubt all of those GMs that passed on him are wrong. Young and Cutler both have more physical talent and up side so I think he got picked right where he should have gone.

 

Reese will be 1st out the door becuase it will be apparent very quickly that Vince Young is a BUST.

 

How is Young a bust already? He will sit the bench most of the year behind Volek, which will give him plenty of time to learn the pro game. Considering Young out-played Matt "pretty boy" Leinart for the national championship despite having much less talent on the offensive side of the ball; I think calling him a bust already is a bit premature!

 

Leinart=Joey Harrington......

[RLLD 4,230]

They will all look like friggin geniouses when this cat goes "ryanleaf" on everybody in about a year