Has there ever been a more hypocritical ex-VEEP than Algore?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Yet another example of liberal "Do as I say, not as I do" bullsqueeze.

 

 

POWER: GORE MANSION USES 20X AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD; CONSUMPTION INCREASE AFTER 'TRUTH'

Mon Feb 26 2007 17:16:14 ET

 

The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization committed to achieving a freer, more prosperous Tennessee through free market policy solutions, issued a press release late Monday:

 

 

 

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

 

Gore’s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

 

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

 

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.

 

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

 

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

 

Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

 

“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.

 

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

 

For Further Information, Contact:

Nicole Williams, (615) 383-6431

editor@tennesseepolicy.org

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No, there hasn't been..... Subject closed.

 

IMO, there is nothing at all wrong with flying your Gulfstream (or whatever he has) across the world on a whim, but when you preach the way Gore does about "saving the environment", at least fly first class commercial.

 

As Doc Holiday once said.."Al Gores hypocricy knows no bounds".

 

[Old School 360]

It's ok. His other 2 homes aren't as big as that one. They are certain to use less power than that one.

[Boz/BoFan 0]

Ex Veep....no. Liberal in general.....yes. Take a look at any W-2 from any liberal who had the option to pay a higher tax. Guess what you'll find. Liberals are fockin garbage. Marxist commie trash who dont have the ballz to admit they are communist.

[Cyber Gandalf 0]

RP...we should put a carbon tax on your stupidity!

[Big_Pete 0]

RP...we should put a carbon tax on your stupidity!

Do explain

[Cyber Gandalf 0]

Do explain

 

This guy wastes more oxygen with his hot air...and hatred of workers.

[football_scooter 0]

hey, lighten up on the guy. If it weren't for him, we wouldn't have the Internet - after all, he inventored it.

[akaoni 0]

Gore responds:

 

1) Gore's family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.

 

2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family's carbon footprint - a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore's office explains:

 

What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore's do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

 

Find out more information on Carbon Offsets here.

 

As to the whole "Gore invented the internet" issue, I'll repost an abreviated version of my post from here.

 

I think that Gore's statement during the 2000 presidential race: I took initiative in creating the Internet, has generated more than it's share of abuse and misuse. Was it inelegantly phrased? Yes. That said during the 1980s few politicians had as much to do with the development of the Internet as we know it today, as did Al Gore. Here's what Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, two of the founding fathers of the Internet, had to say about Gore in the wake of his statement:

 

 

Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the

Internet and to promote and support its development.

 

No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the

Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among

people in government and the university community. But as the two people

who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the

Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a

Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to

our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time.

 

[...]

 

There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid growth

since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political support

for its privatization and continued support for research in advanced

networking technology. No one in public life has been more intellectually

engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the

Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this effort, both in the

councils of government and with the public at large.

 

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value

of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and

consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American

citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.

 

Because of Gore's overstatement during a live debate his real and substantive contributions to the development of the Internet have largely ignored. In part because of his efforts we can have these informative discussions here at FFToday.

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Gore responds:

Find out more information on Carbon Offsets here.

 

As to the whole "Gore invented the internet" issue, I'll repost an abreviated version of my post from here.

 

I think that Gore's statement during the 2000 presidential race: I took initiative in creating the Internet, has generated more than it's share of abuse and misuse. Was it inelegantly phrased? Yes. That said during the 1980s few politicians had as much to do with the development of the Internet as we know it today, as did Al Gore. Here's what Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, two of the founding fathers of the Internet, had to say about Gore in the wake of his statement:

Because of Gore's overstatement during a live debate his real and substantive contributions to the development of the Internet have largely ignored. In part because of his efforts we can have these informative discussions here at FFToday.

 

I hate it when people introduce facts into these ideogical circle jerks!!!!

[akaoni 0]

I hate it when people introduce facts into these ideogical circle jerks!!!!

 

I just can't help myself.

[Bert 1,128]

In part because of his efforts we can have these informative discussions here at FFToday.

 

Agreed.....But there are about 5 million people who contributed as much and more that aren't going around claiming they invented the internet.

[IndyTom 0]

Gore responds:

Find out more information on Carbon Offsets here.

 

As to the whole "Gore invented the internet" issue, I'll repost an abreviated version of my post from here.

 

I think that Gore's statement during the 2000 presidential race: I took initiative in creating the Internet, has generated more than it's share of abuse and misuse. Was it inelegantly phrased? Yes. That said during the 1980s few politicians had as much to do with the development of the Internet as we know it today, as did Al Gore. Here's what Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, two of the founding fathers of the Internet, had to say about Gore in the wake of his statement:

Because of Gore's overstatement during a live debate his real and substantive contributions to the development of the Internet have largely ignored. In part because of his efforts we can have these informative discussions here at FFToday.

 

After reading this, I still don't know what his "contributions" were. That he used it often? Did he write code? Create networks? Help write the OSI model? Telling people about the internet doesn't count as a contribution. We can all take credit for that.

[Snoopy1 0]

Agreed.....But there are about 5 million people who contributed as much and more that aren't going around claiming they invented the internet.

 

Neither does he....HTH

[akaoni 0]

After reading this, I still don't know what his "contributions" were. That he used it often? Did he write code? Create networks? Help write the OSI model? Telling people about the internet doesn't count as a contribution. We can all take credit for that.

 

Amongst other things, Gore was a major proponent of the development and funding of the internet from the 70s until today. Again Cerf and Kahn note:

 

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed

telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the

improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official

to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact

than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily

forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial

concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even

earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we

know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in

the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual

leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high

speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on

how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating

the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.

 

As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate

what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into

an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials

in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the

passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in

1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education

Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the

spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.

 

As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as

well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies

that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for

continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private

sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of

extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,

approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore

provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the

Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven

operation.

 

Gore's influence on the development on the internet may be a big joke for folks on the right, but Gore's influence on the creation of the modern internet was likely more profound than any other politician's. Did he invent the internet? Of course not, but he was a proponent of its development before most people even owned computers...

[Isotopes 1]

Agreed.....But there are about 5 million people who contributed as much and more that aren't going around claiming they invented the internet.

 

Al Gore never claimed that he invented the Internet. A bunch of people think it is hilarious to repeat the untrue claim over and over though.

[IndyTom 0]

Amongst other things, Gore was a major proponent of the development and funding of the internet from the 70s until today. Again Cerf and Kahn note:

Gore's influence on the development on the internet may be a big joke for folks on the right, but Gore's influence on the creation of the modern internet was likely more profound than any other politician's. Did he invent the internet? Of course not, but he was a proponent of its development before most people even owned computers...

 

Reading this certainly brings clarity to the issue.

 

So does this:

 

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail...mp;first=vinton

[phillybear 366]

While it is very true that Al Gore has a scary effeminate speaking voice than makes you question his sexuality, he is rich. Just let the man spend it on whatever he wants.

[akaoni 0]

Reading this certainly brings clarity to the issue.

 

So does this:

 

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail...mp;first=vinton

 

One does not exclude the other. Is Cerf a Dem supporter? Looks like it. It doesn't really matter to me. I just think that the whole "Gore inventored the internet" comment is a frequently used slam that doesn't hold much value in reality. Regardless of your views of his politics, I think it's important to note that Gore did act as a substantial proponent for the development of the modern internet. If you don't want to believe Cerf and Kahn because of their potential political leanings then take a look at what Wikipedia has to say on the topic. I won't repost it here, but it does detail some of Gore's significant contributions to the development of the Internet including authoring the High Performance Computing Act and the High Performance Computing and Communication Act, and promoting the internet as a resource for all Americans.

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It's not just Gore, it's a vast number of the holier-than-thou environuts out there.

 

I'm not saying that we don't need to take action to help preserve the environment, but my experience/observations have shown me that a great many of these people are collassal hypocrites.

 

As if buying these "green credits" offsets the conspicuous consumption that the multiple homes, private aircraft and yachts of these celebs are guilty of.

 

A perfect example...last spring I was at my buddy's wedding. There was this girl there who I hadn't seen in quite a while. She was always kind of "crunchy"...a little hippy granola-type...who was completely unreliable in many ways...particularly when it came to employment. Last I had heard of her, she was hopping from bartender job to bartender job (as she hopped from bed to bed of bar owners.)

 

Fast forward to years later at the wedding and she's reinvented herself as an environmental activist. Not that she went to school for this or anything, so she was really more of a self-made environmental activist. All night long complete and utter bullsh|t spewed from her cute little mouf (34B, by the way.)

 

First, she rambled on about how she would be dead in a few years b/c someone was going to kill her to stop her earth-shattering whistle-blowing.

 

Then, she went on and on about how Mrs. DaveBG and I should promise not to have any children b/c it was wrong to bring a child into the world today. There were already too many people on the planet, so I shouldn't procreate b/c there wouldn't be any clean water for my children to drink as they got older.

 

The BEST, though, came when I met her boyfreind and then asked him what he did for a living. HE WAS A SALESMAN OF PERSONAL JETS! When I pressed the nutjob hippy about how she could reconcile her beliefs w/his profession, she gave me some cawk and bull story about how the new jets got so much better mileage than the previous models..yadda yadda yadda. When I repeatedly pointed out that getting a ticket on a commercial airliner would be more friendly to the environment she got p|ssed and stormed off in a cloud of curse words.

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You know the conservanuts are getting pretty desperate when they're reduced to swift-boating a person who isn't even a candidate (yet).

[IndyTom 0]

You know the conservanuts are getting pretty desperate when they're reduced to swift-boating a person who isn't even a candidate (yet).

 

 

I know Gore didn't mean to imply he created the Internet. Obviously, from the quotes provided within this thread, he has knocked down some political hurdles (with some PAC checks as well, it seems) to forward the cause. I get that.

 

Personally, I am not concerned if Gore or Hillary become candidates, because they are beatable. The GOP is worried about Obama - not the others.

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The right wing is showing an alarming lack of creativity with these latest attempts at mud-slinging.

 

What ever happened to the Rove/Scaife/Perry mojo?

[D_House 0]

It's not just Gore, it's a vast number of the holier-than-thou environuts out there.

 

I'm not saying that we don't need to take action to help preserve the environment, but my experience/observations have shown me that a great many of these people are collassal hypocrites.

 

As if buying these "green credits" offsets the conspicuous consumption that the multiple homes, private aircraft and yachts of these celebs are guilty of.

 

A perfect example...last spring I was at my buddy's wedding. There was this girl there who I hadn't seen in quite a while. She was always kind of "crunchy"...a little hippy granola-type...who was completely unreliable in many ways...particularly when it came to employment. Last I had heard of her, she was hopping from bartender job to bartender job (as she hopped from bed to bed of bar owners.)

 

Fast forward to years later at the wedding and she's reinvented herself as an environmental activist. Not that she went to school for this or anything, so she was really more of a self-made environmental activist. All night long complete and utter bullsh|t spewed from her cute little mouf (34B, by the way.)

 

First, she rambled on about how she would be dead in a few years b/c someone was going to kill her to stop her earth-shattering whistle-blowing.

 

Then, she went on and on about how Mrs. DaveBG and I should promise not to have any children b/c it was wrong to bring a child into the world today. There were already too many people on the planet, so I shouldn't procreate b/c there wouldn't be any clean water for my children to drink as they got older.

 

The BEST, though, came when I met her boyfreind and then asked him what he did for a living. HE WAS A SALESMAN OF PERSONAL JETS! When I pressed the nutjob hippy about how she could reconcile her beliefs w/his profession, she gave me some cawk and bull story about how the new jets got so much better mileage than the previous models..yadda yadda yadda. When I repeatedly pointed out that getting a ticket on a commercial airliner would be more friendly to the environment she got p|ssed and stormed off in a cloud of curse words.

great story.

[Strike 5,491]

Gore responds:

 

 

Actions speak louder than words. Gore's actions don't support his argument that he is trying to conserve:

 

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

 

The statement above says a lot more than anything out of Gore's mouth, especially in light of his exaagerated claims about his influence on the development of the Internet.

[wiffleball 4,789]

Apparently, Gore's using 100% renewable energy, so WTF??

 

My bigger question is WTF do you need all that energy FOR? He's gotta be growing Pot. (organic, of course)

 

 

That would explain a lot...

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Apparently, Gore's using 100% renewable energy, so WTF??

 

My bigger question is WTF do you need all that energy FOR? He's gotta be growing Pot. (organic, of course)

That would explain a lot...

 

From some lefty analysis I've read elsewhere, they claim that for his region of the country and the size of his home, his energy usage is pretty much in the middle (that is his mansion doesn't particularilly use more energy than other mansions). You can read the opinion here and decide for yourself.

 

Also, others are questioning the Tennessee Center for Policy Research's credentials and motives. But they're loony liberals, so I'm sure they're just deluded...

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The right wing is showing an alarming lack of creativity with these latest attempts at mud-slinging.

 

Actions speak louder than words. Gore's actions don't support his argument that he is trying to conserve:

 

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

 

The statement above says a lot more than anything out of Gore's mouth, especially in light of his exaagerated claims about his influence on the development of the Internet.

 

Case in point....

[wiffleball 4,789]

Hypocrisy. Hmm....

 

Is that sorta like when President Bush told us that getting OBL was "job one" and then he admitted later on that he "didn't really care" if they ever get him or not?

 

Or is that just plain lying? Words. They're sure confusing sometimes.

 

'Cause ya know, our President flip-flopping on capturing the guy who killed 3,000+ Americans seems a little worser than a private citizen saying conservation is a good idea.

 

...But that's just me, ya know?

 

 

Maybe it's just a misunderstanding.

 

Ya know, kinda like when Bush said he'd go after & punish any country that spread WMD technology to the "Axis of Evil", then, when we found out Pakistan did that for both NoKo and Iran, he made sure Pakistan recieved more US aid than virtually any other country on the planet.

 

George ain't real bright - and somebody else (lots of 'em) write all his speeches for him. Maybe he just didn't really understand what "punish" meant.

 

'Cause again: Words, They're sure confusing sometimes. He's paid to say 'em, not understand them.

 

Kinda like when Bush called Kerry a flip flopper, but he himself has committed more "flip flops" that cost American lives than anybody else.

 

Maybe he just didn't understand Rove's catchprhase of the week. 'Cause if he did, you know he'd sure feel hypocritical.

 

If he knew what that meant.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

President Bush told us....

 

 

You guys are slipping............it took 29 posts before you figured out it is all Bush's fault Gore is a hypocrit.

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You guys are slipping............it took 29 posts before you figured out it is all Bush's fault Gore is a hypocrit.

And you are a Lying LeMIng.

 

Since we're inventing new spellings for words and all... 

[Strike 5,491]

Case in point....

 

You're so right. The fact that his usage has actually increased since the movie came out is actually a very good indicator of him being an environmentalist

[Flashover 0]

You're so right. The fact that his usage has actually increased since the movie came out is actually a very good indicator of him being an environmentalist

 

Renewable energy costs more, hence the increase. This was talked about earlier in the thread. Also it is important to note that Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson also happened to work for AEI. Remember AEI was the think tank partly funded by Exxon Mobil that offered scientists $10,000 to dispute the Global Warming Findings of like 600+ scientists around the world. Not to mention the multiple connections AEI & the Bush Adminsitration have. So once again a pathetic attempt to smear while ignoring facts. Sad, but what else do the neocons have?....nothing.

[Riddlen 1]

is he family rich or did he make all his money as a politican?

[Vikings4ever 550]

Renewable energy costs more, hence the increase. This was talked about earlier in the thread. Also it is important to note that Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson also happened to work for AEI. Remember AEI was the think tank partly funded by Exxon Mobil that offered scientists $10,000 to dispute the Global Warming Findings of like 600+ scientists around the world. Not to mention the multiple connections AEI & the Bush Adminsitration have. So once again a pathetic attempt to smear while ignoring facts. Sad, but what else do the neocons have?....nothing.

1. The main point of the article wasn't how much money he spends, it's how much energy he uses. 1 kilowatt of coal=1 kilowatt of solar=1 kilowatt of gas=1 kilowatt of wind=1 kilowatt of nuclear, and so on.

 

2. Even in his press release, he doesn't refute that he uses an assload of energy. He just points out he could be using even more.

[SUXBNME 1,497]

Remember AEI was the think tank partly funded by Exxon Mobil that offered scientists $10,000 to dispute the Global Warming Findings of like 600+ scientists around the world.

 

How much money did those 600+ scientists get to distort the facts?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Renewable energy costs more, hence the increase. This was talked about earlier in the thread. Also it is important to note that Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson also happened to work for AEI. Remember AEI was the think tank partly funded by Exxon Mobil that offered scientists $10,000 to dispute the Global Warming Findings of like 600+ scientists around the world. Not to mention the multiple connections AEI & the Bush Adminsitration have. So once again a pathetic attempt to smear while ignoring facts. Sad, but what else do the neocons have?....nothing.

 

Lessee......you smear Drew Johnson and ignore the fact Gore uses 20 times more energy than the avg American (something even Gore doesn't dispute).........Oh the irony.

 

And pathetic.

[Flashover 0]

1. The main point of the article wasn't how much money he spends, it's how much energy he uses. 1 kilowatt of coal=1 kilowatt of solar=1 kilowatt of gas=1 kilowatt of wind=1 kilowatt of nuclear, and so on.

He's using more energy, but that energy happens to be RENEWABLE energy (Wind Energy).

 

While the wind is free, wind farms cost more per kilowatt hour they produce than most fossil fuel plants because the up-front investment in wind turbines still remains high. In addition, wind farms aren’t as heavily subsidized as fossil fuels. That’s what makes our "help build" RECs model so important for the projects we help build – our customers help buy down that up-front cost to a level that the project can get financed and built.

 

http://www.nativeenergy.com/how_works.html

 

 

How much money did those 600+ scientists get to distort the facts?

 

I don't know why don't you break down what every scientist got. Or we can just be ignornt & believe what the handful of "Exxon" scientists believe!

[akaoni 0]

How much money did those 600+ scientists get to distort the facts?

 

Actually most research scientists don't make all that much money. The two PHDs who work in the study I work in both make like 45,000 a year. That's it. Hell, my wife's a nurse and she makes more than they do...of course it's a different story when research scientists work for big corporations with a vested interest in proving a point (i.e. profit). It's well known that scientists for Tobacco companies were paid big salaries to manipulate and falsify data relating to the harmful effects of tobacco. Do you really think that scientists from Exxon, etc are any different? In the peer reviewed scientific community scientists are rewarded for good science with grants to support good science. In corporate research scientists are rewarded for producing results which satisfy the stockholders. Big difference.

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Hey, didn't Al Gore invent the Internet?