Is Obama proud to be an american ?

[TD Ryan2 316]

You really think Hillary would be a radical TD?

 

I don't much like her but I don't see her as radical, just the opposite really. I think she lacks any defining principles; she's a politician clear to the focking bone.

 

not as radical as Obama.

but the whole universal healthcare plan is a pretty big risk. It may be our best option with the current state of healthcare but it may turn into a gigantic government clusterfock too. One that will just require more and more tax money to be dumped into the system.

Hillary is hellbent on having her healthcare plan work and I believe her democratic roots would lead her to tax the sweet jesus out of us if it isn't all going as planned.

[mighty_thor 115]

That was proven ... I thought the NY Times priented a appology for that becasue they had absolutley nothing hard linking them ? Now you can say he left his wife for a newer version but thats pretty much it in morality area at least right now.

 

I don't think they ever aplogized. i think they stood by their story because they were just reporting what people told them. The story was reported after McCain pretty much wrapped up the nomination so there has not been much digging into the story by any other campaigns. I am sure there will be some digging by the democrats once the presidential campaign swings into action. I am sure they will even bring up the circumstances of his leaving his first wife.

 

I have trouble handicapping the presidential race but my gut is telling me that Obama may get a high percentage of the women vote because of the following facts.

 

McCain left his wife for a younger woman

Obama is a younger better looking guy

McCain's 100 year Iraq War statement (I think that statement will haunt him)

[BMoney 0]

I'm probably the most patriotic person that I know, and there have been many times, particularly in the last 7 years, when I haven't been too proud of America. That makes me less viable as a political candidate, if I were to so choose?

 

I know that it does, because this country's stupid........but it shouldn't.

 

 

regardless of a moment or a president that you didnt agree with...you should NEVER truly feel that youve never been proud of the country until today...

 

no ones forcing you or obamas wife to stay...id have no problem telling her to get the fock out...

 

she wasnt happy with this country when it helped get her into an ivy school that she wouldnt have gotten into on her own? shes a focking joke...

 

go to a veterans hospital and tell them that you are finally happy to be american...because some minority is gaining momentum in an election...

 

milwaukee is full of clueless minorities anyway..they like that hes black and they think, oh goody, we elect him and its more free handouts for us..

 

.over 125 homicides last year alone in that city..i think she meant her happiest day was getting out of milwaukee alive..

[buffalobillsffl2003 0]

you can take the silverback out of the jungle......... ........and even if you mold him into a half-silverback, half-wigger combo, he's still always a silverback.

 

 

If he wins it will be "Oh Happy Day" in silverback territory like Detroit and Baltimore.......I can see dem dancin like wigger Saints owner Boogie Benson with his umbrella.

 

NOW AHZ CAN GITZ MAH RAPE-A-RASHUNS!

 

[Brad GLuckman 519]

McCain has some marriage infidelties that are certain to pop up during the election. Especially the one with the lobbyist.

 

The NYT got hammered for even printing the story. I think this is a dead issue

 

 

I have trouble handicapping the presidential race but my gut is telling me that Obama may get a high percentage of the women vote because of the following facts.

 

McCain left his wife for a younger woman

Obama is a younger better looking guy

McCain's 100 year Iraq War statement (I think that statement will haunt him)

 

I don't think him leaving his wife will be mentioned much, if at all. It's his own personal business, and there wasn't a scandal or anything.

As far as the 100 yr statement...if you watch the whole discussion McCain had with the guy, he compares an occupation in Iraq to Korea, Japan, Germany, and Bosnia. Now the dems will surely only take that one quote to scare the crap out of people, but we've been in Germany and Japan for 60 yrs, Korea for 50...I don't think McCain said anything that most people didn't think was a possibility...but he did screw up with how he said it and I agree with you, it will come back to haunt him.

[Rattlesnake 0]

 

Well, that seals it. There's no focking way I'll vote for a smoker.

 

Amazing that this would matter to anybody. Hell, I hate smoking......I loathe it........and don't feel badly for anybody who dies a horrible death because they chose to spend their lives smoking. It wouldn't keep me from voting for somebody, though.

 

Also, not that fact matters much around here, but he's quit. Just for the record.

[Rattlesnake 0]

Unless you think Bush just lied to us.

 

Nah, who thinks that?!?!?

 

 

There are some real gems in this thread.

[Rattlesnake 0]

not as radical as Obama.

but the whole universal healthcare plan is a pretty big risk. It may be our best option with the current state of healthcare but it may turn into a gigantic government clusterfock too. One that will just require more and more tax money to be dumped into the system.

Hillary is hellbent on having her healthcare plan work and I believe her democratic roots would lead her to tax the sweet jesus out of us if it isn't all going as planned.

 

Clinton's publicity machine has done an amazing job, they really have. The fact that some people actually believe that she's "less radical" or "more conservative" or "more moderate" than Obama is laughable. It really is.

[Rattlesnake 0]

regardless of a moment or a president that you didnt agree with...you should NEVER truly feel that youve never been proud of the country until today...

 

It depends on how long a person's been alive and/or active in politics, I would think. See, statements like this aren't black and white. For me, since I'm a fairly young man, there really hasn't been a lot that has happened that I would say I'm proud of. As a historian, and teacher of history, am I proud of our past? Of course. Our recent (last 7 years) past and present? Not really so much.

 

I don't understand why this is such a big deal, or why it's so hard to understand. I honestly don't.

[gocolts 300]

regardless of a moment or a president that you didnt agree with...you should NEVER truly feel that youve never been proud of the country until today...

 

It depends on how long a person's been alive and/or active in politics, I would think. See, statements like this aren't black and white. For me, since I'm a fairly young man, there really hasn't been a lot that has happened that I would say I'm proud of. As a historian, and teacher of history, am I proud of our past? Of course. Our recent (last 7 years) past and present? Not really so much.

 

I don't understand why this is such a big deal, or why it's so hard to understand. I honestly don't.

I can see why you don't understand. You just don't seem to grasp the concept of "There really hasn't been a lot that has happened that I would say I'm proud of" and "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country". One says NEVER, the other says not a lot. One says 7 years the other says at least 20 years. Big difference. I bet there are many things people could come up with that has happened in the last 7 years that you just are not thinking of at this time. Like the bravery of all the cops, firemen, doctors, nurses and everyone that was involved in the rescue attempts and care on September 11th by so many selfless people. Seeing and hearing about all the heroic acts on that day was amazing.

[Rattlesnake 0]

I can see why you don't understand. You just don't seem to grasp the concept of "There really hasn't been a lot that has happened that I would say I'm proud of" and "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country". One says NEVER, the other says not a lot. One says 7 years the other says at least 20 years. Big difference. I bet there are many things people could come up with that has happened in the last 7 years that you just are not thinking of at this time. Like the bravery of all the cops, firemen, doctors, nurses and everyone that was involved in the rescue attempts and care on September 11th by so many selfless people. Seeing and hearing about all the heroic acts on that day was amazing.

 

Sure it was. Her statement, obviously, was referring to government and politics. What did the actions of those on, and after, 9/11 have to do with the government? I'm sure if you asked Michelle Obama whether or not she was moved by those moments, she would say yes.

 

You're stretching this whole thing JUST a tad.

 

You aren't alone, though.

[Korben Dallas 0]

I think this quite heartening. So far the best attacks on Obama have been a misrepresentation of a single line in a single speech that his WIFE gave, an incorrect spammail on whether Obama held his hand up to his heart correctly, and that the minister of the church is a classic black preacher. If that is the 3 worst things people can come up with, I think we've got a winner here. None of these are substantive, they are all interpretive hyper-bole. I would be much more willing to listen to Obama criticism if any of it was something REAL. It's all based on taking the most hateful and cynical approach to each one and that's needed because otherwise they are worth anything.

 

Lets review the church thing again. Just so you know, Obama isn't the only member of this church, here's some others...

 

Barack Obama - U.S. Senator, Illinois (UCC; Senator)

Jon Corzine - U.S. Senator, (D) New Jersey (UCC)

Max Baucus - U.S. Senator, (D) Montana (UCC)

Daniel Akaka - U.S. Senator, (D) Hawaii

Judd Gregg - U.S. Senator, ® New Hampshire

Bob Graham - U.S. Senator, Florida (UCC) Former I think

Thelma Drake - U.S. Rep., Virginia 2nd District

Andrew Young - second black mayor of Atlanta

Howard Dean - Democratic Party Chairman (UCC)

 

What I found more fascinating is that Hillary has several member that GO TO OBAMA's church on her campaign as well.

 

I just think the whole thing is a reach, Obama has been in the public limelight for a long time and he has never exhibited any behavior that leads anyone to believe that he thinks along the same mindset-and you know it because they would have dragged it out by now, before the storyline is completely dead.

 

This type of guilt by association, prove its not true, or the newest and dumbest yet-is a man running to be the leader of the United States hate the United States...gawd damnn, its so weak.

[phillybear 366]

and that the minister of the church is a classic black preacher.

 

Do you have any idea how some black people are viewing those remarks? I work with mostly black people. Baptist, hardcore, church going black people. Before, they were hardcore for Obama. Now, the Hillary bandwagon has gained some serious support. Let's see how Pennsylvania plays out. Obviously, this is small sampling size. But some are actually considering McCain. That's how pissed off they are at Obama.

 

But make no mistake. Those pastors comments were nowhere close to typical or classic black preacher speak.

[Korben Dallas 0]

Do you have any idea how some black people are viewing those remarks? I work with mostly black people. Baptist, hardcore, church going black people. Before, they were hardcore for Obama. Now, the Hillary bandwagon has gained some serious support. Let's see how Pennsylvania plays out. Obviously, this is small sampling size. But some are actually considering McCain. That's how pissed off they are at Obama.

 

But make no mistake. Those pastors comments were nowhere close to typical or classic black preacher speak.

 

I would never presume that black people hold some generic views more than I think you and I agree on things because we're white. But the 3 black women I work with all said that he's just telling it like it is for the black man.

 

I certainly don't agree, but its their opinion. Now because I really like these women and I've known them for 5 years and see them every day. Does that mean I think the same way???

[phillybear 366]

I would never presume that black people hold some generic views more than I think you and I agree on things because we're white. But the 3 black women I work with all said that he's just telling it like it is for the black man.

 

I certainly don't agree, but its their opinion. Now because I really like these women and I've known them for 5 years and see them every day. Does that mean I think the same way???

 

They actually believe that "he's just telling it like it is for the black man"? I am really, really disappointed by that. Sigh. I try to keep an open mind about a lot of political stuff, but even I can't wrap my head around this. I think I'll pound another beer, and bash my head into a wall until I pass out or fall asleep, whichever comes first.

[Savage Beast 1]

Magic didn't get the aids from a woman.

 

hth

 

He got it from Isiah. And this picture is proof.

http://www.nba.com/media/allstar2003/magic_140_1992.jpg

[Mack 1 6]

I think this quite heartening. So far the best attacks on Obama have been a misrepresentation of a single line in a single speech that his WIFE gave, an incorrect spammail on whether Obama held his hand up to his heart correctly, and that the minister of the church is a classic black preacher. If that is the 3 worst things people can come up with, I think we've got a winner here. None of these are substantive, they are all interpretive hyper-bole. I would be much more willing to listen to Obama criticism if any of it was something REAL. It's all based on taking the most hateful and cynical approach to each one and that's needed because otherwise they are worth anything.

 

Lets review the church thing again. Just so you know, Obama isn't the only member of this church, here's some others...

 

Barack Obama - U.S. Senator, Illinois (UCC; Senator)

Jon Corzine - U.S. Senator, (D) New Jersey (UCC)

Max Baucus - U.S. Senator, (D) Montana (UCC)

Daniel Akaka - U.S. Senator, (D) Hawaii

Judd Gregg - U.S. Senator, ® New Hampshire

Bob Graham - U.S. Senator, Florida (UCC) Former I think

Thelma Drake - U.S. Rep., Virginia 2nd District

Andrew Young - second black mayor of Atlanta

Howard Dean - Democratic Party Chairman (UCC)

 

What I found more fascinating is that Hillary has several member that GO TO OBAMA's church on her campaign as well.

 

I just think the whole thing is a reach, Obama has been in the public limelight for a long time and he has never exhibited any behavior that leads anyone to believe that he thinks along the same mindset-and you know it because they would have dragged it out by now, before the storyline is completely dead.

 

This type of guilt by association, prove its not true, or the newest and dumbest yet-is a man running to be the leader of the United States hate the United States...gawd damnn, its so weak.

Case closed.

 

Well said.

[The Moz 71]

I think this quite heartening. So far the best attacks on Obama have been a misrepresentation of a single line in a single speech that his WIFE gave, an incorrect spammail on whether Obama held his hand up to his heart correctly, and that the minister of the church is a classic black preacher. If that is the 3 worst things people can come up with

 

So youre saying - Obama's wife saying in a speech - the first time she was proud to be an amercian was when her husband was running for president means nothing ? Thats just 1 line from a speech why should that mean anything I guess. Tell us how this is a misrepresentation when the comment seemed pretty damn straight forward ? Tell us how the " spammail " was incorrect - was Obama NOT having his hands to his sides during the national anthem ? There is pics of that everywhere I am curious to hear how that was all just made up ? And Wright is a " classic " black preacher -- NO, sorry bout that - Wright is a Classic black racist ! Black preachers - teach loudly yes , and like to get the poeple worked up but they are talking about GOD - not talking about the fact they hate their country !

 

Some poeple fall in love with Obama - and he is a GREAT GREAT speaker - maybe the greatest I have ever heard in a political arena - poeple can't open their eyes and see others plainly for who they are ! Look I might actually vote Obama - if for no other reason i really don't like McCain either and I HATE the Iraq war but it won't be becasue of this blind bullshiit hope for change - it will be for the realism of him being the best of what is once again 2 shitty canidates.

[Mack 1 6]

So youre saying - Obama's wife saying in a speech - the first time she was proud to be an amercian was when her husband was running for president means nothing ?

It's hilarious how people try to quantify others' opinion, as if she's "wrong" for feeling this way. Try walking in the shoes of a black woman for a lifetime and you'd see what see meant by that statement.

 

Her experiences have led her to that conclusion, so who are we to say if she's right or wrong for feeling that way?

 

Ridiculous.

[surferskin 31]

It's hilarious how people try to quantify others' opinion, as if she's "wrong" for feeling this way. Try walking in the shoes of a black woman for a lifetime and you'd see what see meant by that statement.

 

Her experiences have led her to that conclusion, so who are we to say if she's right or wrong for feeling that way?

 

Ridiculous.

Yeah, she's had a real tough life.

[The Moz 71]

It's hilarious how people try to quantify others' opinion, as if she's "wrong" for feeling this way. Try walking in the shoes of a black woman for a lifetime and you'd see what see meant by that statement.

 

Her experiences have led her to that conclusion, so who are we to say if she's right or wrong for feeling that way?

 

Ridiculous.

 

 

Cool

 

Let's also let Ole Michele Obama walk in the shoes of a African woman for a "lifetime" as you put it -- let's see how wrong she feels for making that statement ( about not being proud to be an American ) after that !

[kpbuckeye 3]

It's hilarious how people try to quantify others' opinion, as if she's "wrong" for feeling this way. Try walking in the shoes of a black woman for a lifetime and you'd see what see meant by that statement.

 

Her experiences have led her to that conclusion, so who are we to say if she's right or wrong for feeling that way?

 

Ridiculous.

 

 

And I am sure that you have never walked in the shoes of a white man where we are supposed to be ashamed to be white. We have to give special privilages to blacks for things that have absolutly NOTHING to do with us. Its like having a bunch of mooches saying, you owe me this, you owe me that bc you did this to my great great grandparents. Most people are not racist believe it or not, and whether you want to admit it or not, blacks are much more racist than whites.

[Rattlesnake 0]

I think this quite heartening. So far the best attacks on Obama have been a misrepresentation of a single line in a single speech that his WIFE gave, an incorrect spammail on whether Obama held his hand up to his heart correctly, and that the minister of the church is a classic black preacher. If that is the 3 worst things people can come up with, I think we've got a winner here. None of these are substantive, they are all interpretive hyper-bole. I would be much more willing to listen to Obama criticism if any of it was something REAL. It's all based on taking the most hateful and cynical approach to each one and that's needed because otherwise they are worth anything.

 

Lets review the church thing again. Just so you know, Obama isn't the only member of this church, here's some others...

 

Barack Obama - U.S. Senator, Illinois (UCC; Senator)

Jon Corzine - U.S. Senator, (D) New Jersey (UCC)

Max Baucus - U.S. Senator, (D) Montana (UCC)

Daniel Akaka - U.S. Senator, (D) Hawaii

Judd Gregg - U.S. Senator, ® New Hampshire

Bob Graham - U.S. Senator, Florida (UCC) Former I think

Thelma Drake - U.S. Rep., Virginia 2nd District

Andrew Young - second black mayor of Atlanta

Howard Dean - Democratic Party Chairman (UCC)

 

What I found more fascinating is that Hillary has several member that GO TO OBAMA's church on her campaign as well.

 

I just think the whole thing is a reach, Obama has been in the public limelight for a long time and he has never exhibited any behavior that leads anyone to believe that he thinks along the same mindset-and you know it because they would have dragged it out by now, before the storyline is completely dead.

 

This type of guilt by association, prove its not true, or the newest and dumbest yet-is a man running to be the leader of the United States hate the United States...gawd damnn, its so weak.

 

Yep. As I've said, this election is going to tell us a lot about how far we've really come. Are we still old-fashioned and backwoods, and it's all just masked by IPods and cell phones? Just how ignorant is America? If they fall for the Clinton machine's messages, and McCain's during the general campaign, and actually elect JOHN MCCAIN over Obama........well, then, we know.

[Rattlesnake 0]

So youre saying - Obama's wife saying in a speech - the first time she was proud to be an amercian was when her husband was running for president means nothing ? Thats just 1 line from a speech why should that mean anything I guess. Tell us how this is a misrepresentation when the comment seemed pretty damn straight forward ? Tell us how the " spammail " was incorrect - was Obama NOT having his hands to his sides during the national anthem ? There is pics of that everywhere I am curious to hear how that was all just made up ? And Wright is a " classic " black preacher -- NO, sorry bout that - Wright is a Classic black racist ! Black preachers - teach loudly yes , and like to get the poeple worked up but they are talking about GOD - not talking about the fact they hate their country !

 

Some poeple fall in love with Obama - and he is a GREAT GREAT speaker - maybe the greatest I have ever heard in a political arena - poeple can't open their eyes and see others plainly for who they are ! Look I might actually vote Obama - if for no other reason i really don't like McCain either and I HATE the Iraq war but it won't be becasue of this blind bullshiit hope for change - it will be for the realism of him being the best of what is once again 2 shitty canidates.

 

So all the stuff you've been saying and you're going to vote for him?

 

Credibility =

[Rattlesnake 0]

It's hilarious how people try to quantify others' opinion, as if she's "wrong" for feeling this way. Try walking in the shoes of a black woman for a lifetime and you'd see what see meant by that statement.

 

Her experiences have led her to that conclusion, so who are we to say if she's right or wrong for feeling that way?

 

Ridiculous.

 

Also, of course, it's probably also important to remember that she's not running for President. Her husband is the one running.

 

My God, please, let's see the ignorant get defeated for once. Let 2008 be the year.

[The Moz 71]

So all the stuff you've been saying and you're going to vote for him?

 

 

As for everything other than Iraq war I would vote McCain and not think twice - Iraq weighs alot on my decision but like I said I think both choices suck !

[wiffleball 4,797]

I think this quite heartening. So far the best attacks on Obama have been a misrepresentation of a single line in a single speech that his WIFE gave, an incorrect spammail on whether Obama held his hand up to his heart correctly, and that the minister of the church is a classic black preacher. If that is the 3 worst things people can come up with, I think we've got a winner here. None of these are substantive, they are all interpretive hyper-bole. I would be much more willing to listen to Obama criticism if any of it was something REAL. It's all based on taking the most hateful and cynical approach to each one and that's needed because otherwise they are worth anything.

 

Lets review the church thing again. Just so you know, Obama isn't the only member of this church, here's some others...

 

Barack Obama - U.S. Senator, Illinois (UCC; Senator)

Jon Corzine - U.S. Senator, (D) New Jersey (UCC)

Max Baucus - U.S. Senator, (D) Montana (UCC)

Daniel Akaka - U.S. Senator, (D) Hawaii

Judd Gregg - U.S. Senator, ® New Hampshire

Bob Graham - U.S. Senator, Florida (UCC) Former I think

Thelma Drake - U.S. Rep., Virginia 2nd District

Andrew Young - second black mayor of Atlanta

Howard Dean - Democratic Party Chairman (UCC)

 

What I found more fascinating is that Hillary has several member that GO TO OBAMA's church on her campaign as well.

 

I just think the whole thing is a reach, Obama has been in the public limelight for a long time and he has never exhibited any behavior that leads anyone to believe that he thinks along the same mindset-and you know it because they would have dragged it out by now, before the storyline is completely dead.

 

This type of guilt by association, prove its not true, or the newest and dumbest yet-is a man running to be the leader of the United States hate the United States...gawd damnn, its so weak.

 

 

And how many of them have written not one, but TWO books giving the hate speaking loon Rev Wright a literary blow-job?

 

[Mack 1 6]

Cool

 

Let's also let Ole Michele Obama walk in the shoes of a African woman for a "lifetime" as you put it -- let's see how wrong she feels for making that statement ( about not being proud to be an American ) after that !

It has nothing to do with equating the quality of life in America vs. elsewhere in the world. Perhaps she's had personal negative experiences with how this country works, thus prompting her to say what she said.

 

I have no knowledge of why she said it, but I certainly understand why she said it. And it doesn't surprise me that white folks got so up-in-arms about it. Really, it didn't.

[Mack 1 6]

Also, of course, it's probably also important to remember that she's not running for President. Her husband is the one running.

If that's such a non-issue, why did the media pick up on it and why are you bantering back and forth about it?

[surferskin 31]

It has nothing to do with equating the quality of life in America vs. elsewhere in the world. Perhaps she's had personal negative experiences with how this country works, thus prompting her to say what she said.

 

I have no knowledge of why she said it, but I certainly understand why she said it. And it doesn't surprise me that white folks got so up-in-arms about it. Really, it didn't.

So, it's a "Black Thang"? Us, white folks could just never understand.

[Mack 1 6]

Us, white folks could just never understand.

No truer words have ever been spoken.

[surferskin 31]

No truer words have ever been spoken.

I wonder if Michelle will understand why white folks don't vote for her hubby.

[The Moz 71]

It has nothing to do with equating the quality of life in America vs. elsewhere in the world. Perhaps she's had personal negative experiences with how this country works, thus prompting her to say what she said.

 

I have no knowledge of why she said it, but I certainly understand why she said it. And it doesn't surprise me that white folks got so up-in-arms about it. Really, it didn't.

 

It has a lot to do with comparing life here to life elsewhere. Maybe if she realized how life would have been for her in Africa - she would be much more proud of being american. Same just about every Negro b!tching about slavery that happened 250 years ago.

[Mack 1 6]

It has a lot to do with comparing life here to life elsewhere. Maybe if she realized how life would have been for her in Africa - she would be much more proud of being american. Same just about every Negro b!tching about slavery that happened 250 years ago.

Yeah, sure, racism and all of its collateral ills are simply figments of our collective imaginations.

 

Nevermind the fact that her grandfather was a slave; nevermind the fact that she experienced racism on countless occasions while growing up; nevermind the fact that the "American System" killed someone who stood for all of what her parents taught her (MLK Jr.) when she was a child.

 

Those incidences couldn't POSSIBLY sour someone's opionion of America.

[kpbuckeye 3]

Yeah, sure, racism and all of its collateral ills are simply figments of our collective imaginations.

 

Nevermind the fact that her grandfather was a slave; nevermind the fact that she experienced racism on countless occasions while growing up; nevermind the fact that the "American System" killed someone who stood for all of what her parents taught her (MLK Jr.) when she was a child.

 

Those incidences couldn't POSSIBLY sour someone's opionion of America.

 

 

Its funny that you think racism is a one way street. Way to step back and see the whole picture.

Whites took a step back and saw it in the 60's. When might you be doing the same?

[HenryChinaski 1]

Its funny that you think racism is a one way street. Way to step back and see the whole picture.

Whites took a step back and saw it in the 60's. When might you be doing the same?

 

How the fock would you know?

 

Oh wait.. You're only a racist when everyone else in the thread is?

 

Be proud of what you are. Go ahead, admit your racism.

[kpbuckeye 3]

How the fock would you know?

 

Oh wait.. You're only a racist when everyone else in the thread is?

 

Be proud of what you are. Go ahead, admit your racism.

 

Because I live in the real world you little piss ant.

[Mack 1 6]

Whites took a step back and saw it in the 60's.

WTF does that mean?

[Frank M 181]

He got it from Isiah. And this picture is proof.

http://www.nba.com/media/allstar2003/magic_140_1992.jpg

 

 

 

You may be right: Uh-oh!

[kpbuckeye 3]

WTF does that mean?

 

Were you under the impression that only blacks fought for civil rights?

moron.