TerrySilver 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Spoken like a true fan from the city of brotherly love............get over it. I think McNabb was acting the way he should when TO was on the team. He should have kept quiet with the media.....that's what leaders do. Once TO was gone, however, he shouldn't have gone 3rd grade and started taking little shots at the guy once he was gone. That's why people are mentioning that he's sinking to TO's level. He took TO's bait and now he looks stupid. If he would give the press nowhere to go on this situation they'd give up. Good god this is sickening!! i'm over it. but doesnt mean i cant still wish him the worst in life. i'm more disappointed in him losing an opportunity to be the most loved athlete in philly more then anything. honestly, after his superbowl performance, he was the most loved athlete i have ever seen in philly, the toughest of all sports towns. the guy could walk on water in most fans eyes, people were getting to erect statues for him. but yet, somehow he managed to fock it all up. its a shame. on to the point: btw, he did keep quiet about while they were on the same team. once he was gone (and mcnabb was not his leader no more), he RESPONDED to TO's accusations and comments. i dont get what the big deal is but honestly, it doesnt matter what Mcnabb did, either way someone would have found some fault in how he handled the situation. if mcnabb spoke out, he was stooping to TO's level, if mcnabb kept quiet, he was being a poosay. talk about being in a tough spot in a total lose-lose situation. personally, i felt that mcnabb handled it very well, when you keep in mind that TO is full of mental problems and acts like a 3 yr old Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unckeyherb 2 Posted July 24, 2006 Spoken like a true fan from the city of brotherly love............get over it. I think McNabb was acting the way he should when TO was on the team. He should have kept quiet with the media.....that's what leaders do. Once TO was gone, however, he shouldn't have gone 3rd grade and started taking little shots at the guy once he was gone. That's why people are mentioning that he's sinking to TO's level. He took TO's bait and now he looks stupid. If he would give the press nowhere to go on this situation they'd give up. Good god this is sickening!! He's responding. That's the whole f'n point.....he's responding. He should have a long time ago taken a stand with the media. "I'll answer questions about the team. Anything about Owens and I'm out of here". Walk out of a few press conferences or stop a few interviews and the media will get it. If McNabb's not there to give them "something" to write, they have nothing at all. Donovan runs the show with the Philly media....he should take charge of it.....grow a pair. I'm sorry but "responding" is sinking to T.O.'s level and that's all I've seen is McNabb sinking to T.O.'s level. I just call em like I see em. just so I'm clear, you're criticizing him for not taking the higher road and simply not talking to the media about TO. But in this thread there are a bunch of people burning him for doing just that during the season, saying hes a pussie cause he didn't take a stand and be team leader and just let the issue fester, etc. The fact is a lot of peeps don't like the Eagles, a lt of peeps don't like Donovan. No matter what he does this issue wll continue on because no one is going to agree one way or the other. I personally think that any argument you can apply to McNabb for being either a non-talking pussie or a continuing-to-talk-about-it child, can be applied ten-fold to TO. Put it this way. No one ever questioned McNabb's abitlity, heart, team leadership, focus under pressure, maturity, etc in the years before TO came to Philly. in the last five years, with exception to last years final handfull of games, McNabb has done vey well as a team leader and QB. He went through a ton of bullshite here in Philly after he was drafted over Ricky WIlliams. He was professional, not childish, and led the team to four consecutive NFC championship games and a super bowl. Besides Brady who else in the league has had that kind of run the last half decade. Which does that kind of run come from, a childish non-team leader or a pussie non-team leader? I forget. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 24, 2006 Put it this way. No one ever questioned McNabb's abitlity, heart, team leadership, focus under pressure, maturity, etc in the years before TO came to Philly. in the last five years, with exception to last years final handfull of games, McNabb has done vey well as a team leader and QB. He went through a ton of bullshite here in Philly after he was drafted over Ricky WIlliams. He was professional and led the team to four consecutive NFC championship games and a super bowl. Besides Brady who else in the league has had that kind of run the last half decade. People have been questioning his ability to step up in big games since he played for Syracuse. But he has done better than I expected. One thing that really soured me on McNabb as a human being over the years is he is still crying, I mean honest to goodness whining, about the booing he got on draft day. He still doesn't get it. The people at the draft were not booing him personally, but the pick. They wanted Ricky Williams, or at the very least Edgerrin James. A stud RB. Instead, the Eagles went with a QB, and the fans were angry. And McNabb has continually brought up to the media, over and over, how he was booed by the people of Philadelphia. He just won't let it go. Just like the T.O. situation. He just won't let it go. Which is fine by me. I like the fighting in the media. Makes for interesting reading material. And since McNabb is now yapping about Owens, how about if he addresses Owens claims that McNabb choked in the final moments of the SuperBowl. What exactly happened? Oh, yeah. No one has ever publically addressed that situation except for Owens, and a couple of offensive linemen who were privately disciplined for opening up their mouths. I keep saying that there are more people than just Owens to blame for whole fiasco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerrySilver 0 Posted July 24, 2006 And since McNabb is now yapping about Owens, how about if he addresses Owens claims that McNabb choked in the final moments of the SuperBowl. What exactly happened? what exactly happened was that the eagles simply lost to a better team in the superbowl. its not mcnabb's fault; the pats were just too dominant that year, unfortunately it also didnt help that during one of those very last drives of the game, someone totally missed a blocking assignment, which lead to bruschi hitting mcnabb right in the chest, helmet first. now that had to hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Force of Two 0 Posted July 24, 2006 what exactly happened was that the eagles simply lost to a better team in the superbowl. its not mcnabb's fault; the pats were just too dominant that year, unfortunatelyit also didnt help that during one of those very last drives of the game, someone totally missed a blocking assignment, which lead to bruschi hitting mcnabb right in the chest, helmet first. now that had to hurt. Partially agree...Fraley and Hicks played like crap and the interior got blown up into 5's face...The Defense couldnt stop the run or the spead offense in the 2nd half when they had too.... but the Int to Brushchi after the Owens 31 yard catch when the Eagles were closing in on FG range was atrocious. Did he choke?...I dont think so.....but that play in itself cost the Eagles the Super Bowl when even after the horrendous shooting in the foot mistakes they made (LJ Fumble, 1 other pick,) they could have still won Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerrySilver 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Partially agree...Fraley and Hicks played like crap and the interior got blown up into 5's face...The Defense couldnt stop the run or the spead offense in the 2nd half when they had too.... but the Int to Brushchi after the Owens 31 yard catch when the Eagles were closing in on FG range was atrocious. Did he choke?...I dont think so.....but that play in itself cost the Eagles the Super Bowl when even after the horrendous shooting in the foot mistakes they made (LJ Fumble, 1 other pick,) they could have still won not to make excuses because the int was terrible, but i think it was one or 2 plays before that int where mcnabb got cracked in the ribs by bruschi. i know it happened on that drive where he threw that bad pick. either way, everyone seems to forget that mcnabb was the only QB that entire year to throw more then 2 td's against that pats defense, and his 357 yards was the 2nd most the pats defense allowed the entire year (trent green had 381 yds in one game during the regular season). outside of 1 or 2 bad decisions he made, mcnabb came to play. unfortunately someone had to lose, and that was the eagles. regardless, i've seen alot more qb's play alot worse in past superbowls, and yet they got nowhere near as much sh* as mcnabb has gotten for their own crappy SB performances. it really isnt fair for mcnabb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 24, 2006 All I'm saying is why Andy Reid and McNabb have never talked about what happened at the end of the game. The vomitting, the slow hurry up offense, the play calling, I mean, what happened? Why is it so taboo? WHAT HAPPENED? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerrySilver 0 Posted July 24, 2006 All I'm saying is why Andy Reid and McNabb have never talked about what happened at the end of the game. The vomitting, the slow hurry up offense, the play calling, I mean, what happened? Why is it so taboo? WHAT HAPPENED? they dropped the ball on the game plan, BUT the eagles still did score that TD to bring it to with 3. besides, how many teams could come back to beat the pats when they're down 10 points with 4 minutes left? this team was probaly one of the best teams in a decade, but yet people act like it was such an easy task for mcnabb to do. sometimes i wonder what if mcnabb and the eagles just went 4th and out on that drive where they scored that TD. the funny thing is that if that happened, all this talk about mcnabb being a choker would probaly never have come up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted July 24, 2006 Gimme a break. Donovan is the one who won't let it go. McNabb is a child which is why he responds with these juvenile comments to the press. Why do you think the Philly press won't let this go? Get a clue here.....it's pretty obvious. McNabb, ever the clown, will ultimately say something stupid and childish. The guy said very little about the T.O. situation as it was happening but since it's been over, we've been blessed with his rapier wit as he seems to never give up the chance to make the guys in the pressroom laugh. I've got to agree with Phillybear.....T.O. is a complete idiot and nobody denies that except him. But McNabb has proven himself to be a real tool and I don't think he's that great of a team leader either. He's a fantastic QB with all the physical and mental skills to command the position, but leadership is a huge part of the QB position and I think McNabb falls a little short in this category. Bull. Months went by without McNabb even saying a word about TO. The TO thing came up during the Super Bowl, then came up when TO came out with the book. When the book was released, neither the Eagles nor McNabb had anything to say regarding the book. When asked if he read the book (at a normal press junket), McNabb let fly. He didn't seek out the media, nor did he open up the press conference with remarks about TO. TO's selling the book here, not McNabb. TO is the one responsible for getting the pub in order to sell the book, not McNabb. You make it sound like McNabb is going out of his way to start this crap. Not the case. And BTW, the Philly media have nothing better to do with their time right now. Phils suck, Sixers suck, and the Flyers suck. The Eagles are the only game in town right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Force of Two 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Bull. Months went by without McNabb even saying a word about TO. The TO thing came up during the Super Bowl, then came up when TO came out with the book. When the book was released, neither the Eagles nor McNabb had anything to say regarding the book. When asked if he read the book (at a normal press junket), McNabb let fly. He didn't seek out the media, nor did he open up the press conference with remarks about TO. TO's selling the book here, not McNabb. TO is the one responsible for getting the pub in order to sell the book, not McNabb. You make it sound like McNabb is going out of his way to start this crap. Not the case. And BTW, the Philly media have nothing better to do with their time right now. Phils suck, Sixers suck, and the Flyers suck. The Eagles are the only game in town right now. as always you understand everything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted July 24, 2006 All I'm saying is why Andy Reid and McNabb have never talked about what happened at the end of the game. The vomitting, the slow hurry up offense, the play calling, I mean, what happened? Why is it so taboo? WHAT HAPPENED? I guess someone doesn't pay too much attention. The slow hurry up offense was due to the playcalling from the sidelines and the signals. The verbage for the plays is too long, and Reid acknowledged as much. They also didn't have the right personnel in as well. Reid took the blame for the slow hurry up offense and playcalling already. McNabb was winded, and according to some in the huddle, it was due to a big shot he took earlier in the quarter. Nobody at this point really cares what happened at the end because they lost. Whatever happened, they still lost. Move on. Partially agree...Fraley and Hicks played like crap and the interior got blown up into 5's face...The Defense couldnt stop the run or the spead offense in the 2nd half when they had too.... but the Int to Brushchi after the Owens 31 yard catch when the Eagles were closing in on FG range was atrocious. Did he choke?...I dont think so.....but that play in itself cost the Eagles the Super Bowl when even after the horrendous shooting in the foot mistakes they made (LJ Fumble, 1 other pick,) they could have still won McNabb did not choke in the game but he was very inconsistent. I think at times he gets a little out of himself, with himself being the guy who makes all the right reads, makes all the right throws, and takes care of the ball. Besides TO, no one else on the offense that day really played well. McNabb and TO alone kept them in that game (besides a tremendous 1st half effort by Trotter and the defense). People keep forgetting the fact that McNabb played brilliantly in the NFC Championship win over Carolina only a few weeks before the Super Bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 24, 2006 Bull. Months went by without McNabb even saying a word about TO. The TO thing came up during the Super Bowl, then came up when TO came out with the book. When the book was released, neither the Eagles nor McNabb had anything to say regarding the book. When asked if he read the book (at a normal press junket), McNabb let fly. He didn't seek out the media, nor did he open up the press conference with remarks about TO. TO's selling the book here, not McNabb. TO is the one responsible for getting the pub in order to sell the book, not McNabb. You make it sound like McNabb is going out of his way to start this crap. Not the case. And BTW, the Philly media have nothing better to do with their time right now. Phils suck, Sixers suck, and the Flyers suck. The Eagles are the only game in town right now. The point is McNabb allows the T.O. thing to come back up. I didn't say he was seeking the media or opening a press conference with remarks about TO. But, he did let fly when given the chance when I think it would have been much wiser and grown up to let it go. McNabb won't let stuff like that go. No kidding the Philly media has nothing else to report. McNabb should stick to his guns though and give them nothing more to report on this story. Haven't you ever seen Bull Durham? Give the media a bunch of crappy cliches and give them nothing to write.....Tiger Woods has been doing this successfully for his whole career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Force of Two 0 Posted July 24, 2006 I guess someone doesn't pay too much attention. The slow hurry up offense was due to the playcalling from the sidelines and the signals. The verbage for the plays is too long, and Reid acknowledged as much. They also didn't have the right personnel in as well. Reid took the blame for the slow hurry up offense and playcalling already. McNabb was winded, and according to some in the huddle, it was due to a big shot he took earlier in the quarter. Nobody at this point really cares what happened at the end because they lost. Whatever happened, they still lost. Move on. McNabb did not choke in the game but he was very inconsistent. I think at times he gets a little out of himself, with himself being the guy who makes all the right reads, makes all the right throws, and takes care of the ball. Besides TO, no one else on the offense that day really played well. McNabb and TO alone kept them in that game (besides a tremendous 1st half effort by Trotter and the defense). People keep forgetting the fact that McNabb played brilliantly in the NFC Championship win over Carolina only a few weeks before the Super Bowl. Atlanta.....If he had played well v Carolina we would have gotten blown out by the Pats in 03/04 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red White and Blue 81 Posted July 24, 2006 McNabb is a mediocre QB 134 TDs vs. 66 INTs 2,500+ rushing yards and 21 rushing TDs Only QB to ever throw 30+ TDs and >10 INTs in one season Broke Joe Montana's record for consecutive completions Four-time Pro Bowler You're right, he sucks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted July 24, 2006 The point is McNabb allows the T.O. thing to come back up. I didn't say he was seeking the media or opening a press conference with remarks about TO. But, he did let fly when given the chance when I think it would have been much wiser and grown up to let it go. McNabb won't let stuff like that go. No kidding the Philly media has nothing else to report. McNabb should stick to his guns though and give them nothing more to report on this story. Haven't you ever seen Bull Durham? Give the media a bunch of crappy cliches and give them nothing to write.....Tiger Woods has been doing this successfully for his whole career. Tiger Woods has no teammates. Tiger Woods does not have to deal with team politics, nor does he represent any sports franchise nor city. The whole problem from the beginning was McNabb not addressing the situation. IMO, he should have confronted TO when the problems arose. For that, I fault him. However, when asked a question, one should respond with an answer. In this town, McNabb, Reid and the Eagles organization has been guilty of not answering the questions when they were asked, and that has been a point of contention here with the fans. McNabb answered the questions regarding TO, and now he's moved on. The only one not moving on with the situation is TO, who is trying to sell a book about the whole situation. Contrary to what TO says, his book is #16 on the New York Times Best Seller list and is already being offered at a discount on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b/103-14...x=6&Go.y=10 Atlanta.....If he had played well v Carolina we would have gotten blown out by the Pats in 03/04 My bad. In the Carolina game the year before, he had no help whatsoever. I was shocked that they actually got that far. McNabb will be fine this year. The Eagles will be fine this year. I feel very optimistic that they return to the playoffs this season. The lineplay and the significant upgrades they made on both sides of the ball are really gonna be the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Force of Two 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Tiger Woods has no teammates. Tiger Woods does not have to deal with team politics, nor does he represent any sports franchise nor city. The whole problem from the beginning was McNabb not addressing the situation. IMO, he should have confronted TO when the problems arose. For that, I fault him. However, when asked a question, one should respond with an answer. In this town, McNabb, Reid and the Eagles organization has been guilty of not answering the questions when they were asked, and that has been a point of contention here with the fans. McNabb answered the questions regarding TO, and now he's moved on. The only one not moving on with the situation is TO, who is trying to sell a book about the whole situation. Contrary to what TO says, his book is #16 on the New York Times Best Seller list and is already being offered at a discount on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b/103-14...x=6&Go.y=10 My bad. In the Carolina game the year before, he had no help whatsoever. I was shocked that they actually got that far. McNabb will be fine this year. The Eagles will be fine this year. I feel very optimistic that they return to the playoffs this season. The lineplay and the significant upgrades they made on both sides of the ball are really gonna be the difference. I completely agree...and I love that the Eagles are bit under the radar. If they start fast against some of the patsys on the schedule then I think they can restore some of their swagger and win 10-11 games again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unckeyherb 2 Posted July 24, 2006 I completely agree...and I love that the Eagles are bit under the radar. If they start fast against some of the patsys on the schedule then I think they can restore some of their swagger and win 10-11 games again. If they can get the defense back to the what it usually is, then I think 10 wins is possible. I also think 10 wins takes the division. Can't wait for Eagles football! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted July 24, 2006 I completely agree...and I love that the Eagles are bit under the radar. If they start fast against some of the patsys on the schedule then I think they can restore some of their swagger and win 10-11 games again. That second game against the Giants will be huge. The only thing that concerns me in that game will be the health at LT, and who will be starting at center. They'll struggle if Thomas is not completely healthy and if Fraley is the starter at center. Their pass rush this season will be lethal. With that said, Bunkley's gotta get his rear end in camp ASAP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Force of Two 0 Posted July 24, 2006 That second game against the Giants will be huge. The only thing that concerns me in that game will be the health at LT, and who will be starting at center. They'll struggle if Thomas is not completely healthy and if Fraley is the starter at center. Their pass rush this season will be lethal. With that said, Bunkley's gotta get his rear end in camp ASAP. That Giants game could be two-fold important....If the G-Men lose to Indy on opening day we could really try to bury at 0-2 and then a West Coast trip to Seattle.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted July 24, 2006 The point is McNabb allows the T.O. thing to come back up. I didn't say he was seeking the media or opening a press conference with remarks about TO. But, he did let fly when given the chance when I think it would have been much wiser and grown up to let it go. McNabb won't let stuff like that go. This is bull shit. McNabb does not allow the T.O. thing to come back up, T.O. just keeps bringing it back up, even though no one wants him to. Then McNabb gets asked about it over and over. There's no reason he shouldn't have his say, because the book is going to keep getting talked about regardless, and he's going to keep getting asked about it regardless. My thoughts on the whole latest episode: I wonder how Drew Rosenhaus' other clients feel, knowing that the other half of his company (Jason Rosenhaus) was spending his time writing this book for T.O.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 24, 2006 This is bull shit. McNabb does not allow the T.O. thing to come back up, T.O. just keeps bringing it back up, even though no one wants him to. Then McNabb gets asked about it over and over. There's no reason he shouldn't have his say, because the book is going to keep getting talked about regardless, and he's going to keep getting asked about it regardless. Holy splitting hairs Batman! Fine. T.O. keeps it bringing up and McNabb keeps getting asked about it. Okay, if it makes you feel better we can put it that way. That, however, was not my point. My point was that McNabb should show he's the much bigger man here and give the press nothing, and in the meantime adding no more fuel to the fire as well as not giving T.O. the satisfaction. I'm done with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted July 24, 2006 My point was that McNabb should show he's the much bigger man here and give the press nothing, and in the meantime adding no more fuel to the fire as well as not giving T.O. the satisfaction. And you're wrong, A. because there isn't a starting QB in the league that can get away with giving the press nothing. and B. because he's not adding fuel to the fire. Like I said the fire was already raging strong, and furthermore he didn't say anything that T.O. can really respond to. He's also not giving T.O. any satisfaction, quite the contrary, based on McNabb's comments I'd say he's actually making T.O.'s quest for sympathy very difficult. You call it splitting hairs... I call it me showing you that you couldn't phrase your case correctly because you don't have a case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 24, 2006 In years past, this thread would have gone over 5 pages by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotdogcollarsdotcom 0 Posted July 25, 2006 i feel like i just read the same post over and over and over and.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince44 205 Posted July 25, 2006 Not defending TO, but McNabb is one of the biggest choke artist there is. I agree with that. 02 NFC title game 03 NFC title game 04 Superbowl I'd also toss in the midseason loss to Boys at home in 05, which was a must win for the Eagles, and they were up 20-7 late in the 4th. McNabb made a horrible decision and threw a INT, which turned the whole game around, as he choked away a game they had wrapped up. I don't care if he was hurt, his mind wasnt and you never make throw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 25, 2006 And you're wrong, A. because there isn't a starting QB in the league that can get away with giving the press nothing. and B. because he's not adding fuel to the fire. Like I said the fire was already raging strong, and furthermore he didn't say anything that T.O. can really respond to. He's also not giving T.O. any satisfaction, quite the contrary, based on McNabb's comments I'd say he's actually making T.O.'s quest for sympathy very difficult. You call it splitting hairs... I call it me showing you that you couldn't phrase your case correctly because you don't have a case. I'm going to have to say you're wrong TJ. - A smart QB, or any other player, can manipulate the press. - He's totally adding fuel to the fire. If this was just T.O. talking it would die faster than when McNabb offers his replies. There's much more of a story when McNabb offers his 2 cents. - He's keeping the going, much like you and I are, so he's giving T.O. the satisfaction by default. My case is rock solid. You are unable to think clearly because of your blind homerism. I'm beginning to see why Philly fans get such a bad rap. Have a nice day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted July 25, 2006 I agree with that. 02 NFC title game 03 NFC title game 04 Superbowl I'd also toss in the midseason loss to Boys at home in 05, which was a must win for the Eagles, and they were up 20-7 late in the 4th. McNabb made a horrible decision and threw a INT, which turned the whole game around, as he choked away a game they had wrapped up. I don't care if he was hurt, his mind wasnt and you never make throw. How bout 2001, in his first full year as the starter, taking the team to the NFC Championship game against the Rams (and almost pulling out an improbable win), or how about the 2004 NFC Championship game against Atlanta when they won without TO? Pretty convenient to forget that. McNabb's INT in the game last year against the Cowboys was the fault of rookie Reggie Brown, who was supposed to cut off his route (rather than run straight down the field). Thanks for playing. I'm going to have to say you're wrong TJ. - A smart QB, or any other player, can manipulate the press. - He's totally adding fuel to the fire. If this was just T.O. talking it would die faster than when McNabb offers his replies. There's much more of a story when McNabb offers his 2 cents. - He's keeping the going, much like you and I are, so he's giving T.O. the satisfaction by default. My case is rock solid. You are unable to think clearly because of your blind homerism. I'm beginning to see why Philly fans get such a bad rap. Have a nice day. I am from the school that thinks McNabb should have spoken up and cleared the air from the very beginning. For that, I put a small portion of the blame for the fiasco on McNabb's shoulders. However, I do feel you are wrong by saying that it's been McNabb who has continually fueled this fire. Throughtout his career, he has never done this. He's not the one who needs a public forum to sell a book right now. From the draft day booing, to the Chunky Soup commercials, to the enormous contract he signed, and to the Rush Limbaugh thing, he's never actively seeked out the media so he could read his own press and use it for his own purposes. TO has. We all know he has no shame whatsoever. TO's a total creep but a great player. McNabb is not a creep, not without his own faults, and a great player as well. Let's move on. In years past, this thread would have gone over 5 pages by now. True dat. Alot of people jumped off the bandwagon, which really doesn't bother me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Can't wait for Eagles football! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 27, 2006 Found this at "another" site.... Owens responded to McNabbs commentMcNabb called his book a children's book. Here's TO's response. "That must be why he enjoyed it," said Owens on McNabb's comments that his recent autobiography, "T.O.", was a "children's book." Owens then added "I was thinking of him when Jason and I were drafting it. We wanted those who scored 14 on their Wonderlic to be able to enjoy it too." I'm sorry but that's really hilarious. I actually hope McNabb comes back with something so this keeps going. It's getting pretty entertaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted July 27, 2006 - He's totally adding fuel to the fire. - He's keeping the going, I like it when someone says the exact same thing, but tries to make them two different arguments Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 27, 2006 I like it when someone says the exact same thing, but tries to make them two different arguments Lighten up Francis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Lighten up Francis. McNabb has moved on, you can too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 27, 2006 McNabb has moved on, you can too. Has he? That remains to be seen because you can be damn sure that philly press will be asking about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted July 27, 2006 you can be damn sure that philly press will be asking about it. Oh, that's a given. That ass-wipe John Clark did last night. And he knew he was in the wrong b/c he even said, "Now you know we have to show this".....and McNabb rolled his eyes, shrugged and kind of sighed. I'm glad the camera caught that, kinda made Clark seem like a total douche. But McNabb is done, and concentrating on this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 27, 2006 But McNabb is done, and concentrating on this season. Until he or the team screws something up again. Then he can continue to blame everything on Terrell Owens. DMIAFP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Until he or the team screws something up again. Then he can continue to blame everything on Terrell Owens. DMIAFP. meh, that's what the media and uninformed would want to do, but not the Eagles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted July 27, 2006 I'm going to have to say you're wrong TJ. - A smart QB, or any other player, can manipulate the press. - He's totally adding fuel to the fire. If this was just T.O. talking it would die faster than when McNabb offers his replies. There's much more of a story when McNabb offers his 2 cents. - He's keeping the going, much like you and I are, so he's giving T.O. the satisfaction by default. My case is rock solid. You are unable to think clearly because of your blind homerism. I'm beginning to see why Philly fans get such a bad rap. Have a nice day. It's already dead! McNabb's comments didn't add anything to the controversy over TO's book. Did TO even respond at all? Your case is bunk! And I'm not a Philly fan, you lose again! Did you see McNabb on Total Access this week? They asked him if there was anything good to read out where he was. McNabb joked well there's Vibe, I recommend Ebony, etc... Rich Eisen laughed and said that was my clever attempt to get you to talk about TO's book. McNabb: "Well it just didn't work, did it?" Eisen laughs again, "Well we're going to press on anyway. Have you read the book? What do think..." McNabb pretty much no commented the whole thing. The guy ignores the issue 99% of the time and focuses on the team. When he does have his say that 1% of the time, it's not reasonable for people like you to act like McNabb's answers are equivalent to Owens' attention whoring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 27, 2006 meh, that's what the media and uninformed would want to do, but not the Eagles. I must still be off with my fishing techniques. Dam offseason made me rusty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabriel Balcavienga 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Not defending TO, but McNabb is one of the biggest choke artist there is. What has he won? Philly has had a load of talent and played in one of hte weakest divisions in football from 99 to 04; but now that the tables are turned and Washington/Dallas and even the Giants have caught up to them talent wise, McNabb's "window of opportunity" is now almost closed. He's never won anything and his one NFC Title Game is a result of the NFC being down. I believe TO when he said an Offensive coach said he gets tight in big games - HE DOES! And also about the superbowl when McNabb was hyperventilating in the huddle. A lot of things can be said about how childish TO is, but I get the feeling the guy calls it like he sees it and that's why he's considered a jerk. Oh well, nice run for you Eagles fans, maybe in a about 10 years you'll have another contenda. here we go again. eagles fans just can't win and eagles haters twist and turn the facts to support their own arguments. why don't you list that "load of talent" you speak of on offense that was there to support mcnabb? during those years EVERYONE said the eagles had NO wide receivers and NO running backs and if all they'd do is go out and get a top notch wr or top rb they'd win the super bowl. but of course, now that those days are in the past we have short memories...who was this "load of talent" on offense? Torrance Small? Charles Johnson? Freddie Mitchell? Duce Staley? Dorsey Levens? Give me a focking break "load of talent." it's amazing what a short memory you have. those 99-04 teams were as good as they were BECAUSE OF MCNABB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabriel Balcavienga 0 Posted July 28, 2006 i forgot to mention that hall of famer Na Brown too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites