Purely irresponsible blatant speculation

[patweisers44 865]

Subject has been tossed around a bit lately (read: on TDZ yesterday when FFToday was unaccessible for me). Being completely speculative and irresponsible....who do you think shows up on that report.

 

I've guessed Roger Clemens, Pudge Rodriguez, Scott Rolen, Randy Johnson, Kerry Wood, David Eckstein , and Matt Anderson

 

Who do you got?

[Mungwater 601]

Subject has been tossed around a bit lately (read: on TDZ yesterday when FFToday was unaccessible for me). Being completely speculative and irresponsible....who do you think shows up on that report.

 

I've guessed Roger Clemens, Pudge Rodriguez, Scott Rolen, Randy Johnson, Kerry Wood, David Eckstein , and Matt Anderson

 

Who do you got?

 

Bagwell, Gagne, Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura, Mark Prior, Nomar

[edjr 6,898]

Roger Clemens, Nomah Garciaparra, Scott Rolen, Eric Gagne, Jeff Bagwell, Miguel Tejada, Adrian Beltre..

 

THERE WILL BE MORE!

[The Hood 9]

David Ortiz. Cut by the Twins becomes a superstar 2 years later.

[beercat 5]

Bret Boone could've been the poster boy for steroids.

[MurOh 1]

Clemens was just reported as being in the report...on Mike and Mike.

 

It said he used it with the Yankees and before he got to the Yankees.

 

Looking for link

[surferskin 31]

albert pooholes

[mighty_thor 115]

There was a leaked story that no Mets are on the report but a number of Yankees are on the report.

[NorthernVike 2,095]

David Ortiz. Cut by the Twins becomes a superstar 2 years later.

 

 

I'll be shocked if he is not on the list

[Mungwater 601]

Clemens was just reported as being in the report...on Mike and Mike.

 

It said he used it with the Yankees and before he got to the Yankees.

 

Looking for link

 

He probably started after Boston ran his a$$ out of town, then the Blue Jays picked him up..

 

How do you go from washed up to winning four more Cy Youngs?

[MurOh 1]

There was a leaked story that no Mets are on the report but a number of Yankees are on the report.

 

Couple things from the Bergen Record by Bob Klapisch. No mention of names in this article.

 

Bergen Record

 

The official, who spoke to a third party who'd seen the final report, predicted, "It's going to be a rough day in the Bronx" after the identities are made public.

 

No Mets from the current 40-man roster are named, according to the same source.

 

There's also clear evidence Mitchell is a Red Sox fan: he was caught by a Newsday reporter this spring at Fenway wearing a Sox jacket and hat, obtaining autographs for his son.

 

As one official said on Wednesday, "For everyone's sake, there [had] better be some Red Sox players on that list."

[mighty_thor 115]

Bagwell, Gagne, Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura, Mark Prior, Nomar

 

I always thought frank Thomas was one of the clean ones who was hurt most by steroids. Before guys starting bulking up he was the best hitter in the game. He looks like he is naturally big and he his numbers never jumped dramatically.

[Mungwater 601]

I always thought frank Thomas was one of the clean ones who was hurt most by steroids. Before guys starting bulking up he was the best hitter in the game. He looks like he is naturally big and he his numbers never jumped dramatically.

 

He is one that I was on the fence about, he did play football at Auburn, so he has always been big. Its just that he started to get some weird injuries, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was.

[NorthernVike 2,095]

Anyone know when the list is to be made public?

 

 

 

:popcorn:

[mighty_thor 115]

Couple things from the Bergen Record by Bob Klapisch. No mention of names in this article.

 

Bergen Record

 

The official, who spoke to a third party who'd seen the final report, predicted, "It's going to be a rough day in the Bronx" after the identities are made public.

 

No Mets from the current 40-man roster are named, according to the same source.

 

There's also clear evidence Mitchell is a Red Sox fan: he was caught by a Newsday reporter this spring at Fenway wearing a Sox jacket and hat, obtaining autographs for his son.

 

As one official said on Wednesday, "For everyone's sake, there [had] better be some Red Sox players on that list."

 

He has never hid the fact that he is a Red Sox fan. I think he is on their board.

 

As a Red Sox fan I can think of a few possibilities of former and current Sox: Trot Nixon, Varitek, Nomar, Gabe Kapler, Kevin Millar. I hope Big Papi is not on the list. I doubt Manny is. He has always been a consistently good hitter since he came in the league and his power numbers never jumped much.

[mighty_thor 115]

Anyone know when the list is to be made public?

:popcorn:

 

I think they said 2PM EST

[edjr 6,898]

He probably started after Boston ran his a$$ out of town, then the Blue Jays picked him up..

 

How do you go from washed up to winning four more Cy Youngs?

 

 

I've been saying this for YEARS, noone would listen to me.

[patweisers44 865]

I've been saying this for YEARS, noone would listen to me.

right there with ya edjr....Dambit man...you are right again!

[Mungwater 601]

I've been saying this for YEARS, noone would listen to me.

 

I listened ed, I listened...

 

Try living in Houston, where Roger is a god, nobody listened to me. They're weird about their baseball here. They say that Bagwell can't be on Steroids, that Biggio is the greatest second baseman to play the game (while he was never the best in the National league central..)

[surferskin 31]

I've been saying this for YEARS, noone would listen to me.

no, what you were saying is "why does bonds get criticized about steroid use more than clemens?" the answer is pretty obvious but you never want to let it go.

[NorthernVike 2,095]

I think they said 2PM EST

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

Couple things from the Bergen Record by Bob Klapisch. No mention of names in this article.

 

Bergen Record

 

The official, who spoke to a third party who'd seen the final report, predicted, "It's going to be a rough day in the Bronx" after the identities are made public.

 

No Mets from the current 40-man roster are named, according to the same source.

 

There's also clear evidence Mitchell is a Red Sox fan: he was caught by a Newsday reporter this spring at Fenway wearing a Sox jacket and hat, obtaining autographs for his son.

 

As one official said on Wednesday, "For everyone's sake, there [had] better be some Red Sox players on that list."

 

Do you think that he is a fan? Check out the guy just below Larry Lucchino

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/team/front_office.jsp?c_id=bos

Front Office Directory

Officers

John W. Henry Principal Owner

Thomas C. Werner Chairman

David Ginsberg Vice Chairman

Phillip H. Morse Vice Chairman

Larry Lucchino President/Chief Executive Officer

George J. Mitchell Director

[phillybear 366]

Lance Armstrong

Ron Artest

Pacman Jones

Lendale White

Sean Taylor

Michael Vick

[patweisers44 865]

non validated list allegedly leaked:

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton B radley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozz ie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood."

[surferskin 31]

non validated list allegedly leaked:

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton B radley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozz ie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood."

Pooholes...told ya.

[jerryskids 7,084]

Wally Joyner

[edjr 6,898]

no, what you were saying is "why does bonds get criticized about steroid use more than clemens?" the answer is pretty obvious but you never want to let it go.

I just bumped TWO of my threads calling clemens a roider, i didnt mention bonds in either of those threads when I created it.

[edjr 6,898]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

NOT LENNY DYKSTRA!!!

[surferskin 31]

I just bumped TWO of my threads calling clemens a roider, i didnt mention bonds in either.

you and i both know why you started those threads.

[edjr 6,898]

you and i both know why you started those threads.

 

 

 

 

because I believe clemens did steroids and people were in denial?

[surferskin 31]

because I believe clemens did steroids and people were in denial?

some people were in denial but i was not one of them. that's the whole thing about this mitchell report that i find sooooo ...after guys like mcguire, bonds, sosa, etc. have been busted what big names would you actually be surprised to see on a list? if this thing came out 5 years ago, i'd actually give a shat.

[edjr 6,898]

some people were in denial but i was not one of them. that's the whole thing about this mitchell report that i find sooooo ...after guys like mcguire, bonds, sosa, etc. have been busted what big names would you actually be surprised to see on a list? if this thing came out 5 years ago, i'd actually give a shat.

 

 

good looks aside, that's why you and I have a lot in common.

[Mungwater 601]

where did you guys get this?

[edjr 6,898]

non validated list allegedly leaked:

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton B radley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozz ie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood."

 

 

Where did you get this from?

 

I emailed it to Dale and Holley and they are talking about it.

[patweisers44 865]

Where did you get this from?

 

I emailed it to Dale and Holley and they are talking about it.

a trader i deal with from NYC got it emailed to him from a friend "in the media". Obviously not straight from the horse's mouth thus the disclaimers i put on it.

[MurOh 1]

Rich Garces?

 

Didn't the bullpen catcher just push him and he'd roll to the mound?

 

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

Rich Garces?

 

Didn't the bullpen catcher just push him and he'd roll to the mound?

 

 

 

He is El Guapo!

[edjr 6,898]

a trader i deal with from NYC got it emailed to him from a friend "in the media". Obviously not straight from the horse's mouth thus the disclaimers i put on it.

 

2 other people emailed the exact same list.

[MurOh 1]

He is El Guapo!

 

I know that but he was so fat that when he pitched you couldnt see the mound

[edjr 6,898]

How is Luis Gonzo not on this list? I'm calling B.S.