surferskin 30 Posted October 2, 2006 Discuss... damn, if he wouldnt have had a bum shoulder...i wouldn't have be able to pick him at #11. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Polecat 0 Posted October 2, 2006 Pure RB, maybe. Weapon at the RB position...Westbrook. Defensive coordinators have to game around him in so many ways it's ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,326 Posted October 2, 2006 Westbrook can beat you in almost every aspect of the game, Tiki can still get it done, and Julius is bouncing back nicely so far this year. The NFC east has the best RB's top to bottom I would say right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 2, 2006 westbrook is good but he's no clinton portis... westbrook is only good for about 12 games a year. he's very strong the first 8 games and then fades the second half of the season. also, portis ran all over the JAGS...not exactly westbrook killing the niners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted October 2, 2006 Portis is decent.. I'm a bigger fan of Dolla Bill though.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
typhus 13 Posted October 2, 2006 Discuss... damn, if he wouldnt have had a bum shoulder...i wouldn't have be able to pick him at #11. and you had the b#### to call me out for an error in my spelling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 2, 2006 and you had the b#### to call me out for an error in my spelling? who's better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieG 4 Posted October 2, 2006 Westy's a tremendous.. but his injury history always scares me away from him. Portis looked REALLY good.. but don't throw a jinx on his shoulder Surfer. If Brunell & Moss can keep D's honest & that line stays healthy, Clinton can keep doing well. I "fuc*ed up" and didn't go Big 3 or grab guys like Ronnie & SJax and "wound up" with Portis. So far, so good.. fingers crossed and all that.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted October 2, 2006 he's a stud for sure, and certainly makes the skins better when he's on the field. happy as chit to have gotten him at #12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 2, 2006 he's a stud for sure, and certainly makes the skins better when he's on the field. happy as chit to have gotten him at #12. see. even a cowboy fan can admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
typhus 13 Posted October 2, 2006 Westy's a tremendous.. but his injury history always scares me away from him. Portis looked REALLY good.. but don't throw a jinx on his shoulder Surfer. If Brunell & Moss can keep D's honest & that line stays healthy, Clinton can keep doing well. I "fuc*ed up" and didn't go Big 3 or grab guys like Ronnie & SJax and "wound up" with Portis. So far, so good.. fingers crossed and all that.. Depending on if its a redraft or keeper league makes a difference on how I evaluate players in a draft. In a redraft, I tend to disregard "injury history", age,, a little bit, and will still draft guys like F.Taylor, Westbrook, A Green, D. Foster,, but not before were I have them ranked. In a keeper league, I will reach for youth/potential everytime. Ive seen in several leagues, owners push the panic button way too early on Portis, and traded him away before the season even began, and now they are kicking themselves for doing so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 2, 2006 Depending on if its a redraft or keeper league makes a difference on how I evaluate players in a draft.In a redraft, I tend to disregard "injury history", age,, a little bit, and will still draft guys like F.Taylor, Westbrook, A Green, D. Foster,, but not before were I have them ranked. In a keeper league, I will reach for youth/potential everytime. Ive seen in several leagues, owners push the panic button way too early on Portis, and traded him away before the season even began, and now they are kicking themselves for doing so. i thought you were going to tell me who's better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
typhus 13 Posted October 2, 2006 i thought you were going to tell me who's better? I would say at "this" time its a wash if were comparing Portis and Westbrook, with Westbrook getting more of the nod in PPR, just because of the systems relative to each. If you want a projection, by the end of the season.... if both remain healthy... I would say Westbrook finishes atleast a few spots ahead of Portis on most rankings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 2, 2006 I would say at "this" time its a wash if were comparing Portis and Westbrook, with Westbrook getting more of the nod in PPR, just because of the systems relative to each. If you want a projection, by the end of the season.... if both remain healthy... I would say Westbrook finishes atleast a few spots ahead of Portis on most rankings. first of all, i was talking real football. secondly, way to use that caveat, "if they both stay healthy". westbrook won't stay healthy and even if he does, their schedule has been cake so far....it only gets tougher. portis>westbrook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted October 2, 2006 At this point in the season I think Portis is the best RB in the NFC, while I consider Westbrook the best fantasy RB in the NFC, particularly in PPR leagues (of which my $$$ league is one). That said, I think that Shaun still has more upside going forward than either of these guys. Check out the remainder of Seattle's schedule: Sun 10/8 bye Sun 10/15 at St. Louis 1:00 pm Sun 10/22 Minnesota 4:15 pm Sun 10/29 at Kansas City 1:00 pm Mon 11/6 Oakland 8:30 pm Sun 11/12 St. Louis 4:15 pm Sun 11/19 at San Francisco 4:05 pm Mon 11/27 Green Bay 8:30 pm Sun 12/3 at Denver 4:15 pm Sun 12/10 at Arizona 4:05 pm Thu 12/14 San Francisco 8:00 pm Sun 12/24 San Diego 4:15 pm Sun 12/31 at Tampa Bay 1:00 pm Wouldn't it be nice to know your RB has this schedule going for him down the stretch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted October 2, 2006 And two weeks ago all the Portis owners were crying in their beer. This is the most reactionary board I have ever seen. How about some Proactive observations, that's what wins FF games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vertigo 0 Posted October 2, 2006 Alexander has had twice the career Portis has, one month doesn't change that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted October 2, 2006 Alexander has had twice the career Portis has, one month doesn't change that. avg season as a starter: Portis - 1482 yards, 12 TD's Alexander 1500 yards, 17 TD's So Alexander has been a more productive starter....but Portis is only 2k yards behind him and is 4 years younger...so I think portis career will end up with better yardage numbers (which is what we ultimately judge RB's on) "twice the career Portis has" was a dumb statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted October 2, 2006 This is easy... Jerious Norwood... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted October 2, 2006 The Best Running Back in the NFC I agree with most everyone else that it's Westbrook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 2, 2006 I agree with most everyone else that Westbrook will only play about 12 games this year. acreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted October 2, 2006 acreed. And he'd still be the best. Also funny that injury prone Portis has already missed games because of his injury. Probably miss more games than Westbrook this year. Any day now before that shoulder breaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 2, 2006 And he'd still be the best. Also funny that injury prone Portis has already missed games because of his injury. Probably miss more games than Westbrook this year. Any day now before that shoulder breaks. LOL. westbrook is the 3rd best back in the NFC East and that's when he's healthy. i know you're a dellusional iggles fan but c'mon. what, you're pumped that westbrook looked good against the texans and niners??? btw, nice fumble vs. the giants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted October 2, 2006 LOL. westbrook is the 3rd best back in the NFC East and that's when he's healthy. i know you're a dellusional iggles fan but c'mon. what, you're pumped that westbrook looked good against the texans and niners??? btw, nice fumble vs. the giants. Man, ur not joking.. So the best running back in the NFC is a guy who can't run between the tackles? Sweet.. Tiki and Portis are both better RUNNING BACKS We are talking football, not fake football.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieG 4 Posted October 2, 2006 ha ha.. dare anyone jump into a partisan tinged pi**sing match about stud RBs? After yesterday as far as FF, i'd rate them at about even and anybody who owns either has a very good point scoring RB. IMHO. Portis is the better classic RB, but you can't discount how special what Westbrook does in the passing game is. IMHO, the durabilty issue, as far as THIS SEASON goes, which is what is pertinent at present, is also about even. "Jerome From Southeast" is proving that he's a tough kid, playing as well as he is right now with his shoulder... he may be even better when he gets more fit. Granted. one big pop and he could be all done. westy, who i think is a terrific & very exciting guy to watch HAS ALWAYS BEEN considered a temperamental athlete from an injury standpoint -- the health of his legs always seem to be an issue. usually "the pundits" say that he is "undersized" for a back his size and not made for the pounding of a prototypical 20-22 cpg back. i find that a little weird, because there are plenty of typically smaller guys (Tiki, Portis, Reggie Bush, etc. etc. ) who you don't see given this "to small to pound" tag. I just think westy is a tad soft for prolonged, hardcore inside running -- he is terrific when healthy and used right though. hey, as long as we're being biased.. my vote goes to Tiki ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vertigo 0 Posted October 2, 2006 avg season as a starter: Portis - 1482 yards, 12 TD's Alexander 1500 yards, 17 TD's So Alexander has been a more productive starter....but Portis is only 2k yards behind him and is 4 years younger...so I think portis career will end up with better yardage numbers (which is what we ultimately judge RB's on) "twice the career Portis has" was a dumb statement. It was a legit statement. He's 4 years younger, great. That means he has to continue to put these numbers, which still aren't as good, up for 4 more years at least. No way he does that, he platoons already in Washington. Alexander won a MVP, Portis platoons. No contest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
War Ensemble 0 Posted October 2, 2006 It was a legit statement. He's 4 years younger, great. That means he has to continue to put these numbers, which still aren't as good, up for 4 more years at least. No way he does that, he platoons already in Washington. Alexander won a MVP, Portis platoons. No contest. Portis 27 carries, Betts 11. You call that platooning? When healthy, there's no way Portis is platooning with ANYONE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vertigo 0 Posted October 2, 2006 Portis 27 carries, Betts 11. You call that platooning? When healthy, there's no way Portis is platooning with ANYONE. Portis has to have at least 4 more years of numbers like this to even approach Alexander. No way that happens, and as the one dipshit showed, even his average yearly stats don't match up. Portis will never win an MVP or score 28 touchdowns either, has he ever won a playoff game? Alexander's Rick James, Portis' Charlie Murphy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enjoi525 0 Posted October 2, 2006 Portis will never win an MVP or score 28 touchdowns either, has he ever won a playoff game? yes, portis has won a playoff game, last year against the bucs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danskins22 0 Posted October 2, 2006 portis will run all over you and knock your helmet off if he has to block you.. he is a beast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 3, 2006 And he'd still be the best. Also funny that injury prone Portis has already missed games because of his injury. Probably miss more games than Westbrook this year. Any day now before that shoulder breaks. i can't believe westbrook actually missed a game...i don't believe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtammen 0 Posted October 3, 2006 Alexander has had twice the career Portis has, one month doesn't change that. Looks to me like Portis is going to gain about 1000 yards on Alexander this year. He will be closing in fast on Alexander. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted October 3, 2006 i can't believe westbrook actually missed a game...i don't believe it. They are saving him for next week Tirico said it best. Westbrook is the BEST all purpose RB in the league. Yes, the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 3, 2006 They are saving him for next week Tirico said it best. Westbrook is the BEST all purpose RB in the league. Yes, the league. that's a nice way of saying, 3rd down back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted October 3, 2006 that's a nice way of saying, 3rd down back. and 1st and 2nd too. He can run and make defenders look silly, and is a great weapon out of the backfield too. And Westy leads the league in TD's You can change your thread title anytime you want to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 3, 2006 They are saving him for next week Tirico said it best. Westbrook is the BEST all purpose RB in the league. Yes, the league. Tirico was wrong and there is absolutely no evidence to support it, except 3 early season explosions against teams with a combined 3-8 record. I'll take Portis all day, everyday. At least we know when and why he gets hurt, Westbrook just suddenly is out, with no reason to believe he will be back next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 3, 2006 and 1st and 2nd too. He can run and make defenders look silly, and is a great weapon out of the backfield too. And Westy leads the league in TD's You can change your thread title anytime you want to. yeah, he's SOOOO good that he's rushed for just a measely 1000 yards how many times? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted October 3, 2006 Tirico was wrong and there is absolutely no evidence to support it, Except that he's been the best all-purpose back in the league for years now. Yeah, nothing to support it and a guy who does football for a living is wrong. mmm 'kay. Hey, I'm not knocking Portis, he's good, but Westbrook is the best in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 3, 2006 Except that he's been the best all-purpose back in the league for years now. Yeah, nothing to support it and a guy who does football for a living is wrong. mmm 'kay. Hey, I'm not knocking Portis, he's good, but Westbrook is the best in the league. yeah, westbrook is better multi-purpose back than LT ...tirico like the rest of the MNF talk out their collective asses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
