ShaneFalco 0 Posted June 1, 2007 I'm okay with it don't think clash would have a problem with it either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 1, 2007 speaking of titans, how do we feel about drafting someone with the initials VY and getting on with the show? We can always let him change the pick with whoever is still available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShaneFalco 0 Posted June 1, 2007 looks like clash is back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted June 1, 2007 Let's see if we can make it to my picks tonight so I don't have to send a list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 1, 2007 santana's a good pick. hes another of the WRs i was talking about before. i think campbell will do well with washington and they are going to be a solid team this year. moss wont be like he was two years ago, but he should be a good WR3 and good 6th round value if he goes that late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 1, 2007 Thank you Tessa ( I think). You have just improved the whole board with your presence! I'm okay with it don't think clash would have a problem with it either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 1, 2007 I wanted Moss I thought I saw sparks and heard grinding. Grease it! I was hoping to land Fred around the corner, and take Chambers here. I'm glad he went before my pick so I won't kick myself for wanting him in this round. If that made sense? Chambers..........what an enigma. Sick vitals, but the lack of a good Qb has killed him. I know he drops some easy ones, but he hauls in some trash too. I was happy to snag him here and had him earmarked as my #2 Wr. for quite some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 1, 2007 chambers is the guy i was absolutely shocked was still there at my 6.4. the thing is, im apparently one of the many of the rest of you that just doesnt think he can produce much in that situation. what a mess. i mean i think he'll do alright, but its time to stop pretending what he might be and just accept what he is. and thats guy who gets 8-900 yards with 7-10 TDs. hes basically had one good half a season in his career. but so much talent, an enigma indeed. hes a guy id draft, stash on my bench, wait til he accidentally has 2 good games in a row, and then cash in. fred taylor is a great pickup. he was far and away the best back left on the board as far as sure numbers, and he makes a real nice RB3. i think hes still going to get 1200 yards this year, and i still think hes the primary ball carrier. thats why i just couldnt believe the mdj pick in the 2nd round. can you base all that on just TDs? i cant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 1, 2007 chambers is the guy i was absolutely shocked was still there at my 6.4. the thing is, im apparently one of the many of the rest of you that just doesnt think he can produce much in that situation. what a mess. i mean i think he'll do alright, but its time to stop pretending what he might be and just accept what he is. and thats guy who gets 8-900 yards with 7-10 TDs. hes basically had one good half a season in his career. but so much talent, an enigma indeed. hes a guy id draft, stash on my bench, wait til he accidentally has 2 good games in a row, and then cash in. fred taylor is a great pickup. he was far and away the best back left on the board as far as sure numbers, and he makes a real nice RB3. i think hes still going to get 1200 yards this year, and i still think hes the primary ball carrier. thats why i just couldnt believe the mdj pick in the 2nd round. can you base all that on just TDs? i cant. You seem to be in the vast minority on your feelings in regards to MJD. You and Miller, for the rest of the fantasy world thinks 16 tds accounts for something. You can continue to take your little swipes, but it was a superior pick to both your Portis, and your Julius picks. IMHO In case any of you missed it..........there was an unpossible cameo by Travis Henry at the Main Board!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis Henry 1 Posted June 1, 2007 In case any of you missed it..........there was an unpossible cameo by Travis Henry at the Main Board!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 1, 2007 so you would rather have mjd than portis, straight up? how high exactly would you be happy taking him? and where did i ever say 16 TDs was nothing? i just dont think mjd is a guy id want to count on as the 2nd best player on my team. i was still utterly shocked to see him in the 2nd round. i realize now that hes going to go there or at least in the early 2nd. i just dont buy it. i'll be happy to watch him take up a valuable early pick spot that could be any number of superstar WRs that are guaranteed hits, among other good players. i genuinely thought taylor was a good pick. maybe you think his almost 1300 yards last year was nothing. i dont. i expect more of the same, with taylor getting more yards but not a lot of TDs, and mjd being a little bit of everything with a good sprinkling of TDs. anyway i didnt mean it was a rip on your mjd pick, i think taylor would be a good RB3 period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 1, 2007 so you would rather have mjd than portis, straight up? how high exactly would you be happy taking him? and where did i ever say 16 TDs was nothing? i just dont think mjd is a guy id want to count on as the 2nd best player on my team. i was still utterly shocked to see him in the 2nd round. i realize now that hes going to go there or at least in the early 2nd. i just dont buy it. i'll be happy to watch him take up a valuable early pick spot that could be any number of superstar WRs that are guaranteed hits, among other good players. i genuinely thought taylor was a good pick. maybe you think his almost 1300 yards last year was nothing. i dont. i expect more of the same, with taylor getting more yards but not a lot of TDs, and mjd being a little bit of everything with a good sprinkling of TDs. anyway i didnt mean it was a rip on your mjd pick, i think taylor would be a good RB3 period. I asked you back in round 2 to explain your thoughts on Betts and Portis, as I questioned why you were high on him. I agreed on Edge. You didn't hear me puke over it like you did on the MJD pick. You also didn't bother to answer it. I tried later to get the same info from you. Still no response. You have no tact, and you simply avoid answering some things. Betts earned touches this year, with his performance last season. Don't you think that will affect Portis?? The fact that barber got all the important stuff last season, though jones was the figure head starter?????? How does that play out this year?? I definitly have MJD rated higher than Portis, which is why I questioned you right away on it. Straight up??? You bet!!! That is what makes your pick even more questionable to me. You took Portis earlier?? This is all about opinions, and the sharing of it. You are always the only one I don't think gets that. I want your opinions, and respect them. i don't like the pompous A$$ routine though. I'm not asking for sugar coating, just good discussions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller_Time_21 0 Posted June 1, 2007 chambers is the guy i was absolutely shocked was still there at my 6.4. the thing is, im apparently one of the many of the rest of you that just doesnt think he can produce much in that situation. what a mess. i mean i think he'll do alright, but its time to stop pretending what he might be and just accept what he is. and thats guy who gets 8-900 yards with 7-10 TDs. hes basically had one good half a season in his career. but so much talent, an enigma indeed. hes a guy id draft, stash on my bench, wait til he accidentally has 2 good games in a row, and then cash in. fred taylor is a great pickup. he was far and away the best back left on the board as far as sure numbers, and he makes a real nice RB3. i think hes still going to get 1200 yards this year, and i still think hes the primary ball carrier. thats why i just couldnt believe the mdj pick in the 2nd round. can you base all that on just TDs? i cant. I agree on Chambers, I just couldn't bring myself to pick him. Taylor and Dunn were who my decision came down to, to be honest I really have no preference. I expect about 1100 yds and a low TD number from both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 1, 2007 rc, i dont want to get in an agrument with you. ive tried to be extra careful with how i say things this year and am happy with what ive said. i talked about portis and my expectations for him awhile back in one of the threads, so you can see what i think there. i just think theres a ton of history that says hes going to be a good to great RB as long as hes healthy, which i will assume at this point. hes a guy i would expect will normally go in the late 1st round. i was wondering how high you would have mjd in your rankings. portis would be in my top 10 RBs. if i didnt take rudi at 1.9, it wouldve been edge or portis. thats what i think of him. for both portis and jones, i made longer posts awhile back so you can read that there if you like. sorry if what i said was offensive, didnt mean it that way. will leave it at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 1, 2007 rc, i dont want to get in an agrument with you. ive tried to be extra careful with how i say things this year and am happy with what ive said. i talked about portis and my expectations for him awhile back in one of the threads, so you can see what i think there. i just think theres a ton of history that says hes going to be a good to great RB as long as hes healthy, which i will assume at this point. hes a guy i would expect will normally go in the late 1st round. i was wondering how high you would have mjd in your rankings. portis would be in my top 10 RBs. if i didnt take rudi at 1.9, it wouldve been edge or portis. thats what i think of him. for both portis and jones, i made longer posts awhile back so you can read that there if you like. sorry if what i said was offensive, didnt mean it that way. will leave it at that. yuck, ugh, sick was extra careful???? I guess Betts is kicked back to the bench. Okay, thanks for the input! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 1, 2007 my most condensed portis thoughts: portis and as for julius: jones and sorry about the ugh, sick remarks. it was meant about mjd. hes not a player i care for that high, as is obvious by now. now please stop trying to pick a fight with me, im not interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 543 Posted June 1, 2007 I know the Kitna pick will draw a TON of criticism from this bunch, but that wasn't my target. I had targeted Chambers, Branch, Moss, Edwards. or Clayton for this pick.....all of whom were just taken. I don't like any of the WRs here at all, so I did what I sometimes like to do....solidify my QB position with a high reward guy that I can plug in during a really good matchup. It's what I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 1, 2007 In round 5 the Qb crop was kind of written off after Bulger. I have Kitna above Bulger and McNabb and like the value you got. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted June 1, 2007 I know the Kitna pick will draw a TON of criticism from this bunch, but that wasn't my target. I had targeted Chambers, Branch, Moss, Edwards. or Clayton for this pick.....all of whom were just taken. I don't like any of the WRs here at all, so I did what I sometimes like to do....solidify my QB position with a high reward guy that I can plug in during a really good matchup. It's what I do. Getting your backup QB in round 6 is , IMHO, but if there's anything you've shown in past mocks, it's the tendency to grab value, no matter what your teams needs are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kitsnow 0 Posted June 1, 2007 At this point I think crumpler or winslow would have been a better choice than Kitna might have been there in the 7th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedanzone 2 Posted June 1, 2007 I think Galloway is a good value pick at this point. He was top 15 last year and should be at least top 20. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 1, 2007 galloway is a great pick right there. he shouldve been gone by now, and he was clearly my top WR on the board. if branch was gone, i mightve taken galloway there. i expect another 1150/7 sort of year from him. the kitna pick doesnt catch me too off guard either. he had a huge year stats wise last year, and they just added calvin johnson and tatum bell to the mix. the upside is clear. i still dont agree with 2 QBs in the first six rounds... no matter how good kitna's matchup is, i just dont know when youre going to bench palmer for him. that said, kitna was about even with my next 4 availble QBs and probably the best upside of any of them, so its a good value spot there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted June 1, 2007 The Crotch came out of nowhere last year, and had a pretty good season. Give him a year of starting experience, and a good running game, and I think he can build on last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted June 1, 2007 Nice pick with Edwards. Bomb...he's another one this year to fit criteria for a breakout year. I'll let you look at his stats and decide if he was consistent/deep threat/preferred mauve or fuschia coloring. My concern with Edwards is his unstable QB situation. White...jeez, this guy is quite the role model huh? Umm, he's a starting RB? Solid picks with Moss/Galloway. Great pick with Taylor...the forgotten man, who has found a nich sharing the load. Crotchery...umm, he's a starting RB? Kitna...what V4E said fumble. You're about value regardless of your team make up and why I'd hate to draft with you with real bullets flying. Unpredictable. Actually like pick alot considering what else was there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 1, 2007 ive always really liked braylon edwards and thought hed be good, i remember how badly i wanted minnesota to draft him. the problem is just who is going to throw him the ball?? looking at his stats, he only hit 100 yards three times last year and those were games when he caught passes of 58, 63, and 75 yards. otherwise 8 of his 16 games had him under 50 yards, often significantly, and that would certainly have to change to even make him very playable as a WR3. on the other hand i also noticed that he had a TD in 5 of his last 9 games. in november and december his ppg were 13, 9, 13, 2, 9, 14, 12, 0, 4. that looks like solid WR2-3 sort of numbers. interesting guy to keep an eye on. i just dont know that i could pass on guys like branch or galloway for him, and i cant imagine him lasting longer than the 6th normally. theres been a handful of WRs i like this round though, being the 6th. i could definitely see myself swapping like a 3/4 for a 2/6 with someone so that my 3/4 would turn into a RB like edge or portis and then another of these WRs (instead of a 4th round WR). that sounds pretty tasty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 1, 2007 Edwards is just one of those guys that I sometimes wonder if he gets it?? All the potential in the world, but always shooting himself in the foot by missing practice. This is compounded by the fact that he is on a lousy offense. Don't get me wrong, I realize Chambers isn't on a juggernaut offense, but he has put in his time, and he does put out solid effort every season. The one thing that Edwards does have going for him is that he hasn't busted out yet. My concern is will he?? I am really interested in checking out NAn's previous and current list of canidates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 543 Posted June 1, 2007 Edwards is just one of those guys that I sometimes wonder if he gets it?? All the potential in the world, but always shooting himself in the foot by missing practice. This is compounded by the fact that he is on a lousy offense. Don't get me wrong, I realize Chambers isn't on a juggernaut offense, but he has put in his time, and he does put out solid effort every season. The one thing that Edwards does have going for him is that he hasn't busted out yet. My concern is will he?? I am really interested in checking out NAn's previous and current list of canidates. He just donated $1 million to some charity, I believe. I thought that was pretty cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 1, 2007 He just donated $1 million to some charity, I believe. I thought that was pretty cool. That is cool. I just hear more about his off field stuff then any of his on field stuff. I don't gig the pick at all. He just doesn't do it for me, much like Chambers affect on some drafters. (by off field stuff, I'm not talking legal. Just stuff like missed practices and doghouse chatter) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites