Tarheel Boy 0 Posted November 10, 2006 GR good luck on your hedge...I really don't like it...I think Suns score 60+ this half...Dallas will get tired and the Suns played really bad the first half and still scored 55 Other than some poor turnovers where did the Suns play bad? They hit 7 3 pointers and damn near shot 60% from the field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted November 10, 2006 If anyone is interested I'll probably start posting my hoops picks on the geek board so not to clutter up the football threads. Since I follow the ACC extremely close that's what I'll focus primarily on and the Big XII. I'm still doing research on the mid majors. I'll still chime in on this thread if everyone else is still talking hoops. That is the current debate. Whether to post picks outside of football on the Geek Bored. I will do my bewst to make it so. It only makes sense. After Sunday/Monday, let's see what we can do.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted November 10, 2006 GR good luck on your hedge...I really don't like it...I think Suns score 60+ this half...Dallas will get tired and the Suns played really bad the first half and still scored 55 You're probably right, but I haven't done anything right tonight. Why stop now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SheVegas Posted November 10, 2006 Other than some poor turnovers where did the Suns play bad? They hit 7 3 pointers and damn near shot 60% from the field. We shall see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted November 10, 2006 Going for the hedge/middle. Too much of a bad night to make any money: Have Phoenix Over 105 for the game Took Phoenix Under 55.5 (-105) for the half (essentially Under 111.5) If there's any justice, Phoenix will score 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, or 111 points. Like everything else tonight though, I ain't holding my breath. I'm in. Might as well. Just don't hold it against me when it loses because I took it. I know you have friends coming in, but is there any chance you can take a look for any lines that are out of whack (like last week) or was that a once in a lifetime gift? I'll do my best, Wont force anything though... If anyone is interested I'll probably start posting my hoops picks on the geek board so not to clutter up the football threads. Since I follow the ACC extremely close that's what I'll focus primarily on and the Big XII. I'm still doing research on the mid majors. I'll still chime in on this thread if everyone else is still talking hoops. Im in. I can somewhat feel your enthusiasm through the board. If you post in the Geek thread alert us in the College Football thread.... Good Luck!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted November 10, 2006 We shall see lol, there's nothing to see. Phoenix played good and so did the Mavs. The only big difference was Dallas was more aggressive. I'm sure Phoenix will still put up points, but to say they played bad the first half is wrong. That is the current debate. Whether to post picks outside of football on the Geek Bored. I will do my bewst to make it so. It only makes sense. After Sunday/Monday, let's see what we can do.... Sounds good to me. An early hoops game this weekend I'm already looking at is Arizona/Virginia. I think Zona will be favored by 3 since it's at Virginia's new arena. The crowd will be pumped, but unless the line is over 5 I like Arizona. Yer Mom, I'll be sure and let you know when I post picks on the Geek board. College hoops is my favorite sport and I follow it closely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teddytime 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Philly why utep, I have seen them play a couple of times and have not been impressed and they have losted to some bad team!! just curious what you might see in the game! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted November 10, 2006 Philly why utep, I have seen them play a couple of times and have not been impressed and they have losted to some bad team!! just curious what you might see in the game! Believe me, I hate UTEP. I have faded them many times this year, including a hug win with Rice last weekend. But this is a great spot to fade UAB, another team I have been fading this year. Hammer this game if you want. But I will have an antii UAB writeup tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Went 2-1 on the night. STill can't get any NBA bets right. I'll probably wager on a couple of college hoops games for tomorrow. Looks like GR won his Phoenix over bet. Mavs finally played a full 48 minutes of solid basketball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SheVegas Posted November 10, 2006 GR- Sorry about your hedge bet, on the Suns under 2nd half...TARHEEL...I guess I saw....I said Suns over 60.....I like GR and was just trying to help...Don't know why a CRYheel needs to be an assmunch. CRYHEEL How did GR win this bet...the one you were bitching about? Took Phoenix Under 55.5 (-105) for the half (essentially Under 111.5) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted November 10, 2006 GR- Sorry about your hedge bet, on the Suns under 2nd half...TARHEEL...I guess I saw....I said Suns over 60.....I like GR and was just trying to help...Don't know why a CRYheel needs to be an assmunch. If you look earlier in the thread you'll see where I said the Suns would score 115 which they pretty much did I believe. You said the Suns played really bad in the first half and all I did was say how they didn't play that bad when they scored 55 points, shot 60 percent from the field and over 60% behind the arc. I think it's pretty obvious they couldn't have been playing that bad. But if it makes you feel better that I pointed out some facts to dispute what you said then feel free. And I was referring to his original bet of the Suns over 105, genius. If you read a little close he said he was HEDGING the bet. Let me know if you need help with the big words. Going for the hedge/middle. Too much of a bad night to make any money: Have Phoenix Over 105 for the game For Shewhatever, Reading the whole thread is a tip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SheVegas Posted November 10, 2006 HEY CRYHEEL ######...listen up...I told him I didn't like the halftime hedge.....Because the Suns did play bad the first half offensive speacking...2 many turnovers...that is why I thought they would put up 60 plus the secon=d half, I also figured the Suns would run more because the Mavs would be tired....You shot your wad saying the Suns did not play bad...blah blah blah....I was trying to help out another gambler.....I also was right so shut the hell up....with your over 105 comment...since I never said that was a bad bet...CRYHEEL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted November 10, 2006 I don't think you have much to worry about, honestly. Unless the Suns have tired legs from travel they'll put up the points. I wouldn't be surprised if they put up around 115. I know I probably sound like a p!ssed of Mavs fan, and I am, but the fact is their defense has sucked. Any more questions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SheVegas Posted November 10, 2006 Went 2-1 on the night. STill can't get any NBA bets right. I'll probably wager on a couple of college hoops games for tomorrow. Looks like GR won his Phoenix over bet. Mavs finally played a full 48 minutes of solid basketball. Because you don't have a clue on the NBA Any more questions? OMG you are an idiot...if you thought the Suns would put up 115 and they had 56 at halftime why would you say an under 55.5 halftime hedge is good....That is why you have no clue of the NBA...moron.....anymore questions....oh wait here is an answer...115-56= 59 that is greater then a 55.5 half....donkeyheel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Because you don't have a clue on the NBA Yeah, I don't know anything about the NBA and college hoops. None. Zip. Nada. I'm pretty sure if you ask around the geek board you'll be in the minority. But, hey I'll defer to your obvious basketball prowess. And I was talking about GR's over 105 all along like I said. I never said the half time bet was good or bad, just disagreed with your assessment of how the Suns played in the first half and you cry like a little girl. Continue on, but I'm done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SheVegas Posted November 10, 2006 Yeah, I don't know anything about the NBA and college hoops. None. Zip. Nada. I'm pretty sure if you ask around the geek board you'll be in the minority. But, hey I'll defer to your obvious basketball prowess. And I was talking about GR's over 105 all along like I said. I never said the half time bet was good or bad, just disagreed with your assessment of how the Suns played in the first half and you cry like a little girl. Continue on, but I'm done. NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUTH BUSHLEAGE BALL I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE NBA>>>YOU TAMPON WASTE....avoid the truth .... you will feel better geekboy...or geek board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted November 10, 2006 Total on thread pages for this week: 12.5 Over -135 Under +115 I played the OVER here..... Good Luck!! P.S. Reading this, Tarheel has a clear simple point about the original 105 Team total over bet and that Phoenix while not out of this world, played a decent first half. Rodney King asks if we can all just get along... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
needmoremoney 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Ugh.. just got home and saw the result of the Rutgers game. Fun stuff.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SheVegas Posted November 10, 2006 YER Mom I didn't say anything about the original 105 bet....In fact I took Suns over 106.....I simply said to GR I did not like his hedge bet because I felt the Suns played bad the first half....meaning they left a lot of points on the court because of the turnovers...and figured the Suns for 60+ the second half....But if you can find me saying anything about a bad bet for the Suns scoring over 105 ....I will give you a blank check. Waiting for an answer By the way one eye CRYHEEL BOOYEA STU SCOTT....I looked for you on the greek, geek or freak board and can not find any of your nba picks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SheVegas Posted November 10, 2006 GR- Sorry about your hedge bet, on the Suns under 2nd half...TARHEEL...I guess I saw....I said Suns over 60.....I like GR and was just trying to help...Don't know why a CRYheel needs to be an assmunch. CRYHEEL How did GR win this bet...the one you were bitching about? Took Phoenix Under 55.5 (-105) for the half (essentially Under 111.5) Hey CRYHEEL man of all answers...I looked back and see you never answered the last part of my ?.....How did GR win the under 55.5 Suns bet....the one that I commented on ...DUMBAZZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted November 10, 2006 I aint mad at cha Lets just post winners and discussion here....starting...now. Good Luck!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SheVegas Posted November 10, 2006 Sounds good Yer and good luck to you this weekend and to GR, Philly, Ditka, and even you Mr. Heel....I was just venting becuse I was trying to help GR who helped me in the past and well you can read the outcome...about who was right...Again good luck everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBFAVRE4 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Hope I had a hand in that for ya. Anytime an undefeated home team is getting 12% of the Public AND POINTS...I am going to ROLL HARD!!! Hell yes Scarlet Knights!!! Thanks to those of you that talked me into taking Rutgers. I almost took Louisville, but switched at the last minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Hope I had a hand in that for ya.Anytime an undefeated home team is getting 12% of the Public AND POINTS...I am going to ROLL HARD!!! Hell yes Scarlet Knights!!! Yep, you did. You, Philly, Yer Mom are the 3 I can think of off the top of my head. Thanks again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted November 10, 2006 I didn't mean to spark arguments with my sh!tty night. A one-point loss in the Rutgers game. Missing my Phoenix team total hedge by half a fvcking point. Just absolute garbage. It just has to get better...unless it needs to get worse first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cribdog 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Wow, first time I opened this thread, started here on page 8. It was like the twilight zone, I coulda sworn I opened the college football wagering thread, but on this page it is the NBA thread. Man o man, I used to love this thread, now there is too much crap on it to find anything useful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Wow, first time I opened this thread, started here on page 8. It was like the twilight zone, I coulda sworn I opened the college football wagering thread, but on this page it is the NBA thread. Man o man, I used to love this thread, now there is too much crap on it to find anything useful. Dude, relax. Money is money. It's not like we're talking about new toilet seat covers and shopping for curtains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane Ditka 0 Posted November 10, 2006 OK, I just peeled my head up off the mat to realize that Louisville deserved to get sent back to the ranks of "your not good enough to play for the national title". The NFL and midweek college games have just killed me this year. Going 11-2 last Saturday on all 5 unit plays got me ahead around $700. I have given half of that back in 5 days. I still can't figure out how Rutgers got so good in such a short time. I will blame Balco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
needmoremoney 0 Posted November 10, 2006 OK, I just peeled my head up off the mat to realize that Louisville deserved to get sent back to the ranks of "your not good enough to play for the national title". The NFL and midweek college games have just killed me this year. Going 11-2 last Saturday on all 5 unit plays got me ahead around $700. I have given half of that back in 5 days. I still can't figure out how Rutgers got so good in such a short time. I will blame Balco. hahahha Balco indeed. More and more I look at UTEP, the more I like them. Plus, they got cooler helmets so I'll go with them tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4i's 0 Posted November 10, 2006 The line tonight went from Pk to -2 UAB. If it STAYS at -2 or more by game time, I will hit on UTEP since majority is picking UAB to win. I'm betting just by watching the line moving, no feeling about any teams in college. Here are my picks for Saturday that the line is moving of 2 or more pts. My picks are CAPITALIZED, and if the spread moved back to where it first open, then I would stay away from the game. SYRACUSE +10 @ S. Florida Navy -15 @. E. MICHIGAN HOUSTON -3 @ Southern Methodist U. KENT STATE +31 @ Virgina Tech DUKE+30 @ Boston College WAKE FOREST +8.5 @ Florida State U. UNLV +9.5 @ San Diego State U. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OGAR 0 Posted November 10, 2006 OK, I just peeled my head up off the mat to realize that Louisville deserved to get sent back to the ranks of "your not good enough to play for the national title". The NFL and midweek college games have just killed me this year. Going 11-2 last Saturday on all 5 unit plays got me ahead around $700. I have given half of that back in 5 days. I still can't figure out how Rutgers got so good in such a short time. I will blame Balco. Blame yourself, if you didn't drop the same nickle on BYU that I did. I still dropped a dollar on L'ville but thought I might, thus the nickle on the cover machine that is BYU. 55-7??!?! Thats what I am talking about. PS Cover machine #2: Wisonsin @ Iowa. Love the cheese-wiz-heads in this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted November 10, 2006 Sigh. I am really frustrated. I haven't had a winning night since last Friday and Saturday. Time to rethink my strategy. Rule #1. No more hockey this year. Goodbye pucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dleake8806 0 Posted November 10, 2006 anyone have any thoughts on tonights games, Central Michigan vs. Western Michigan or UTEP vs. UAB? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OGAR 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Ladies and Germs, Missed rapping with you all this year but responsbility is a heavy freaking responsibilty. Hope everyone is having some fun. Lord knows we are going to end up losers in the end. Philly you got your Hockey and I have the NFL. No more for me, thank you very much. I can't figure the freaking pros out. How does Atlanta and Chicago lose to Det and Mia??? I freaking give up. However, I have been doing very well playing CFB. As I mentioned earlier, BYU, Wisconsin and Ohio St have been very good to me. So, without further to do, here is my card for tomorrow. Wisconsin -2 for 4 units. Stucco is on a roll and Iowa seems to have packed it in for the season. Arkansas -6 for 4 units. Love the way them hogs run the ball. Houston -3 (anyone have a clue why this line opened at -6.5 and now has dropped to 3??) for 2 units. Oregon +8 for 2 units. May consider the ML here. USC is not the same USC from the last few years IMO. South Carolina +12.5 for 3 units at the biggest cocktail party. The ole ball coach should be able to keep this one fairly close as Fla doesn't blow anyone out. Texas a.m. and the 12th man in a pickem vs Nebraska. Should be 3 points. I'll take a.m. to win. 3 units. Boise St - 13.5 isn't on the blue turf but should still out class San Jose st. Possible leans. LSU -18. Seems high but still leaning. Like Northwestern +23 vs Ohio st, simply do to the look ahead factor. Let me hear what you all think. GL all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Shepherd 10 Posted November 10, 2006 anyone have any thoughts on tonights games, Central Michigan vs. Western Michigan or UTEP vs. UAB? I'd say the betters on this site are going with CMich and UTEP tonight. Many are riding someone named Dr Bob at covers.com who also backs UTEP. Dr Bob is like Greenspan - he farts and the line jumps 2 points. I've seen some pretty good reasoning for betting on CMich, and the line has not acted up too much. As a matter of fact, it's seems to be stuck at 6. I this case I'd recommend watching where the last minute money goes and go with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leo2228 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Dose any body think Ohio StateOhio State will cover -23 against Northwestern. I think OS will want to rest there player for next week what do you guys think ? and what about Oklahoma -8.5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted November 10, 2006 Overall College YTD: 200-170-4; +33.47 units Subset: 2 unit plays or higher: 95-71; +45.22 units CFL: 21-13; +15.95 units NBA: 22-18-1; +4.45 units NCAA baskets: 1-2; -1.2 units NFL (Reset, last three weeks): 22-20-1; +.75 units I am in a slump again. I'll edit in baskets later today. Lots of college games today. Friday NBA Toronto (-4.5) LOSER Denver (+3) WINNER New Jersey (-4.5) LOSER NCAA Wofford (+13) WINNER Cal Poly Slo (-4) for 2 units LOSER!! Penn St (-16.5) WINNER CS Northridge (+2) for 2 units WINNER!! San Diego St (-8.5) LOSER Georgia Tech (-20.5) WINNER Samford (+24.5) LOSER Texas (-27) LOSER Clemson (-12.5) for 2 units WINNER!! Oklahoma St (-27) WINNER Butler (-2) WINNER Oregon (-19) for 2 units LOSER!! Hawaii (+7.5) LOSER Portland U (+10) for 2 units LOSER!! College Football Central Michigan (-6) for 2 units WINNER!! UTEP (+2) for 3 units WINNER!!!!! Pending wager: Parlay 2 units to win 12 units WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Golden St 2nd H (-1) WINNER Central Mich (-6) WINNER UTEP (+2) WINNER CMU gains 4.3 yards per rush vs teams that allow 4.3 ypr CMU completes 60.9% of passes vs teams that allow 59.8% CMU gains 5.9 yards per play vs teams that allow 5.6 ypp CMU allows 3.4 ypr vs teams that gain 3.5 ypr CMU allows 63.4% of completions vs team gaining 59.2% CMU allows 5.0 yards per play vs teams that gain 5.0 ypp WMU gains 4.0 yards per rush vs teams that allow 4.4 ypr WMU completes 65.9% of passes vs teams that allow 61.1% WMU gains 5.0 yards per play vs teams that allow 5.8 ypp WMU allows 2.5 ypr vs teams that gain 3.4 ypr WMU allows 60.4% of completions vs team gaining 58.4% WMU allows 4.8 yards per play vs teams that gain 4.9 ypp This game is for a spot in the MAC championship game. Central Michigan is by far the best team in the MAC this year. Their balanced offense has seen CMU QB LeFevour throw for 261 ypg and 13 TDs with just 2 ints last 5 games and RB Sneed last 2 games 261 YR, 5 TDs vs. Bowling Green and Temple. CMU 4-0 SU last 4 games this year, winning by 22,11,17,16 and come into this game on a roll. In fact, CMU is 12-2-2 ATS roll since 2005. The three CMU losses have come against Boston College, Michigan, and Kentucky, with Mich and Kentucky games on the road. CMU is 5-0 in conference play. CMU is second in the MAC with 250 yards passing per game; WMU has one of the best overall defenses in the MAC, only Ohio U was able to run for more than 100 yards, but they allow 210 passing yards per game. Western Mich really struggled the last two weeks, eeking out a pair of 3 point wins over the dregs of the MAC in Eastern Mich and Miami OH. Last year, WMU beat CMU 31-24; CMU outgained Western Michigan 575-365, but turned the ball over four times. The home team is 10-5-1 ATS last 16 meetings. I have played Central Michigan many times this year. I will lay the lumber with them again. UTEP gains 2.9 yards per rush vs teams that allow 4.1 ypr UTEP completes 65.0% of passes vs teams that allow 60.0% UTEP gains 5.9 yards per play vs teams that allow 5.5 ypp UTEP allows 4.2 ypr vs teams that gain 3.8 ypr UTEP allows 66.9% of completions vs team gaining 63.2% UTEP allows 5.6 yards per play vs teams that gain 5.7 ypp UAB gains 3.7 yards per rush vs teams that allow 4.0 ypr UAB completes 58.1% of passes vs teams that allow 59.1% UAB gains 5.0 yards per play vs teams that allow 5.5 ypp UAB allows 4.4 ypr vs teams that gain 3.9 ypr UAB allows 62.8% of completions vs team gaining 58.9% UAB allows 5.6 yards per play vs teams that gain 5.5 ypp UTEP is a better team on offense and defense. UAB HC Watson Brown is under fire for his job. He just complained his UAB defense lacks toughness. Last year UTEP needed a win to wrap up the Conference USA West Title but UAB controlled 21-3 at the half for a 35-23, UTEP’s only home loss. UTEP dropped its final regular season game and its bowl game. That loss ruined their season. Big time revenge game. UAB is struggling mightily on offense, and couldn't even score a touchdown vs. a bad SMU defense last week. UAB has allowed 22,31,34,29 vs SMU, Marshall, Rice, and Memphis the last couple of games prior to SMU, and UTEP is a better offense. UAB has injury problems with their RBs UTEP is still in bowl contention at 4-5 and desperately need this win, UAB is 3-6 and is done.UTEP is 11th in the nation in passing. UAB is 1-6-1 ATS this year. UAB is 3-6 ATS at home last 9. I think UTEP simply outscores UAB tonight. My book doesn' have a moneyline on this game, so I'll take the points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bouve-Rules 0 Posted November 10, 2006 PS Cover machine #2: Wisonsin @ Iowa. Love the cheese-wiz-heads in this one. Aside from the Illinois game, Wisconsin has been a machine. What is the story on Stocco's shoulder? He got banged up last week and was replaced by the back-up late in the game. Leaning towards: Minnesota -1.5 Wisconsin -2 (assuming Stocco plays) Eastern Michigan +15 Iowas St. +8.5 Illinois -3 Rice +14 UConn +8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oredigger 0 Posted November 10, 2006 My plays for tonight and what I have for tomorrow - so far: Friday CMich -6 1 unit UTEP ML 2 units Parlay CMich -6/UTEP +1.5 1 unit Saturday Ore ML 1 unit Ore +8 1 unit SJST +14 2 units NM +6.5 2 units Navy -15 1 unit Wisc -2 2 units TAMU +1 2 units (would have taken the ML, but it was closed at my book ) Parlay Pitt -8/Cent FL -2/BC -30 1 unit Good luck everyone!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J_Dizzy 0 Posted November 10, 2006 Just a heads up that Stocco is not playing this week and will not play until the Bowl game. His arm has been in a sling all week. Still a good play though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites