teejay booker 0 Posted September 24, 2007 Warner tore apart the Ravens D today and rejuvinated the Arizona passing game. Leinhart may have thrown for 300 yds. last week, but has been largely ineffective and has looked clumsy and lead-footed at times. Does Warner's success against a great D earn him the right to start next week? Arizona is 1-2 and anything is possible, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echo52 0 Posted September 24, 2007 This is the yahoo update for Boldin: "Sep 23 Boldin made a career-high 14 receptions for 181 yards and two touchdowns in Sunday's loss at Baltimore. Recommendation: He caught both of his touchdown passes from backup quarterback Kurt Warner, who rallied the Cardinals from a 17-point deficit in the second half, but his targets were approximately even between Warner and starter Matt Leinart, who split the game roughly 50-50. Leinart will start in Week 4 against a tough Pittsburgh defense. No matter who is under center for the Cardinals, Boldin is an excellent playmaker who should receive plenty of looks. " I'm all for giving Warner a chance, but they need to make a decision soon and let the "winner" stick with it for the reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROCKET 0 Posted September 24, 2007 It is impossible for Warner to be the starter because so many people drafted Leinart as their starting qb after missing out on the big 5. Here's to grabbing Warner off waivers to p.o. the desperate Leinart owners Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted September 24, 2007 I was glad to see that Boldin was getting looks from Leinert too, but as soon as I saw Warner in there I got excited. I think Leinert could be on a short string even if he does start again. He is slow mentally and physically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echo52 0 Posted September 24, 2007 I was glad to see that Boldin was getting looks from Leinert too, but as soon as I saw Warner in there I got excited. I think Leinert could be on a short string even if he does start again. He is slow mentally and physically. Maybe he's more suited for ballroom dancing...I mean he passed that class with excellent marks while at USC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teejay booker 0 Posted September 24, 2007 It is impossible for Warner to be the starter because so many people drafted Leinart as their starting qb after missing out on the big 5. Here's to grabbing Warner off waivers to p.o. the desperate Leinart owners Actually I own Brady and Garrard. Just wondering... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted September 24, 2007 Warner has tunnel vision for Boldin -- so thi9s would really help Boldin's numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILikeTacos 0 Posted September 24, 2007 Gents - sorry about my lack of knowledge - did Leinart get hurt or did he just suck or did Warner win the job (JJ) or what? Gracias. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Late((MF))Hitters 1 Posted September 24, 2007 Gents - sorry about my lack of knowledge - did Leinart get hurt or did he just suck or did Warner win the job (JJ) or what? Gracias. None of the above. Leinart got a good look at Brenda Warner and then fell violently ill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted September 24, 2007 after the game jay glazier sai warner runs the 2 minute offense a lot better and no matter what they were planning on using warner during the 2 minute drill. So even if Leinart threw for 250 and 2 td's they would have used Warner. That's what the coaches are saying at least Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vwneogeovw 0 Posted September 24, 2007 The coaches are full of shyt. Their just trying to spare Leinert's psyche and disspell any of the rumors that are gonna start flying about who is/should/will be Zona's starting QB next week. If you can give Warner time to throw he will shred any defense with those receivers. Zona's line has been such crap since he's been there, and it finally has improved a bit. Warner gives that team the best chance to win now. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwyjibo 0 Posted September 24, 2007 With the NFC being so wide-open right now, if the Cardinals coaching staff feels that the team is playoff-caliber, they MUST start Warner. So I think Leinart will have a VERY short leash and if he stubs his toe against PIT and Warner comes in to lead the Cards to victory, Kurt gets the nod for the foreseeable future, at least until the Cards are out of playoff contention. As of now, Leinart has about as good of a grasp on the starting job as Grossman has in Chicago. Of course, I do have a vested interest in Kurt starting, being a Boldin owner, so perhaps that is part wishful thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted September 24, 2007 The coaches are full of shyt. Their just trying to spare Leinert's psyche and disspell any of the rumors that are gonna start flying about who is/should/will be Zona's starting QB next week. If you can give Warner time to throw he will shred any defense with those receivers. Zona's line has been such crap since he's been there, and it finally has improved a bit. Warner gives that team the best chance to win now. Period. Yep. Add to that, the Cards play the Steelers next week, Whisenhunt's and half of the staff's old team. Does Ken stick with Leinart or give them the best chance to win? Should be a fun week here in the desert... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nategraduates 0 Posted September 24, 2007 Leinart is an incredibly clumsy and just down right dumb QB, I had to deal with his shenanigans at USC where his inability to lead an offense was covered up by the outstanding talent he had around him. I wasn't too high on ARI drafting him, he still isn't ready for the big time yet and once you knock him around a bit or pick him off he falls off the ledge in production. Kurt Warner is a poised veteran and would be a better fit to lead that offense over Leinart. I think that if Leinart struggles the next week and the game is still winnable he will be pulled early for Kurt, the Cards still have playoffs aspirations and Warner is the best candidate to lead them there. But if ARI starts downing the next 3 or 4 games and end up 1-5 or 1-6 then you can expect Leinart to finish out the season to gain him playing experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwyjibo 0 Posted September 24, 2007 Nate, how come you didn't grab Brandon Jackson? You seem to have the rest of the Jacksons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nategraduates 0 Posted September 24, 2007 I should, maybe I'll start Tavaris Jackson over Marc Bulger for what he did to me today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted September 24, 2007 and if he stubs his toe against PIT and Warner comes in to lead the Cards to victory Not going to happen, Steelers going 4-0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 547 Posted September 24, 2007 Kurt Warner, when given a decent amount of time to throw, is still an excellent NFL QB. It is what it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiotekniQues 0 Posted September 24, 2007 i hope warner takes over, i need fitz to wake up in the next few weeks. leinert was too sluggish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwyjibo 0 Posted September 24, 2007 Not going to happen, Steelers going 4-0 A true Steeler fan would have typed "16-0." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeshushu 51 Posted September 24, 2007 I have Boldin too so Warner chucking the pill around would be fantastico. Warner is old and not very durable however, and if he gets bounced around well all bets are off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimptaddy 0 Posted September 24, 2007 If Warner is the new starter, I suppose a little notice is out of the question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince44 205 Posted September 24, 2007 The owners of Boldin and Fitz damn well better hope he takes over. Warner is gonna get the ball to those two stud WR's early, often, and will throw the deep ball. The guy could start next week and throw multiple INT's and FUMBLE three times and he still is a better option for those of us who need those two guys to produce like they should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted September 24, 2007 as a boldin da beautiful owner...I FOCKING HOPE SO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thunderbolts 0 Posted September 24, 2007 Cardinals have a no huddle package insert for the Raven's game. Whizenhunt play the Ravens twice a year in Pittsburgh. The Ravens defense subsistutes less in a no huddle situation. Warner ran the no huddle package & Leinart ran the normal offense. Coaches didn't want to overload Leinart with too many packages/plays so they split it out between both QB. This compares to a 3rd down RB or 3rd wide receiver package. If Cardinals fell behind early then Warner was plan to come in and run no huddle offense. But Warner is playing much better than Leinart. The stats are better and the Warner has a stronger arm compare to Matt Leinart. The receivers seem to play faster and go deeper with Warner. The Warner/Leinart situation is that Leinart is QB of future, but Warner is ready if offense stalls and team falls behind. Not a clear fantasy football situation. It's Leinarts job to lose, he get first shot, but Warner is ready to go if needed. Both guys know the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieG 4 Posted September 24, 2007 What's really surprised me about Leinart's play is what i'll call his "arm strength to mobility/savvy". It shouldn't have really, scouts said, Heisman trophy, withstanding, that he wasn't very mobile and didn't have that strong, or overly accurate a throwing arm. e.g. Chad Pennington, even with his popgun arm has a lot of savvy and MUCH better feet than Leinart. What they did say was a positive was his brains. So the fact that he seems so hesitant to make decisions and holds onto the ball too long with his "smarts" is really surprising to me..he has had enough starts that he obviously should be getting better at a faster rate than what we've been seeing (no sh*t Sherlock). Too early to say that he's not going to succeed as a starter in the league.. but what's going on now is cause for some doubt long term. Maybe he just needs to play Detroit's D for 16 games a season. As a Fitz owner, i'm going to be patient with their schedule lightening up big time in terms of quality of defenses faced. My guy should start to score soon.. and i think we'll start to see Fitz listed on some "players to trade for" lists soon. Only issue is that Quan is such a nice receiver that they will tend to prevent ea. other from having the monster weeks as the season rolls on. I would love it if Warner gets all the time he can. Even if Quan is his fave natural target.. a good passing ofense will have good effect for both WRs. And i'll add that Edge and a balanced attack is only a good thing long term.. but they clearly have to open it up more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redstone 0 Posted September 24, 2007 I didnt see the game but have Fitz. What happened that Boldin got all the balls? Fitz double teamed? Does anyone know how many times Fitz was targeted by warner? Should I be even more worried than I am now if Warner takes over? Looking for AZ homer's insight please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lambert58 71 Posted September 24, 2007 I didnt see the game but have Fitz. What happened that Boldin got all the balls? Fitz double teamed? Does anyone know how many times Fitz was targeted by warner? Should I be even more worried than I am now if Warner takes over?Looking for AZ homer's insight please. Just went through the play-by-play and this is what I found: Leinart - 8 throws to Boldin ----- 7 to Fitz Warner - 8 throws to Boldin ---- 5 to Fitz. Keep in mind that of the passes that were caught by Fitz, a majority of those came from Warner and had decent yardage.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redstone 0 Posted September 24, 2007 hmm... looks like boldin just made more out of his oppurtunities. Unless the deep balls were all to boldin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites