Patriots will Go 16-0 and then win the Superbowl.

[bigtuna 0]

No doubt about it.

 

They have sick talent on both sides of the ball and hideous speed at WR and TE.

 

Brady won 3 SB titles with pedestrian talent at WR, now he has 2 guys who run a sub 4.30 time in the forty. Maybe the two fastest guys in the league. a total steal and Moss will be paid half as much as the top picks in this years draft.

 

look for Junior Seau to sign in the month or two as the backup to Bruschi/Vrabel inside...that should complete the roster.

 

16-0 !!!

[triple_f 0]

This is something I cannot debate. I thought NE had done some great things prior to the draft, but now they have solidified their roster. From A. Thomas, Stallworth, Welker, et al...now this weekend...they have to be the favorites looking at the season. As well, they got themselves a 1st rounder next year...

[unclemercy 53]

shall we bet a small fortune?

 

 

i'll give great odds...

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Lets not get carried away. They've got a tough schedule, their offense will need time to gel (Brady's top three targets will be new to the team), and a couple injuries at DB or LB would seriously weaken the defense.

 

But its hard not to get excited.

[mobb_deep 920]

yah the pats are going to be pretty hard to beat. I don't see either Stallworth or Moss being top 5 fantasy WR's in 2007 but Brady will be money. I wouldn't be surprised if Brady finishes with better fantasy numbers than both Manning and Palmer. That being said I think I'm going to stay away from both Stallworth and Moss this year. They'll both get drafted pretty high up and have bust written all over them imo.

[bigtuna 0]

Lets not get carried away. They've got a tough schedule, their offense will need time to gel (Brady's top three targets will be new to the team), and a couple injuries at DB or LB would seriously weaken the defense.

 

But its hard not to get excited.

 

They have a tough schedule? How do you think the other teams are going to feel looking at the Pats on their schedule?

Chalk it up as a loss!

 

 

The toughest game they have is in INDY...and the Pats will have far superior speed on offense this time on the carpet.

 

They will have added since that game in January:

Randy Moss

Wes Welker

Donte Stallworth

Rodney harrison

Eugene Wilson

Randall Gay

Brandon Meriwether

ADALUIS THOMAS

 

 

Think those guys are going to make a difference?????

 

Hell yes!

[unclemercy 53]

2005 fftoday Shula League Champion

2005 Fftoday Big Spenders Champion

2003 fftoday Shula League Champion

2005 Landry League Superbowl finalist

2005 Lombardi League Superbowl finalist

2006 FFtoday Lombardi League Champion

2006 FFtoday Shula League Champion

 

 

that there's a track record... hopefully you're slingin advice throughout the year. i'll listen/am listening.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

They will have added since that game in January:

Randy Moss

Wes Welker

Donte Stallworth

Rodney harrison

Eugene Wilson

Randall Gay

Brandon Meriwether

ADALUIS THOMAS

Think those guys are going to make a difference?????

 

Hell yes!

 

I wouldn't count on Harrison or Wilson doing much. The former is washed up and the latter hasn't done anything meaningful since '04.

 

But then again, with Merriweather on board, hopefully it won't matter.

[JScott 20]

No doubt about it.

 

They have sick talent on both sides of the ball and hideous speed at WR and TE.

 

Brady won 3 SB titles with pedestrian talent at WR, now he has 2 guys who run a sub 4.30 time in the forty. Maybe the two fastest guys in the league. a total steal and Moss will be paid half as much as the top picks in this years draft.

 

look for Junior Seau to sign in the month or two as the backup to Bruschi/Vrabel inside...that should complete the roster.

 

16-0 !!!

Didn't you post that this was the worst draft in Patriots History ... now 16-0

[The Shredder 0]

Geez, this isn't fair for all other teams in the league.

 

Rich is getting richer.

 

Here where you have a team that are loaded at defense and offense with a potentially top 5 at both sides plus, they build well in the draft without sacrifice the future drafts.

 

Bill Belichick is truly a mastermind.

 

I can see NE Patriots go all the way undefeated.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Didn't you post that this was the worst draft in Patriots History ... now 16-0

 

Can you say "manic/depressive"

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Best team on paper by far, but they don't play on paper. Stallworth and Moss have great speed, but neither is ever gonna be confused with the term great route runner. In addition, both have had the injury bug over the past few years.

 

They're one Tom Brady season ending injury away from being an also-ran.

 

Yes, though, right now they're the clear cut favorite.

[unclemercy 53]

 

 

They're one Tom Brady season ending injury away from being an also-ran.

 

 

 

 

c'mon, dude... i don't wanna sound pretentious on a ffbored, but you're better than that

 

no troll, just sayin

[phillybear 366]

Pfft. That's nothing, slapnuts.

 

Seattle will go 18-0, win 5 playoff games, and win 2 Superbowls this year.

[DBZFan2K 0]

The Patriots are the best team on paper right now and could conceivably go undefeated, health permitting. But isn't that usually the big issue with the Pats? How the secondary holds up will be the biggest factor, even more so than the performance of the receivers.

 

I am very, very, VERY excited for the season though, even moreso than when the Pats acquired Dillon a few years ago.

[ROCKET 0]

Somehow I enjoyed last year's preseason a lot more when all we heard is how the Pats would take a step back after losing all their key players and coaches. I don't like being the favs again.

[DBZFan2K 0]

c'mon, dude... i don't wanna sound pretentious on a ffbored, but you're better than that

 

no troll, just sayin

 

Agreed. That's like saying, "One severed vital organ away from being killed." I think it's painfully obvious to everyone that the Patriots need Brady to be healthy to win the Super Bowl, that it goes without saying.

[unclemercy 53]

QUOTE (CantTouchThis @ Mar 6 2005, 04:17 PM)

Man, the Pistons suck....they had a good run though.

 

 

 

what would it take for you to dump that?

[nobody 2,673]

It's not a question of if they will win the Super Bowl this year. It's only a question of how many they will win.

[DBZFan2K 0]

what would it take for you to dump that?

 

Not much. I just thought it was a funny quote at the time, and I pretty much forgot about it after a while. I'll probably just ditch signatures all together.

[JScott 20]

Not much. I just thought it was a funny quote at the time, and I pretty much forgot about it after a while. I'll probably just ditch signatures all together.

You've got to keep the "No longer.... so fock off" part of it though

[surferskin 30]

brady tears his ACL before game 2...the season will be lost.

[JScott 20]

brady tears his ACL before game 2...the season will be lost.

[nobody 2,673]

brady tears his ACL before game 2...the season will be lost.

I have a feeling you could plug alot of qbs in the offense and they would be fine. 16-0 babay!!!!!!!!!!!

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

I agree. 16-0 best team on paper and best team on Sundays.

 

I've said before on this forum that the Brady era would include 8 SuperBowl wins. But after letting one slip away last year I thought Brady might get 7 rings max. Add Randy into the mix and the fact that we have a never ending surplus of draft picks and I can see 3 SuperBowls in the next 4 years from here followed by one last Elway style run in the last 2 years of Brady's career. Do the math, that's 8.

 

I am the biggest Moss basher on this board and even a year ago I didn't like the idea of getting Randy. But for a 4th round pick it's no risk and here's what I really like about the move. Money talks bullshit walks. Mr Moss gave up $6million to play for the Patriots. He renegotiated his contract down 6 MILLION!

 

In my eyes that buys Randy a few "give the dude a chance" points.

[football_scooter 0]

For those Pats homers not paying attention the last few years, Moss sucks.

 

That's Randy Moss, the "Randy Ratio" - terrible attitude, won't go over the middle, takes plays off, lacks conditioning and gets hurt like grapes bruise.

 

Moss has always been better on turf and indoors, so NE in the winter will be entertaining. Especially with a spread offense - boy will Moss be cheery when the tight end goes 7 for 120 and 2 TDs while Moss has 3 for 28 yards. He may even unfurl the 'fro.

 

700/7 at best. Probably hurt by November 5th.

 

I predicted this sort of homerific gaga would happen back when the 1st rumors of Moss to the Pats circulated. Many Pats fans here HATED the thought of getting Moss. Where are they now?

 

Bold prediction: the Pats fan's love affair with Moss is short lived.

[DBZFan2K 0]

I have a feeling you could plug alot of qbs in the offense and they would be fine. 16-0 babay!!!!!!!!!!!

 

God forbid anything happened to Brady...but if it did, you could probably put Matt Cassel in there (who's not a bad QB in his own right) and the Pats would go something like 12-4 with him just because of the weapons available. Let's not forget this defense is a lot better because of the additions of Adalius Thomas and Brandon Meriweather.

[football_scooter 0]

I agree. 16-0 best team on paper and best team on Sundays.

 

I've said before on this forum that the Brady era would include 8 SuperBowl wins. But after letting one slip away last year I thought Brady might get 7 rings max. Add Randy into the mix and the fact that we have a never ending surplus of draft picks and I can see 3 SuperBowls in the next 4 years from here followed by one last Elway style run in the last 2 years of Brady's career. Do the math, that's 8.

 

I am the biggest Moss basher on this board and even a year ago I didn't like the idea of getting Randy. But for a 4th round pick it's no risk and here's what I really like about the move. Money talks bullshit walks. Mr Moss gave up $6million to play for the Patriots. He renegotiated his contract down 6 MILLION!

 

In my eyes that buys Randy a few "give the dude a chance" points.

 

case in point.

 

You were among the Pats fans who was totally against the idea of Moss...now they get him and you suddenly love him. In reality, he's a turd that you're painting in the best possible light.

 

IMO this is a giant step back for the Pats run at another superbowl. Moss doesn't put any team over the top any more ...."past his prime" is a phrase that applies perfectly.

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

Scooter I agree I have been against him 100%. However it really tells me something when a guy is willing to take a 6 million dollar pay cut. Furthermore Brady, Harrison, Coach B, Kraft, Pioli the whole organization was in line with this. I trust those guys. My biggest issue with Randy was always that he takes plays off. If he doesn't take plays off I'm on his side. If he does he'll get shipped out.

 

By the way here is Randy in his own words.

 

“I’ve always considered myself the second best receiver to come out of Marshall. Being able to play with a Troy Brown, and what he’s done for the organization – and I know Troy is not an individual, and I know they don’t live off individuals – but you see what he’s done in the past and his Super Bowl experience, his punt return against the Pittsburgh Steelers. There are things I love in the game that you have to pay attention to. Troy being from Marshall, me being from Marshall, like I’ve always said, he started the trend of guys going into the league from Marshall and I just wanted to continue that but at the same time just enjoy myself and have fun.”

[Franknbeans 46]

[Denny Green] Crown their ass [/Denny Green]

[edjr 6,590]

What if Samuel holds out and demands a trade?

[KSB2424 3,148]

No doubt about it.

 

They have sick talent on both sides of the ball and hideous speed at WR and TE.

 

Brady won 3 SB titles with pedestrian talent at WR, now he has 2 guys who run a sub 4.30 time in the forty. Maybe the two fastest guys in the league. a total steal and Moss will be paid half as much as the top picks in this years draft.

 

look for Junior Seau to sign in the month or two as the backup to Bruschi/Vrabel inside...that should complete the roster.

 

16-0 !!!

 

I totally agree. No way NE loses a game, hell they might not ever trail in a game all season. Might as well cancel the season next year.

[msudavedawg 5]

I'm not sure about 16-0, but for sure Moss and Stallworth give them at least one overated WR every week who will be a game time decision with a strained hamstring.

[nobody 2,673]

Records will fall. Legends will be made. Stories will be told.

[football_scooter 0]

Scooter I agree I have been against him 100%. However it really tells me something when a guy is willing to take a 6 million dollar pay cut. Furthermore Brady, Harrison, Coach B, Kraft, Pioli the whole organization was in line with this. I trust those guys. My biggest issue with Randy was always that he takes plays off. If he doesn't take plays off I'm on his side. If he does he'll get shipped out.

 

I just think that even with all of this being the case, this Randy Moss is not worth the headache. Even if he's a model citizen I don't think it'll be worth it. There's a good reason that no one wanted to pay anything more than a 4th round pick for him.

 

As for him taking the pay cut, you asked what it tells me? It tells me that his skills have diminished significantly enough that even Moss knows he's not worth anywhere near $9mm.

[nobody 2,673]

As far as I can tell the Patriots have only one weakness. And that is that they have no weaknesses.

[DBZFan2K 0]

I totally agree. No way NE loses a game, hell they might not ever trail in a game all season. Might as well cancel the season next year.

 

 

What if Samuel holds out and demands a trade?

 

Then they trade him, put either Randall Gay or Eugene Wilson in his spot, and hope for the best. I don't think it would be the end of the world quite honestly, but obviously they're in better shape if they have Samuel in there.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

case in point.

 

You were among the Pats fans who was totally against the idea of Moss...now they get him and you suddenly love him. In reality, he's a turd that you're painting in the best possible light.

 

IMO this is a giant step back for the Pats run at another superbowl. Moss doesn't put any team over the top any more ...."past his prime" is a phrase that applies perfectly.

 

If cooter thinks its a bad idea, then we know that Belioli have struck PURE GOLD!!!

 

Then they trade him, put either Randall Gay or Eugene Wilson in his spot, and hope for the best. I don't think it would be the end of the world quite honestly, but obviously they're in better shape if they have Samuel in there.

 

I think the fact that they didn't take a CB in the first four rounds bodes well for the Samuel situation, but then again, they did sign Tory James.

[t.j 35]

No doubt about it.

 

...

 

16-0 !!!

 

I love to see posts like this.

[football_scooter 0]

If cooter thinks its a bad idea, then we know that Belioli have struck PURE GOLD!!!

 

wow - with logic like that put forth to dispute my contentions, who could argue?

 

I invite your counterpoint - please explain why Moss puts the Pats over the top. I'm all ears. Or you could just sit there in your mother's basement hurling insults like an ignorant turd instead - your choice.