Sho Nuff 720 Posted June 14, 2006 Hard to compare over some of the eras. Its so hard to argue against some of the great teams. 60s Packers. Everyone knew the sweep was coming...yet they still ran at it you and you still could not stop it. 70s Steelers. In 76 both Harris and Bleier had 1000 yard seasons. And so on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted June 14, 2006 In recent memory, yeah, probably Dallas of the early 90s. Minnesota in the late 90s was also very good. Stussie/McDaniel/Christy/Dixon/Stringer. 4 of them Pro Bowlers, and Dixon was damn good for never making a PB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted June 14, 2006 I would agree with the cowboys as the best. They paved the way for a mediocre qb and rb to get to the HOF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted June 14, 2006 The Browns offensive line that blocked for Jim Brown, the Steelers of the 70's, and the Cowboys of the 90's. Free agency has had a tremendous impact on offensive line continuity, so to compare pre/post FA era's is kind of unfair. Jacksonville had a nice line with Boselli, the Chiefs with Roaf and Shields, and to an extent, the Steelers of the late 90's. The Colts of the 21st century should also receive credit, because Manning never really gets sacked, and James was productive running the ball (although part of success is due to the explosive players around the quick release of Manning). A year or two from now, it will be the Eagles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smashmouths@blf 33 Posted June 14, 2006 I would agree with the cowboys as the best. They paved the way for a mediocre qb and rb to get to the HOF. I have to disagree with you on Aikman and Emmitt being mediocre and I hate the Cowboys. I'll agree with the others that the Cowboys O-line was the best in recent memory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unckeyherb 2 Posted June 14, 2006 A year or two from now, it will be the Eagles. I certainly will agree with this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-jb- 0 Posted June 14, 2006 "How about a fuccking blow job, you slutty b!tch?" Pretty offensive line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted June 14, 2006 "How about a fuccking blow job, you slutty ######?" Pretty offensive line. Fixored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unckeyherb 2 Posted June 14, 2006 well. I'm certainly offended. fockers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G3-175SE 0 Posted June 14, 2006 Miami Dolphins 1972 (undefeated) and 1973. In case you doubt, just ask the 1973 Vikings D line, one of the best ever. They were handled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted June 15, 2006 Probably Cowboys of the '90s. (Emmitt = overrated.) Gotta give some props to the Raiders of the 70's, though. (Hall of Famers Art Shell, Gene Upshaw, and Jim Otto) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted June 15, 2006 Miami Dolphins 1972 (undefeated) and 1973. In case you doubt, just ask the 1973 Vikings D line, one of the best ever. They were handled. I don't know about that. The Dolphins RBs (Larry Czonka, Mercury Morris, and Jim Kiick) only rushed for 3.7 yards per carry against the Vikings. Miami won that game on defense with two takeaways and only 238 yards (14 first downs) allowed. The '72 Dolphins did rush for a lot of yards, but it's hard to say how much of it was the offensive line. They had awesome running backs, almost never threw the ball, and played possibly the easiest schedule of all time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted June 15, 2006 "How about a fuccking blow job, you slutty boy?" Pretty offensive line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G3-175SE 0 Posted June 15, 2006 I don't know about that. The Dolphins RBs (Larry Czonka, Mercury Morris, and Jim Kiick) only rushed for 3.7 yards per carry against the Vikings. Miami won that game on defense with two takeaways and only 238 yards (14 first downs) allowed. The '72 Dolphins did rush for a lot of yards, but it's hard to say how much of it was the offensive line. They had awesome running backs, almost never threw the ball, and played possibly the easiest schedule of all time. It was a lot the offensive line. You need to go back and check out the 73 SB. The Viking D Line was one of the best ever and they man handled them. Easy schedule. Hardly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted June 15, 2006 Easy schedule. Hardly. Oh please. The '72 Dolphins opponents: Baltimore, 5-9, ranked 11/26 in points allowed Baltimore, 5-9, ranked 11/26 in points allowed Buffalo, 4-9-1, ranked 24/26 in points allowed Buffalo, 4-9-1, ranked 24/26 in points allowed Houston, 1-13, ranked 25/26 in points allowed Kansas City, 8-6, ranked 13/26 in points allowed Minnesota, 7-7, ranked 12/26 in points allowed New England, 3-11, ranked 26/26 in points allowed New England, 3-11, ranked 26/26 in points allowed NY Giants, 8-6, ranked 7/26 in points allowed NY Jets, 7-7, ranked 19th in points allowed NY Jets, 7-7, ranked 19th in points allowed San Diego, 4-9-1, ranked 20/26 in points allowed St. Louis, 4-9-1, ranked 18/26 in points allowed Overall, their pathetic opponents posted a record of 70-122-4, for a probably record-low .364 winning percentage. It's very rare for a team's average opponent to be below .400. Yet, even if you take out the losses to the Dolphins, those teams went 70-108-4, for a .393 winning percentage. On average, their opponents ranked 18.2 out of 26 teams in points allowed per game. It was truly a sorry schedule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted June 15, 2006 Others not mentioned: 76 Pats - 2900 yds rushing and no 1000 yd rusher on the team Bears 84-86 - Lead league in rushing 3 straight years. Washington hogs Chiefs - 02-05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted June 15, 2006 Dallas When Emmitt gained most his yardage running untouched for 10 yards ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted June 15, 2006 Bears 84-86 - Lead league in rushing 3 straight years. I thought you always argued in RB debates that part of Payton's greatness is that he succeeded in spite of a crappy o-line. Does that just apply to the majority of his career, and not necessarily the best years of his career? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston 0 Posted June 15, 2006 *Packers with Gregg, Kramer and Ringo. One of the keys to Lombardi's team was a devastating ground game. These guys opened the holes for Taylor and Hornung. *Dolphins with Langer, Little and Kutchenberg. You don't go undefeated and win two Super Bowls without being awfully tough in the trenches. *Cowboys with Allen, Newton and Stepnoski. A beast of an O line that helped an all time great runner put up huge number. *Current day Chiefs. Since they don't have the rings it's easy to forget them. Yet, these guys have been dominant and helped a team with a bad D and mediocre receivers be a playoff contender on a yearly basis. *The Raiders when Shell and Upshaw were in their prime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted June 15, 2006 I thought you always argued in RB debates that part of Payton's greatness is that he succeeded in spite of a crappy o-line. Does that just apply to the majority of his career, and not necessarily the best years of his career? I dont recall that specific argument, but he did have a bad line between 75-82 or so. The 80s team had Hilgenberg and Covert as probowlers and van horne and bortz as good starters. Even the best Bear lines do not compare to dallas in the 90s, so maybe that is what you are referring to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildman 0 Posted June 15, 2006 I was waiting for someone to mention the Raiders with Shell and Upshaw during the 70's. They played with a QB that stood in the pocket as long as Bledsoe but took 7 step drops and kept him from getting battered and beaten. They also didn't have RBs that you would consider special, but the o-line was the reason that team was a SB champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston 0 Posted June 15, 2006 I was waiting for someone to mention the Raiders with Shell and Upshaw during the 70's. They played with a QB that stood in the pocket as long as Bledsoe but took 7 step drops and kept him from getting battered and beaten. They also didn't have RBs that you would consider special, but the o-line was the reason that team was a SB champion. Don't forget about Mark Van Eeghen. He used to live on my street. A great guy who was always super nice to the kids. Always up for a game of touch football. He had a trophy case with all types of game balls in it. Very impressive stuff when you're 11 years old. Actually it's impressive at any age. By the way another underrated O line was the Rams unit of the mid seventies. They were a solid group as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildman 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Yeah, he was good but put Greg Pruitt behind that line and he would have been Marshall Faulk... ...okay, I'm stretching it big time--but it sounded good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,024 Posted June 15, 2006 :yawn: no contest, chiefs of the last few years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted June 15, 2006 Id say the Broncos for how long they have been good.....under shanny they have been a top 5 O-line for 10 years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Id say the Broncos for how long they have been good.....under shanny they have been a top 5 O-line for 10 years... I'd put them in the "era category." It's amazing what they've been able to do the last decade or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onejayhawk 3 Posted June 15, 2006 Kansas City's line about 3 years ago. J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoMan 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Without a doubt the Houston Texans since day one of the franchise have had the greatest offensive line of all time. It is impossible for me to argue with Dallas. They made a really good back (probably not top 10 talentwise) into the all-time leading rusher in NFL history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Husker 85 Posted June 15, 2006 Dallas early 90s Chiefs the past ten years (too bad the rest of the team has sucked). Broncos the past ten years. Especially with Zimmerman. Back then, it seemed TD got at least five yards on every carry. Hawgs of the 80s. Talk about making mediocre backs look good. One that hasn't been mentioned yet is the Baltimore line when they won the Super Bowl. As long as they were allowed to play their mauling style, they were pretty tough. Dominated the feared Giants defense in the Super Bowl. Dilfer didn't even have to throw the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marion Barry 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Zimmerman--Schlereth--Nalen--Dan Neil--Tony Jones 1998 Denver Broncos-- Terell Davis 2000 yards. Greatest O-line of all time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcOne 2 Posted June 15, 2006 I would agree with the cowboys as the best. They paved the way for a mediocre qb and rb to get to the HOF. I actually posted this to see who would write something like that. I was talking with someone the other day, and I mentioned that other fans find it perfectly fine to give all the credit in the world to the offensive line--and will do agreeably, if that means discrediting the skill positions from that same team that are frequently argued about. I've only read 3 posts in so far, and see there are 32 total. I am guessing that not many--if any will disagree to the point of arguing their point for another O-Line. It will be interesting to see if any do. I did see someone post that it is hard to compare from different eras...and yes...I'd agree with that statement. Probably Cowboys of the '90s. (Emmitt = overrated.) Gotta give some props to the Raiders of the 70's, though. (Hall of Famers Art Shell, Gene Upshaw, and Jim Otto) How can the leading rusher of all time be overrated? I guess if you are looking for the BEST blocker--prolly not Emmit. If you are looking for the BEST runner (highlite tape maker)--prolly not Emmitt. The fastest? Prolly not Emmitt. The best overall PLAYER, yeah...then Emmitt. No one said he could put out highlite tapes like Barry. I kinda doubt that Dallas drafted him for that reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted June 15, 2006 Greatest offensive line of all time - Dallas of the 90's. How can the leading rusher of all time be overrated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted June 15, 2006 I would agree with the cowboys as the best. They paved the way for a mediocre qb and rb to get to the HOF. I actually posted this to see who would write something like that. That figures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onejayhawk 3 Posted June 15, 2006 I actually posted this to see who would write something like that. That figures. Troll sighting. Troll sighting. J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerrySilver 0 Posted June 16, 2006 eagles fan here, and i can unfortunately say that the dallas line of the early 90's was the best, hands down. flat out devastating. they would make holes in the opposing defense that you could fit a semi through, and they gave aikman all the time in the world to throw the ball (only got sacked 14 times in '94 and '95. 28 sacks in in 32 games is a qb's dream) i still believe that if barry sanders had that line while he was playing, he would probaly have cracked 2800-3000 yards in a season once or twice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Montana_god 0 Posted June 16, 2006 Reluctantly I would agree with the Cowboys of the 90's - you could shut down every thing else and they would run over the left and then the right. Over and over and ove... I have to through Bob McKittrick's name in here though, he put together some amazing lines with smaller and average players for da Niners - maybe not the best lines, but in the top 5ish... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texasmouth 1 Posted June 16, 2006 I would agree with the cowboys as the best. They paved the way for a mediocre qb and rb to get to the HOF. BOOOOOOOOOOO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
