Poll: Brady vs. Manning

[D_House 0]

Peyton Manning!

[Strike 5,532]

I say Brady. This year did it for me, regardless of the outcome of this weekend's game. Granted, the Patriots as a team have the uncanny ability to pull wins out of their asses, and Brady isn't always the reason for it (see the Chargers game), but when a clutch throw needs to be made, he makes it.

 

Even more impressive is how he gets his teammates to step up as well. They say the greats make their teammates better, who heard of Jabar Gaffney or Reche Caldwell before the playoffs?

 

I'd heard of both of those guys

[Cdub100 3,903]

who heard of Jabar Gaffney or Reche Caldwell before the playoffs?

 

I would say most football fans have.

[D_House 0]

Sure, fantasy geeks like us have heard of them (really, how many people that aren't fantasy geeks care about San Diego's #3 WR or Houston's #2 WR?), but they weren't exactly productive WRs on their original teams. Now after a year with Brady they are putting up 100 yd games against playoff-caliber defenses. That's all I meant to say.

[D_House 0]

Lots of Manning love here.

[bostonlager 2,664]

I'm driving over to the game this week just to watch another epic choke by the one that will never wear a championship ring.

[patsnsox04 0]

Who's the Best QB in the League?

 

 

Who ever said

Theres o such thing as a dumb question

 

Was WRONG!!!!

 

[gocolts 300]

Peyton Manning

[TommyGavin 790]

Fantasy Football Regular season - Manning.

 

To get it done in the playoffs FOR REAL ? Brady Hands down.

 

[drobeski 3,061]

I would say most football fans have.

you left out the word "fantasy"

 

hth

[D_House 0]

bump?

[redtodd 7]

I know Manning won today. But I will always still go with Brady. He has already won 3 titles, Manning might win his 1st this year.

 

Plus Brady has not been throwing to Pro Bowl receivers while Manning has. Brady's best receiver in his career was Branch, who is just a role player now on the Seahawks even when Jackson is not playing. Gaffney and Caldwell would not even be the #3 receiver on most teams, much less #1 and #2. He has always been working with less than with Manning.

[itsbigmoni 1]

I'll go with Brady but i don't want to take anything away for manning. Brady has always had a better defense. This year was the first year their LB corps started showing their age, but their d-line and DB's are pretty good. The DB's made a bunch of great plays early in the game. Also, we don't know how great harrison or wayne would have been on other teams. Even wayne took a few years to develop. Harrison isn't the fastest, most sure handed, highest jumper, biggest, WR in the nfl by any means. If he played in Houston with Carr, maybe we would be talking about him like we talk about gaffney. And look at stokley. I seriously doubt he would've lasted this long in the league with any other team. He just demands a work ethic out of his receivers so they can get the timing down. Manning has shown to be clutch before too. This season he had a few big drives at the end of games, plus the amazing 21 point comeback against a good buc's defense.

[D_House 0]

bump.

[edjr 6,580]

Congrats to Manning for winning the SuperBowl with a better team than Brady ever had.

 

Brady > manning

[wiffleball 4,790]

Manning gets the nod on a few fronts:

 

1) Manning calls the plays. No way egomaniac Belechik ever allows that for Brady.

2) Manning's a better pure passer.

 

 

Brady is basically the guy who manages the game. If you watch him, you don't think 'great QB', but you DO think he's a guy who's been to 3-4 SuperBowls. The QB role for the Pats is a bit like the role of the QB in Billick's system. - You don't have to win the game, just don't lose it. Brady is pretty much interchangable. -You can't say that about Manning in the Colts system.

 

The Brady lovers will hang on 'number of SB victories' until/unless Manning catches up. That's not the whole story - unless you're prepared to make the case that Brady>Marino, Elway, Montana.

 

Comparison-wise, I'd put Manning in the Montana category and Brady in the 'Favre' category (assuming continued success). Niether are unflattering comparisons - just different styles.

 

Other facts:

 

1) Manning has thrown for over 4,000 yards in six out of his 8 seasons in the NFL. Brady has done it just once.

 

2) Manning averages 30.5 touchdown passes per year. Brady averages only 24.6 touchdown passes in seasons in which he started at least 15 games.

 

3) Manning has career quarterback rating of 94.3. Brady has a career quarterback rating of 88.8.

 

 

But if you ask me who I'd rather be - Brady all the way. Lucky sombiotch.

[Celticspride 0]

Manning gets the nod on a few fronts:

 

1) Manning calls the plays. No way egomaniac Belechik ever allows that for Brady.

2) Manning's a better pure passer.

Brady is basically the guy who manages the game. If you watch him, you don't think 'great QB', but you DO think he's a guy who's been to 3-4 SuperBowls. The QB role for the Pats is a bit like the role of the QB in Billick's system. - You don't have to win the game, just don't lose it. Brady is pretty much interchangable. -You can't say that about Manning in the Colts system.

 

The Brady lovers will hang on 'number of SB victories' until/unless Manning catches up. But, comparison-wise, I'd put Manning in the Montana category and Brady in the 'Favre' category (assuming continued success). Niether are unflattering comparisons - just different styles.

But if you ask me who I'd rather be - Brady all the way. Lucky sombiotch.

 

Thats ridiculous. I can understand the Manning is better than Brady argument, and I'd freely admit that Manning outplayed Brady this year, and not just because the Colts finally beat New England, but because Manning had another spectacular year and Brady consistently missed open receivers (there's been speculation that he could've been hurt or maybe its just lack of familiarity with his new WRs), but whatever the case, Brady had an off year...But having said that, to just call Brady a "game manager", in the same category as Trent Dilfer or something, is the most ridiculously innacurate comment ever. Look at his numbers- they are not the same as Mannings, but they are very good. And he's had to lead his team to victory in 2 of his 3 super bowl victories, he hardly just "managed" the game...

 

And without Tom Brady, Adam Vinatieri would just be known as a pretty good FG kicker...no one would be talking about him as a potential HOFer...He'd also probably still be a Patriot, making a lot less money than he currently is.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Manning gets the nod on a few fronts:

 

1) Manning calls the plays. No way egomaniac Belechik ever allows that for Brady.

 

 

You sir, are an idiot. Brady pretty much runs that offense all by himself. Or how else did you think the Patriots got by with not having any offensive coordinator last year, and then this year having an offensive coordinator who is 31 years old?

[wiffleball 4,790]

You sir, are an idiot. Brady pretty much runs that offense all by himself. Or how else did you think the Patriots got by with not having any offensive coordinator last year, and then this year having an offensive coordinator who is 31 years old?

 

 

because anybody with half an ounce of sense about what goes on with the Pats knows that Belichik is such an egomaniac that HE calls the plays. Not exactly unusual to see a HC be OC as well. You honestly think that Brady is serving as OC while Belichik plays pocket pool on the sidelines? Who's the idiot??

 

I know you've got a boner for the guy - he's cool as hell - but he is NOT calling the plays like Mannnig is. And, your argument is "why would they rely on a 31 y.o. OC? - doesn't quite work when Brady's 29.

 

QB coach Josh McDaniels, 30, also received the coordinator's duties in January and supposedly calls the plays in conjunction with coach Bill Belichick. The Patriots are comfortable pounding away with multiple tight ends in their gap-style ground game or flooding the field with wide receivers from "empty" formations. They run on 46.3% of the downs. New England ranks 11th in points (22.3) and yards (345.0), and is tied for 11th in turnovers (15).

[Chronic Husker 85]

It's easy to pick Manning right after winning the Super Bowl, but the game he played against the Pats was his most impressive game, IMO. He seemingly hit Harrison and Wayne on those 12-15 yard outs perfect every time. That's the throw that scouts key on when judging players out of college and Manning throws it consistently accurate more than any QB I've ever seen.

 

Brady is great but can't make the throws Peyton can make.

[wiffleball 4,790]

Brady is great but can't make the throws Peyton can make.

 

That's it. If you look at Brady in the SB, he only has one TD pass over 5 yards - and not a single one over 8 yards. It's a 'dink and dunk' system. Very little risk, but won't result in the kind of spectacular long balls you see from the Manning, Marino and Montana.