Lionsjunkie 1 Posted July 7, 2007 Genesis performing right now Phil Collins = John Locke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted July 7, 2007 I'd rather watch a joneo link than that exercise in hypocracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted July 7, 2007 How much fuel was used in flying all those private jets over? how much energy wasted? how much garbage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavy-set 39 Posted July 7, 2007 iam watching from your moms bedroom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 7, 2007 How much fuel was used in flying all those private jets over? how much energy wasted? how much garbage? Here ya go: http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=276527 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CurlyNight's Ghost 0 Posted July 8, 2007 I flip back and forth. If I see a band I like I'll watch. Shakira is shaking it now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
congressmanreality 1 Posted July 8, 2007 Seriously, can we agree that if you actually like Dave Matthews, you might as well shoot yourself in the face? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparkling Wiggles 0 Posted July 8, 2007 How much fuel was used in flying all those private jets over? how much energy wasted? how much garbage? What is your point, here? That rock stars flew in private jets and it took fuel for them to get to the show? That people created garbage that they would have created during their daily lives, anyway? Is this really what the right wing stance about the environment is? Are you that much against eco-friendliness that you're going to bring up asinine nonsense that really has nothing to do with the topic at hand? All these people are trying to say is that we should take care of our environment. Do you want to trash the world for anyone and everyone that inhabits this planet after you're gone? Is that your message? I mean, seriously. That's how you're coming off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted July 8, 2007 conservatives have no heart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparkling Wiggles 0 Posted July 8, 2007 conservatives have no heart I don't think that at all. But it seems that there are some people that get defensive any time you say the word environment. Look at the definition of conservative. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conservative 1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change. Shouldn't protecting the environment be a fundemental belief of true conservatives? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill E. 703 Posted July 8, 2007 I don't think that at all. But it seems that there are some people that get defensive any time you say the word environment. Look at the definition of conservative. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conservative Shouldn't protecting the environment be a fundemental belief of true conservatives? I am more of an independent / libertarian (social lib/fiscal con) so I can not speak for true conservatives. I think the far left has hijacked the issue. When they talk environmentalism, they use the time to trash conservatives and advance the rest of their agenda. That puts cons on the defensive. Libs preach conservation as the solution to our energy problems but conservation, wind and solar will not even get us close to where we need to be. We need to exploit our own oil reserves and follow the lead of nations like France and embrace nuclear power. So while you might point out that conservatives do not conserve, you can add that progressives are against true progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted July 8, 2007 I'd rather watch a joneo link than that exercise in hypocracy. How much fuel was used in flying all those private jets over? how much energy wasted? how much garbage? Asked by jets24....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyTom 0 Posted July 8, 2007 Wow...seeing these bands perform make me want to save the Earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted July 8, 2007 Asked by jets24....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CurlyNight's Ghost 0 Posted July 8, 2007 Wow...hearing the information between the bands performance makes me want to save the Earth. Good for you!@#@! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TylerRoseFan 16 Posted July 8, 2007 I didn't even know what it was until yesterday. Had no reason to watch it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pimptastic69 0 Posted July 8, 2007 What the hell is the point of all this? Seems like an Al Gore love-fest to me. Who isn't aware of GW and environmentalism? Anyone that can actually watch it already knows this crap. Why don't these focks instead fly their planes to Africa and tell the Africans that having sex with virgins does not, in fact, make said virgin immune to the aids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lionsjunkie 1 Posted July 8, 2007 Love her or hate her....she can definetly entertain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97TAXbAjn48...amp;t=t&f=b Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lionsjunkie 1 Posted July 8, 2007 The Foo Fighters stole the show though.... Awesome performance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEDOdIQLeZU...ted&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6yf2iWeXSM&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmZxjA5MIx0...ted&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F6BZHZyGEw...ted&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJSE4Lt0yNI...ted&search= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparkling Wiggles 0 Posted July 8, 2007 I am more of an independent / libertarian (social lib/fiscal con) so I can not speak for true conservatives. I think the far left has hijacked the issue. When they talk environmentalism, they use the time to trash conservatives and advance the rest of their agenda. That puts cons on the defensive. Libs preach conservation as the solution to our energy problems but conservation, wind and solar will not even get us close to where we need to be. We need to exploit our own oil reserves and follow the lead of nations like France and embrace nuclear power. So while you might point out that conservatives do not conserve, you can add that progressives are against true progress. Partially agree with your first points. But it just seems to me any time you mention anything environmental, the guys here that take the right on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE start talking nonsense. Like, "How much jet fuel was used getting the bands there?" I saw the same crap on Fox and Friends this morning. Maybe libs hijack the issue because the cons let them. I know there is a big movement in churches to start making the environment a priority. http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article8024.asp http://www.episcopal-life.org/26769_62397_ENG_HTM.htm I consider myself social lib/fiscal con as you do, but I certainly applaud the churches for getting in on the act. Libs don't have to own the issue. It can be something everyone cares about (like taxes, terrorism, etc.). It just sickens me to see people any time the environment is mentioned. Like it's their goal to trash the world or something. As far as your second point goes, I agree we need to embrace nuclear power, but it's not the only answer. I just saw Who Killed the Electric Car? last weekend. It was an eye-opener, for sure. We need to find alternatives for energy. Our government is failing us in that aspect. There's no question about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lionsjunkie 1 Posted July 8, 2007 How much fuel was used in flying all those private jets over? how much energy wasted? how much garbage? Concerts and festivals happen everyday throughout N.A...and most likely the rest of teh world. Why is it that some people can find negativity in an actual good cause Never been to a concert jets24 You think your band rolled into the Big Apple on two feet. Summerfest, Bonnaroo, Lollapalooza and a whole lot of these mega-concerts happen each and every year, stop hating.....at least this concert has a purpose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted July 8, 2007 Partially agree with your first points. But it just seems to me any time you mention anything environmental, the guys here that take the right on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE start talking nonsense. Like, "How much jet fuel was used getting the bands there?" I saw the same crap on Fox and Friends this morning. Maybe libs hijack the issue because the cons let them. I know there is a big movement in churches to start making the environment a priority. http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article8024.asp http://www.episcopal-life.org/26769_62397_ENG_HTM.htm I consider myself social lib/fiscal con as you do, but I certainly applaud the churches for getting in on the act. Libs don't have to own the issue. It can be something everyone cares about (like taxes, terrorism, etc.). It just sickens me to see people any time the environment is mentioned. Like it's their goal to trash the world or something. As far as your second point goes, I agree we need to embrace nuclear power, but it's not the only answer. I just saw Who Killed the Electric Car? last weekend. It was an eye-opener, for sure. We need to find alternatives for energy. Our government is failing us in that aspect. There's no question about it. The point is...we don't need a rock concert to tell us how to save the environment. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparkling Wiggles 0 Posted July 8, 2007 The point is...we don't need a rock concert to tell us how to save the environment. HTH So what are your proposals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted July 8, 2007 Concerts and festivals happen everyday throughout N.A...and most likely the rest of teh world. Why is it that some people can find negativity in an actual good cause Never been to a concert jets24 You think your band rolled into the Big Apple on two feet. Summerfest, Bonnaroo, Lollapalooza and a whole lot of these mega-concerts happen each and every year, stop hating.....at least this concert has a purpose Those concerts are about entertainment, nothing more, nothing less, and they don't pretend to be about anything else. This concert was about educating and conservation-unless you're some ego bloated celebritiy who requires private jets, limos, and who knows what other kinds of amnities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 8, 2007 Like it's their goal to trash the world or something. Shhhhhhh!!! Despite these celebutards having a carbon footprint 10-20 times larger than the avg human, they get together one day every 10-12 years or so to preach to the rest of us how we should live. Gotta give them credit for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boz/BoFan 0 Posted July 8, 2007 http://www.vaniercollege.qc.ca/Auxiliary/P.../Thirdwave.html is global warming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted July 8, 2007 So what are your proposals? Will you marry me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 8, 2007 Love her or hate her....she can definetly entertain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97TAXbAjn48...amp;t=t&f=b ive always loved her... still 1 of my fave concerts ever was seeing her in a steady rain in wisc back in the 80s..she is great when it comes to concerts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparkling Wiggles 0 Posted July 8, 2007 Will you marry me? That's what I thought. Slam anybody that wants to make the environment a topic but have nothing to bring to the table, like usual. Thanks for playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted July 9, 2007 People are having a concert for a cause I don't believe in!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 9, 2007 Celebrities are for the most part vain, pompous, self aggrandizing, festering zit sucking leeches on the buttocks of life. Their opinions stink. All of them. Just do whatever you do that makes you famous and shut the fock up, stupid. That's one of the reasons Team America: World Police was a very good movie. Every focking celebrity dies. And that's not to say that only liberal butt munching celebrities are evil. But the conservative celebrities by comparison have a good taste to keep a low profile, thankfully. So I despise them much less. I channel surfed a bit. The music pretty much sucked whenever I tuned in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 9, 2007 Shhhhhhh!!! Despite these celebutards having a carbon footprint 10-20 times larger than the avg human, they get together one day every 10-12 years or so to preach to the rest of us how we should live. Gotta give them credit for that. So the ones who decided not to perform are the real heroes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 9, 2007 So the ones who decided not to perform are the real heroes? Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 9, 2007 How should the bands have gotten to the venue? Roller skates? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indybearsfan 0 Posted July 9, 2007 Seriously, can we agree that if you actually like Dave Matthews, you might as well shoot yourself in the face? i actually like dave mathews and it says so on my myspace page. yes that is the gayest thing ever written, but sadly true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 9, 2007 How should the bands have gotten to the venue? Roller skates? They should have stopped the concert. What a focking waste over a trivial issue. Hell, raise money for something useful. Like finding a cure for gout. Or the Defense Team of Al Gore's son. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 9, 2007 They should have stopped the concert. What a focking waste over a trivial issue. Hell, raise money for something useful. Like finding a cure for gout. Or the Defense Team of Al Gore's son. Also, the cure for gout is to get some focking exercise, lose weight and eat healthy food, fatty HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
