Yankees have officially become HOT!

[jets24 6]

 

 

Did I mention that both homers came in the 7th inning?

 

The first tied the game at 2, the second put them ahead 9-2.

 

134 RBI's as of September 5th.

 

Woooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

[TommyGavin 790]

Enjoy it now Chad Pennington, enjoy it now.

[jets24 6]

Enjoy it now Chad Pennington, enjoy it now.

 

So, you don't like the Yankees or you just hate the Jets? Or...are you just drunk again?

[smashmouths@blf 33]

Hot? No...not really. .500 homestand.

[The Hood 9]

 

 

Did I mention that both homers came in the 7th inning?

 

The first tied the game at 2, the second put them ahead 9-2.

 

134 RBI's as of September 5th.

 

Woooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

3 game lead for the wildcard.

[TommyGavin 790]

So, you don't like the Yankees or you just hate the Jets? Or...are you just drunk again?

 

Big Blue Red Sox Islander fan. You are dead to me.

 

[Big Blue 06 195]

Hot? No...not really. .500 homestand.

 

Maybe not hot. However, they lead the wild card by 3 games, which is good enough for me.

[Me_2006 14]

As much as I hate the Yankees, Alex Rodriquez is the best baseball player of all time. Seriously.

 

At least most talented, you could make the argument for his mental make-up and stuff, and that's a fair argument, but even with all the legendary players I've seen tapes of and stuff, I think A-rod has more talent than any of them.

 

Griffey and Bonds could make a strong case, but I just think that to already be in the conversation and barely be 30, is remarkable.

 

Can't stand him, but I've got to give credit where it's due. Sorta like with Jeter and Mo. Can't stand the Yankees, but much respect for those guys.

[Big Blue 06 195]

With every home run that A-Rod hit, his price tag goes up that much more this offseason.

 

That said, I hope he hits 50 more this year.

[TommyGavin 790]

think he can get to Yankee record of 61 with 22 games to go ?

 

?

[NewbieJr 541]

As much as I hate the Yankees, Alex Rodriquez is the best baseball player of all time. Seriously.

The incredible thing is, he's only thirty, and there's almost no way anyone can argue your statement. He's going to shatter nearly every record in the book.

He's also the best shortstop in baseball, and he doesn't even play there.

 

It's mind boggling. One day, we'll look back and brag to our grandkids that we remember when he played.

[mighty_thor 115]

As much as I hate the Yankees, Alex Rodriquez is the best baseball player of all time. Seriously.

 

At least most talented, you could make the argument for his mental make-up and stuff, and that's a fair argument, but even with all the legendary players I've seen tapes of and stuff, I think A-rod has more talent than any of them.

 

Griffey and Bonds could make a strong case, but I just think that to already be in the conversation and barely be 30, is remarkable.

 

Can't stand him, but I've got to give credit where it's due. Sorta like with Jeter and Mo. Can't stand the Yankees, but much respect for those guys.

 

I'd rather face ARod than Jeter in a clutch situation.

[NewbieJr 541]

I'd rather face ARod than Jeter in a clutch situation.

Although his reputation as not being a clutch player is well deserved, he's come through in a lot of big spots, this year. That is the only piece of the puzzle for him. If he ever has a huge playoff run, it will seal his fate as the best ever.

It's kind of like Peyton Manning. Every already knew he was the best QB ever, but he never seemed to win the big one, so detractors could always bring that up. Now that he's won a Super Bowl, he's cemented his place as football's all-time best. He didn't become a better player last February. He just eliminated the one thing that made him the unanimous choice.

Same goes for ARod. Everyone knows he's the best, but the haters need something to hold on to.

[mighty_thor 115]

Although his reputation as not being a clutch player is well deserved, he's come through in a lot of big spots, this year. That is the only piece of the puzzle for him. If he ever has a huge playoff run, it will seal his fate as the best ever.

It's kind of like Peyton Manning. Every already knew he was the best QB ever, but he never seemed to win the big one, so detractors could always bring that up. Now that he's won a Super Bowl, he's cemented his place as football's all-time best. He didn't become a better player last February. He just eliminated the one thing that made him the unanimous choice.

Same goes for ARod. Everyone knows he's the best, but the haters need something to hold on to.

 

I am a Bosox fan who was also giving a compliment to Jeter who ALWAYS seems to come through in the clutch. In the last crucial series with the Red Sox that the Yanks swept, Jeter batted .636 while ARod batted .222.

[NewbieJr 541]

I am a Bosox fan who was also giving a compliment to Jeter who ALWAYS seems to come through in the clutch. In the last crucial series with the Red Sox that the Yanks swept, Jeter batted .636 while ARod batted .222.

I agree. Jeter is one of baseball's best clutch players.

[edjr 6,598]

I am a Bosox fan who was also giving a compliment to Jeter who ALWAYS seems to come through in the clutch. In the last crucial series with the Red Sox that the Yanks swept, Jeter batted .636 while ARod batted .222.

 

Yeah and remember that line drive Jeter hit, that Trot Nixon misplayed in the 04 playoffs in the Pedro/Grady Little debacle?

[CantTouchThis 23]

Maggs is having the better season.....

 

 

HTH.

[NewbieJr 541]

Maggs is having the better season.....

HTH.

Not even close. Average is the only advantage Maggs has over ARod.

 

In any other season, Maggs would be the frontrunner, But ARods monumental season has made Ordonez an afterthought.

[CantTouchThis 23]

Not even close. Average is the only advantage Maggs has over ARod.

 

In any other season, Maggs would be the frontrunner, But ARods monumental season has made Ordonez an afterthought.

 

Mags has just 14 less RBIs than AROD...and that is higher than usual, usually it's only by 5-8 RBIs, plus a better OBP and Maggs has like a rediculous amount of doubles. Also, he is killing him in average by over .04. However, unless Detroit makes a run and gets in the playoffs, Arod will get the MVP. However, people who say it's not even close don't know what their talking about. A lot more HRs, but, only a bit more RBIs and a much lesser average than Maggs.

[torridjoe 48]

"Alex Rodriquez is the best baseball player of all time. Seriously. "

 

When ARod throws 29 /23 consecutive scoreless innings in World Series competition, you let me know and we'll talk about who's best. When ARod hits as many HR by himself as most teams in a year, let me know.

 

ARod is the best player active now, perhaps the best of his era (still have to give that one to Bonds). But it will take some doing to knock Ruth off the all-time perch.

[NewbieJr 541]

Mags has just 14 less RBIs than AROD...and that is higher than usual, usually it's only by 5-8 RBIs, plus a better OBP and Maggs has like a rediculous amount of doubles. Also, he is killing him in average by over .04. However, unless Detroit makes a run and gets in the playoffs, Arod will get the MVP. However, people who say it's not even close don't know what their talking about. A lot more HRs, but, only a bit more RBIs and a much lesser average than Maggs.

Maggs is having a great year.

Problem is, when ARod is finished, he will have had one of the top seasons in baseball history. Dude is projected to finish with a .312 average with 56 home runs and 155 RBIs. Oh yeah, and 147 runs.He is first in the league in home runs, RBIs, runs, OPS, and Slugging Percentage. Oh, and just for the hell of it, he's eighth in stolen bases.

 

Whether the Yankees make the playoffs or not, you can't have one of baseballs top-ten all-time season and not win that year's MVP. His 2007 season would win MVP of the 2000's.

[Snuff 10]

"Alex Rodriquez is the best baseball player of all time. Seriously. "

 

When ARod throws 29 /23 consecutive scoreless innings in World Series competition, you let me know and we'll talk about who's best. When ARod hits as many HR by himself as most teams in a year, let me know.

 

ARod is the best player active now, perhaps the best of his era (still have to give that one to Bonds). But it will take some doing to knock Ruth off the all-time perch.

 

[torridjoe 48]

As for MVP, ARod is clearly having the better season--higher OPS, more XBH, plays a tougher defensive position...but the real difference is his 22 steals and 92% success rate.

 

However, my vote for AL MVP would go to Jorge Posada. 11th in the majors in OPS, 1st among catchers by almost 100 points, and the most innings behind the dish in the league. Plus he's handled what, 18 different starting pitchers this year?

[Me_2006 14]

"Alex Rodriquez is the best baseball player of all time. Seriously. "

 

When ARod throws 29 /23 consecutive scoreless innings in World Series competition, you let me know and we'll talk about who's best. When ARod hits as many HR by himself as most teams in a year, let me know.

 

ARod is the best player active now, perhaps the best of his era (still have to give that one to Bonds). But it will take some doing to knock Ruth off the all-time perch.

 

and James Naismith is the best basketball player ever. Dude, it's not even close. It's easy to say some dude who played against other middle-aged, fat, white dudes is the best of all time, but honestly, it's just a cop-out. Would you take Cy Young over Roger Clemens just because he has more wins, dominated 100 years ago, pitched every day at like 70 mph and struck out a bunch of guys who went to bat without helmets or even taking the bat off their shoulder?

[torridjoe 48]

and James Naismith is the best basketball player ever. Dude, it's not even close. It's easy to say some dude who played against other middle-aged, fat, white dudes is the best of all time, but honestly, it's just a cop-out. Would you take Cy Young over Roger Clemens just because he has more wins, dominated 100 years ago, pitched every day at like 70 mph and struck out a bunch of guys who went to bat without helmets or even taking the bat off their shoulder?

 

Lotta pitchers did what Young did, or at least that was the norm--to go long innings, etc.

 

Cy Young's career ERA--38% better than lg avg.

Clemens' career ERA--43% better than lg avg.

 

I take Clemens because he was better.

[Me_2006 14]

Lotta pitchers did what Young did, or at least that was the norm--to go long innings, etc.

 

Cy Young's career ERA--38% better than lg avg.

Clemens' career ERA--43% better than lg avg.

 

I take Clemens because he was better.

 

and A-rod is better than Ruth. Mays was better than Ruth. Bonds is better than Ruth.

 

How can you look at Babe Ruth and think that's the best baseball player of all time? He wasn't a good baseball player. He was a hitter who was superior to anyone he played with that had that swagger and lifestyle that made him a legend. Ever seen him make a play in the field? How many homeruns did he have at 30? Were pitchers throwing 100 and playing lefty/righty matchups and putting the shift on and watching tape and analyzing swings and pitches and everything back then? Put A-rod in that era and he hits 1000 HRs before the age of 30. Seriously. It's not comparable. Think Bob Petit could guard Shaq? He dominated the early days of basketball the way the Babe did with baseball.

[CantTouchThis 23]

one of baseballs top-ten all-time season

 

 

No, not even close. Best season since Bond's 73 Hr season, and maybe another Bonds season or two, but, no where close to the top 10 of all time. Great season, but, Ruth averaged about what Arod is doing this season, with a better avg among other things.

[torridjoe 48]

and A-rod is better than Ruth. Mays was better than Ruth. Bonds is better than Ruth.

 

How can you look at Babe Ruth and think that's the best baseball player of all time? He wasn't a good baseball player. He was a hitter who was superior to anyone he played with that had that swagger and lifestyle that made him a legend. Ever seen him make a play in the field? How many homeruns did he have at 30? Were pitchers throwing 100 and playing lefty/righty matchups and putting the shift on and watching tape and analyzing swings and pitches and everything back then? Put A-rod in that era and he hits 1000 HRs before the age of 30. Seriously. It's not comparable. Think Bob Petit could guard Shaq? He dominated the early days of basketball the way the Babe did with baseball.

 

There's no doubt whatsoever that Ruth was the best hitter in history. Add in the fact that he could have ALSO been a hall of fame pitcher, and there's no rational argument that makes someone else a better player.

 

Until ARod learns to pitch, there's simply no contest.

 

Ruth's era-neutral OPS--1.136

ARod's era-neutral OPS--.943

 

and ARod hasn't even had his chance to decline yet. It's not even close, dude.

 

Nobody on this board knows more baseball than posty. I guarantee you posty does not pick ARod over Ruth.

[Me_2006 14]

There's no doubt whatsoever that Ruth was the best hitter in history. Add in the fact that he could have ALSO been a hall of fame pitcher, and there's no rational argument that makes someone else a better player.

 

Until ARod learns to pitch, there's simply no contest.

 

Ruth's era-neutral OPS--1.136

ARod's era-neutral OPS--.943

 

and ARod hasn't even had his chance to decline yet. It's not even close, dude.

 

Nobody on this board knows more baseball than posty. I guarantee you posty does not pick ARod over Ruth.

My point is that you can't compare the two eras. There are TONS of guys who, had they played when Ruth did, against the players Ruth did, would have put up superior numbers to Ruth. He's a product of his era. The game isn't the same now. Jose Reyes would have scored 4000 runs a season then. Think anyone could pick him off or throw him out? He'd bunt every time up, beat it out, and steal three bases. Seriously. I know the legend that surrounds Ruth, and you can look at the numbers and see that he did all these things, but the numbers aren't put into CONTEXT often enough.

[NewbieJr 541]

No, not even close. Best season since Bond's 73 Hr season, and maybe another Bonds season or two, but, no where close to the top 10 of all time. Great season, but, Ruth averaged about what Arod is doing this season, with a better avg among other things.

Ok. Taking out the nonsense stats between 1997-2003, ARod is having one of teh best seasons of all-time.

[torridjoe 48]

My point is that you can't compare the two eras. There are TONS of guys who, had they played when Ruth did, against the players Ruth did, would have put up superior numbers to Ruth. He's a product of his era. The game isn't the same now. Jose Reyes would have scored 4000 runs a season then. Think anyone could pick him off or throw him out? He'd bunt every time up, beat it out, and steal three bases. Seriously. I know the legend that surrounds Ruth, and you can look at the numbers and see that he did all these things, but the numbers aren't put into CONTEXT often enough.

 

I just DID put them into context. The OPS figures I cited are era-neutral.

[Me_2006 14]

I just DID put them into context. The OPS figures I cited are era-neutral.

I don't think you can say any of the numbers are era-neutral though. I mean, it's just not against the same caliber of players. It's not as high pressure. It's not as scouted, as game planned, as everything. You can simply watch Alex Rodriquez and tell he's the most talented player of all time. With his amazing ability, and the monster numbers he's already putting up, Ruth's 714 will fall soon, and be passed by a fairly large margin, and if he stays in situations like NY (contending teams, like Ruth played with, the Yankees owned basically all of the good talent in baseball) he'll be there in RBI and every other important statistic as well. Similar/better numbers against better competition, that's fairly simple. It's A-Rod.

 

Agree to disagree I guess.

[torridjoe 48]

I don't think you can say any of the numbers are era-neutral though. I mean, it's just not against the same caliber of players. It's not as high pressure. It's not as scouted, as game planned, as everything. You can simply watch Alex Rodriquez and tell he's the most talented player of all time. With his amazing ability, and the monster numbers he's already putting up, Ruth's 714 will fall soon, and be passed by a fairly large margin, and if he stays in situations like NY (contending teams, like Ruth played with, the Yankees owned basically all of the good talent in baseball) he'll be there in RBI and every other important statistic as well. Similar/better numbers against better competition, that's fairly simple. It's A-Rod.

 

Agree to disagree I guess.

 

But your competition is who you play against. Ruth was much better than his league than Arod is better than his.

 

If you want to say he has the most physical talent for the game ever, I'd have a harder time arguing against it. But compared to equalize the eras, Ruth played the game better. If nothing else, you agree that a guy who could make the Hall as a pitcher OR a batter is a better player than one who just has offense, right?

[Me_2006 14]

But your competition is who you play against. Ruth was much better than his league than Arod is better than his.

 

If you want to say he has the most physical talent for the game ever, I'd have a harder time arguing against it. But compared to equalize the eras, Ruth played the game better. If nothing else, you agree that a guy who could make the Hall as a pitcher OR a batter is a better player than one who just has offense, right?

I'll agree on that. Although again, today everyone is so specialized that it'd never be a possibility unless you were a total flop at one or the other. That's my point. The difference in the game makes them impossible to compare. You think if Santana could hit .300 that the Twins would risk letting him go hit every day? No way.

 

 

I still think Griffey is in the convo in both regards. He's a better fielder than...well...everyone. If not for injuries, we'd be having a different conversation right now. But the same can be said about a lot of guys. I do think Junior has more talent than anyone ever though. Definitely best swing. That CANT be argued. Not by anyone. Ever. His swing is the most beautiful thing in sports. Better than the Kareem hook, or whoever you want to say's jump shot, or the way any QB threw the ball. It's just, incredible. The fact that he's one of the greatest of all time with a swing that smooth and glamorous only adds to that.

[Old Sarge 0]

I'll agree on that. Although again, today everyone is so specialized that it'd never be a possibility unless you were a total flop at one or the other. That's my point. The difference in the game makes them impossible to compare. You think if Santana could hit .300 that the Twins would risk letting him go hit every day? No way.

I still think Griffey is in the convo in both regards. He's a better fielder than...well...everyone. If not for injuries, we'd be having a different conversation right now. But the same can be said about a lot of guys. I do think Junior has more talent than anyone ever though. Definitely best swing. That CANT be argued. Not by anyone. Ever. His swing is the most beautiful thing in sports.

 

In my opinion, Ted Williams had the best swing, in baseball. David Justice would run a close second.

[Me_2006 14]

In my opinion, Ted Williams had the best swing, in baseball. David Justice would run a close second.

Wow. Really?

 

Personal preference I guess. It's just that nobody swings like Junior. It looks so smooth and effortless and then the ball goes like 400ft. I think that's what sets it apart like I said, Griffey has the amazing talent to accentuate that swing. Ted Williams was a helluva player too (Red Sox fan).

[NewbieJr 541]

Holy crap. Two more home runs by ARod tonight.

 

He's just sick!

[cgod 0]

In my opinion, Ted Williams had the best swing, in baseball. David Justice would run a close second.

Will Clark had a nice swing too. Must be something about those lefties.

[Yer mom 2]

I agerr with old sarge, Justice swing was sweet azz sweet. Arod on fire! Postseason

[Old Sarge 0]

Alex has a 2-run shot, today.